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InvisibleMoabfighter
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This print mailing has me tripping.
    #23870867 - 11/26/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I just can't wrap my head around how you guys are all cool with this.

Joe in the country ain't getting no spore prints to look at under his microscope.

A plain envelope, often with a small weed baggies in it, with foil inside that? Looks like you're shipping acid or something crazy. No one knows I'm growing. But the fucking mail has me paranoid as hell. I don't get mail. I get prints and syringes from you guys and sponsors. Anyone with a brain can put two and two together to see what I'm doing, and it worries me.
The penalty worries me.

If I was getting rich, that'd be one thing. I'm doing this hobby for my own personal pleasure, no one else, and that's the honest sad truth.

I just don't want to lose my freedom for many years when I'm hurting no one but myself. No one is getting my things, no one knows I have them except me.

Any tips/advice?

Someone mentioned before the world is more worried about the prescription pill problems in every town, sure. But I'm still doing wrong, and do not want to be busted. Ever.
Do I isolate myself? Stop posting on here? My IP address is linked to posting grow shit on shroomery.org every single day. My photo albums on phone, mushrooms.

Hell. The real question is, how haven't I been caught? This illegal game playing shit hits me weird.


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InvisibleAdden
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Re: This print mailing has me tripping. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23870982 - 11/27/16 01:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Don't tell anyone what you're doing. If you're worried about spores ask if someone can print on card stock for you.

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Invisiblefilthyknees
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Re: This print mailing has me tripping. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23871179 - 11/27/16 06:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

its the best method. People who send and recieve beyond hobby stuff have researched how to.

You think anything sent by me has a single finger print, correct return address or was mailed near my home? No no & no.

When people ask for prints its their responsibility, they wanted something that's illegal & they take a calculated risk.

Police are not focusing on spore prints, they don't give a flying fuck unless it's big time stuff where they seize assets worth $$$$$$$$

We are so way under the radar it's not funny.


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If you're in a hurry, might have to find out slow
That it's one thing to try and another to fly
You get there quicker just a step at a time
It's one thing to bark, another to bite
The show ain't over till you pack up at night

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Re: This print mailing has me tripping. [Re: filthyknees]
    #23873177 - 11/27/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Be far more discreet. Only post on shroomery using TOR, Recieve mail in someone elses name, Dont do anything on a phone.
As the person above me said, and this is probably most important, TELL NOONE!
Always try to stay 1 step ahead of anything you can think of that could incriminate you.
Have contingency plans incase something happens. Make a simple and effective barricade for your door and have a way to eliminate your crop fast.

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InvisibleMoabfighter
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Re: This print mailing has me tripping. [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23873352 - 11/27/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Meh. I don't think it's that easy.

Once you're in you're in. And I'm very much in.


Throw away a few PF jars? Sure. Throw away 20 colonizing jars/30 pasty plates, monotubs, etc, before the police get through the door?

Good fucking luck with that.


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Re: This print mailing has me tripping. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23873365 - 11/27/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Some of my other advice is still very much valid.

Use TOR browser to post your grow logs or whatever.
Do not tell anyone.
Never use a phone for anything(pictures, uploading, ect)

Anything you can do to give you an edge, anything to make you feel more comfortable/secure.
How could it hurt?

Worst case scenario if its just making you paranoid and ruining your trips because of it just stop growing or drastically reduce your operation. Have a very small operation and take a couple months break before you start again.
Plan everything very well, Have contingency plans.

Edited by MollyLucyMaryJane (11/27/16 08:33 PM)

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Re: This print mailing has me tripping. [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23873522 - 11/27/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)
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If you want, you could build yourself a ram-proof door. It'll take the cops a few extra minutes to get the Jaws of Life from the Fire Department and peel off the entire front half of your house. Design on page 21.

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Re: This print mailing has me tripping. [Re: Kryptos]
    #23907418 - 12/08/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Kryptos said:
If you want, you could build yourself a ram-proof door. It'll take the cops a few extra minutes to get the Jaws of Life from the Fire Department and peel off the entire front half of your house. Design on page 21.



Interesting read, thank you.


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When you’re lost, here I am. Forever with your soul


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Re: This print mailing has me tripping. [Re: King Klick]
    #23924276 - 12/13/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Edited by Anonymous (07/13/20 07:41 PM)

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OfflineAlan RockefellerM
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Re: This print mailing has me tripping. [Re: Moabfighter] * 1
    #23928734 - 12/15/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Moabfighter said:
Joe in the country ain't getting no spore prints to look at under his microscope.

A plain envelope, often with a small weed baggies in it, with foil inside that? Looks like you're shipping acid or something crazy.

My IP address is linked to posting grow shit on shroomery.org every single day. My photo albums on phone, mushrooms.

Hell. The real question is, how haven't I been caught? This illegal game playing shit hits me weird.




I look at spore prints all the time under the microscope, it's fun.  Here are some of my pics:  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7760612/fpart/5/vc/1#7760612

I have sent out thousands of spore prints and received many as well.  I have also never grown a single mushroom of any type.  I use my real address and don't worry about fingerprints.  No one has ever came by my house to complain about my mailings.


I do not think anyone cares about mailing around prints.  Sure, it looks funny, but if the postal inspectors open it and don't find drugs, they aren't going to do anything about it.  Also they typically only care about larger amounts of drugs.    They don't look for tinfoil in the mail because pretty much everything that is prohibited is nonmetalic.  People send non-drug stuff in little bags all the time (seeds, parts, etc), and the drug packages that excite them are large boxes.

Tons of people mail around prints all the time and no one complains about getting any heat from it.  There are plenty of ways to get busted growing mushrooms, but it appears that trading spore prints is not one of them.

Regarding IP addresses and such, no one cares which websites you view as long as you aren't doing child porn or some kind of violent crime.    You can use a proxy or tor if you want but that would be a waste of time in my opinion.  If you live in a country where they watch internet traffic and do something about it like perhaps Iran or Egypt, sure, use tor or a proxy.    No first world country watches for people talking about drugs and then sends out the cops. 

Also remember that probable cause goes stale pretty quick in the USA, they can't use old IP address logs against you some time in the future, or come get you because you got a spore print in the mail months ago.

In the USA authorities are not really looking for spores and rarely care about them at all.  Syringes are much more likely to get attention because they look like drugs, but even those rarely get any attention.


In the USA, if you are going to get busted growing, it is pretty much always either because you gave illegal mushrooms to an informant or there was a fire/burglary at your house which allowed police to enter legally.

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