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Peteyboy
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: Kalsticky]
#23946962 - 12/21/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah man looks good!! Im droppin six tamp plates in about 15 mins!
Hooray for Stones!!!
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wtfcrazymofo
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: Peteyboy]
#23947184 - 12/21/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You shaken those?
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
#23947316 - 12/21/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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wtfcrazymofo said: You shaken those?
No im not, ive heard the mycelium doesent like being shooken. Just gonna leave it be
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: Kalsticky]
#23950136 - 12/22/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I decided to do a little expierement with these jars. I took 1 jar from each batch and shook them. When i harvest the stones. Ill compare the weight of the shooken versus the non shooken jars.
-------------------- "Nature loves courage. You make the commitment and nature will respond to that commitment by removing impossible obstacles. Dream the impossible dream and the world will not grind you under, it will lift you up. This is the trick. This is what all these teachers and philosophers who really counted, who really touched the alchemical gold, this is what they understood. This is the shamanic dance in the waterfall. This is how magic is done. By hurling yourself into the abyss and discovering its a feather bed.β β Terence McKenna
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: Kalsticky]
#23950153 - 12/22/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good thinking...looking forward to the results.
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: Mycolorado]
#23950363 - 12/22/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shaken*
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Kalsticky
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: Peteyboy]
#23950861 - 12/23/16 05:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Peteyboy said: Shaken*
Yeah i was pretty messed up last night haha idk why i put shooken
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: Peteyboy]
#23950868 - 12/23/16 05:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If stones haven't formed yet the shake can't hurt.
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: Kalsticky]
#23951058 - 12/23/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kalsticky said:
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Peteyboy said: Shaken*
Yeah i was pretty messed up last night haha idk why i put shooken

Haha I know I'm just messing with ya cause I like ya!
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Kalsticky
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: Peteyboy]
#23952161 - 12/23/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Peteyboy said:
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Kalsticky said:
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Peteyboy said: Shaken*
Yeah i was pretty messed up last night haha idk why i put shooken

Haha I know I'm just messing with ya cause I like ya! 
Thanks man and reply to wtfcrazymofo i just heard that stones dont like being shaken in general including the mycelium. Well see the results in a few months
-------------------- "Nature loves courage. You make the commitment and nature will respond to that commitment by removing impossible obstacles. Dream the impossible dream and the world will not grind you under, it will lift you up. This is the trick. This is what all these teachers and philosophers who really counted, who really touched the alchemical gold, this is what they understood. This is the shamanic dance in the waterfall. This is how magic is done. By hurling yourself into the abyss and discovering its a feather bed.β β Terence McKenna
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: Kalsticky]
#23977303 - 01/02/17 08:55 PM (7 years, 28 days ago) |
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Well i decided to shake 6 jars and leave 6 unshaken. To get some really good results.
-------------------- "Nature loves courage. You make the commitment and nature will respond to that commitment by removing impossible obstacles. Dream the impossible dream and the world will not grind you under, it will lift you up. This is the trick. This is what all these teachers and philosophers who really counted, who really touched the alchemical gold, this is what they understood. This is the shamanic dance in the waterfall. This is how magic is done. By hurling yourself into the abyss and discovering its a feather bed.β β Terence McKenna
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: Kalsticky]
#23996351 - 01/09/17 07:32 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Okay so this is where im at to the date. I have 12 total Tampenensis jars and now 6 Jalisco jars. The jalisco jars were inoculated 3 days ago so no growth yet. They were inoculated with MS. 6 of the tamp. Jars are 100% colonized (the shaken ones) and the other 6 tamp.jars are about 50% colonized (unshooken) but 1 of the 2nd group of 6 i shook and its 100% colonized. No sclerotia growth yet but its been pretty cold. Will update pics soon. Next few days.
-------------------- "Nature loves courage. You make the commitment and nature will respond to that commitment by removing impossible obstacles. Dream the impossible dream and the world will not grind you under, it will lift you up. This is the trick. This is what all these teachers and philosophers who really counted, who really touched the alchemical gold, this is what they understood. This is the shamanic dance in the waterfall. This is how magic is done. By hurling yourself into the abyss and discovering its a feather bed.β β Terence McKenna
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: Kalsticky]
#24003273 - 01/12/17 07:12 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Heres Tampa. A jars (shaken)

And heres the Tampa. B jars

I barely see any sclerotia growth. Ill see how they are in a few weeks.
-------------------- "Nature loves courage. You make the commitment and nature will respond to that commitment by removing impossible obstacles. Dream the impossible dream and the world will not grind you under, it will lift you up. This is the trick. This is what all these teachers and philosophers who really counted, who really touched the alchemical gold, this is what they understood. This is the shamanic dance in the waterfall. This is how magic is done. By hurling yourself into the abyss and discovering its a feather bed.β β Terence McKenna
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: Kalsticky]
#24003288 - 01/12/17 07:22 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: amidogen]
#24003430 - 01/12/17 08:56 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Yeah, only seeing one stone in a tamp jar and it's very small and seems to maybe be stalling, and not seeing anything in the CN jars. I definitely think I prepped my jars a tad dry which could be a contributing factor. Just gonna fruit them and prep wetter jars for another go.
Edited by Mycolorado (01/12/17 08:57 AM)
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: amidogen]
#24003472 - 01/12/17 09:15 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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amidogen said: I inoculated 5 tamp WBS jars with LI made from an agar culture on 12/20, they hit full colonization about 7 days later, and just this morning I'm finally starting to see hints of sclerotia formation. Reading around, it seems tamps can take much longer to start forming stones than other varieties In interesting contrast, last year I did some PF cakes with tamp MS and they started forming stones well before they hit 100% colonization. No idea why the difference in stone formation rates.
Good luck with the shaken jars. I had 5 tamp WBS jars that I inoculated in October with an agar tiger drop 2.0. It took them about 2 weeks to hit 45%, and I shook all but one to speed up colonization Not a single stone by the beginning of January in the jars I shook. The one jar I didn't shake did form some stones, but I had issues with it drying out and they stalled out pretty small.
Sounds like youve been doin work lol but my unshaken jars havent stalled yet. Theyre just taking forever to colonize the whole jar. Its been under 2 months so i still got a long ways to go. I see some sclerotia forming but im sure thatll change in a few weeks. I also heard sclerotia doesent really like wbs, they love rye. And i just followed RRs rye video and used half strength coffee in the 24hr. Soak. I dont need to worry about jar moisture since i prepped them that way
-------------------- "Nature loves courage. You make the commitment and nature will respond to that commitment by removing impossible obstacles. Dream the impossible dream and the world will not grind you under, it will lift you up. This is the trick. This is what all these teachers and philosophers who really counted, who really touched the alchemical gold, this is what they understood. This is the shamanic dance in the waterfall. This is how magic is done. By hurling yourself into the abyss and discovering its a feather bed.β β Terence McKenna
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: Kalsticky]
#24003473 - 01/12/17 09:16 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Kalsticky said:
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amidogen said: I inoculated 5 tamp WBS jars with LI made from an agar culture on 12/20, they hit full colonization about 7 days later, and just this morning I'm finally starting to see hints of sclerotia formation. Reading around, it seems tamps can take much longer to start forming stones than other varieties In interesting contrast, last year I did some PF cakes with tamp MS and they started forming stones well before they hit 100% colonization. No idea why the difference in stone formation rates.
Good luck with the shaken jars. I had 5 tamp WBS jars that I inoculated in October with an agar tiger drop 2.0. It took them about 2 weeks to hit 45%, and I shook all but one to speed up colonization Not a single stone by the beginning of January in the jars I shook. The one jar I didn't shake did form some stones, but I had issues with it drying out and they stalled out pretty small.
Sounds like youve been doin work lol but my unshaken jars havent stalled yet. Theyre just taking forever to colonize the whole jar. Its been under 2 months so i still got a long ways to go. I see some sclerotia forming but im sure thatll change in a few weeks. I also heard sclerotia doesent really like wbs, they love rye. And i just followed RRs rye video and used half strength coffee in the 24hr. Soak. I dont need to worry about jar moisture since i prepped them that way
Btw this is all from multispore
-------------------- "Nature loves courage. You make the commitment and nature will respond to that commitment by removing impossible obstacles. Dream the impossible dream and the world will not grind you under, it will lift you up. This is the trick. This is what all these teachers and philosophers who really counted, who really touched the alchemical gold, this is what they understood. This is the shamanic dance in the waterfall. This is how magic is done. By hurling yourself into the abyss and discovering its a feather bed.β β Terence McKenna
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: Kalsticky]
#24003618 - 01/12/17 10:11 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 01:15 PM)
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: amidogen]
#24003680 - 01/12/17 10:37 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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amidogen said: If you want to up your game, I'd go MS->agar->LI. Agar is simple af. It's vegan jello that you PC and then put a drop of MS solution onto in an SAB. Then you cut out a chunk of healthy growth and transfer it to a new plate until you have a beautiful, happy, healthy, clean culture ready to munch down your sub 
My tamp plates almost always pin in vitro, so I often go MS->agar->in-vitro pin->agar->LI. I'm aware WBS isn't a favorite, but I've seen grows where it's successful, and it's what I have available right down the street vs the hour drive to the nearest feed store I've tried correcting my moisture issues, plus with a clean agar culture to LI it just rips right through the substrate. Less time and moisture lost to waiting for full colonization. Hopefully it works out this time. Good luck on your grow 
If i had the space i would definetly do agar but at the moment i cant. I wouldnt do LCs but as of right now MS works good for me. People always say theres such a high contam risk going straight to grain but i have yet to see all these contaminations lol ive only had 1 grain contamination and it was after i spawned. It was bc i gave tyvek envolopes a try and i found out tyvek envolopes suck. Theyre too pourous. But thanks man ill keep this thread updayed
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Re: Philosopher stones project AKA Tampanensis sclerotia [Re: Kalsticky]
#24007166 - 01/13/17 01:24 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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My 1st 6 Jalisco jars have all germinated in 6 days. Im innoculating 6 more today for a total of 12 Jalisco and 12 Tamp. Jars.
-------------------- "Nature loves courage. You make the commitment and nature will respond to that commitment by removing impossible obstacles. Dream the impossible dream and the world will not grind you under, it will lift you up. This is the trick. This is what all these teachers and philosophers who really counted, who really touched the alchemical gold, this is what they understood. This is the shamanic dance in the waterfall. This is how magic is done. By hurling yourself into the abyss and discovering its a feather bed.β β Terence McKenna
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