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Peyote: no watering in the winter?
    #23868416 - 11/26/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hey everybody,
I bought a peyote cactus and the lady who sold it told me not to water it cause it's dormant during winter.
I watered it directly after buying it in October and put it in a bigger pot. Haven't watered it since.
But now, the plant that used to be hard and vital is now very soft and seemingly unhealthy:


How would you treat the plant?


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Re: Peyote: no watering in the winter? [Re: Hans]
    #23868463 - 11/26/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Are you keeping it outside or inside? Doesn't look too good.


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Re: Peyote: no watering in the winter? [Re: Hans]
    #23868514 - 11/26/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Watering after a transplant is a bad idea.  Cacti shock easily.  Looks possibly cold too.


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Re: Peyote: no watering in the winter? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23868605 - 11/26/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Why did you do the exact opposite of what was recommended?


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Re: Peyote: no watering in the winter? [Re: mandrin13]
    #23868664 - 11/26/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have three peyote sitting on an east-facing window sill where they only get some direct morning light. I keep the room 10 - 15C.  They haven't been watered since some time in early October and won't see water until mid-March unless indications are growth has re-started.

When she said don't water them, she meant it.  I don't know what you are going to do now.  I think you need to unpot and get the roots dried out and check for rot.  You may have to cut back any rot you may have developed on the main body of the plant.


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Re: Peyote: no watering in the winter? [Re: KenInVic]
    #23868815 - 11/26/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Not to mention how terrible that soil is,
it needs to be at least 50% minerals if not closer to 90
you're looking more like 75-90% organics there.
cactus should be transplanted from dry soil into dry soil and left dry for at least a week before watering.
Repottings should typically be done during the growing season.


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Re: Peyote: no watering in the winter? [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23871034 - 11/27/16 02:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I got i out of the pot and checked the soil. It was dry but it wasn't completely desert dry. What irritated me is, that it was pretty warm. I did not really get what you mean by rot, but I did cut away a fruit that was too smushy.
I put it back into he pot and I will try and get some more mineral-heavy soil.

What would be a good range of temperature for a room? How about light conditions?





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Re: Peyote: no watering in the winter? [Re: Hans]
    #23871065 - 11/27/16 03:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Looks good to me!

Jk that thing looks terrible.  Get it out of the soil, cut off the best tops, let them dry, then attempt to root them in a coarse sand mix.  Best of luck man.  With cacti once you get them in the correct soil and sun, less is more.  It's much easier to over water/feed than under water/feed.


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Re: Peyote: no watering in the winter? [Re: Hans]
    #23871103 - 11/27/16 04:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Hans said:
I got i out of the pot and checked the soil. It was dry but it wasn't completely desert dry. What irritated me is, that it was pretty warm. I did not really get what you mean by rot, but I did cut away a fruit that was too smushy.
I put it back into he pot and I will try and get some more mineral-heavy soil.

What would be a good range of temperature for a room? How about light conditions?









Hey man, I hate to break it to you, but that thing looks like a ball of rot, probably rotting from the inside out. Peyote isn't naturally mushy and orange like that. :sad:

They require little to no water and to be potted in nearly entirely rocks. Regular soil is no good for them. Peyote is more like an air-plant that you very occasionally spill a couple drops of water on than a houseplant.

As another poster said, your best chance to salvage a living peyote top from this plant, (which is almost certainly going to die,) is to cut off the tops of the non-rotted head and let them dry out and callous on the bottom.

Then attempt to root them by setting the buttons with the callouses down in a coarse sand mix. After several months your peyote tops may begin to put out new roots I find they are not too rotten already.

Sorry man, I just lost one of my own to rot recently. Tried doing an emergency graft to a San Pedro, but it was already too far gone. :thumbdown:


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Re: Peyote: no watering in the winter? [Re: WeAreMushroom]
    #23871149 - 11/27/16 05:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That thing is rotting and needs surgery. That baby is on its way out.


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Re: Peyote: no watering in the winter? [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23871182 - 11/27/16 06:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

RIP  IMHO  Sorry


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Re: Peyote: no watering in the winter? [Re: Spanishfly]
    #23871274 - 11/27/16 07:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

some instructions from an educated surgeon?


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Re: Peyote: no watering in the winter? [Re: Hans]
    #23871296 - 11/27/16 08:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

U put it back into the soil after u took.it out??? Nooooo never do that

If u take a cactus outta it's pot it's common practice to leave it on the table on some newspaper for a week to dry out

Then once it's been a week u can put it into a pot of new dry soil. Then wait a week before giv8ng it any water.

When u do water, start with a mistake. Then wait a week. Then mist heavilya. Wait a week. Then do a light water. Wait a week. Then normal waterings....

Take that poor thing out of the soil and leave it on the counter for a week. Dust any wounds in cinnamon. Do not put it back into the soil until all wounds have healed. Maybe leave it on the table two weeks tops.

When u re pot it.... the reason u do not immediately water it is because if the cacti got the even the slightest scrape to the roots or anywhere on the plant during the transplant it leaves it very vulnerable. If water makes contact with that wound it could spell rot most likely will. That's why u wait a week to water. By then any wounds the plant got during transplant will have healed so now u can water...

U mIst at first to be sure it's not gonna rot. If it's gonna and u mIst it it will rot only a little bit. But if u water it fully and it had taken on a wound it may rot severely

Gotta keep a very close eye.

Your gonna kill that plant if u don't listen up to what people r telling u and take it seriously. It's near gone

When we say dry soil. We mean bone fucking dry like play sand.


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Re: Peyote: no watering in the winter? [Re: Raven44]
    #23871362 - 11/27/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the advice. I took them out, dusted the soil off and nursed it up with cinnamon.


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Re: Peyote: no watering in the winter? [Re: Hans]
    #23871465 - 11/27/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What a relief :smile:

I wish u luck come back here we any qs

Cacti are very prone to rot. I think that baby will come back to life with some technical. Lots of technology. For now, just leave it to dry out at least a week

Thats the best thing u can do I think

Granted, I'm a wayyy out on a limb here. Why I say that is I'm ASSUMING the thing was rotting from being over watered or damaged then watered.

Hopefully that was the cause of the rotting
It seems it most likely was tho

Look into a good soil mix in the meantime. Mine is 2 parts rounded pebbles marble sized ish... 1 part pumice and 1/2 part horticultural grade sand. U want the horticultural grade stuff


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Re: Peyote: no watering in the winter? [Re: Raven44]
    #23872093 - 11/27/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

First mistake I made with cacti was feeding after taking a cutting.  The stump turned to mush.  The whole group didn't like my new apartment window either.  Which was strange because it was more east and the old place was strait south.


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