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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23791382 - 11/01/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I could use some help here. I have the mini rounds the potato flakes, karo, and Agar Agar Sea Vegetable Flakes. I weigh out the 2.5g agar, I put the 2 tsp of potato flakes, and the 1/2 cup of water but then it almost turns into mashed potatos, it gets thick. I used less flakes and it came out a little better but still kind of runny after PC'd. While in the pot it kind of separated, all the agar flakes and potato flakes sank below the water. I've used powder agar before and it worked 100% but how can I make this stuff work? Anyone ever work with it before? Eaden Agar Agar Sea Vegetable Flakes.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: AlexSmitt]
    #23791388 - 11/01/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It needs to be cooked at high temp to dissolve well. I ran into that when using the bars. Try and see what it looks like coming out of the PC. Try a bit less flakes and potato as well. Maybe 2 grams agar and 1.5  tsp potato.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23791528 - 11/01/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Trying it now, looks good so far, going into PC now. Is condensation or sweat inside the rounds after PC bad sign?


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: AlexSmitt]
    #23791533 - 11/01/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's normal.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Kenetic]
    #23822002 - 11/11/16 05:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You didn't have to use a flow hoodie even a still air box? How did your jar transfers go


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Shadow of magus]
    #23822018 - 11/11/16 05:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Not sure who you're referring to but I don't think anybody would recommend doing agar transfers in open air.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Inocuole]
    #23822024 - 11/11/16 06:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Less than a month ago I had never even seen agar before....



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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23822103 - 11/11/16 06:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Less than a month ago I had never even seen agar before....





ya know, if you leave the paper towels on, they are a nice place to add your labels


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23824002 - 11/11/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Plus they keep the spore load off your micropore..


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Inocuole]
    #23824006 - 11/11/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Plus they keep the spore load off your micropore..



have you ever seen micropore grow mold?


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23824011 - 11/11/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I dunno, I'm pretty sure I've seen mold grow through micropore.  Never germinate on it, no.  But I don't mean that a high spore load on the micropore will make mold grow on the tape.  I just mean the more spores that hit the "filter" the more likely it is that a few will eventually make it in.

Any filter is inevitably less effective when the spore load is high, and micropore as a filter leaves some to be desired.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Inocuole]
    #23824027 - 11/11/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I know I've removed moldy ass micropore tape before. I don't know how it got that way, but I know mold was growing on it. What occurred to me, was that there may have been some nutrition from the agar that got into tape during PC. Because I also thought it was strange something like that could grow mold.

That said, I am also of the ritualists that say not to remove the sacred paper towel. I dunno. I know it doesn't make sense, but I'm sure it cuts on aircurrents and drafts that could move around the spores already there. And it's good for labelling.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: dankington]
    #23824050 - 11/11/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It straight up keeps dust from landing there, so I mean... Seems important to me.  It's one of those things where contams would have to do some serious acrobatics to get around the paper towel and through the micropore.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Inocuole]
    #23824072 - 11/11/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

and when your filter's dicey to begin with… you take all the precautions you can.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: dankington] * 1
    #23824177 - 11/11/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome tek! Im getting ready to jump into agar and this tek is great!


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Inocuole]
    #23824988 - 11/12/16 06:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I dunno, I'm pretty sure I've seen mold grow through micropore.  Never germinate on it, no.


I have rubbed in powdered salt on my filters before, but salt could attack metal, I did it on plastic containers. They are not micropore but I have seen black growth on them. Too much salt could block the filter up too so I am unsure if its a good idea.

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Inocuole said:Any filter is inevitably less effective when the spore load is high, and micropore as a filter leaves some to be desired.


I have seen people talking about testing filters with actual contaminant spores. Not sure what spores would be the smallest, or if testing with cubensis spores would be worthwhile. I do not like the idea of purposely growing out mould to test them, but if it could be done in a remote location in a safe manner it would be interesting. There could be a way to do it in a fairly contained manner, like grow mould in dishes and place them inside a sealed plastic bag with test filter jars, then you can open the contaminated ones from outside, by handling through the bag, without ever opening the bag and dust it over your filtered dishes, then leave it all inside the bag and see if anything grows. Then dump the lot without ever opening.

I have paper kitchen towels over some of my jar filters. I also put small plastic sandwich bags loosely over most of my jars which already have filters. I did this on jars with no filters and just cracked lids but now do it on others. I have also wiped some of the jars and bags with vaseline so if contams do drift upwards they will hopefully stick to it.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: blackout]
    #23866349 - 11/25/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

When you add honey to this Tek are you adding literally a good drop of honey with no measurements or is there some type of amount that youre looking for  ?


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: tripo3]
    #23866355 - 11/25/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's no rocket science. Just a drop of honey. Not too much just a drop.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: enlightenment]
    #23866478 - 11/25/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

A drop is way more than enough for the recipe. If you're not germinating spores I would just leave the drop of honey out of the mix.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23866921 - 11/25/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Anywhere between a small drop and a large drop.  If you squeeze the bottle of honey, the smallest unit you can get to fall out is the amount you want.  90% of the time, every time.


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