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AllDay420
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: stevo]
#23888170 - 12/02/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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stevo said: I can see why people say they look like Ps cubensis, because they do.
Yes, I must say they do look *slightly* superficially like cubes, but they are ovoids. Only *slightly* like cubes in my opinion.
I know they are ovoids though.
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: AllDay420]
#23888174 - 12/02/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Deal, I got a couple of cool spore prints. They might be a little old but they have been well kept.
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AllDay420
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maynardjameskeenan said: Deal, I got a couple of cool spore prints. They might be a little old but they have been well kept.
Fuck yeah dude, that's us brother.
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Shu
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: AllDay420]
#23888239 - 12/02/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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AllDay420 said: Let's put money on the table.
They're frickin ovoids dudesssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll take $20USD on cubensis.
Deal?
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AllDay420
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Shu]
#23888242 - 12/02/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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maynardjameskeenan has placed $20USD on team cubes table. Shu has placed $20USD on team cubes table.
Anyone else care to give me money?
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AllDay420
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: stevo]
#23888265 - 12/02/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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stevo said: These are growing on a balcony. You would think that would change the look away from the look a mushroom growing from the ground, or even a pot on the ground would have as its now in a differnt world. Up high like that, the temperature and humidity patterns are different. I'd expect ovoids to be very big and massive like that when growing in such a deep substrate. And I can only assume there was some attempt to make sure only ovoids grow in there, combined with some pampering, like just being in a flower pot for one. Maybe they are looking wierd because they are "home sick". All I was saying here, is the "cube" colored pins arent too unusual, and huge fruits like that are kind of what I'd expect to see coming out of a pot like that.
Are ya'll hearing this?

You have exceptional knowledge stevo. Different microclimate = different phenotype am I right?
Also about a deeper substrate throwing larger fruits... I never knew that! Gold. Pure gold.
Do you care to supply more evidence of a deeper substrate producing larger fruits, stevo? Please explain in more depth why a deeper substrate throws larger fruits, pun intended.
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Joust
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: AllDay420]
#23888438 - 12/02/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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AllDay420 said: You love being wrong? Well let me tell you, you are most definitely wrong, Joust.
They are some thick ass gnarly P. ovoideocystidiata that look superficially like cubes to some of you for some reason, just because of the thick stipes? Come on... Who said ovoids can't throw thick ass stipes? Not just cubes have the ability to throw monster stipes.
Let's go over the facts.. 1) Came from an ovoid print, and was Specops' first print and he had nothing else at the time. Ovoid spores germinated = ovoid myc. 2) Cultivated with substrate that is suitable for a WOODLOVER like ovoids are, well put all of that shit together and they are without doubt ovoids.
Go ahead, check the spores, they are ovoids. Don't need a scope to tell ya that. 
 
I mean you are right, you would think I would consider all those things and see that they are indeed ovoids, but something seems off. Im excited either way, cuz the collection itself is badass as anything and Im excited to be apart of it.
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Specops2594 said: That came off a little edgy don't you think? I must admit though, I was a little annoyed with the lack of recognition for what I had done and the assumption of my incompetence, being all the time I had put into this project. But I greattly appreciate and respect trusted identifiers input as their knowledge of mycology is vastly greater than mine. I know a lot of them have gone to school And been educated on the subject
Im sorry if you are annoyed with my responses, Its incredibly impressive you have grown some sexy Psilocybe species for us all to nerd out over!!! I like playing devils advocate and so many times when I trade spore prints, I end up getting cubes and not the species that was talked about. However this has never happened to me with another shroomerite, just the facebook, and instabastards. Thats mostly why I stopped trading..
Thats some underlying shit right there^^^^
I dont know if betting is a terribly good idea
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Headrush


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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Joust]
#23888691 - 12/02/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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looks like ovoids to me. Crooked annulus is signature characteristic with ovoids, right?
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TheDuder
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Headrush]
#23888810 - 12/02/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Im with Allday420 on this, those are some big funky looking OVOIDS in my opinion
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: TheDuder] 1
#23888891 - 12/02/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm just enjoying how passionate people are getting about this.
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Mushrello



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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Ran-D]
#23889023 - 12/02/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Still lookin like ovoids to me ... those stems are trunks!!
ovoids have a really thick stems.. the kind you can't just snip with ur nails like you can with cyans I use the kitchen scissors
his superb selection + the substrate and also the location of the gro = 
Great job
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AllDay420
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: TheDuder]
#23889078 - 12/02/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm having a laugh about the cash betting, I don't want no money.
Let's bet sporeprints over the cube vs ovoid debate. Whoever is keen, I could make a journal thread about it.
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Specops2594
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: AllDay420]
#23889174 - 12/02/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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There is one point I would like to add that I feel is the nail in the coffin. As I posted earlier, the pot that has the suspected ovoideocystidiata "cubensis" had started pinning in the spring after full colonization, but the primordia did not reach maturity as there was no casing (pins dried out). I applied a casing in June but the same pot did not pin again all summer long even though I watered once a week. The same pot did not pin again until October when the temperature dropped and remained in the 45-60*f range. Now, if these mushrooms were cubensis (a tropical species), and had already started to pin after full colonization, wouldn't the same pot fruit over the summer when the temperature was warmer. Another point, it has been proven that a drop in temperature is not a pinning trigger for cubensis, which is why cold shocking is no benefit to cakes and tubs in cultivation. Since % of substrate colonized and amount of water the substrate received had not changed, as well as the top of the pot being cased in potting soil providing a good microclimate for pins throughout the summer, I would say the only major variable that had changed was temperature. A drop in temperature however, is a pinning trigger for woodloving psilocybes.
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DavidReishi
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Specops2594]
#23889193 - 12/02/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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-------------------- Species found in the Bay area: P. allenii, P. cyanescens, P. ovoideocystidiata, P. stuntzii, P. azurescens
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stevo

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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata *DELETED* [Re: DavidReishi]
#23889225 - 12/02/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sirtalis



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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: stevo]
#23889387 - 12/02/16 11:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I thought some cubes fruit twice a year?
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Hamra
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Sirtalis]
#23890858 - 12/03/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If they're growing off woodchips they are not cubensis... Different growing circumstances can cause mutations. For example, i once found two clusters of cyans growing in dark brown beauty bark mulch under juniper (far from optimal environment). Something about the conditions had caused these clusters of upwards of 50 fruits apiece to grow so densely that most of the caps and many stems had merged into a solid mass. There are morphological standards, but there are also sometimes unusual exceptions...
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Hamra]
#23890979 - 12/03/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Joust
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ambc
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Specops2594]
#23891442 - 12/03/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Specops2594 said: Another point, it has been proven that a drop in temperature is not a pinning trigger for cubensis,....
Really???
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