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Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang * 1
    #23870072 - 11/26/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Everything is alleged until it is Judged in a court of law. We didn't start this supposed "defamation", we are only trying to discuss it even if the conversation can get a little heated. I didn't jump on the band-wagon when you relentlessly defended the big-wigs in question... Heck, I like defending the under-dog myself... It wasn't enough that you swept the topic into the dusty corner of the conspiracy theory forum, but then you had to totally censor the subject by locking the thread because it wasn't going the way you'd like it to go? Fuckin' unbelievable. 

Suspicious much.


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23870084 - 11/26/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not this is typical koods when his views or people he holds dear in his belief structure are called into moral question. silence the opposition.


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: PartoftheSource] * 1
    #23870088 - 11/26/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23870092 - 11/26/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Silence me and prove my point.


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23870308 - 11/26/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The lefts favorite tactic is too silence speech they disagree with, not debate it

***theyve learned that when they debate, they lose:lol:


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: hostileuniverse] * 3
    #23870310 - 11/26/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Libel is not protected speech.


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: koods]
    #23870316 - 11/26/16 07:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Libel is not protected speech.




Doesn't libel need to be proved in a court of law?


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: koods]
    #23870321 - 11/26/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Libel is not protected speech.





maybe the people should sue


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: koods] * 2
    #23870325 - 11/26/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You said you would like to see a shroomery member sued for this "libel". You are a terrible human.


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: koods]
    #23870333 - 11/26/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Libel is not protected speech.




Sure it is.

"Most states provide for a party defamed by a periodical to demand a published retraction. If the correction is made, then there is no right to file a lawsuit. Governmental bodies are supposedly immune to actions for libel on the basis that there could be no intent by a non-personal entity, and further, public records are exempt from claims of libel. The rules covering libel against a "public figure" (particularly a political or governmental person) are special, based on U.S. Supreme Court decisions"


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23870345 - 11/26/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The plaintiff doesn't need to prove the accusations are untrue, the defendant needs to prove the accusations are true. It also requires publication of false accusations, which is why websites are removing these pizzagate threads. That's why you can't be trafficking them here.

http://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/elements-of-libel-and-slander.html


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: koods] * 1
    #23870362 - 11/26/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If you're going to make this about shroomery legality, all we have to do is state that is a matter of opinion and not fact.


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: koods]
    #23870370 - 11/26/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The plaintiff doesn't need to prove the accusations are untrue, the defendant needs to prove the accusations are true. It also requires publication of false accusations, which is why websites are removing these pizzagate threads. That's why you can't be trafficking them here.

http://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/elements-of-libel-and-slander.html




Why does this apply here and not all the slanderous things said about Trump the last six months?


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23870381 - 11/26/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Because these are accusations of a serious felony against private citizens (some are public figures, but not all). Because people are specifically stating that this isn't an opinion, these are facts.

In think the editors of the Washington post understand libel laws better than just about anyone,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/pizzagate-shows-how-fake-news-hurts-real-people/2016/11/25/d9ee0590-b0f9-11e6-840f-e3ebab6bcdd3_story.html?utm_term=.91a0d9479fb6

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SOME OF the people can be fooled all of the time, and some seem plenty pleased about it when it gives them license to exercise their most malicious impulses. How else to explain the noxious torrent of vitriol, venom and threats trained recently against a popular upper Northwest Washington pizzeria, which has been the subject of ludicrous conspiracy theories alleging that it is the center of a child - abuse racket run by Hillary Clinton and her campaign chairman, John Podesta?

The allegations against Comet Ping Pong, reported by the New York Times, are absurd on their face and detached from any gossamer thread of fact. They took root in the dark crevices of the Web and took flight thanks to social media platforms, whose witless “who, us?” posture in the face of misinformation and outright lunacy is a civic embarrassment.

More than that, the use of social media as a platform for outright lies about public figures and, in this case, malevolent rumors about a pleasant neighborhood restaurant popular with families is a menace to private lives, peace and prosperity. In response to the firestorm of anonymous death threats and warnings directed at Comet’s owner, James Alefantis, and some of his employees, D.C. police have had to deploy officers to keep an eye on the restaurant.

The First Amendment is a bulwark of democracy but provides no protection for defamatory allegations published in knowing disregard for the truth. Mr. Alefantis is more than entitled to sue for defamation and libel, if he can find the purveyors of the garbage heaved his way.

A separate question is whether criminal charges may arise from some of the threats that have been leveled at the restaurant and its owner, online and by phone. Mischief may stray into the province of criminality if it incites violence.





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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23870389 - 11/26/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The plaintiff doesn't need to prove the accusations are untrue, the defendant needs to prove the accusations are true. It also requires publication of false accusations, which is why websites are removing these pizzagate threads. That's why you can't be trafficking them here.

http://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/elements-of-libel-and-slander.html




Why does this apply here and not all the slanderous things said about Trump the last six months?




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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23870390 - 11/26/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

koods said:
The plaintiff doesn't need to prove the accusations are untrue, the defendant needs to prove the accusations are true. It also requires publication of false accusations, which is why websites are removing these pizzagate threads. That's why you can't be trafficking them here.

http://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/elements-of-libel-and-slander.html




Why does this apply here and not all the slanderous things said about Trump the last six months?





because of favoritism duuuuh


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: koods] * 1
    #23870397 - 11/26/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If you guys create a user forum or discuss it in an existing user forum, those parts of the shroomery are not visible to the wider internet. I just don't think it's wise to have these serious accusations about a private citizen openly published from the shroomery.

Trump is a public figure. The rules for defamation are totally different.


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: koods]
    #23870398 - 11/26/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Don't blow a smoke screen up ours asses to hide behind, koods. I doubt anyone said "specifically" that it wasn't a matter of opinion and was a matter of "fact". If the contents of the thread in question were in any way endangering to the Shroomery then it would've been deleted and not locked.


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: koods]
    #23870404 - 11/26/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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If you guys create a user forum or discuss it in an existing user forum, those parts of the shroomery are not visible to the wider internet. I just don't think it's wise to have these serious accusations about a private citizen openly published from the shroomery.

Trump is a public figure. The rules for defamation are totally different.




Fair enough, Koods. The only problem I see with that is that it would limit other people from bringing in their opinions because the subject would be "hidden", so to speak.


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23870418 - 11/26/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't delete it because I wasn't sure what to do with it. I will move it to a part of the shroomery not visible to the outside world. Where would you like it to go?


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: koods] * 1
    #23870423 - 11/26/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Pizzagate subforum?


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23870427 - 11/26/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Somebody make it


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: koods]
    #23870433 - 11/26/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Wow - I didn't realize there were so many User created sub forums


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23870437 - 11/26/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If they are soliloquy bound to voice a polical opinion or what not I'm sure there are better places, if they decide not,they'll find the right thread.


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: PartoftheSource] * 3
    #23870468 - 11/26/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Koods loves pepperoni pizza pot pie kabobs.

And that's a FACT.


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: Great Scott]
    #23870470 - 11/26/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Trumps a public figure but the pizzahate people are not?

I'm not buying that


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: koods] * 2
    #23870474 - 11/26/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Libel is not protected speech.




What about when you made the claim that Donald Trump donated lots of money to NAMBLA? 

I assumed NAMBLA was some sort of running joke in society, but apparently they are real

Do you always hold contradictory positions when it benefits you?  Should Donald Trump sue you?


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: MrBlueYoMind] * 1
    #23870488 - 11/26/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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koods said:
Somebody make it



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MrBlueYoMind said:
Quote:

koods said:
Libel is not protected speech.




What about when you made the claim that Donald Trump donated lots of money to NAMBLA? 

I assumed NAMBLA was some sort of running joke in society, but apparently they are real

Do you always hold contradictory positions when it benefits you?  Should Donald Trump sue you?




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustler_Magazine_v._Falwell


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #23870495 - 11/26/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

LOL HE REALL SAID THAT WTF


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: Mescalean]
    #23870514 - 11/26/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The ad carried a disclaimer in small print at the bottom of the page that said, "ad parody—not to be taken seriously", and the magazine's table of contents also listed the ad as: "Fiction; Ad and Personality Parody."[8]




I don't recall any such disclaimers in your post.  In fact, you were pretty insistent that he was hiding his tax returns due to NAMBLA donations.  Considering the allegations of racism and sexism, throwing in accusations of manboylove don't seem to be unreasonable nor satirical.


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: MrBlueYoMind] * 7
    #23870519 - 11/26/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

HE'S A HYPOCRITE AND NEEDS TO BE BANISHED TO PIZZA ISLAND FOREVER


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: MrBlueYoMind] * 1
    #23870533 - 11/26/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Parodies of public figures which could not reasonably be taken as true are protected against civil liability by the First Amendment, even if intended to cause emotional distress. Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals reversed.




Plus I don't know what's wrong with donations to North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: koods]
    #23870540 - 11/26/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Because a look alike will never be the real thing.  How dare he.  Send him to Guantanamo.  Waterboard him until his real hair line is visible.


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    #23870545 - 11/26/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That's the secret source of his super powers. He has no hair line.


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    #23870552 - 11/26/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:aaaargh::ohgodpleaseno: :friendsshocked:  :woooaaahhh:




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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: koods] * 2
    #23870701 - 11/26/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The plaintiff doesn't need to prove the accusations are untrue, the defendant needs to prove the accusations are true. It also requires publication of false accusations, which is why websites are removing these pizzagate threads. That's why you can't be trafficking them here.

http://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/elements-of-libel-and-slander.html






you mean libel such as this?

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23807556#23807556


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23870702 - 11/26/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:trololol:


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23870733 - 11/26/16 10:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

To be fair, there is a video where Trump is talking to some kids and he says something like "I'll be dating her in 10 years" which might be considered flirty.  I think it was more jokingly (especially since the kids laughed at it), but it's kind of along the lines of "She's cute but not old enough yet"  Real fine line there.  (considering he is like 70 compounds the oddity of the statement).

And the nude beauty pageant shit I believe was admitted by Trump in a Howard Stern interview.  It was in poor taste and pretty disrespectful.  I'm sure most guys wouldn't mind walking around a bunch of beauty contestants in the nude, but abusing the position of power isn't cool.


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #23870737 - 11/26/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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To be fair, there is a video where Trump is talking to some kids and he says something like "I'll be dating her in 10 years" which might be considered flirty.  I think it was more jokingly (especially since the kids laughed at it), but it's kind of along the lines of "She's cute but not old enough yet"  Real fine line there.  (considering he is like 70 compounds the oddity of the statement).



Obviously a joke, just creepy as fuck


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    #23870955 - 11/27/16 12:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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And the nude beauty pageant shit I believe was admitted by Trump in a Howard Stern interview.  It was in poor taste and pretty disrespectful.  I'm sure most guys wouldn't mind walking around a bunch of beauty contestants in the nude, but abusing the position of power isn't cool.





you've obviously never been around models and pageant contestants. I was friends
with a former miss georgia, Megan Blake, I've been around that shit and there's 100
people back there while they're changing and getting make up. this shit isnt for shy
girls, it';s common and to make trump out to be some perv while this is going on is
just added defamation

megan is fucking nutty now. she speaks dog


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23870959 - 11/27/16 01:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

She howls at the moon as you dshsb


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: Adden]
    #23870971 - 11/27/16 01:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Not sure what thread this thread's about.  Guess I missed all the drama.
Though, I've heard of forum owners and admins being legally liable for the content of their forums before.  I was on a car forum once where an upcoming model that was supposed to be super secret had a Photoshopped rendition of the upcoming model that was close enough to the real thing that General Motors reached out and had the forum censor all instances of that image and forbid further posting of it.  Happened across multiple websites with that particular image AFAIK.


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23871083 - 11/27/16 04:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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MrBlueYoMind said:
And the nude beauty pageant shit I believe was admitted by Trump in a Howard Stern interview.  It was in poor taste and pretty disrespectful.  I'm sure most guys wouldn't mind walking around a bunch of beauty contestants in the nude, but abusing the position of power isn't cool.





you've obviously never been around models and pageant contestants. I was friends
with a former miss georgia, Megan Blake, I've been around that shit and there's 100
people back there while they're changing and getting make up. this shit isnt for shy
girls, it';s common and to make trump out to be some perv while this is going on is
just added defamation

megan is fucking nutty now. she speaks dog




And isn't it amazing how when the agenda fits koods it not libel? And how he completely bi-passes the perverted ass judges that have been on those things for years diddling  kids. all eyes on trump though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Operation_Berenstain/comments/5b76jm/tony_podestas_art_collection/

Have you seen the art tony podesta is into pris? Would you leave your child alone with this man if you saw these paintings in his house?


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23871139 - 11/27/16 05:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Shill


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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23871191 - 11/27/16 06:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
you've obviously never been around models and pageant contestants. I was friends
with a former miss georgia, Megan Blake, I've been around that shit and there's 100
people back there while they're changing and getting make up. this shit isnt for shy
girls, it';s common and to make trump out to be some perv while this is going on is
just added defamation

megan is fucking nutty now. she speaks dog




Megan is winning at life in spite of everything you've done to hinder her development.

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In working with and rescuing wolves, Blake has learned pack structure and to "speak dog" directly from the pack source. Having traveled over 100,000 miles with her cat, she is also a trusted pet travel expert in the media.




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Re: Koods, I'm disappointed in you mang [Re: EllisDSox]
    #23871234 - 11/27/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)




Retired head of FBI in LA talking about very similar shit that supposedly does not happen..... Huh


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