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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Springs1]
#23871416 - 11/27/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Crystal G said:People sometimes punish servers for things that aren't their fault or things they have no control over though. Like if their food is slow to come out, or if the food doesn't taste good. It's really not the server's fault.
Taste you are correct, but sure not slow food, here's why:
Ask yourself these questions as a server:
1. WHEN do you put in my order? Do you wait or do you go put it in immediately after taking it? If you are double sat or triple sat, you can still go put in each order into the computer after taking each table’s order. By not doing that can result in a much longer wait and that would be YOUR FAULT.
2. FORGETTING to put in an order. My husband and I have experienced this for REAL that servers ADMITTED to our faces they have FORGOTTEN TO PUT ORDERS IN. All of them were appetizers, bar drinks, and a cup of soup.
3. Did you put in the order CORRECTLY into the computer? Have had many times servers ADMITTED to our faces they did not do that correctly. Have had wrong entrées before due to our server putting in the order wrong. Have had wrong bar drinks too due to the server putting in the order wrong.
4. Did you FORGET ANYTHING I ORDERED such as a SIDE DISH? We have had this happen a number of times as well.
5. Did you DROP anything I ordered? Luckily, we have not had this happen, but I have seen a server once drop some fries from a plate before and I did have a waiter spill some margarita martini when pouring into a martini glass. In other words, it is possible, not likely, but very possible.
6. Did you remember to GET my food? We have had a server do that before. Also, we have had a number of servers forget bar drinks.
7. Did you bring out my food obviously correctly if you bring my food out? Do you realize how many times OUR OWN SERVER brings out DUH mistakes like the side dish is wrong, the entrée is wrong, something obvious is not correct bacon that isn’t covered up isn’t extra, extra crispy when you can clearly notice that it isn’t without touching anything, etc.? Every DUH mistake you bring out is YOUR FAULT I am waiting for what I did order by you wasting my time bringing me the wrong item or wrongly prepared item or forgot something. While we all make mistakes, I would have to say a good 90% of the time, servers NEVER COMPARE THE WRITTEN ORDERS TO THE FOOD, because they are TOO LAZY and DON’T CARE!!
8. Servers DO wait to put in entrée orders when appetizers, side salads, or cups of soup are ordered. THAT *IS* THE GOD’S TRUTH! Sometimes it’s TOO LONG THEY WAIT! If it’s another server, it still doesn’t make it the kitchen staff’s fault I have the wrong side dish for example since that is something that’s obvious. It’s either my server that didn’t put in my order correctly or this other server that didn’t compare the ticket to the food or that this other server did compare the ticket to the food, but just missed it(HIGHLY UNLIKELY, but possible).
9. WHEN do you come to GET MY ORDER? That part is covered in #2 below.
10. WHEN do you DECIDE to LET ME ORDER? That part is covered in #4 below.
11. WHEN do you decide to DELIVER MY FOOD? That part is covered in #1 below.
12. Do you, because they are out of something, decide to assume everyone wants the closest thing so you do the ordering for me? That part is covered in #3 below.
13. WHEN do you decide to check up on WHERE the food is? If the kitchen staff somehow lost the ticket, did you wait 30 minutes and then decide to find out that or did you check after 10-15 minutes to see that our food was getting started on?
1. Once, we had a Red Lobster waitress had our 2 entrées on the tray as well as 2 side salads that were for a couple that wasn’t even there when we ordered. Anyway, instead of bypassing their table to hand us ours first since WE DID ORDER FIRST(common sense would tell you that it takes more time to cook food than it does to fix a side salad anyways even if it wasn’t our server that delivered our food, but it was our waitress that delivered our food), she decided to hand them theirs first off the tray. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE SERVER’S CONTROL TO HAND OUT THINGS OFF THE SAME TRAY IN THE ORDER IN WHICH IT WAS ORDERED IN!!
2. Once, we had a waitress that greeted us which we ordered an appetizer as well as our drinks when greeted. I saw she tucking in chairs at empty tables and pretty much doing everything but coming back to get our entrée order. Well, I found out what happened. She brought out our appetizer and when I asked she said that she wanted to wait to put in our entrée orders. The thing is, that delayed us more by not at least coming to GET our orders. That way, when the appetizer was ready, we wouldn’t have gotten delayed eating our appetizer since we then had to give our entrée orders when we could have given our entrée orders WELL BEFORE THAT and we would have gotten our entrées faster due to that she could have just left to put our entrée orders into the computer after delivering our appetizer instead of taking time to order when our appetizer was sitting in front of us. The point is, SHE delayed our entrées as well as to be able to start eating our appetizer because she could have at least TAKEN our entrée orders and then when our appetizer would have been brought out, could have immediately gone to the computer to put our entrée orders in. What she did was make us wait while our hot appetizer was sitting in front of us, we couldn’t touch it, because we had to order our entrées and could have done that wayyy before that. She also delayed our entrées because we had to spend extra time AFTER our appetizer arrived to give her our entrée orders when we could have done that wayyyy before that.
3. Once, we had a waitress that assumed that because they were out of raspberry topping for a cheesecake slice when we had ordered dessert that she’d bring us strawberry. Turns out, she knew when she put in the order that the computer had it the manager told us. So she did it on PURPOSE to be so lazy and uncaring as to not come to ask if we wanted the next closest thing. We didn’t, we sent it back, so she had MORE WORK. Also, she didn’t even think about what if someone is allergic to strawberries. I just honestly can’t believe someone would do that. If they are out of something, common sense would be to come to see if the next closest thing is ok. Not everyone wants the next closest thing. So it wasn’t like it was just getting the order wrong by accident or by not verifying the written order with what she was bringing or putting in the order wrong by accident, this was on PURPOSE to be LAZY and to ASSUME. I didn’t know at first that she did that. I thought at first she just was that stupid(or truly just messed up(highly doubt it)) to bring us strawberries on top of a cheesecake when we ordered raspberries.
4. Your server delays coming to get your order or delays you ordering due to personal conversation. We have had that before as well. Once, we had a waiter that we didn’t know after waiting 15 mins. for a table on Mardi Gras day ask us BEFORE we ORDERED ANYTHING “How’s y’all’s Mardi Gras” “Go to any parades.” See, I don’t mind chit chat with a stranger, but be considerate to do it AFTER we have our orders into the computer so you don’t take up our time.
We have also had servers not come to get our order due to playing around. Sometimes taking a long time or a longer time has A LOT to do with the server: My husband and I have had 3 TIMES where servers FORGOT to put food orders into the computer. We also have 8 times servers forget to get bar drinks from the bar. Once a waitress forgot to put in a bar drink into the computer. Two of the 3 times it was an appetizer and the servers ADMITTED doing so. The third time was a cup of bisque which is normally served before a meal just like a side salad is. My husband and I also have had delays due to that the servers delayed putting orders into the computer when they COULD have such as deciding to buss a table first or decide instead of a mini-greet(I’ll be right with you all), one waiter I saw decided to take a party of 6 people’s drink/appetizer orders instead of putting in our food orders into the computer. I can understand if they call you over, but if they don’t, you should be putting that order into the computer not delaying our food. The longer you wait to put in orders, the LONGER WE WAIT!! So truly think about that MOST of the time when you wait a LONG TIME for your food or bar drinks even, it could be the server’s fault. 9 times out of 10, your server had *SOMETHING* to do with the delay in most cases! That’s the GOD’S TRUTH!
I am not sure why people like you actually not thinking about this issue with COMMON SENSE? Please explain??? Do you EVER eat out?
and on many occasions, the kitchen is actually backed up
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23871423 - 11/27/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:and on many occasions, the kitchen is actually backed up
On MOST occasions though, the kitchen is not backed up. Just yesterday, our waitress took our food orders, then went to the table next to us that DID NOT CALL HER OVER and I heard the customer say "I'm fine on my iced tea", in other words WASTING TIME because the lady didn't even need our waitress and our food orders weren't put in YET as she was holding it in her head(she didn't write them down even) and didn't put it into the computer. LOTS of servers do this, which even if the kitchen is backed up, the food takes longer due to YOUR SERVER that did NOT go put in the order AS QUICKLY as they could have. I mean if the lady at the table next to us called her over, then I would have been OK with that, but our waitress decided to CUT turns, therefore, our food took longer due our WAITRESS, NOT the kitchen staff.
I have more and more times that servers are at fault for long waits through experiences we have gone through whether they bring out something that is completely wrong or they forget something I ordered.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23871428 - 11/27/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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BERSERK DESTROYER said: the Mexican-Negro-Christian complex?
*Mexican-Negro-Christian Industrial Complex
some days I dont even know why I bother
"Christian" supplants "Industrial", fool. That person's first post was insanely indignant about this one issue.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Springs1] 2
#23871444 - 11/27/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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tl;dr but from a glance people like you are why I could never work in a service industry.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23871483 - 11/27/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: tl;dr but from a glance people like you are why I could never work in a service industry.
People like me that tell the TRUTH?? I don't understand why the TRUTH makes a person be a bad person to you?
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Springs1] 1
#23871499 - 11/27/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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No people who are entitled and testy. It's pretty easy to just be patient and understanding even when things don't go your way. If you don't like the way they run their business, don't go back. Getting all worked up won't change anything other than the level of pain in your anus.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Springs1]
#23871500 - 11/27/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: tl;dr but from a glance people like you are why I could never work in a service industry.
People like me that tell the TRUTH?? I don't understand why the TRUTH makes a person be a bad person to you?
Those are both statements, and do not require question marks. Unless you're genuinely questioning yourself on these false statements.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23871516 - 11/27/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: tl;dr but from a glance people like you are why I could never work in a service industry.
I bet Springs1 is a hit at parties though.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: psi]
#23871528 - 11/27/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know people who I can go out to eat with and when we leave they will have a list of complaints about this and that, and will give me dirty looks for leaving a decent tip. I would like to be able to say it is tied to religion, because I love pinning shit on religion, but I don't think it is. Plenty of religious people are like me where they'll just enjoy having service and have a good time, plenty aren't.
What interests me is that many religious people seem to think that without religion someone loses all capacity for empathy and becomes a creature of cold, hard logic. This just isn't the case. Generosity and kindness are not exclusive to the religious, and the fact that for some a mandate from a god is required to behave like this is telling to me.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Springs1] 1
#23871534 - 11/27/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: and on many occasions, the kitchen is actually backed up
On MOST occasions though, the kitchen is not backed up. Just yesterday, our waitress took our food orders, then went to the table next to us that DID NOT CALL HER OVER and I heard the customer say "I'm fine on my iced tea", in other words WASTING TIME because the lady didn't even need our waitress and our food orders weren't put in YET as she was holding it in her head(she didn't write them down even) and didn't put it into the computer. LOTS of servers do this, which even if the kitchen is backed up, the food takes longer due to YOUR SERVER that did NOT go put in the order AS QUICKLY as they could have. I mean if the lady at the table next to us called her over, then I would have been OK with that, but our waitress decided to CUT turns, therefore, our food took longer due our WAITRESS, NOT the kitchen staff.
I understand completely because in that 30 second delay just to see if her other customers needed anything you could have starved to death, god knows that 30 seconds was the difference in your food coming out an hour before you arrived and 6 weeks after your death. yes, you certainly need a dedicated waitron unit that will be there the moment you walk through the door with your drinks already on the table before you're seated and can transmit your order via telapathy to the cooks so that by the time the waitron unit leaves the table it can begin to deliver your food. AND NEVER, EVER CUT TURNS by asking another customer if they need anything because that would be taking their attention off you
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I have more and more times that servers are at fault for long waits through experiences we have gone through whether they bring out something that is completely wrong or they forget something I ordered.
I suspect you're the problem, you got bent out of shape because a waitress did her job in an efficient and courteous manner, that the waitress didnt set you as her absolute top priority in life, heaven forbid that she do her job as opposed to waiting on you hand and foot like the pampered princess you clearly are
get the stick out of your ass and understand that the world doesnt revolve around you
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#23871548 - 11/27/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: I know people who I can go out to eat with and when we leave they will have a list of complaints about this and that, and will give me dirty looks for leaving a decent tip. I would like to be able to say it is tied to religion, because I love pinning shit on religion, but I don't think it is. Plenty of religious people are like me where they'll just enjoy having service and have a good time, plenty aren't.
what it is is there's a small percentage of the population that you simply cannot satisfy no matter what you do for them, they're little princesses that need your undivided attention, if you greet them the wrong way they complein, if you greet them the right way they complain, if the ice cubes are too cold they call the manager and blame you for it, some days the ice cubes are too hot because they're melting in the drink
I'm pretty sure that spring1 has made those complaints before, it's really just an excuse to be a cheapass, no tipping bitch to people so they can feel a little better about their lives and a miserable life it must be if all they do is complain
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Prisoner#1] 2
#23871597 - 11/27/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah my grandmother was like that. I mean I loved her but it was torture going out to eat with her. She'd send a meal back like 3 times without batting an eye, because the ribs don't fall off the bone just the way she likes or some shit like that. It's like "Grandma, we're at the 99 (chain steakhouse), they're just taking it out of the freezer and putting it in the microwave. What do you expect." But she would keep sending it back until we're all done with her meal then stew over it all day. I'd have to wait until she walked away to add to her tip otherwise I'd never hear the end of it.
Next week she's like, "we should go to the 99." 
They'd always give her free meal tickets and be super nice, but if someone who isn't borderline senile tried to pull that I would hate to think what would happen to that food.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23871617 - 11/27/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:I understand completely because in that 30 second delay just to see if her other customers needed anything you could have starved to death, god knows that 30 seconds was the difference
You sound SOOO MEAN and UNCARING of a human being. EVERY SECOND COUNTS and EVERYONE has TURNS. So you think it's OK if you are in the middle of giving your server your order that I tap your server on the shoulder to ask for a couple of refills? I bet you'd be PISSED and you know it, don't lie!
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Prisoner#1 said:I suspect you're the problem, you got bent out of shape because a waitress did her job in an efficient and courteous manner, that the waitress didnt set you as her absolute top priority in life, heaven forbid that she do her job as opposed to waiting on you hand and foot like the pampered princess you clearly areget the stick out of your ass and understand that the world doesnt revolve around you
I am not the one with the problem. HOW is it "EFFICIENT" to the FIRST TABLE IDIOT, HUH? It's not more efficient if you were first and have to wait longer because your server cut. ARE YOU THIS STUPID that anyone would have to explain this, huh? By checking up on other tables that the server didn't get called over for is giving faster service to them instead of the 1st person's turn by CUTTING TURNS. I expect my server to go by **TURNS** and NOT CUT to ********RESPECT******** our time if they want us to *****RESPECT****** their payment at the end called a tip. That means that I don't expect the world to revolve around me, but they sure expect the world to revolve around their income, so WHY I can't expect respect back from the person that wants and expects my money called a tip that I LEGALLY don't have to pay them, huh??
You are VERY MEAN. I pointed out the truth and you just can't handle it, can you? The server didn't do their job. Their job is to ***RESPECT*** the customer's time by going by *****TURNS******* just like I respect them when they are at another table that I don't go interrupt someone else's service at another table by acting like I am the only customer that I wait my turn. The thing is, the server is doing the cutting and I cannot control that part, I can only control if I choose to cut or not, which I don't do cutting. I don't go up to my server while they are at another table to ask for things. That's rude. So I expect the SAME RESPECT BACK. HOW HORRIBLE to think that a customer would want the same respect???
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: PatrickKn]
#23871621 - 11/27/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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PatrickKn said: Those are both statements, and do not require question marks. Unless you're genuinely questioning yourself on these false statements.
These are not false statements, READ MY PROOF which you don't have. WHERE'S YOUR PROOF YOU ARE RIGHT? That's right, you don't have any, do you?
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23871627 - 11/27/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: No people who are entitled and testy. It's pretty easy to just be patient and understanding even when things don't go your way. If you don't like the way they run their business, don't go back. Getting all worked up won't change anything other than the level of pain in your anus.
It has nothing to do with going my way, it has to do with MORALS and doing it the way it is SUPPOSED to be done. If another party asked for their check that is right by us, I sure don't expect our server to come to ask us if we need anything until they get their check. If the server does ask us and let's say I say we'd like 2 refills. I sure don't expect our server to get the refills and make the poor person at the other table wait ALL that TIME to get to pay and leave when they asked first.
It's not the way the business is ran, it's the way the SERVER DECIDES to CUT OR NOT. That IS what it is.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Springs1]
#23871635 - 11/27/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're a real piece of work, lady. You should spend some time in other countries so you can see what bad service actually is.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Springs1]
#23871653 - 11/27/16 10:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Getting that hyped up about minor shit all the time can't be that great for your health either. If restaurants are that upsetting then why go?
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Springs1]
#23871687 - 11/27/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:I understand completely because in that 30 second delay just to see if her other customers needed anything you could have starved to death, god knows that 30 seconds was the difference
You sound SOOO MEAN and UNCARING of a human being. EVERY SECOND COUNTS and EVERYONE has TURNS. So you think it's OK if you are in the middle of giving your server your order that I tap your server on the shoulder to ask for a couple of refills? I bet you'd be PISSED and you know it, don't lie!
now in your earlier story the waitress took your order and stopped at the table and asked those customers if they needed a refill, now suddenly they've tapped her on the shoulder while you were in the middle of ordering. I suspect the reality of it is that you are the type to tap a waitress on the shoulder and demand attention while another table is trying to order, because you know, every second counts
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I am not the one with the problem. HOW is it "EFFICIENT" to the FIRST TABLE IDIOT, HUH? It's not more efficient if you were first and have to wait longer because your server cut. ARE YOU THIS STUPID that anyone would have to explain this, huh? By checking up on other tables that the server didn't get called over for is giving faster service to them instead of the 1st person's turn by CUTTING TURNS. I expect my server to go by **TURNS** and NOT CUT to ********RESPECT******** our time if they want us to *****RESPECT****** their payment at the end called a tip. That means that I don't expect the world to revolve around me, but they sure expect the world to revolve around their income, so WHY I can't expect respect back from the person that wants and expects my money called a tip that I LEGALLY don't have to pay them, huh??
wow, and you believe you arent the one with the problem
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You are VERY MEAN. I pointed out the truth and you just can't handle it, can you?
yeah, you certainly showed us the truth. without a doubt.
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The server didn't do their job. Their job is to ***RESPECT*** the customer's time by going by *****TURNS******* just like I respect them when they are at another table that I don't go interrupt someone else's service at another table by acting like I am the only customer that I wait my turn. The thing is, the server is doing the cutting and I cannot control that part, I can only control if I choose to cut or not, which I don't do cutting.
do you believe that a waitress should serve a table from start to finish without ever assisting other customers? you keep talking about them 'cutting turns', so clearly you believe that once the server approaches the table they must belong to you for the duration of your visit
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I don't go up to my server while they are at another table to ask for things. That's rude. So I expect the SAME RESPECT BACK. HOW HORRIBLE to think that a customer would want the same respect???
now let's refresh... where did those other customers interrupt your ordering?
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Springs1 said: Just yesterday, our waitress took our food orders, then went to the table next to us that DID NOT CALL HER OVER and I heard the customer say "I'm fine on my iced tea", in other words WASTING TIME because the lady didn't even need our waitress and our food orders weren't put in YET as she was holding it in her head
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23871762 - 11/27/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Springs sounds like a spoiled child.
If the server takes your order, and asks another table if they need any refills on the way back to ring your order up, it's because they can enter your order and get the refills while in the vicinity of the kitchen. Multitasking. It is more efficient like that rather than running back and forth. And in this example, the table who is being offered refills is clearly there before you, so clearly they deserve priority over you based on your own selfish perspective. Also, some orders take longer to cook than others.
Like I said earlier, a more deciding factor than belief system is whether or not the person has worked in food service before.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Springs1]
#23871765 - 11/27/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Springs1, will you marry me?
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