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I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but...
#23860152 - 11/23/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Man I had just a half gram yesterday of some nice shroomies and son let me tell you hwhut It was awesome!
Sure, the visuals weren't pronounced, but they didn't need to be. I got a great trip out of it. Anyone else like low dose shroomies?
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wicca mixer
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: ModestMouse]
#23860167 - 11/23/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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For me low doses or even medium doses are disappointing, although medium doses with syrian rue or turmeric and black pepper can be pretty cool.
I prefer to feel a little out of my depth when I do mushies than to be teased by a small dose.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: wicca mixer]
#23860186 - 11/23/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like smaller doses from time to time.. Usually when I plan on being around people who aren't dosing.
There is a 100% chance I would be taking in copious amounts of THC at the same time though.
Also, a half gram isn't much.. I'm thinking more a gram to two grams or so.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: egobrain]
#23860234 - 11/23/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I eat half-eights when I use cubensis, which is very rare anymore. I'll eat .7-.8 a gram of cyanescens or about .5-.6 of azurescens typically.
The first time I did azurescens I thought they were about as strong as cubes and did 3 grams. Never again lol
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Bozko]
#23860270 - 11/23/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was talking about cubes in my post. Never had Cyanescens or Azurescens.
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ModestMouse
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: egobrain]
#23860277 - 11/23/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think mine were Azures
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: wicca mixer] 1
#23860322 - 11/23/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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wicca mixer said: For me low doses or even medium doses are disappointing.
My thoughts exactly. I like to go heavy. I just don't feel like I really got what I wanted otherwise.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: thebug76] 1
#23860330 - 11/23/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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wicca mixer said: For me low doses or even medium doses are disappointing.
My thoughts exactly. I like to go heavy. I just don't feel like I really got what I wanted otherwise.
Same. Low doses aren't worth it in my opinion. The intensity level isn't there for me. I could see why someone would like them, though.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Kinshino] 1
#23860337 - 11/23/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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wicca mixer said: For me low doses or even medium doses are disappointing.
My thoughts exactly. I like to go heavy. I just don't feel like I really got what I wanted otherwise.
Same. Low doses aren't worth it in my opinion. The intensity level isn't there for me. I could see why someone would like them, though.
Combined with dabs of shatter, a low dose can be quite enjoyable for me.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: ModestMouse]
#23860357 - 11/23/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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When I used to pick shrooms, around November there would be lots of aborts, I figured it was the low temps. Anyway, a low dose of aborts was amazing, such an electric feeling, felt very speedy compared to larger doses or mature fruit bodies.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Lucis]
#23860434 - 11/23/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Half a gram azures is about half an eight ob cubes I'd say. 
I like 1.5g doses (cubes) while beeing amongst people or walking through town for an hour or two.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Lucis]
#23860437 - 11/23/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I did 2 gram night before last. It was fun, but about 2 hours in I found myself wishing I had eaten more:(
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#23860503 - 11/23/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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low doses make me feel kinda uncomfortable, def more likely to cause anxiety for me.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: LeeHarvOz] 1
#23860663 - 11/23/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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No need to dose high, instead I use the low dose as a platform for blastoff. I can get to the same places 5g will take me with 2 grams and meditation
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Eclipse3130] 1
#23860701 - 11/23/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ate an eighth of liberty caps last night and had such an amazing experience. Just ate them all at once. I find low doses of mushrooms can be very disappointing. 3.5 of libs is a perfect amount for me, or around 5 gs to 1/4 oz of cubes. Not sure what strain "BC Blue Caps" are but I would eat 5 gs of those and get to a very good spot. Used to be around all the time but havent seen any in years.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: SonicTitan] 1
#23860797 - 11/23/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't like doing less than 2 grams of cubes. 2-3.5g is usually my go to dose for a good time. More for an intense time.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: ShadeOfDeepPurple]
#23860865 - 11/23/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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A persons weight goes into play. A 120lb person only going to need half as much as a 240lb person.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: TheMadHatter420] 2
#23860880 - 11/23/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thats false
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: ModestMouse] 1
#23860886 - 11/23/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: Thats false
What he said. Not how psychedelics work.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: LeeHarvOz]
#23860972 - 11/23/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't like the feeling of not being sure if I'm tripping or feeling effects. I've done some micro doses with psilocybin but much prefer an actual trip.
I did notice I was much more open to the people around me, which may have thrown people for a loop as I'm usually very quiet.
I feel once you're more familiar with high doses, low doses just aren't as appeasing, IMO.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: HamHead]
#23860986 - 11/23/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I really love small doses -- in fact they're my preference! I usually dose around 0.5 - 0.8g of P. subaeruginosa myself, although those are significantly more potent than cubes, or so I'm told. I find those doses have enough effects and visuals to be really enjoyable without crossing into mindfuck territory, or having intense come-ups.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Matai]
#23861185 - 11/23/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like the head trip with mushrooms. I find its just as important as the visual aspect of the trip, if not more important. If I just wanted pretty visuals with little to no mind fuck I would do 2cb or 2ce.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: SonicTitan]
#23861205 - 11/23/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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SonicTitan said: I like the head trip with mushrooms. I find its just as important as the visual aspect of the trip, if not more important. If I just wanted pretty visuals with little to no mind fuck I would do 2cb or 2ce.
That's why I prefer 2C-B to most psychedelics. More clear headed. Also bright visuals and intense euphoria.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: ShadeOfDeepPurple]
#23861262 - 11/23/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think it depends. I certainly like the altered thought processes that mushrooms bring on, and other aspects of the head trip, but I really dislike the 'fuck' part of 'mindfuck' -- the intense confusion and bewilderment that I (at least personally) sometimes get.
On occasion I've been so confused and amnesiac that I've forgotten that I've taken mushrooms entirely, and that's pretty scary, because I have no clue what the fuck is going on or why I feel so strange.
Sounds like I'd really like 2C-B/E, though. Pity that I have no idea how/where to get it.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Matai]
#23863513 - 11/24/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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On occasion I've been so confused and amnesiac that I've forgotten that I've taken mushrooms entirely, and that's pretty scary, because I have no clue what the fuck is going on or why I feel so strange.
All the fucking time... stupid brain...
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Tiamo]
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: ModestMouse]
#23863961 - 11/24/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The rabbit hole effect may be the culprit here.
The rabbit hole effect is a phenomenon that is observed usually with these orally active tryptamines like ayahuasca and mushrooms. It basically means no matter what dose a person takes they can sometimes spontaneously have this strange effect where they are able to travel to higher levels of the psychedelic experience even if the dose is small. For example taking just 1 gram of shrooms but achieving a level 3 or 4 psychedelic experience, at least during the peak.
Same thing happened on my last mushroom trip. Only took 0.9 grams and I went to a primordial, cavernous circus realm where time didn't even exist. Listened to Sketches of Spain by Miles Davis, it was awesome.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: ModestMouse]
#23863983 - 11/24/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I prefer high dose over low or medium dose. I'm always left feeling like I wanted more out of the experience if I dose low or medium, but that's never how I feel when I dose high.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: nooneman]
#23863999 - 11/24/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just hate half eighth (1.75 gram) doses. That's the worst dose imo.
Too trippy and attention grabbing to be seen as casual yet too weak to be seen as truly impressive and profound.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: nooneman]
#23864023 - 11/24/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just ate 10 grams of some pe blobs about 20ish minutes ago and uh, starting to feel pretty good so this will be my last post for the night lol.
Small doses are fun when you have never experienced being completely torn from reality with high doses. But just a word to those who haven't gone beyond the normal 1/8th. Enjoy it until you want more, don't go taking quads and halfs because it sounds amazing (it is). But enjoy this small small doses while you can because once you go big, those small doses won't even feel the same as they did before.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: PinPornProducer]
#23864100 - 11/24/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just hate half eighth (1.75 gram) doses. That's the worst dose imo.
Too trippy and attention grabbing to be seen as casual yet too weak to be seen as truly impressive and profound.
Personally I think the problem with low doses is that your ego can fight back, and ur stuck in this intermediate state between thinking in your altered and normal mindset.
I used to never understand this until I took like 80ug of acid and was sort of stuck in that in between land
never happened to me on shrooms, weed or mescallin rarely took less than 2g of shrooms(cubes) rarely smoke less than a half gram
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Bozko]
#23864320 - 11/24/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bozko said: I eat half-eights when I use cubensis, which is very rare anymore. I'll eat .7-.8 a gram of cyanescens or about .5-.6 of azurescens typically. u
The first time I did azurescens I thought they were about as strong as cubes and did 3 grams. Never again lol
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: ak47myth] 1
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Bozko said: I eat half-eights when I use cubensis, which is very rare anymore. I'll eat .7-.8 a gram of cyanescens or about .5-.6 of azurescens typically. u
The first time I did azurescens I thought they were about as strong as cubes and did 3 grams. Never again lol
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That's a Tardigrade in his sig. They're microscopic and can survive in the vacuum of space. I watched a special about them not too long ago.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: thebug76]
#23864745 - 11/24/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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They are amazing critters.
The gif is from the new Cosmos reboot.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: ModestMouse]
#23864764 - 11/24/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Microdosing shrooms is awesome.
I enjoy half a gram for partying and hiking and such. Nice and mellow but with a light deepness as well.
Gotta be strong shrooms to do half a gram thou.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Bozko]
#23864810 - 11/24/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bozko said: I eat half-eights when I use cubensis, which is very rare anymore. I'll eat .7-.8 a gram of cyanescens or about .5-.6 of azurescens typically.
The first time I did azurescens I thought they were about as strong as cubes and did 3 grams. Never again lol
Have you ever tried cambodginiensis? if so how would you say they compare to the potency of cubes and cyanescens?
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: LeeHarvOz]
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I like a "light mix" which is about 1 to 1.5g cubes and a metric ton of sativa dominant weed. The giggly high gets amplified and you ride this fine line back and forth from weed effects to shroom effects, especially when listening to great music.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: gornyhuy]
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ergoticmandala said: Personally I think the problem with low doses is that your ego can fight back, and ur stuck in this intermediate state between thinking in your altered and normal mindset.
I used to never understand this until I took like 80ug of acid and was sort of stuck in that in between land
never happened to me on shrooms, weed or mescallin rarely took less than 2g of shrooms(cubes) rarely smoke less than a half gram
Yea it's that too. You naturally resist it more because you have one foot in this reality and the other foot in another reality. You still have the ability to try and be "sober" so you unconsciously try to. I mean I understood this quite well after doing shrooms but there's a term called "the waiting room" which is something I have never gotten from shrooms but I pretty frequently get it from 100ug. It wasn't until LSD that I really understood
Didn't think it would be possible with weed lol.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Matai]
#23866827 - 11/25/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Matai said: I really love small doses -- in fact they're my preference! I usually dose around 0.5 - 0.8g of P. subaeruginosa myself, although those are significantly more potent than cubes, or so I'm told. I find those doses have enough effects and visuals to be really enjoyable without crossing into mindfuck territory, or having intense come-ups.
Gotta agree with Matai here. Being from nz, as well, I've had many trips with subs, and agree less is more. I never weighed my dose, always ate fresh, but 5 smaller mushrooms would give an amazing, profound headspace, nice visuals and a light, floaty body load. Heavier trips on subs are HEAVY, dark vibes and downright scary, but still fun. Agree with what you said about the mindfucky part too, bro. There's a point where it just gets out of hand haha.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Mordecount]
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Low doses have their place I guess but I find low dose trips uncomfortable for the moste part. I really prefer to totally lose myself in a trip. Anything less than an ounce just doesn't cut it for me.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Matai]
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Matai said: I really love small doses -- in fact they're my preference! I usually dose around 0.5 - 0.8g of P. subaeruginosa myself, although those are significantly more potent than cubes, or so I'm told. I find those doses have enough effects and visuals to be really enjoyable without crossing into mindfuck territory, or having intense come-ups.
My wife is the same. But that's like 1-2g of cubes. Not that low of a dose. Subs are strong dude. They're similar in potency to cyans, if not stronger, maybe more on the azurescens range. I know a lot of people that dose cyans in that range. I prefer 1-1.25g for social trips and 2g+ for introspective shamanic visions.
I would consider .3 or less a microdose. At .5 you're still going to have noticeable mental effects, if not outright visuals. Cube users throw those ridiculous 10g+ doses out there, but those who regularly use wild woodlovers know that 3+g of woodlovers is some serious shit.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: P.Zappatecorum] 5
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I always considered 3.5grams piddling. I understand taking low doses to tickle your mind a little, but even a 3.5gram dose is not what the mushroom experience has to offer. If you've never taken 5grams+ than you likely don't know what mushrooms can do, because there is a sort of threshold or breakpoint where the mushroom experience breaks off from typical psychedelia and enters realms where language fails and consciousness is truly ripped open to vastness, bliss, discovery, death and rebirth.
There is a reason McKenna suggested 5grams in silent darkness.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Tmethyl]
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: MudaFuka]
#23868248 - 11/26/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I used to keep it to 3.5 gr doses. But after a while I got bored with that. I started going to 5. Then I did 6. Then one day I went for 8. I loved it. I took a break after that. When I had more again a few months later I did 3.5. I was disappointed because I knew what it could be. And actually, up until that point I still hadn't tripped like I did many years ago when I was younger. I made a thread about the other day on here.
Anyway, last night I took 20. Now, I would consider that to actually be 10 to 12 because of tolerance from tripping a couple times this week, and some of the mushrooms were big ones that were weaker. But laat night was the trip I have been trying to achieve for a while. My world was a complete wreck of color. I don't think I'll be doing much less than 7 from now on.
I would like to get some wood lovers but I'm in Texas. I am going to a friends in Oregon in the spring though so I'm hoping we can find some. I would also like to grow panaeolus but I'm afraid of heating my closet to get to temp. I imagine the fucks flying over in helicopters with imfrared cameras.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Tmethyl]
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Tmethyl said: I always considered 3.5grams piddling. I understand taking low doses to tickle your mind a little, but even a 3.5gram dose is not what the mushroom experience has to offer. If you've never taken 5grams+ than you likely don't know what mushrooms can do, because there is a sort of threshold or breakpoint where the mushroom experience breaks off from typical psychedelia and enters realms where language fails and consciousness is truly ripped open to vastness, bliss, discovery, death and rebirth.
There is a reason McKenna suggested 5grams in silent darkness.
Piddle all you want but don't forget to take a real dose at least once. 
Yeah, I totally agree with this 100%. The real beauty and power of psychedelics only happens at higher doses.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: nooneman]
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Im in to it. Low doses are the way to go!
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: nooneman]
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Tmethyl said: I always considered 3.5grams piddling. I understand taking low doses to tickle your mind a little, but even a 3.5gram dose is not what the mushroom experience has to offer. If you've never taken 5grams+ than you likely don't know what mushrooms can do, because there is a sort of threshold or breakpoint where the mushroom experience breaks off from typical psychedelia and enters realms where language fails and consciousness is truly ripped open to vastness, bliss, discovery, death and rebirth. There is a reason McKenna suggested 5grams in silent darkness.
Piddle all you want but don't forget to take a real dose at least once. 
Yeah, I totally agree with this 100%. The real beauty and power of psychedelics only happens at higher doses.
Lying down in the dark with good music on I can easily get into the death/rebirth cycle, merging with the godhead on 2g of ovoids or cyans. Beyond that, visuals might be stronger but it's not noticeably greater. I've never pushed beyond 3g of woodlovers and have no interest in doing so.
I don't know what it would take to get to like a vaped DMT level breathrough but frankly I don't find that going that far is, at least for me, what the psychedelic experience is all about. Beyond the death/rebirth cycle and merging with the universal consciousness is a space of nothingness, merging with the void and losing all memory of the experience, it is non-being rather than all-being and interconnection to the universe, and at that level it really is neither pleasant nor inspiring or life changing, it is just a vast empty chasm of psychedelic noise.
My strongest DMT breakthroughs have left me in a state of minor derealization/depersonalization, depression and shock for months, whereas 2g cyans or ovoids show me visions of paradise, blow away my ego and allow me to merge with the universe, feel more connected to my family and humanity, give me spirit quest like visions that answer questions and conundrums that have been plaguing me. It is so therapeutic and soulful.
Low dose can be fun, giggles and wiggles etc, good sex, but yeah, they definitely make me feel kind of blue balled in terms of not giving me that ecstatic godlike ultimate love. But beyond that, I think you kind of have to hate life and want to escape it to keep chasing the breakthrough, therein lies madness, escapism and feels a lot more like drug abuse than therapy. That's just my tastes. 2g woodlovers is equivalent to my 4-5g cubensis trips, BTW.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
#23872801 - 11/27/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, tmethyl and I were refering to 3.5 cubensis. 3 grams of pan cyan or something is much stronger.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: nooneman]
#23872865 - 11/27/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Even 5 grams of verry potent shrooms like pans is only scratching the surface of what these things can do. You haven't experienced the full effect of mushrooms until you've taken more than an ounce in a dark room with your eyes closed.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
#23873215 - 11/27/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Really interesting to hear everyone's opinions, I'm digging this thread.
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Mordecount said: Heavier trips on subs are HEAVY, dark vibes and downright scary, but still fun. Agree with what you said about the mindfucky part too, bro. There's a point where it just gets out of hand haha.
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P.Zappatecorum said: I would consider .3 or less a microdose. At .5 you're still going to have noticeable mental effects, if not outright visuals. Cube users throw those ridiculous 10g+ doses out there, but those who regularly use wild woodlovers know that 3+g of woodlovers is some serious shit. 
I definitely agree with the above, woodlovers are not to be underestimated I definitely get outright visuals at 0.5g, although they're not overwhelming and the whole experience is very controllable. At 1g things start to get pretty intense, and while I have fun it's not uncommon for me to get a bit freaked out at that dosage. The highest I've gone to is 1.5 grams, and while that's been very fun on occasion, I haven't had the courage to revisit that dosage after I got my arse handed to me on that much 2 years ago.
I tell myself that one day I'll experience some of the things that very high doses have to offer, but for now I'm content to build my confidence with occasional forays into 1g-territory. I'm convinced that I've got many years of tripping ahead of me, so I don't feel too rushed.
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#23873387 - 11/27/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: Even 5 grams of verry potent shrooms like pans is only scratching the surface of what these things can do. You haven't experienced the full effect of mushrooms until you've taken more than an ounce in a dark room with your eyes closed.
How does it compare with a DMT breakthrough? If it's anything like that you can keep it. I don't need no 5+ hours of thinking in calculus and turning into a fractal.
I get that some people like the adventure of truly losing their mind and pushing the limits of how weird the psychedelic experience can be, but you can really go wrong that way and frankly I think it's a bit reckless to boast about it without going into detail and making some caveats for people that are inexperienced. 1oz of mushrooms is not for everybody and could easily induce a psychotic episode. Every year somebody on this board goes full psycho on a "heroic" dose and gets into serious trouble, and that's just the people who decided to write a report. Even by the end of his life, McKenna could not handle going deep anymore and regretted the whole "heroic" dose terminology but he had bragged about it too long to back all the way down. You dose too high too many times and it will take a psychological toll. I know too many burnouts.
Everybody has a dose at which they find there are diminishing returns and that the costs start to outweigh the pay-off, for me it's about 2g woodlovers or 5g cubes, for some it's 10g and for others its an ounce. I mean hell, I've heard of people that don't even get visuals until 10g. Sensitivities differ.
It is best to approach that point gradually rather than just jumping off into "epic" or "heroic" doses. It doesn't make you cooler or tougher to use drugs to excess. I find the older and more experienced I get the less I need to use, half of it is just training your mind to go to those places, the drugs are just a key to get you in the door.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
#23873438 - 11/27/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not boasting. I just get the impression that a lot of people fear taking high doses. I encourage them to try it. There really is nothing to be afraid of. Mushrooms don't bring anything to the table. Everything they show you was already in your head.
There are no bad trips. Some are verry difficult and painful but in the end they always teach me something about myself. If you look at mushrooms like a drug to feel good and have fun with, maybe you should stick to low doses. I look at them as psycho therapy. They help me face the hard truths about myself.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: ModestMouse]
#23873463 - 11/27/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Me man I like low doses I've done all My Mega dosing when I was young. Now in my late 30s I enjoy to start with 1/2 gram and take 1/2 gram maintenance doses throughout the night
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ModestMouse said: Man I had just a half gram yesterday of some nice shroomies and son let me tell you hwhut It was awesome!
Sure, the visuals weren't pronounced, but they didn't need to be. I got a great trip out of it. Anyone else like low dose shroomies?
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ModestMouse said: Man I had just a half gram yesterday of some nice shroomies and son let me tell you hwhut It was awesome!
Sure, the visuals weren't pronounced, but they didn't need to be. I got a great trip out of it. Anyone else like low dose shroomies?
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ModestMouse said: Man I had just a half gram yesterday of some nice shroomies and son let me tell you hwhut It was awesome!
Sure, the visuals weren't pronounced, but they didn't need to be. I got a great trip out of it. Anyone else like low dose shroomies?
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ModestMouse said: Man I had just a half gram yesterday of some nice shroomies and son let me tell you hwhut It was awesome!
Sure, the visuals weren't pronounced, but they didn't need to be. I got a great trip out of it. Anyone else like low dose shroomies?
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ModestMouse said: Man I had just a half gram yesterday of some nice shroomies and son let me tell you hwhut It was awesome!
Sure, the visuals weren't pronounced, but they didn't need to be. I got a great trip out of it. Anyone else like low dose shroomies?
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ModestMouse said: Man I had just a half gram yesterday of some nice shroomies and son let me tell you hwhut It was awesome!
Sure, the visuals weren't pronounced, but they didn't need to be. I got a great trip out of it. Anyone else like low dose shroomies?
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: MudaFuka] 2
#23873472 - 11/27/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: I'm not boasting. I just get the impression that a lot of people fear taking high doses. I encourage them to try it. There really is nothing to be afraid of. Mushrooms don't bring anything to the table. Everything they show you was already in your head.
There are no bad trips. Some are verry difficult and painful but in the end they always teach me something about myself. If you look at mushrooms like a drug to feel good and have fun with, maybe you should stick to low doses. I look at them as psycho therapy. They help me face the hard truths about myself.
You don't know the life situation of everyone reading this thread. For some, that could be very irresponsible advice. I've gone very deep with vaped DMT as the short action is more appealing for doses that intense and I've had reasonably strong mushroom trips, never had any issues. I have however, seen and read plenty of times things went wrong, and I know a few people who had some minor mental health problems who went too hard on drugs and had full mental breakdowns, they're now completely disabled with schizophrenia. People with a lot of emotional baggage, who are struggling with mental health issues etc. should NOT push the limits on psychedelic drugs. 
Also, maybe high mushroom doses are different, but I find that 2g cyans is plenty for a therepeutic, shamanic trip. Meditation is half of the art of tripping and you don't really need all that much to open the inner eye once you've learned to meditate. At the right dose I can be completely tripping balls and astral projecting one second then if something interrupts me I'm really not tripping all that hard and can deal with the situation with a level head. Super high doses will get you there with no effort, but there's also no way to come back and get centered. I've been whited out from DMT where I am literally blind from the visuals, no semblance of reality remains and the open and closed eye experiences are identical. I don't find much spirituality in that, there really isn't much spirit left at that point.
For me, there is the point of ego death, but then there is also the point of superego death, where you're really just white-out nothing. That's not in anyway enlightening or spiritual for me personally. I know some people love DMT for that place it takes you, but I'm not a fan. I'd say anybody that thinks they want to breakthrough on a long acting drug should try it on a short acting one first. 5-8 hours is a long time to regret a dosage.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
#23873507 - 11/27/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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True were all different. Some people can smoke pot and go about there day. One hoot and I can't leave my house.
Personally I like leaving my body behind and traveling through space and time. Some people might find that too jarring. It's been almoste 20 years since my first 20+ gram trip. Its so common place for me I forget how intense it might be for others.
Different strokes for different folks.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: MudaFuka]
#23873783 - 11/27/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like leaving my body too, I just don't like stripping away all conscious awareness and just having my brain be like a television tuned to a dead channel. Maybe your high mushroom doses aren't like that. I'm very sensitive to psychs so it may just be my personal brain chemistry , but I find you can leave earth on reasonable doses if you're in the dark and meditating. If I were 20 and single again living alone I'd probably try a monster dose but those days are way behind me and I know my sweet spot.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
#23873809 - 11/27/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haha. I waited till I was in my 30s with a wife and 2 kids to really get into mushrooms. I left all other drugs behind when I was in my 20s though.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: MudaFuka]
#23873866 - 11/27/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: Haha. I waited till I was in my 30s with a wife and 2 kids to really get into mushrooms. I left all other drugs behind when I was in my 20s though.
Nice, mushrooms found me after about a 6 year hiatus. I moved to an area where they grow wild and found about 20 pounds wet (2lb dry of p. ovoideocystidiata). I've been doing all kinds of drugs off and on since I was twelve. I slowed down a lot after 30 but still like to trip with my wife a couple times a year and have a few epic solo runs. Mostly having a real life with jobs, kids, family and friends makes having long intense trips hard. Maybe when I'm old and retired I'll try something like 10g cyans and see where that goes.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
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P.Zappatecorum said: How does it compare with a DMT breakthrough? If it's anything like that you can keep it. I don't need no 5+ hours of thinking in calculus and turning into a fractal.
I get that some people like the adventure of truly losing their mind and pushing the limits of how weird the psychedelic experience can be, but you can really go wrong that way and frankly I think it's a bit reckless to boast about it without going into detail and making some caveats for people that are inexperienced. 1oz of mushrooms is not for everybody and could easily induce a psychotic episode. Every year somebody on this board goes full psycho on a "heroic" dose and gets into serious trouble, and that's just the people who decided to write a report. Even by the end of his life, McKenna could not handle going deep anymore and regretted the whole "heroic" dose terminology but he had bragged about it too long to back all the way down. You dose too high too many times and it will take a psychological toll. I know too many burnouts.
Everybody has a dose at which they find there are diminishing returns and that the costs start to outweigh the pay-off, for me it's about 2g woodlovers or 5g cubes, for some it's 10g and for others its an ounce. I mean hell, I've heard of people that don't even get visuals until 10g. Sensitivities differ.
It is best to approach that point gradually rather than just jumping off into "epic" or "heroic" doses. It doesn't make you cooler or tougher to use drugs to excess. I find the older and more experienced I get the less I need to use, half of it is just training your mind to go to those places, the drugs are just a key to get you in the door.
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P.Zappatecorum said: You don't know the life situation of everyone reading this thread. For some, that could be very irresponsible advice. I've gone very deep with vaped DMT as the short action is more appealing for doses that intense and I've had reasonably strong mushroom trips, never had any issues. I have however, seen and read plenty of times things went wrong, and I know a few people who had some minor mental health problems who went too hard on drugs and had full mental breakdowns, they're now completely disabled with schizophrenia. People with a lot of emotional baggage, who are struggling with mental health issues etc. should NOT push the limits on psychedelic drugs. 
Also, maybe high mushroom doses are different, but I find that 2g cyans is plenty for a therepeutic, shamanic trip. Meditation is half of the art of tripping and you don't really need all that much to open the inner eye once you've learned to meditate. At the right dose I can be completely tripping balls and astral projecting one second then if something interrupts me I'm really not tripping all that hard and can deal with the situation with a level head. Super high doses will get you there with no effort, but there's also no way to come back and get centered. I've been whited out from DMT where I am literally blind from the visuals, no semblance of reality remains and the open and closed eye experiences are identical. I don't find much spirituality in that, there really isn't much spirit left at that point.
For me, there is the point of ego death, but then there is also the point of superego death, where you're really just white-out nothing. That's not in anyway enlightening or spiritual for me personally. I know some people love DMT for that place it takes you, but I'm not a fan. I'd say anybody that thinks they want to breakthrough on a long acting drug should try it on a short acting one first. 5-8 hours is a long time to regret a dosage.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Pandemoon]
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A very enlightening thread to read. Throughly enjoying it. Great job guys
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Not sure why but I'd rather smoke DMT and get the same experience that only lasts 7 minutes than one that goes on for hours. I mean if you was outside picking mushrooms 5g of dry would be what, 50g of fresh ones? You'd never be able to pick and eat all them! Just my 2 cents but I understand ultimately if it's proven harmless then go for it!
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: YeOlde]
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You can have an ego death experience simply through guided meditation. 5 grams + of mushrooms is overkill for the already spirituality minded. My main ego death was off 3.5g lemon tekked and I will never take more than that, some people will argue it's close to 5g intensity but in my case it was more than enough to die, go to heaven, experience nirvana be reborn and come back a new soul. I can ego death with 2 grams now, ego death is a mindstate, you don't need massive doses of psychedelics... I can do it with 2 grams.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
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Tmethyl said: I always considered 3.5grams piddling. I understand taking low doses to tickle your mind a little, but even a 3.5gram dose is not what the mushroom experience has to offer. If you've never taken 5grams+ than you likely don't know what mushrooms can do, because there is a sort of threshold or breakpoint where the mushroom experience breaks off from typical psychedelia and enters realms where language fails and consciousness is truly ripped open to vastness, bliss, discovery, death and rebirth. There is a reason McKenna suggested 5grams in silent darkness.
Piddle all you want but don't forget to take a real dose at least once. 
Yeah, I totally agree with this 100%. The real beauty and power of psychedelics only happens at higher doses.
Lying down in the dark with good music on I can easily get into the death/rebirth cycle, merging with the godhead on 2g of ovoids or cyans. Beyond that, visuals might be stronger but it's not noticeably greater. I've never pushed beyond 3g of woodlovers and have no interest in doing so.
I don't know what it would take to get to like a vaped DMT level breathrough but frankly I don't find that going that far is, at least for me, what the psychedelic experience is all about. Beyond the death/rebirth cycle and merging with the universal consciousness is a space of nothingness, merging with the void and losing all memory of the experience, it is non-being rather than all-being and interconnection to the universe, and at that level it really is neither pleasant nor inspiring or life changing, it is just a vast empty chasm of psychedelic noise.
My strongest DMT breakthroughs have left me in a state of minor derealization/depersonalization, depression and shock for months, whereas 2g cyans or ovoids show me visions of paradise, blow away my ego and allow me to merge with the universe, feel more connected to my family and humanity, give me spirit quest like visions that answer questions and conundrums that have been plaguing me. It is so therapeutic and soulful.
Low dose can be fun, giggles and wiggles etc, good sex, but yeah, they definitely make me feel kind of blue balled in terms of not giving me that ecstatic godlike ultimate love. But beyond that, I think you kind of have to hate life and want to escape it to keep chasing the breakthrough, therein lies madness, escapism and feels a lot more like drug abuse than therapy. That's just my tastes. 2g woodlovers is equivalent to my 4-5g cubensis trips, BTW.
Beautifully posted 
I feel the same in DMTs case, it's like being shot in the head vs being guided. One you are instantly dead, left confused and wondering how you got there, no insight, relaxation or anything. Too much intensity, too fast for any worthwhile of meaning. Vs oral dmt you are guided to your death, and it's usually very blissfully inducing or satisfying and bombarded in love to ease anxiety. Come back with 800x more insight and meaning. Dmt leaves you confused, concentrated reality is yet to be understood
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23874697 - 11/28/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The more I trip, the less weight I end up requiring.
That being said, set and setting is everything. I have had 2 gram trips take me farther than 5 gram trips (same batch). Just depends where my mind wants to go.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: GrandPoobah]
#23874704 - 11/28/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Indeed, I whole heartedly don't agree with taking massive doses, for some people that would almost be counter productive. Ego death is a mindstate, the only thing that high dose psychedelics do is forcefully put that mindstate upon you, psychedelics also teach you how to get there your self. You are the psychedelic. Start using your mind instead of drugs 
If you've learned anything from your trips, is that you can do it all your self, or with very minimal addition needed.
If you are continuously needing 5-7g to breakthrough you're not doing it right believe me there are people out there who can have similar experiences with just themselves and their mind, in my case 2g of common cubensis is enough for me to meditate and drift into an ego death state of dissolution
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23874824 - 11/28/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: Indeed, I whole heartedly don't agree with taking massive doses, for some people that would almost be counter productive. Ego death is a mindstate, the only thing that high dose psychedelics do is forcefully put that mindstate upon you, psychedelics also teach you how to get there your self. You are the psychedelic. Start using your mind instead of drugs 
If you've learned anything from your trips, is that you can do it all your self, or with very minimal addition needed.
If you are continuously needing 5-7g to breakthrough you're not doing it right believe me there are people out there who can have similar experiences with just themselves and their mind, in my case 2g of common cubensis is enough for me to meditate and drift into an ego death state of dissolution
So there's a Zen term "makyo" that is used to describe hallucinations and psychedelic states that arise in the course of very deep, advanced medidation. It literally means "ghost cave." In Zen they warn against these visions and the temptation to see them as some kind of "ultimate reality" or truth, they are regarded as suspect and just as illusory as the real world. So I guess from a Zen standpoint, a psychedelic trip is one long journey into the ghost cave.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: ModestMouse]
#23874873 - 11/28/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: Man I had just a half gram yesterday of some nice shroomies
I wouldn't even be remotely high from that dose, i'd just be enraged by the lack of effect. Wadding in the kiddie pool instead of swimming isn't for everyone, but that's as far as some people like to take it I guess.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
#23874980 - 11/28/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I find anything less than an eighth uncomfortable. Having just one foot in the door doesn't work for me.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
#23875006 - 11/28/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: Man I had just a half gram yesterday of some nice shroomies
I wouldn't even be remotely high from that dose, i'd just be enraged by the lack of effect. Wadding in the kiddie pool instead of swimming isn't for everyone, but that's as far as some people like to take it I guess.
Yeah, doses like that make me feel uncomfortable, jittery and like I have a low voltage current running through me, give me weird sensations like my teeth are vibrating and some dysphoria and depressive, negative thought patterns. It needs to be a true microdose where you feel nothing but a slight elevation in mood, or a dose sufficient to get me full blown tripping, otherwise it's like the worst of both worlds and being stuck in the middle of the threshold. I do know people for whom that's all they're willing to do. Different strokes.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
#23875047 - 11/28/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Low doses can be fun, but if I want good visuals and objects warping/morphing I go atleast an 8th. Sat night I did 4g via tea. 1st time I did tea, came on fast. Was a nice intense trip, lost time, world around me disolving away into the universe. It was great and I loved it.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: wicca mixer]
#23875054 - 11/28/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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wicca mixer said: For me low doses or even medium doses are disappointing, although medium doses with syrian rue or turmeric and black pepper can be pretty cool.
I prefer to feel a little out of my depth when I do mushies than to be teased by a small dose.
What does the Tumeric and Black Pepper do? Is it like an MAIO?
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: germanauslander]
#23876677 - 11/28/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mushroom doses are weird, low doses can be immersive on occasion but for most they cause a kind of spuddering almost good trip. I think that's why most use high doses, just because they're almost guaranteed what they're looking for or something new altogether. I love low and high doses.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: AstralAndrew]
#23880190 - 11/29/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mushrooms are like the thing that connects all psychedelic people.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: sunshine]
#23880213 - 11/29/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe i haven't yet gone deep enough. I know the jitters are real on low doses. Dose that evaporate at a point?
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: ModestMouse]
#23880235 - 11/29/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: Maybe i haven't yet gone deep enough. I know the jitters are real on low doses. Dose that evaporate at a point?
Everything evaporates at a point. Even your idea of yourself and the boundry between you and the ground.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: ModestMouse]
#23880793 - 11/30/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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ModestMouse said: Maybe i haven't yet gone deep enough. I know the jitters are real on low doses. Dose that evaporate at a point?
Yes it does for sure. I find if I take too low of an amount I feel "stuck" between the real world and where the mushrooms want to take me. Once you eat enough to move past that point it really becomes far less anxious and more of a natural feeling to it almost like how DMT has that "supposed to be happening" feeling to it. Its like you shed that part f your ego that is like "wait, what the fuck is happening to me!?" and just experience your trip. I find anything lower than 2gs to really have me in that "stuck" position, but depending on what I'm doing. If a few people are over and I'm talking and laughing a low dose can be nice and the setting can be enough to distract yourself from the weirdness on a low dose but higher doses may as well just be alone because 90% of the time I am just curled in a ball with blankets all over me haha.
I do admit hiking on low dose mushrooms is awesome. Still lucid enough to navigate and walk without becommign jello legs haha.
I'm getting an eighth of liberty caps today, may just eat them all or eat 1 - 1.5 g and go for a walk in the woods with the fresh snow on the ground.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: SonicTitan]
#23882580 - 11/30/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Guys..
Serious now..
Low doses of mushrooms can help you unlock the full potential of your mind if you use it in combination with meditation and hypnotic techniques. They can also help you learn to effectively meditate and suggest yourself.
Then imagine the possibilities.
Astral projection? We don't know if its REAL, but we do know people experience that kinda stuff. Communication with aliens? The full potential of your mind. Places you can now only dream about, but then awake.
And never, EVER have you laughed so hard and helplessly as on a hilarious social trip with your mates where you took just enough to enhance your emotions and THEN hit your funnybone.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: Asante]
#23882647 - 11/30/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can agree wit hthe laughter for sure as well as the social aspect of low doses of mushrooms. I have taken a lot of 1 - 2 g trips and always enjoyed them but when I am alone the lower doses really are not for me. Too much awkward feelings and still far too aware of whats happening. Its nice to have that company and be able to express and voice how you feel. Its all up to the individual and what they want out of their experiences in the end. Some are comfortable with any dose, some are specific. I can go either way but prefer to take a medium to high dose alone naked in my room wrapped in blankets haha.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: SonicTitan]
#23889946 - 12/03/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The more you do the types of things sober that you only do tripping such as leaving your body and other types of meditation and visualization like remote viewing, you will be more sensitive to psychedelics.. all in my experience obviously but I've understood this to be a somewhat general consensus.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: AstralAndrew]
#23889988 - 12/03/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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i tried to micro dose yesterday and ate .4 which was either way too much or the mushrooms i grew were really fucking strong because it made me trip. not full on tripping balls but it was def more than a "sub perceptual" dose. i was having CEV's, it made work a lot harder (at one point reconciling bank statements made me feel like and imagine i was a naval general commanding a battle against an enemy fleet), it also gave me a little anxiety and was sort of uncomfortable.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: LeeHarvOz]
#23890103 - 12/03/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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i was having CEV's, it made work a lot harder (at one point reconciling bank statements made me feel like and imagine i was a naval general commanding a battle against an enemy fleet), it also gave me a little anxiety and was sort of uncomfortable.
yeah i hate being sort of fucked up in public and you are just a little more self conscious about everything
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: ergoticmandala]
#23890161 - 12/03/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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luckily i work from home. if i worked in a public environment i would have went home.
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Re: I aint gonna say yall eating an eighth are doing it wrong, but... [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#23890482 - 12/03/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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TheMadHatter420 said: I did 2 gram night before last. It was fun, but about 2 hours in I found myself wishing I had eaten more:(
This is exactly what happens to me. First hour or two I'm just getting a feel happy chill feeling, but then I'm stuck ion a "on foot in, one foot out" phase wishing I had taken more to break through and feeling like I just wasted some of my shrooms.
I took 1.5g and felt a nice chill high, then was disappointed so halfway through the trip I doubled down and took another 1.5g. I'm new to shrooms since I normally stuck with LSD but that night I learned taking more halfway through the trip doesn't kick the trip up a notch, and instead I wasted even more.
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