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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: Kenetic]
    #23865920 - 11/25/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I'd love to see some more info on this. No matter what I do I always seem to have a little bacteria in my spawn.  I can't see it but it makes my jars smell a little musty



PC about 60g of rice, inoculate with spores, transfer to T-Agar or T-Gel balanced to Ph 6.
Then isolate a clean section about 28mm away from the spawn sample.

Pass to tea infused grains or normal grains as spawn.

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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: Ferather]
    #23866114 - 11/25/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23866182 - 11/25/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Im definitely having a go at this one. I can never get my grains just right so this could be the key to me succeeding.


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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: Tyrannical Justice]
    #23866763 - 11/25/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

what's wrong with low ph for cube myc? only problem with low pH is that lower fungi loves it, but those cant handle higher pH, thats why we lime casing layers.


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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: spacechildo] * 1
    #23867072 - 11/25/16 07:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Im with kenetic i have bacteria issues as well this is interesting


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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23867483 - 11/25/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

interesting :strokebeard:

So this method u cannot innocate with spores? Has to be a live culture to the anti-bact grains?


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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23867655 - 11/25/16 11:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds just like the way gentamicin sulfate kills fungal spores, including cubensis spores. Strictly speaking they CAN germinate on antibacterial agar, but it's much less likely than standard agar.


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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23867891 - 11/26/16 05:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Correct


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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: r.lutece]
    #23868003 - 11/26/16 07:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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what's wrong with low ph for cube myc? only problem with low pH is that lower fungi loves it, but those cant handle higher pH, thats why we lime casing layers.



The lower Ph T-Gel test I did, increased bacterial activity for 2 days. Ph 6 did the opposite, no activity.


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Sounds just like the way gentamicin sulfate kills fungal spores, including cubensis spores. Strictly speaking they CAN germinate on antibacterial agar, but it's much less likely than standard agar.



Agreed. You can germinate mold on almost any "open air safe" grow, its just very low in chance.

Mold germinates very well on the remaining tea waste leaves, solubles removed.


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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: MudaFuka]
    #23868008 - 11/26/16 07:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I use tough actin Tinactin.




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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: Inocuole]
    #23868150 - 11/26/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Here we have accidental germination of Golden oyster spores after 2.8 days.
Paper, enriched with tea leaves and fertilizer, 88% water content.

   

Very strong, very radial, uniform growth.


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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: Ferather]
    #23868177 - 11/26/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

kinda sorta related: I am doing side by side P. mexicana Jalisco truffles, one ysed a 50:50 coffee:water ratio and one 50:50 tea:water. The coffee is laying waste to the tea, though the tea is still colonizing.


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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: PlantManBee]
    #23868197 - 11/26/16 08:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Lots of starch in coffee, its kinda like roasted rye berry's. No starch in tea, not so comparable.
Still I am interested on how well that coffee does given it has been highly roasted.

Which is good for being clean to start with, bad for nutrition.


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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: Ferather]
    #23868231 - 11/26/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Lots of starch in coffee, its kinda like roasted rye berry's. No starch in tea, not so comparable.
Still I am interested on how well that coffee does given it has been highly roasted.

Which is good for being clean to start with, bad for nutrition.



Bad for nutrition? Coffee is a nitrogen powerhouse and molds fast as all fuck left liquid or grounds


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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23868245 - 11/26/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't disagree with it working, because it is widely used.
Still what happens if you roast rye until black?


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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: Ferather]
    #23868279 - 11/26/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Tastes like shit. Still plenty of nutrition. It doesn't evaporate off. Cubensis may not prefer if blackened but most other things couldn't give a shit. Macronutrient may be broken down sure but that doesn't matter much to most microorganisms. PH may change too but also not a big game changing thing with fungi


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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: Ferather]
    #23868314 - 11/26/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Mmmmm...i am dubious as to high starch in coffee. Comparatively sure. But it still has VERY few calories, of which a fairly high percentage is protein .

EDIT: 2 calories for an 8 oz cup. So starch and sugars.


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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: PlantManBee]
    #23868336 - 11/26/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Fair enough bodhisatta, as long as my point was recognized correctly. No argument here on usefulness.

@PlantManBee, There is 28.5g of starch and 14.6g of protein per 100g dry roasted coffee.


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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: Ferather]
    #23868363 - 11/26/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

We are using brewed coffee, correct? It's the water extracted values that are going to apply iiuc


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Re: How to make antibacterial grains [Re: PlantManBee]
    #23868370 - 11/26/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No offence but you are comparing brewed tea to brewed coffee, so you still have starch in the coffee as a difference.
The other thing is are you using the leaves alongside, because coffee is fully soluble in comparison.


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