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OfflineBANANA.MAN
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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: Mescalean]
    #23867165 - 11/25/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Mescalean said:
my proof against this study is whip its. whip its people.



What about them. They are moreish af yes but what is your point?

Im intruiged because i just got a shipment in after only having one box left for a while. I told myself i could have 3 and i just kept going. I was only supposed to do them when i trip.


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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: Mescalean]
    #23867168 - 11/25/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's simple rats don't have to deal with being judge by other rats... we humans think we're being judge when we only judge ourselves in essence we don't think we're good enough , or we could be better.  This is the driving force behind addiction


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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: SinSemilla]
    #23867173 - 11/25/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The rats don't think there's anything wrong with them .    We humans do


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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: SinSemilla]
    #23867175 - 11/25/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I did a scientiific ecsperiemtn and most heterosexual rats will suck another rats cock for a minimal amount of enticement.


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OfflineMescalean
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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23867177 - 11/25/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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BANANA.MAN said:
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Mescalean said:
my proof against this study is whip its. whip its people.



What about them. They are moreish af yes but what is your point?

Im intruiged because i just got a shipment in after only having one box left for a while. I told myself i could have 3 and i just kept going. I was only supposed to do them when i trip.




my point is banana man, that if this study were true they would have no signifigance, but i will avoid socializing if someone gave me a few 50 packs for the day. they are too good when you have them. nor do people seek them out of isolation


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OfflineMescalean
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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23867178 - 11/25/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
I did a scientiific ecsperiemtn and most heterosexual rats will suck another rats cock for a minimal amount of enticement.




and as a man of science did you do your job and record it all on video?


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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: Mescalean]
    #23867412 - 11/25/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Its funny, i never knew what people meant by lucid dreaming until later in life, i assumed the control i had in my dreams was typical, i think that any dream that i didnt have control over no matter how otherwise pleasant wpuld be terrifying, however i dont remember most of my dreams and most that i do are mundane, i have wondered if maybe my aspergers contributes in anyway, or if im so frightened by the idea of not having control that i dont remember, but Good luck with the lucid dreaming though.


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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: KThunderland]
    #23867432 - 11/25/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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KThunderland said:
Its funny, i never knew what people meant by lucid dreaming until later in life, i assumed the control i had in my dreams was typical, i think that any dream that i didnt have control over no matter how otherwise pleasant wpuld be terrifying, however i dont remember most of my dreams and most that i do are mundane, i have wondered if maybe my aspergers contributes in anyway, or if im so frightened by the idea of not having control that i dont remember, but Good luck with the lucid dreaming though.




yea thats strange... I think they both have there benefits. Like I wouldnt want to control my dreams ALL the time because sometimes my brain will just show me the most bizzare random wierd stuff that I could never think of.


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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23867444 - 11/25/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Im gonna kick them rats to the fuckin moon
They can rat-PARK their goddamn pseudoscience in a dumpster




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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23867449 - 11/25/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I wonder if rats in New York do more heroin than rats native to the forest.


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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23867455 - 11/25/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My gfs dadhave me an ativan yu


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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23867464 - 11/25/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You see people who end up in their own self imposed skinner boxes as a result of their desire to keep the high going.


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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23867468 - 11/25/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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ModestMouse said:
My gfs dadhave me an ativan yu




Did you just press the lever?


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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: koods]
    #23867470 - 11/25/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Fucj u koods gey off my coc


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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: kakashi68]
    #23867471 - 11/25/16 10:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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KThunderland said:
Its funny, i never knew what people meant by lucid dreaming until later in life, i assumed the control i had in my dreams was typical, i think that any dream that i didnt have control over no matter how otherwise pleasant wpuld be terrifying, however i dont remember most of my dreams and most that i do are mundane, i have wondered if maybe my aspergers contributes in anyway, or if im so frightened by the idea of not having control that i dont remember, but Good luck with the lucid dreaming though.




yea thats strange... I think they both have there benefits. Like I wouldnt want to control my dreams ALL the time because sometimes my brain will just show me the most bizzare random wierd stuff that I could never think of.



I do feel a bit like i have missed out in the typical dream experience, it wasnt until i started experimenting with lsd and later mushrooms that i realized that it wasnt really normal, also strangley enough i have quite a bit of control on my trips (at moderate doses with mushrooms, pretty high doses with mesc, no control at all with dmt lol thats the time when i lose all sense of time and really dream) i prwobaly sound pretty strange right now, i wish i was eloquent enough a writer to explain it lol


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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23867511 - 11/25/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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ModestMouse said:
Fucj u koods gey off my coc



Im down


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Re: The rat park experiment is a crock of shit [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23867790 - 11/26/16 02:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
I did the finger counting with limited success too.

I find that drinking lots of water before bed, and additional water everytime you get up to pee in the night, makes me remember more dreams.

Also, anybody interested in the dream world needs to read a carl jung book or 10.



This is a common method for lucid dreaming when you get up like that.

A really good way (the best ime) is to set an alarm about 5 hours after you initally lay down to sleep. The idea is you enter yoir dreamstate (REM) around 5 hours into the sleep cycle, simply wake yourself up, do something minor (just enough so you know you're awake, no looking around the room won't work you may end up just dreaming about looking around which is very common for me anymore, just be active enough you remember what you did in the middle of the night) then lay back down to sleep and you should slip straight into a dream.


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