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Identification Help Do These look like Lophophora Williamsi to you folks? * 1
    #23870156 - 11/26/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)










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Re: Identification Help Do These look like Lophophora Williamsi to you folks? [Re: panicncarolina]
    #23870193 - 11/26/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Mmmmm mm hmmmmm mmmmm sure do


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Re: Identification Help Do These look like Lophophora Williamsi to you folks? [Re: Raven44]
    #23871176 - 11/27/16 06:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Could well be - but I would want to see flowers to be sure.


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Re: Identification Help Do These look like Lophophora Williamsi to you folks? [Re: Spanishfly]
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Re: Identification Help Do These look like Lophophora Williamsi to you folks? [Re: panicncarolina]
    #23871568 - 11/27/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Now I see where u are going with this Spanish fly lol..

It could be a williamsii, could be a koeheresii, could be a texana...

They appear to be lophs tho. Perhaps one of those loph look a likes

With a picture of the flower on each of the variances u outta be able to get em identified by some guys here like Spanish fly and some others


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Re: Identification Help Do These look like Lophophora Williamsi to you folks? [Re: Raven44]
    #23871650 - 11/27/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Do you happen to live next to a tenniscourt?

These are in fact lost balls, and probably been there for a while looking at the algea growth


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Re: Identification Help Do These look like Lophophora Williamsi to you folks? [Re: DualWieldRake]
    #23871665 - 11/27/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

im looking for answers not pretending to know everything so if you would like to give a serious explanation as to what your talking about rather then tennis ball algae satire that would be most helpful

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Re: Identification Help Do These look like Lophophora Williamsi to you folks? [Re: panicncarolina]
    #23871739 - 11/27/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'd say the first two are L.diffusa because of the hunches / knobs, the last two L.williamsii.

The groupshot is too small for propper ID-ing.

I'm no cactus expert at all. :thumbup:

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Re: Identification Help Do These look like Lophophora Williamsi to you folks? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #23871804 - 11/27/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That one that's flowered is definitely Willi
We need flowers of each and every one for proper id


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Re: Identification Help Do These look like Lophophora Williamsi to you folks? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #23871838 - 11/27/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Me either I've done a good bit of research. I know they say typically look for straight ribs but I have seen Williamsii online the where the ribs were not completely straight. The color looks to be that of Williamsii too me but thats not enough to be sure I don't think.

Appreciate your input I felt similarly and wasn't too sure


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Re: Identification Help Do These look like Lophophora Williamsi to you folks? [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23871843 - 11/27/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Unfortunately they aren't currently flowering that pic of the one is months old.

Thanks for the input


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Re: Identification Help Do These look like Lophophora Williamsi to you folks? [Re: panicncarolina]
    #23871904 - 11/27/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah it's really a farce in my opinion to try to identify them by their skin and rib formation

They say that diffusa have a light green and thinner epidermis, whereas williamsii have a ticket and blue grey dermis
But fricii are the ones that always fuck with me, I've seen them light green, grey blue and just straight grey
They can have straight ribs or diffuse

The only real way to ID the different lophs is by the flower, it will tell you everything.
A white flower is diffusa
A flower like the one you posted with a pink stripe down the petals and round, broad leaves are williamsii
Friccii have more pink petals, sometimes bright fuscia but also can be white
Koehresii tend to have white flowers but the petals are often skinny and long with a kind of pointed tip

The broad petals come from northern populations, the skinny from southern
Southern locality williamsii often have skinny petals similar to koehresii
Northern locality like Texas often look like yours with nice broad petals but they are often shorter, yours has a very large flower with long broad leaves so I'd still say northern locality at least, if not Texas, North Mexico
Friccii will have different flowers depending where they are from as well, they are the most varied and interesting species imo


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Re: Identification Help Do These look like Lophophora Williamsi to you folks? [Re: panicncarolina]
    #23872696 - 11/27/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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panicncarolina said:
im looking for answers not pretending to know everything so if you would like to give a serious explanation as to what your talking about rather then tennis ball algae satire that would be most helpful

thanks




didnt know you were gonna be mad bro

another way to find out without having to wait for flowers is by a taste test


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Re: Identification Help Do These look like Lophophora Williamsi to you folks? [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23874453 - 11/28/16 08:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's hard to tell Trichos appart. Lophos are even harder to identify at younger ages I guess. :tongue2:

So I didn't even know about these -koehresii and -friccii varieties.

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