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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: DavidReishi]
#23886308 - 12/01/16 11:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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 Maybe they are some weird fucking hybrid. OP can you post some more pictures of mature fruits after the veil breaks and the spore start dropping, not like top down pictures but from all angles? What are they growing it?
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Specops2594
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maynardjameskeenan said:
 Maybe they are some weird fucking hybrid. OP can you post some more pictures of mature fruits after the veil breaks and the spore start dropping, not like top down pictures but from all angles? What are they growing it?
Sure thing! It's a little too dark now but I will grab some first thing tomorrow. The mushrooms are growing in 2-3 parts sterilized alder pellets/aspen pet bedding shavings and 1 part potting soil (I switched up how much soil I was putting in it because I though it was too much soil at first). That substrate was left to colonize, which was spawned at the end of January, got fully colonized by march, and then cased in an inch of potting soil June or July, I cannot remember. The pot showed a few pins back in march but since it wasn't cased they never matured and dried out- https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23067757#23067757 The pot did not pin again until the end of October, when the temp dropped and stayed low, then warmed up briefly
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Specops2594]
#23886371 - 12/02/16 12:32 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Speckles
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Bozko]
#23886374 - 12/02/16 12:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Watchin this thread like
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Sirtalis



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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Speckles]
#23886442 - 12/02/16 01:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd go with cubensis also. Those stems are HUGE. Did Alan use only one cubensis haplotype for his study? Seems like he should have taken multiple cubensis haplotypes to create his phylogenetic tree.
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Sirtalis] 1
#23886445 - 12/02/16 01:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would bet 10:1 that those are some weird cubensis (probably due to their substrate)
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AllDay420
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How can mycelium from an OVOID sporeprint produce cubes.
They are P. ovoideocystidiata.
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: AllDay420] 1
#23886468 - 12/02/16 01:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Maybe the sporeprint wasn't labeled correctly? Happens all the time. Also, since they are closely related on Alan's phylogenetic tree, it would be easy to mix the two up. Hence this thread.
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Specops2594
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Sirtalis]
#23886472 - 12/02/16 01:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I talked to the guy who sent me the print and he said there was no way he mixed up the spores. Also at the time of inoculating I did not have any cubensis spores. In fact the ovoid print was the only spores I had
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Specops2594]
#23886474 - 12/02/16 02:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: AllDay420]
#23886487 - 12/02/16 02:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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He cultivates cubensis (see signature avatar) contamination happens all the time in cultivation. OP did you use the same equipment to cultivate both cubensis and ovoids?
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Specops2594
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Yeah. I cultivated cubensis over the summer. I started the ovoids last winter. I had all new gear at the time of cultivating the ovoids because I had just moved into a new place
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata *DELETED* [Re: Joust]
#23886657 - 12/02/16 05:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: stevo]
#23886998 - 12/02/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Back in 06 mustardman found a mulch patch with fruits way larger than that. Caps were bigger than my hand and stems were huge. Check out his gallery.
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Specops2594
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It's hard for me to get a good underside shot because of the rim of the pot but I did my best. I even got a closeup of the whispy partial veil.
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Specops2594]
#23887014 - 12/02/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Who gave you the ovoid print. Cuz it was a cube print I think . Send me some to micro or have someone do it. I'm open to thoughts but I think you all would be surprised. Maybe I would. I'm interested. What is the substrate they are growing from? As far as genetics go, that is usually based on DNA which does not code for anything. We can't look at those phylogenetics and say they mean stuff about the macro characteristics of the species. Since the species can't mate it also throws out the hybrid theory.
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Specops2594
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Joust]
#23887025 - 12/02/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Joust said: Who gave you the ovoid print. Cuz it was a cube print I think . Send me some to micro or have someone do it.

I provided some detail on what they were growing on a few posts above
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Specops2594]
#23887109 - 12/02/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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IMHO those are not cubes
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: guyute22]
#23887195 - 12/02/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Those look to me 100% like P. Ovoideocystidiata, those are showing a very strange phenotype but they are for sure ovoids. There is white on the caps due to a lack of a perfect climate although they seem to look great. The large ones may not be butes but they look pretty awesome to me!! Great job man.
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Re: Massive pnw ovoideocystidiata [Re: Colonel]
#23887212 - 12/02/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The white fluff on the caps look to be mycelium, which is caused by lack of perfect environment. I experimented with indoor cyans and had that same result. Try not to overthink it man.
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