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OfflineRise against
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Psychedelic stigma
    #23853267 - 11/21/16 04:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

A few days ago I told a close friend that I use psychedelics for self exploration. I haven't herd from them since... Psychedelics have really helped me out but I feel like maybe I should talk about it. Can anyone relate? I wish it was more acceptable in our USA society. I'd like to spend time is South America where it is more acceptable. It's tough, we were close.

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Re: Psychedelic stigma [Re: Rise against]
    #23853272 - 11/21/16 04:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If it's only been a few days and you guys were close you definitely owe it to the friendship to give it a bit more time. It is unfortunate about the stigma that floats around psychs but you would hope that with time this friend could either see past the substance use if it bothered them that much or maybe look into them a bit and see how beneficial they can be.

Going forward, you may wish to gently gauge how a person feels about psychedelics before jumping in to a conversation like that.

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Re: Psychedelic stigma [Re: Rise against]
    #23853395 - 11/21/16 06:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I've grown mushrooms for years and have definitly had friends and lovers leave my life because of it. It's part of the illicit life.
There is no magic phrase to make someone understand, they have to find out for themselves. And there is a chance they'll never see differently.

But if your really good friend puts you down for using mushrooms for healing, I wouldn't count that as a good friend.

Guaranteed to find someone who shares your passions, keep searching


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Re: Psychedelic stigma [Re: Rise against]
    #23853684 - 11/21/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

People enjoy their lives of ignorance...  can't have you looking for places where new things might be found.

Dredging up what lies within the mind is a painful experience for many..

The world is very much filled with people who are not conscious and do not wish to be.

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Re: Psychedelic stigma [Re: Rise against]
    #23853990 - 11/21/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It really is a shame that so many people have had the whole anti drug thing drilled into their heads so hard that they wont try to look past any of it. It is very hard to undo a half century of drug propaganda


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Re: Psychedelic stigma [Re: ichugwindex]
    #23854019 - 11/21/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Pro tip, don't talk to people about psychedelics unless they bring them up. I'm all for people being able to express themselves and their interests freely, but psychedelics are a touchy subject for a lot of people because of the general population's perception of "drugs". Talking about your drug use to most people is only going to cause you problems and maybe isolate you.

I swear my generation is the most ignorant about drugs(except weed and molly :rolleyes:).

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Re: Psychedelic stigma [Re: ShadeOfDeepPurple]
    #23854191 - 11/21/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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ShadeOfDeepPurple said:
Pro tip, don't talk to people about psychedelics unless they bring them up. I'm all for people being able to express themselves and their interests freely, but psychedelics are a touchy subject for a lot of people because of the general population's perception of "drugs". Talking about your drug use to most people is only going to cause you problems and maybe isolate you.

I swear my generation is the most ignorant about drugs(except weed and molly :rolleyes:).



Good advice:whathesaid:....Op, if you want to meet people that are like minded, try the festival circuit...you may cultivate some new friends.:sunny::peace:


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Re: Psychedelic stigma [Re: ShadeOfDeepPurple]
    #23854201 - 11/21/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I've told lots of people about my drug use. Not as extensive as it is but definitely that I do shrooms and acid. If they're around my age I can't imagine caring they gave a shit even if they did. If their older though it's definitely more of a crap shoot. I'm 25 btw. Honestly the worst part about bringing up psychedelics is the assholes who start talking about unicorns and dragons and shit. Yeah okay maybe a super high high dose but fuck, most people will never see that kind of shit.

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Re: Psychedelic stigma [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23854351 - 11/21/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I blame hollywood for the the whole dragons and unicorns thing. I hate that it perpetuates the myth of "it makes you see shit thats not there" like people think they are gonna lose their shit and jump out a 7th story window when in reality they will most likely have a case of the giggles and get in touch with themselves.


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Only hope can give rise to the emotion we call despair. But it is nearly impossible for a man to try to live without hope, so I guess that leaves Man no choice but to walk around with despair as his companion.

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Re: Psychedelic stigma [Re: ichugwindex]
    #23854387 - 11/21/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

"Yeah, I heard about this guy who used LSD and now he thinks he's a glass of orange juice. He's stuck in the trip, maaan."

:huxleyfacepalm:

All in all, I only tell a very select few about my use of psychedelics.


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Re: Psychedelic stigma [Re: ichugwindex]
    #23854403 - 11/21/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm glad that I have got my dad and brother to talk to about these sorts of things. I've introduced my Asian girlfriend to the world of psychedelics but just don't feel the same connection that I feel to someone who's been through a blow out experience. I try and talk to the people around me, though the subject rarely comes up. I bring up some of my recent experiences to the fellows I know to travel, maybe to try and spark inspiration or something. They say things like, "wow 5 grams, that's a lot. How long does that last? I don't have time for that, I have kids."

It's tough to find people with high dose experiences.


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Re: Psychedelic stigma [Re: Satyr604] * 1
    #23854409 - 11/21/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yup.
The general population seems to be a hive mind of sorts, and most people seem to act like zombies, devoid of any rational thought or questioning, just going along with the flow of what they're told/fed, by the media, by their peers, etc.

Even some of the most intelligent people seem to fall into this pattern of behaviour (and it does seem like a natural human tribal type thing)

To see through social conditioning you really have to question everything, morality, religion, reality, etc...
Some people naturally do this,  most unfortunately do not.

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Re: Psychedelic stigma [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #23856396 - 11/22/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:tongue: In a world of willful self-repression and self-deception you just have to be true to your experience.  I rarely hesitate to bring it up when appropriate, no matter who, but you need a strong foundation, need to know when to back off or drop it, and it really helps if whoever you're talking to would NEVER have expected such talk to come from the "normal" person that you seem to be most of the time.  That's the thing that blows their minds and their preconceptions about psychedelics, IME.  :scaryshroom::thumbup:

tl;dr spread the love  :yinyangtrip:


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Re: Psychedelic stigma [Re: Rise against]
    #23856450 - 11/22/16 07:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Rise against said:
A few days ago I told a close friend that I use psychedelics for self exploration. I haven't herd from them since... Psychedelics have really helped me out but I feel like maybe I should talk about it. Can anyone relate? I wish it was more acceptable in our USA society. I'd like to spend time is South America where it is more acceptable. It's tough, we were close.





I basically lost one of my best friends when he found out i have smoked dmt because he thinks it has "toilet bowl cleaner" in it so he thinks im absolutely nuts for doing it.

i feel your pain OP...everyone around me has no idea about this stuff so when you bring it up they just use their limited knowledge to judge it. they go by what the media has taught them about it which is usually negative things.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Psychedelic stigma [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23856621 - 11/22/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
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Rise against said:
A few days ago I told a close friend that I use psychedelics for self exploration. I haven't herd from them since... Psychedelics have really helped me out but I feel like maybe I should talk about it. Can anyone relate? I wish it was more acceptable in our USA society. I'd like to spend time is South America where it is more acceptable. It's tough, we were close.





I basically lost one of my best friends when he found out i have smoked dmt because he thinks it has "toilet bowl cleaner" in it so he thinks im absolutely nuts for doing it.

i feel your pain OP...everyone around me has no idea about this stuff so when you bring it up they just use their limited knowledge to judge it. they go by what the media has taught them about it which is usually negative things.



Bill, I tell my friends about you and they say you're freaking crazy for injecting 4-aco-dmt and at such quantities. Maybe you need new friends.

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Re: Psychedelic stigma [Re: dixienormous]
    #23856700 - 11/22/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'd inject it LOL :crazy2:

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Re: Psychedelic stigma [Re: dixienormous]
    #23857619 - 11/22/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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dixienormous said:
Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
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Rise against said:
A few days ago I told a close friend that I use psychedelics for self exploration. I haven't herd from them since... Psychedelics have really helped me out but I feel like maybe I should talk about it. Can anyone relate? I wish it was more acceptable in our USA society. I'd like to spend time is South America where it is more acceptable. It's tough, we were close.





I basically lost one of my best friends when he found out i have smoked dmt because he thinks it has "toilet bowl cleaner" in it so he thinks im absolutely nuts for doing it.

i feel your pain OP...everyone around me has no idea about this stuff so when you bring it up they just use their limited knowledge to judge it. they go by what the media has taught them about it which is usually negative things.



Bill, I tell my friends about you and they say you're freaking crazy for injecting 4-aco-dmt and at such quantities. Maybe you need new friends.





I am not for injecting it at high quantities. It was anywhere from 10mg-40mg..probably closer to 20-25mg

It was a once in a lifetime thing that ill never do again. If i knew how high i was going to go i wouldnt have done it. I was just fucking around thinking i was going to trip a little and then BANG i died :lol:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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