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Colonel
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Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) 1
#23864477 - 11/24/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Found these in the PNW while searching for other Psilosybe strains. They seem to look close to Seribicas although this may be a bit of a stretch. Any help would be appreciated!
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P. Ovoideocystidiata P. Cyanescens P. Northwest Colonel's Roatan/Honduras LC Thai Lipa Yai Monotub Grow
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Colonel]
#23864589 - 11/24/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is there a hygrophonous cap?
What color r the spores?
Any bruising of any color?
Quite fribulous those stripes are
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Raven44]
#23864671 - 11/24/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I didn't take a spore print as i wasn't quite sure, I was hoping someone could identify them through a photo although i didn't take any caps either just the photos. I'm going to assume they aren't Serbicas as there was no hygrophonous cap on any visible, they seems to be slightly stained blue initially which shows in the photo but its inconclusive.
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Colonel]
#23864679 - 11/24/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Blaughst
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Raven44]
#23864710 - 11/24/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I will return to the spot tomorrow for a print although there were actually a few hygrophonous caps. Normally i would just forget it but it would be great to expand my variety further.
Any other input would be appreciated
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P. Ovoideocystidiata P. Cyanescens P. Northwest Colonel's Roatan/Honduras LC Thai Lipa Yai Monotub Grow
Edited by Colonel (11/24/16 09:16 PM)
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Colonel]
#23864734 - 11/24/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe wait for more input before ya go back
If ur interested in a trade I have some serbica prints
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Raven44]
#23864830 - 11/24/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psilocybe azurescens
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: inski]
#23864862 - 11/24/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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U seem so sure inksi?
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Raven44]
#23864875 - 11/24/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, I'm fairly certain this is P. azurescens.
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: inski]
#23864888 - 11/24/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here's another shot, I see where you're coming from with the azurescens although i doubt these are azures. They seem to resemble the Serbica closest although they could just be strange. Stem doesn't seem white enough but i could be wrong always good to get another set of eyes.
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P. Ovoideocystidiata P. Cyanescens P. Northwest Colonel's Roatan/Honduras LC Thai Lipa Yai Monotub Grow
Edited by Colonel (11/24/16 10:49 PM)
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Colonel]
#23865088 - 11/25/16 01:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The stem color seems off to be an azure.
Looks like a galernia to me from that stem color. Curious on the spore print.
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Colonel]
#23865231 - 11/25/16 04:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is there any bluing? I can't see it. Looks a bit like Hypholoma marginatum, especially the stems.
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23865295 - 11/25/16 06:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: The stem color seems off to be an azure.
Looks like a galernia to me from that stem color. Curious on the spore print.
Yeah azurescens stems are not so fibrillous in age or ever for that matter, they are usually stark white when young and reddish color with age. I do see bruising in the picture of the picked mushrooms. Hmm interesting.
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Anglerfish]
#23865302 - 11/25/16 06:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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kerngarrett said:

Is there any bluing? I can't see it. Looks a bit like Hypholoma marginatum, especially the stems. 
Now that I went back and looked at pictures of Hypholoma marginatum it does look like that a lot. Do you see any bluing in the pictures of picked mushrooms? I swear that the stems are have some but at second glance I think it's the lighting.
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Sk8nshram]
#23865326 - 11/25/16 06:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah... I was hoping inski would care to elaborate
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Sk8nshram]
#23865345 - 11/25/16 06:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sk8nshram said: Now that I went back and looked at pictures of Hypholoma marginatum it does look like that a lot. Do you see any bluing in the pictures of picked mushrooms? I swear that the stems are have some but at second glance I think it's the lighting.
I don't see any blue in these pictures, only shades of grey.Where I live, I see loads of H. marginatum every fall, growing from wood chips just like this, and one of the striking features are the fibrillous stems that have a silky, almost silvery sheen especially in young specimens. The texture of the stem is usually stiff, almost like a twig.
I found the following a few years back. Try to compare to OP's pictures (note that the color settings on my camera were set to "intense"):
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Anglerfish]
#23865375 - 11/25/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Go back OP this is gonna cause a ruckus lmao jk
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Anglerfish]
#23865379 - 11/25/16 07:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I want to agree with you, looks like Hypholoma marginatum.
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: TheDuder]
#23865386 - 11/25/16 07:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't like to be in the bidness of disagreeing with Inski but those look like Hypholoma to me also
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: doctorghosty]
#23865389 - 11/25/16 07:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm guessing those rotten specimens would be showing some bluing if they were azzies?
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Raven44]
#23865407 - 11/25/16 07:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I appreciate all the input guys, I agree with the majority of you it does seem to be H. marginatum. I came across those the other day and these seemed to be similar but i'd say its always worth a double check. Thanks again!
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Colonel]
#23865409 - 11/25/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Happy hunting guys, get as much as you can in before the seasons over!
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: doctorghosty]
#23865471 - 11/25/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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doctorghosty said: I don't like to be in the bidness of disagreeing with Inski but those look like Hypholoma to me also
I'm thinking the same as you. What makes me doubt my own assumptions in this case are the gills in OP's find. They have an overall Psilocybe look, with whitish gill edges that I never remember seeing in Hypholoma marginatum. Also, the gill colors in Hypholoma tend to be more grayish black in maturity, rather than purplish brown.
But those stems, and lack of blue... hmm. 
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Re: Identification Help (Possible Psilocybe Serbica) [Re: Anglerfish]
#23868992 - 11/26/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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doctorghosty said: I don't like to be in the bidness of disagreeing with Inski but those look like Hypholoma to me also
I'm thinking the same as you. What makes me doubt my own assumptions in this case are the gills in OP's find. They have an overall Psilocybe look, with whitish gill edges that I never remember seeing in Hypholoma marginatum. Also, the gill colors in Hypholoma tend to be more grayish black in maturity, rather than purplish brown.
But those stems, and lack of blue... hmm.  
Yes, please guys, your disagreement is warranted, I was wrong and agree it looks like Hypholoma.
I thought I could see blue staining in the stipes in the second image in the original post
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