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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: Mountainman505]
    #23871668 - 11/27/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Here are the two jars after soaking for 20 hours they had quite a bit of co2 build up in them so I burped themy. I will am not sure if I should drain what liquid is left, I am think yes, any suggestions?


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: Mountainman505]
    #23871692 - 11/27/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Have you checked if the grains are fully hydrated by squishing one?
I would never leave liquid in the bottom like that, draining it is a good idea.


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23871707 - 11/27/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Have you checked if the grains are fully hydrated by squishing one?
I would never leave liquid in the bottom like that, draining it is a good idea.



Thank you, I would think it would cook to a cake the water is full of starches.


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: Mountainman505]
    #23871729 - 11/27/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The brewers yeast I am using is not spent and the lme is a growth booster.



The term "brewers yeast" is usually describing inactive yeast that people use as a dietary supplement. This is why I thought you were adding it for nutritional reasons and that it would not brew.

I recently soaked grains with active yeast and sugar for similar reasons to you, for anti bacterial purposes and for it to become the dominant "contaminant". My goal was to get the other contams to develop during extended soaking and then kill them with a simple steaming. More info here https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23809538


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: Mountainman505]
    #23871747 - 11/27/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Have you checked if the grains are fully hydrated by squishing one?
I would never leave liquid in the bottom like that, draining it is a good idea.



Thank you, I would think it would cook to a cake the water is full of starches.



You will likely have overly hydrated clumped grains at the bottom. I usually cook my rice first and then fluff it up and put it into jars. If leaving it like that I would at least swirl the jars after they have been heating for a while, i.e. tip them and rotate so that water gets into some of the upper grains. You risk having a sodden puck at the bottom which will never colonise.

If I am understanding correctly it would seem you are using 1 cup of rice (1/2cup of each type) and only 1/2cup of water. I think I use 3 times that much water, not certain though.


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: blackout]
    #23871799 - 11/27/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I am thinking of tring to cook the rice first in the jar with a solid lid in boiling water. I live at an elevation of 7500ft above sea  level, so this is my mountainman rice cooker rig. It will give me all the pressure I need to cook whole grain rice. He'll it take 10 minutes for a pot of water to even start to boil. Most grains and lentils have to be cooked this way up here. By using the jar I can keep an eye on the rice, since I have never preped this variety of rice up here before. So......


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: Mountainman505]
    #23871835 - 11/27/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I do shake my my jars after pc'ing to eliminate condensation building up in the jar and the grains keep ahold of more moisture, at least that's how it seems to work for me.
Once the family goes back home, later today I will cook up the rice and we will see what happens. If I open the jars now and check the grains and they and as hydrated as I like I will add some more to hydrate them. I may need to rethink this for a minute. I will try one jar and see how it goes.


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: Mountainman505]
    #23872224 - 11/27/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I opened the jar with the lme and brewers yeast and it was pressurized more than a bottle of beer and had the aroma of alcohol. The rice was almost fully hydrated it will hydrate more as I am shaking the jar till it's cooled. This is my regular process from here in on out so the rice should work out by its self with out the corn. I am only tring this because I forgot to get popcorn while I was in town and it's too far for a trip for just popcorn. Bad Mountainman.


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: Mountainman505]
    #23874532 - 11/28/16 08:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Here's how my wild rice mix jar looked like this morning after pc'ing and shaking while it cooled. Only when I first pulled out the jar were the grains stuck to each other but thanks the the addition of gypsum after soaking allowed all the grains two break up individually.


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: Mountainman505]
    #23874859 - 11/28/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That jar looks fine, turned out good.

I'd love to see the contrast of white mycelium creeping across the black rice.

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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23875827 - 11/28/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I know, it should be interesting. Here's a narly one of my Colorado jar I took just now.


Edited by Mountainman505 (11/29/16 10:54 AM)


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: Mountainman505]
    #23878120 - 11/29/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I noc'ed up the newly made rice jar with a liquid culture of Psylocybe Tampanensis, STONES!!!. Sorry got excited this same culture and syringe was used to noc up my first stone jar. The black rice should make a great background and make it easy to see the mycelium starting. Fingers crossed.  :sporedrop:  :mushdance:  :mushdance:


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: Mountainman505]
    #23886902 - 12/02/16 08:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

What's wrong with these two mushies I have growin'? Is it the habitat or something else. I haven't had fruits with this wide of stems before and havent had this happen? I am open to all comments, I don't have a dial for my rh but my temps dont exceed 75f and don't drop below 68f. I mist 3 to 4 times a day with a 15 20 second fan with mist.


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: Mountainman505]
    #23887196 - 12/02/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

is it the camera or is that sub bacterial? it looks yellow.

surface looks too wet also


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: mushboy]
    #23887208 - 12/02/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I did mist right before the shot. I has heavywith it. The yellow, is whatever the sub is made of. If I where to take the substrate and put it in water it would be stained yellow. It's bought from an online vendor. I have used it for a year now.


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: Mountainman505]
    #23887250 - 12/02/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

whats it made from?

make your own dude!
cvg cost about the same amount per month as mouth wash.


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: mushboy]
    #23887398 - 12/02/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Coco coir, verm, gypsum, hydrated lime, and something acidI can to need ph buffers and phone stabilizers. I use it because it works and I am improving one technique at a time.


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: Mountainman505]
    #23888052 - 12/02/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Here are three of those guys picked and ready to dry.


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Re: Spawning mushies from whole rice [Re: Mountainman505]
    #23896503 - 12/05/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Here is a wild rice mix jar I made up before I started this thread. It is an agar to rice transfer. It's alacabezi.


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