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Possible shaggy parasol and something else
    #23859709 - 11/23/16 07:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Is this shaggy parasol? Looks very similar and the stem stains reddish brown but the gills arent white, they're a creamy colour
Found on dead leaves and woodchip in shaded area - saprotrophic
Reminents of veil on stipe
Stipe about 2inches long
No rings around stipe to suggest parasol mushroom
Spores not taken yet





Anyone know what this is? looks interesting



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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: Mattisfat]
    #23859716 - 11/23/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The first could be in Chlorophyllum.  If it was a shaggy mane, it would have inky black qills that turn to liquid.

The second one is in Xylaria


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #23859727 - 11/23/16 07:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Chlorophyllum rhacodes is nicknamed the shaggy parasol - its different from the shaggy main
I know some people it doesnt agree with but i think il try it and see how i am - loads of them were growing this autumn i just didnt try and ID them till now.


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: Mattisfat]
    #23859729 - 11/23/16 07:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Any TI's want to confirm as Chlorophyllum Rhacodes ?


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: Mattisfat]
    #23859736 - 11/23/16 07:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

OOPS, sorry.  I guess I read right over the parasol part.  Yes, Chlorophyllum - but which one? If no green spore print, then edible.  I'd say at this age, it's got a white print.  Did you have a photo of the complete mushroom?  The base of the stem and the manner of the ring would distinguish which of them you have. 

P.s.  Just because a person doesn't have a TI badge doesn't mean they weren't one before or can't be trusted.  Many of us have or had one and don't now for any number of reasons.

The shaggy parasol common name applies to C. rhachodes, C. brunneum, and C. olivieri (in the US).


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #23859739 - 11/23/16 07:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry i didnt mean to offend you - i just like to get second opinions for IDing
I havnt got a photo of the entire mushroom but il get a clearer one of the ring for you - going to start a print now aswell.


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: Mattisfat]
    #23859743 - 11/23/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not offended  :smile:
It's always good to have several confirmations.


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #23859755 - 11/23/16 07:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)





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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: Mattisfat]
    #23859780 - 11/23/16 08:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The gills look to have a darker edge (marginate), is that the case in person?


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #23859790 - 11/23/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah they have a creamy orangey colour turing to whiteish at the tip

Stupidly i tried to print on white paper and when ive went to change it there is orangey browny marks on the paper - not 100% sure if its spores but what could it be if they do come out that colour?


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: Mattisfat]
    #23859806 - 11/23/16 08:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The orange could be staining from the gills.  Orange/red spectrum staining is common among the Chlorophyllum and other lepiotoid type fungi.

Your specimen is old, are there more to collect?


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #23859817 - 11/23/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

There is a couple of pins but im sure they were a similar size last week so maybe they have aborted. There is older more disgusting looking specimens as well. Its a shame as there was loads of these a few weeks back.


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #23859824 - 11/23/16 08:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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RiverDweller1 said:
Many of us have or had one and don't now for any number of reasons.





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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: Ran-D]
    #23859831 - 11/23/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #23859833 - 11/23/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Did you opt out of having a badge or something?


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: Ran-D]
    #23859835 - 11/23/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I did


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #23859868 - 11/23/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Annnnnnyyyywayyy......actually I can remember the base was slightly bulbous. Does this clear anything up?


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #23859876 - 11/23/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

OP, perhaps you have Cholorphyllum olivieri.  This description lists that the gill edges can become brown-floccose.

(GILLS  free, 85-110 reach stem, broad, 3-7 subgills between each set of gills; white when young, then cream and spotting pink; edges "whitish when young, later brown-floccose", (Breitenbach), white, tinged reddish when older, bruising reddish, (Phillips), free, close, in two or three tiers; white becoming red or brown when bruised, darkening when old; edges finely fringed, (Sieger))

here is Vellinga's description as well
http://www.svims.ca/council/Chloro.htm


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #23860520 - 11/23/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

But why?


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: Ran-D]
    #23860775 - 11/23/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Many of us have or had one and don't now for any number of reasons.





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How did u lose your badge RiverDweller?


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23860847 - 11/23/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I did not lose it, I had Alan take it off.


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #23860863 - 11/23/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Looks like white spore print - not dropped many yet so will check again in morning


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Re: Possible shaggy parasol and something else [Re: Mattisfat]
    #23862558 - 11/24/16 04:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ok checked spores today and theyre definitely white


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