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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: SARAtonin]
#23870264 - 11/26/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Really they seem to have some notion that someone's lot in life is tied to their spiritual well being, but the catch in their logic to me is that they associate this with material well-being. I can identify with the ascetic side of Jesus where such things shouldn't matter, and be given freely, but we're all human and like those things. It's just a nice thing to give someone a couple bucks. If you can't afford a tip, cook your own food. If you can afford it and you don't tip, you're an asshole. I don't need a priest to tell me that.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23870285 - 11/26/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: I completely agree with the 10%\18% thing though, why in the fuck is an automatic 18% tip figured into the bill? That's fucked
it was a party of 10, most restaurants when you exceed 6 guests will automatically add a gratuity because it does cause a disruption of normal service, they have to pull tables together, it puts a much larger load on the waitron units which also pulls them away from the other customers they also have to serve
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I always tip about 20% but for some one to assume they worth such a tip is insulting, I'd prolly tip nothing too explcept without the lecture 
if you dont agree with the system sit as 2 tables and tip based on service, or simply dont go out to eat. I'm a very generous tipper. I start at the 20% range and the tip can go up or down depending on the service, it's rarely reduced and frequently increased and in order for me to stiff you, you'd have to be exceptionally inattentive, if I see you giving great service to other customers while ignoring my table... you'll get a heart felt and personal, face to face explanation as to why you're not getting tipped
I'm an awesome tipper as well, give me good service and I'll give you a good tip, starting at 20% as well, that said, I don't think i should be expected to pay 18% if I'm only used to paying 10-15%, if pulling tables together is really that big of a deal the restaurant should just refuse to do it or add an "inconvenience charge" I refuse to accept that I have to leave a good tip, whether I'm out with my family or not, for Shitty service 
And I'm not gonna give you "a little lecture" about your not getting a tip if you're a shitty server, you're an adult, if you suck at your job, you prolly know it
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23870306 - 11/26/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nobody who is actually a good tipper cares about percents. That is the stuff of cheapskates who pat themselves on the back for giving a half decent tip for excellent service.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23870313 - 11/26/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Nobody who is actually a good tipper cares about percents. That is the stuff of cheapskates who pat themselves on the back for giving a half decent tip for excellent service.
Example: "I'm such a great tipper, I don't use percents"
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23870341 - 11/26/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't know what all this about 'excellent service' is. The waiter/waitress carries a cup full of sugar water to your table, copies down your order (sometimes in pencil even, those clever folk), and walks food to your table. Beyond that, their job is basically to not spill soup on you and to not be a total bitch or dick hole. If we're tipping for superior service alone, I think our standards are too low as it means everyone is over tipping.
I have waited and bar tended before. Any time a waiter/waitress bitches about how hard their job is I assume it's to create some form of self validation for not curing cancer or taking care of the elderly for their money instead. It's literally one of the simplest jobs on the entire planet and most of the stress involved is completely self-induced.
I still tip though, and I tip well. It's because I'm fucking retarded though, not because it's the right thing to do.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23870347 - 11/26/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't. I give what I can and I assure you that 18% is stingy by my metric. I prefer fractions anyway. 1/3 is about right, but really it depends on alot of things. If I spend $100 at a fancy restraunt I will give the same $25 that I would give a waitress at Denny's who served a $40 meal. I'm may not be a Christian but I am a communist.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: PatrickKn]
#23870348 - 11/26/16 08:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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PatrickKn said: I have waited and bar tended before. Any time a waiter/waitress bitches about how hard their job is I assume it's to create some form of self validation for not curing cancer or taking care of the elderly for their money instead. It's literally one of the simplest jobs on the entire planet and most of the stress involved is completely self-induced.
I agree, serving is one of the easiest jobs I've ever had. Anybody who bitches about it being hard hasn't had a real job. Retail is harder. Office work is harder. Sales is harder. Teaching is harder. Advertising is harder. Non-profit work is harder. There's a million other jobs that are way harder.
With that said, you should also know there's a lot more to serving than simply bringing food and drinks to a table.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: PatrickKn]
#23870365 - 11/26/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're right, it's really not that hard,
Be friendly, attentive, and don't let my food get cold
***you'd be surprised how many suck at it
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Crystal G]
#23870375 - 11/26/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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PatrickKn said: I have waited and bar tended before. Any time a waiter/waitress bitches about how hard their job is I assume it's to create some form of self validation for not curing cancer or taking care of the elderly for their money instead. It's literally one of the simplest jobs on the entire planet and most of the stress involved is completely self-induced.
I agree, serving is one of the easiest jobs I've ever had. Anybody who bitches about it being hard hasn't had a real job. Retail is harder. Office work is harder. Sales is harder. Teaching is harder. Advertising is harder. Non-profit work is harder. There's a million other jobs that are way harder.
With that said, you should also know there's a lot more to serving than simply bringing food and drinks to a table.
I have never worked a harder job than serving. Literally made me hate myself and everyone else. I have respect for those folks and what they do, and think they deserve what I give them and more.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23870393 - 11/26/16 08:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: With that said, you should also know there's a lot more to serving than simply bringing food and drinks to a table.
I'm being a tad facetious, but it's about the gist really. Serving is one of the best no education required, minimum wage jobs you can have. Unless you're working at a spot like golden corral or something, it beats the hell out of places like McDonald's which don't get tipped at all. Working decent restaurants will net you plenty of cash. I made around 38k one year working at a slightly upscale pizza shop just serving, cooking and bartending.
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moonrockmushy said: I have never worked a harder job than serving. Literally made me hate myself and everyone else. I have respect for those folks and what they do, and think they deserve what I give them and more.
Go cure cancer or something, jeez.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: PatrickKn]
#23870411 - 11/26/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trust me, I am in the causing cancer industry, but it is far more rewarding to me than lugging plates to fatties all night.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23870473 - 11/26/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trust me, I am in the causing cancer industry, but it is far more rewarding to me than lugging plates to fatties all night.
You growing tobaccy?
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23870483 - 11/26/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: I completely agree with the 10%\18% thing though, why in the fuck is an automatic 18% tip figured into the bill? That's fucked
it was a party of 10, most restaurants when you exceed 6 guests will automatically add a gratuity because it does cause a disruption of normal service, they have to pull tables together, it puts a much larger load on the waitron units which also pulls them away from the other customers they also have to serve
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I always tip about 20% but for some one to assume they worth such a tip is insulting, I'd prolly tip nothing too explcept without the lecture 
if you dont agree with the system sit as 2 tables and tip based on service, or simply dont go out to eat. I'm a very generous tipper. I start at the 20% range and the tip can go up or down depending on the service, it's rarely reduced and frequently increased and in order for me to stiff you, you'd have to be exceptionally inattentive, if I see you giving great service to other customers while ignoring my table... you'll get a heart felt and personal, face to face explanation as to why you're not getting tipped
I'm an awesome tipper as well, give me good service and I'll give you a good tip, starting at 20% as well, that said, I don't think i should be expected to pay 18% if I'm only used to paying 10-15%, if pulling tables together is really that big of a deal the restaurant should just refuse to do it or add an "inconvenience charge" I refuse to accept that I have to leave a good tip, whether I'm out with my family or not, for Shitty service 
as I just explained, it's far more than just pulling table together, it interrupts the flow of the restaurant and the dinner service, maybe you'd like for restaurants to refuse to seat large parties such as an after reception dinner for the newlywed's families and friends.
it's a greater burden to serve larger groups,
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And I'm not gonna give you "a little lecture" about your not getting a tip if you're a shitty server, you're an adult, if you suck at your job, you prolly know it 
some need to be reminded about how shitty they are
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23870503 - 11/26/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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tipping is bullshit, they should be paying you better and just charge more for the food..
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23870505 - 11/26/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Christian coming in for Breakfast will tip less. They are only interested in their de-caf Coffee with butter and melted honey. With a side of Wheat toast perfectly toasted and a mixture of jams. 10 percent tip if they like you, but usually less.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: TranceInTheForest]
#23870509 - 11/26/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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What you're describing is an elderly person. Their Christianity has nothing to do with it, they just aren't too into the tipping bullshit because they've been around the block for far too long.
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23870521 - 11/26/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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as I just explained, it's far more than just pulling table together, it interrupts the flow of the restaurant and the dinner service,
it's a greater burden to serve larger groups,
Oh cry me a river, that's why they should put their best talent on the receptions and whatnot, not the new hire from last week
And when they don't, I don't think the family should be forced to pay extra for crappy service
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maybe you'd like for restaurants to refuse to seat large parties such as an after reception dinner for the newlywed's families and friends.
If it's beyond their capabilities, yes
Let the family eat somewhere that the business actully knows what the fuck they are doing and the service will be good
They shouldn't agree to it, provide them with shitty service, and then expect them to pay an extra 20% for it, that's ridiculous
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23870567 - 11/26/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trust me, I am in the causing cancer industry, but it is far more rewarding to me than lugging plates to fatties all night.
You growing tobaccy?
***or work for Monsanto?
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#23870590 - 11/26/16 09:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think the correlation/causation is off here.
Athiest or Christian is irrelevant. Many factors are involved, most important is if the person eating has ever worked in a food service job before and/or their budget.
Most people who have waited tables or worked in a restaurant will leave a higher tip (unless they are the stuck-up kind who criticize every aspect of the service and compare themselves to the server).
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Re: Who is more likely to not tip? Atheist or Christian? [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
#23870780 - 11/26/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here's an article on tipping I stumbled upon, I'm sure all you tipping nazis will appreciate it,
http://www.upworthy.com/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-tipping-explained-with-stick-figures?c=ufb5
***im not reading it, I already know how to tip
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