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OfflineKlimoserous
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I need help with a dose
    #23860333 - 11/23/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Okay so basically I am a big guy, I am not going to lie about that. And I think its really affecting how much shrooms I need to get a decent trip.

I have tried 2.5g, 5g, 5g with lemon tek and 7g. Even at 7g all I saw was breathing walls etc.

I heard a lot of people having amazing experiences which are very enlightening. Having all kinds of awesome experiences.

The most I get is some breathing walls, a warm fuzzy feeling, some cool visuals etc. But nothing like what is described by other users!

I am thinking I might just up strait to 12g next time to see if I get anywhere further. I have the perfect set and setting, I feel very safe. I honestly have no idea how I take this to the next level.

Any ideas would be really helpful! Thanks


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: Klimoserous]
    #23860341 - 11/23/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Are you on any prescription drugs?

Have you tried not taking them via lemon tek/tea?  I found that I get much more out of just eating them whole, you know weighing out a dried dose, then powdering in a coffee grinder, and toss and wash that shit down.

Also the shrooms you might have might not be so great, I have tried peoples grows in the past which weren't that good, all I got was a coming up feeling but no visuals, then I have had homegrowns which were wonderful.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: Klimoserous]
    #23860348 - 11/23/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

From my experience with shrooms, the trip is more in your head then out in the open. Closed eye visuals more than open. Low lights and trippy music like Pink Floyd or that genre tend to intensify it.

Are you on any meds? Some of them will kill your trip or cause it to take a lot more shrooms to get there.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: thebug76]
    #23860360 - 11/23/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I am not on any medication. I have tried Lights on, Low lights and Lights off with the same result. I grow my own shrooms, I have b+.

I did toss it and wash it when I tried lemon tek. I actually used orange juice, Just mixed it with 5g powdered shrooms. Waited like 30 mins then took it.

I found that 7g dried was the most powerful so far. I don't find lemon tek works that well for me.

Thanks for the suggestions. I think next time I am going to try 12g made into a tea with a few drops of lemon and some ginger.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: Klimoserous]
    #23860364 - 11/23/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If you do any other drugs, I would stay away from downers like xanax and such.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: thebug76]
    #23860427 - 11/23/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have a book that has an equation based on your weight got tripping, as us bigger guys need more than small women. lol Sorry

So it has a chart for various species of Psilocybe. with 3 different does levels for each.

Cubensis lvl 1 use 0.0125  lvl 2 use 0.03  lvl 3 use 0.06

Equation goes like

your weight divided by 2.2 lb/kg. Then when you have this you (kg) then take that times the level you want.

So I am 240lb / 2.2 = 109.1 Then for me level 3(gona see shit!) SO 109.1 times 0.06 and I get 6.5g. NOW I know that I can usually get good visuals off 3.5 -4g based on my size.

Give this a try and see how much it says you should take for a lvl 3.

It could be you have a natural tolerance, also do not take to often or tolerance builds. If not then it has to be the shrooms you grew. I have heard that different substrates can affect the potency. I am not sure if this has ever been proven.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: Lucis]
    #23860435 - 11/23/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Also the shrooms you might have might not be so great, I have tried peoples grows in the past which weren't that good, all I got was a coming up feeling but no visuals, then I have had homegrowns which were wonderful.




^this exactly, and to add to what Fennario said, even if you did everything perfect, there is still a chance you have low active producing genetics, b+ are pretty notorious for such occurrences.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: concretelush]
    #23860897 - 11/23/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for all the tips. I will try that equation and also thanks for the info on the strains concretelush! I plan to grow a different species next time. I am a huge fan of serious tripping so any recommendations on species?


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: Klimoserous]
    #23861448 - 11/23/16 05:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Oh I would also like to add that I am fully aware of tolerances. I wait a full 2 weeks or more between trips.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: Klimoserous]
    #23861495 - 11/23/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The shrooms you're getting are probably old and oxidized, I doubt your weight would influence your experience that much unless you are in excess of 200kg or near there.

If 7g doesn't get you tripping to the extent one would expect than it's probably not you but your shrooms.

12g is too much in my opinion, I've have plenty of psychedelic experience and the most I was happy to manage was 9g.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: sudly]
    #23861874 - 11/23/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't see how they are old and oxidised? I grow them myself and they are cracker dry within 2 days of picking them then stored airtight with silica gel.
All my shrooms are at maximum 2 month old and the ones I have been tripping on recently are just a few weeks old.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: Klimoserous]
    #23861889 - 11/23/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Damn dude you must have some mass to you or you have a high tolerance because you trip more than once a fortnight?

Dunno what else it could be other than a weak strain?


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: Klimoserous]
    #23861896 - 11/23/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How are you drying them? I only ask because you say they are cracker dry within 2 days. When you use a dehydrator, your fruits are dry within 6-12 hours, depending on mass.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: HamHead]
    #23861958 - 11/23/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Tolerance builds, so unless you waited 2 weeks between each dose you suffered tolerance issues. If you waited two weeks or more in between your doses then i'd say they are just weak. Tolerance is real.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #23862335 - 11/24/16 12:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Instead of taking 7g cubensis take 7g Cyanescens  :whatthetrek:


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: west coast hunt]
    #23862496 - 11/24/16 03:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Try fasting for 8 hours before taking the dose. Also, soak mushroom powder in lemon juice for 20 minutes, then make tea.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: Klimoserous]
    #23867305 - 11/25/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

yeah that definitely has nothing to do with your body weight.
5 - 7 grams of decent shrooms will fuck ANYONE up.

Seems you either just got weak shrooms or you have a unnaturally high tolerance to them for no apparent reason. I would suspect it was the former though.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23867748 - 11/26/16 01:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Just eat until your full.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: Klimoserous] * 1
    #23867834 - 11/26/16 03:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Klimoserous said:
I have b+.






Checkmate.

Grab better shrooms. Golden Teachers, Penis envy or even good ol' mexican. Always better than B+.

Here they are grown to be sold as a milder trip and good for beginners or outdoors.

Golden teachers will take you down the rabbit hole far, but they will be harsher in showing what you NEED to see and experience, but this is the purpose of a good psychedelic, right? :smile:

Good luck!


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Just eat until your full.




With the first bite you can be full already if you eat them whole haha. Gotta push them down till your whole dosage is in. But my wife now makes chocolates with powdered shrooms, much better to eat and as powerful trips (or more) :laugh:


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #23867930 - 11/26/16 05:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Definitely grow a different strain.  Start small with the new strain when it is ready.  While 7g might be nothing with the strain you have now, it can completely shatter your reality on a good strain :lol: golden teachers, Hawaiian, Columbian rust, treasure cost, penis envy are all decent.  I've heard about B+ being common for bunk batches


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: Zymosis]
    #23867990 - 11/26/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

B+ have given me some of the most potant shrooms I've ever had. My first B+ grow was more potant than moste PE. I've grown some week B+ too. I've also had weak Cambo, Lizard king and John Allen. The variety doesn't matter. You could just have week genetics on this grow. It's also posible your tolerance is high. Or maybe your expectations are. You said you got visuals so you are tripping to some extent.
Really though just eat more. Way more. If you want a life changing trip. Don't even way them just mow down until you can't eat anymore. There's no such thing as too much. I routinely eat way more than an ounce of verry potant shrooms. Let me tell you. A high dose trips is a completely different experience from dicking around with a few grams. It's much more rewarding and actually pretty relaxing.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: MudaFuka]
    #23868270 - 11/26/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I grew b+ once and they were all weak. I'm not a fan of that stain. Get you some different ones. Or eat more. I say do 10g. If they are that weak it shouldn't be too much.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: DrEarnhardt]
    #23868291 - 11/26/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Your size and weight has zero to do with how hard you trip no matter what size the dose you take. I have a buddy that is at leat 325-350# and trips balls off an 1/8. Mind set and setting are huge factors, but if the booms are weak then nothing else matters...


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: DrEarnhardt]
    #23869939 - 11/26/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I grew b+ once and they were all weak. I'm not a fan of that stain. Get you some different ones. Or eat more. I say do 10g. If they are that weak it shouldn't be too much.




I find even high doses of weak shrooms to pale in comparison to the real stuff.


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Re: I need help with a dose [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23870000 - 11/26/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I grew some Cambodians and they are just very weak. Three people have tried them including myself and just basic wall breathing face morphing on 5 grams from the first flush. I'm lemon tekking 3 grams tonight from the second flush. I'm a big dude to but 5 grams is 5 grams. It's not alcohol lol.


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