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OfflineWhyDidiDoThis
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Re: Inactive P. cinctulus or P. fimicola?? [Re: ambc]
    #23862475 - 11/24/16 02:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Olebramserud said:
20-30grams and I just felt me depressed. They all looked the same , maybe I picked one or two olivaceus,..





HAD YOU DRIED THE MUSHROOMS, OR WERE THEY STILL FRESH?



my breif experience with picking Cincts and LOTS of P. Accumantis
I've onely felt effects from them fresh.


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Re: Inactive P. cinctulus or P. fimicola?? [Re: WhyDidiDoThis]
    #23863184 - 11/24/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's apparently a rare species found mostly in Northern Europe. I have seen it being mentioned before, but haven't really researched it. Now when I think about it, I believe I have seen it once growing together with P. cinctulus in my old horse dung piles. Didn't know what it was at that time (6 years ago) but noticed that they had colors more towards olivaceus than cinctulus.

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Panaeolus subfirmus vokser på gødning eller gødningspåvirket jord. Den er siden 2005 fundet på en række kyst- eller sønære lokaliteter. Den er tilsyneladende nyindvandret og under spredning i Danmark.
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Udbredelse: Panaeolus subfirmus er kendt fra Storbritannien, Holland, Danmark, Sverige og Finland. Den er anført på den nationale rødliste i Holland (Arnolds & van Ommering 1996).

http://svampe.databasen.org/taxon/45694




And here's a pdf describing it:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/269518375_Panaeolus_Subfirmus_Agaricales_Basidiomycota_a_Species_New_for_Poland

So is it recognized as a species based only on microscopic features or do we have DNA as well? It would be interesting to get some to place it on the phylogenetic tree...


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