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Liberty Caps and Mirtazapine effects
    #23865968 - 11/25/16 12:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Evening guys and gals, hope this is in the appropriate section :-)

This is meant to be my first trip, so after much preparation I decided to eat 1g of my 3g dried Liberty cap collection to get a feel for them, then take the other 2g at a later date. I ground them up and drank them down with orange juice. Tasty. I haven't eaten since the morning, and I imagined the come up would be faster due to them being ground.

Anyway, it's almost 2 hours since I ate them and tbh im not really feeling anything other than a bit heavy headed and dazed haha. Trying to embrace this but it really doesn't seem all that pleasant to be honest! Got some classic Attenborough on big screen and nice music playing, pretty relaxed!

My first thoughts are they're not Libs, however the spot I picked them from is a pretty well known field among mushroomers in the area (the particular area i'm from is known nationwide seemingly!) and they fit the description of Psilocybe semilanceata perfectly.

Your thoughts?

Edited by Tom66 (11/25/16 01:49 PM)

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Re: 2 hours after 1g ground Liberty Caps [Re: Tom66]
    #23865987 - 11/25/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Evening Tom66, since you are feeling dazed it could very well be that you have eaten liberty caps. Although without knowing anything about you or the mushrooms you ate it's impossible to say.

Did they look like pictures of semilanceatas? As in having a crooked stem, and a nipple on the cap etc?
Do you have a large body mass? Do you take any perscription drugs?

Could be that they were the right ones, although just a small feeling of something might be just placebo. Everybody says this all the time but I'll repeat it, please do check everything you eat well enough to be 100% certain of what it is in the future.

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Re: 2 hours after 1g ground Liberty Caps [Re: do it]
    #23866000 - 11/25/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hey, cheers for the reply. Like I said, they look exactly like Liberty caps and I am well led to believe they grow in that location every year in abundance. A friend of mine recently took a smaller dose than I did and described some slight visuals. His were picked on the same day as me. He has much more experience than me and has had a good number of trips in years gone by from Libs picked from the same field.

I actually didnt mention much about myself, apologies. I have a very normal body mass! What did slip my mind is that I am currently on a very low dose of non-benzo anti depressants (mirtazapine) for the purpose of helping me sleep. I have not taken any of that since 10pm last night. Could be that perhaps?

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Re: 2 hours after 1g ground Liberty Caps [Re: Tom66]
    #23866038 - 11/25/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, there's reason to believe they could very well be liberty caps if your friends have shown you the place and they look exactly like the examples people have uploaded.

I'm not that familiar with mirtazapine, but a quick googling did give me some clues that it most likely does diminish the effects of shrooms unfortunately. Some results were even from this board, try searching mirtazapine on this board. Some have warned that combining them might even have ill effects.

I wouldn't worry too much about ill effects since you haven't eaten it today, but it could very well explain the lack of psychedelic effects from the mushrooms.

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Re: 2 hours after 1g ground Liberty Caps [Re: do it]
    #23866045 - 11/25/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ah - here we go. A little embarrassed at myself for not even considering my current medication, I guess it shows how used to taking it I am...
One thread of a few i found that seemed to conclude that although not an SSRI, Mirtazapine (or Remeron) will greatly dampen the effects of mushrooms. Bit late but hey. Dissappointing. I have no idea how this slipped my mind!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/9160140

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Re: 2 hours after 1g ground Liberty Caps [Re: Tom66]
    #23866049 - 11/25/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I must say Im impressed with the amount of info on here :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

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Re: 2 hours after 1g ground Liberty Caps [Re: Tom66]
    #23866071 - 11/25/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Live and learn, we all forget to think about some things occasionally. :smile:

Better luck next time. :mushroom2:

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Re: 2 hours after 1g ground Liberty Caps [Re: do it]
    #23866090 - 11/25/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not being funny but I would hardly get anything from a gram of liberty caps. I'd need at least 3 grams to have a mild trip.

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Re: 2 hours after 1g ground Liberty Caps [Re: wicca mixer]
    #23866115 - 11/25/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yea, we are all different, 1g isn't much but should be noticable for most people... or at least the ones I find growing around here, according to some studies they are often pretty strong in the nordic countries (I'm in Finland).

A friend of mine who's obviously less sensitive to these needed +2g and nitrous oxide to get much psychedelic effects so I do believe that some can need 3. I personally do NOT need that much to get off, my strongest trip to date was 4g lemon tekked and my brain was in shambles the following day. It took some days to be emotionally stable after that.

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Re: Liberty Caps and Mirtazapine effects [Re: Tom66]
    #23866128 - 11/25/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

they werent libs.  prolly a look a like, like pans.



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Re: 2 hours after 1g ground Liberty Caps [Re: wicca mixer]
    #23866138 - 11/25/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

you must have a high tolerance then.  I ate half a gram of libs day before yesterday and was jacked up pretty bad.


a 2-3 grams of liberty caps is a solid tripping dose.  4 grams and you'll probably be sorry.


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Re: 2 hours after 1g ground Liberty Caps [Re: sprinkles]
    #23867135 - 11/25/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Unless you don't wanna trip you shouldn't be taking this medication.

Mirtazapine antagonizes the 5-HT2 serotonin receptors in the central and peripheral nervous system.

Sometimes I use it to completely abort my bad shroom trips. It works better and faster than anything else.


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Re: 2 hours after 1g ground Liberty Caps [Re: sprinkles]
    #23867167 - 11/25/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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you must have a high tolerance then.  I ate half a gram of libs day before yesterday and was jacked up pretty bad.


a 2-3 grams of liberty caps is a solid tripping dose.  4 grams and you'll probably be sorry.



3 to 4 gs of libs can have me leaving my body in a sea of geometry. Depends on the setting but a dose like that will always have me tripping hard.


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