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First proper cake grow, shroomers please help
    #23857593 - 11/22/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hi, I'm new here!

This september I started my first proper PF Tek rice flour cake grow with a syringe etc (Amazonian). Before I always used grow kits.

The mycelium took forever to grow. I prepared the glasses around the Middle of August this year, and birthed them around 3-4 weeks ago.
Now it again took forever until some shrooms came out. The first ones just came a few days ago.

It looks like this now:


My questions:
1. Is it normal that it takes so long until Shrooms arrive?
2. Is it normal that just so few mushrooms come out? When I used grow kits before they all came at the same time, and there came tons of them.
3. Are those dark spots contamination?

I didn't use perlite but paper towels, because I couldnt get any. I fanned and sprayed daily though.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: laslo]
    #23857696 - 11/22/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think the dark spots your referring to are the caps but idk what's going on there and yeah it takes for ever I spent 2 months getting 3 flushes out of my first mini mini.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23857714 - 11/22/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Glad you have fruits.
That being said, did you read and follow any proper teks?
What kind of fruiting chamber is that, and what are those cakes?
Start reading around here.
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23857751 - 11/22/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Jesus dude your cakes look like a popcorn ceiling. They need more air than you can provide by fanning, and paper towels are no substitute for perlite. They're probably taking so long to pin cuz they're choking to death in there.


Edited by Dactylium (11/22/16 03:30 PM)


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: Dactylium]
    #23857814 - 11/22/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Take some pics of your FC.
What tek did you use? It looks like there's no hole in it?


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: TheShroomster01]
    #23857872 - 11/22/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No dunk and roll? I'm glad to see you got a away from kits. Please do a search here for a proper PF tek procedure. That water sitting on the paper towels is bacteria breeding ground. If your gonna use paper towels I would suggest replacing them often and not letting water sit.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: PortabellaFella 1]
    #23857884 - 11/22/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Is any one else shocked he got fruits with no holes or perlite?

Heads up there's not much subsitition to this hobby and it's time to invest in a pc and start with agar then move it to a grain. I didn't like my cake experiences I use oats now and find that they are very nutrious


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23857907 - 11/22/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've seen shrooms with no perlite or holes......it's not  what we are all used to or what is taught as proper but :shrug:


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: PortabellaFella 1]
    #23857918 - 11/22/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah true if seen monos with no holes producing but if just tried to focus on what the TCs recommend. Could some one give him a link to the recommended teks from the amu thread I think it is? Not sure but I think he needs those if he wants to continue.

Stay patient bro if you can wait that long for pins and the fact that you have fruits means that you have potential in this hobby.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23858003 - 11/22/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

first proper cake grow?

what is proper about wet paper towels ? wut da faq bruh?


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23858048 - 11/22/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Is any one else shocked he got fruits with no holes or perlite?

Heads up there's not much subsitition to this hobby and it's time to invest in a pc and start with agar then move it to a grain. I didn't like my cake experiences I use oats now and find that they are very nutrious



Wrong
He should start at pf tek and move from there.
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23858190 - 11/22/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Is any one else shocked he got fruits with no holes or perlite?



No, look up neglect tek and you will see people growing inside jars invitro style. Many have "accidental" grows too with very poor conditions, no perlite, no holes, no light.

I have heard of paper towels used before, by Anno, a highly respected poster, now part of admin here.

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>Paper towels would not be suitable. They would be a
>contamination magnet and probably would not provide
>enough humidity.

In my experience moist paper towels on bottom of the fruiting container and cakes placed directly on them  work as well as a perlite layer. I?ve used them several times in the past with good results. 




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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: blackout]
    #23858204 - 11/22/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

pics clearly shows that half-assed FC doesnt work "as good" as a properly built sgfc with perlite.

growing mushrooms in poor conditions is like growing MJ under a 40w incandescent light bulb, you're only stealing from yourself.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: spacechildo]
    #23858235 - 11/22/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Definitely needs some hardcore FAE. Turn that FC into an SGFC and they'll be way happier.

Also, when you were colonizing, how much spore solution did you use?
Is that BRF/verm, or just BRF?
Did the cakes get dunked (soaked in water for 24 hours)?


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: mushboy]
    #23858368 - 11/22/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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first proper cake grow?

what is proper about wet paper towels ? wut da faq bruh?




:whathesaid:
Theres a lot of "I didn't follow a tek, what's wrong with my grow?" threads.

OP,  like the others have said, follow the pf tek and your results will be much better.  Good luck!



:wave:  Completed my first grow and enjoyed the fruits of my labor yesterday, decided it's time to start posting.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23859435 - 11/23/16 03:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks.

Don't be to hard on me, I'm just starting out. :grin:

I mainly followed two PF Tek videos on youtube. One of them said paper towels where alright if you don't have perlite.
If you use a grow kit you just put it in a plastic bag with water, without any holes and get quite good harvests. So I figured this would be alright for a start.

The growth chamber is just one of those transparent plastic boxes.


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Definitely needs some hardcore FAE. Turn that FC into an SGFC and they'll be way happier.

Also, when you were colonizing, how much spore solution did you use?
Is that BRF/verm, or just BRF?
Did the cakes get dunked (soaked in water for 24 hours)?




I'm new to the topic so I don't get all the abbreviations... what's FAE and SGFC? The others are obvious. It's brown rice flour + verm.
I didn't dunk and roll them unfortunately - the videos I followed didn't say anything about that.

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If you need good advice OP feel free to :pm: me
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Thanks mate, great offer, I'll definitely drop you a message right now.

So yeah what should I do guys?

Cheers.


Edited by laslo (11/23/16 04:03 AM)


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: laslo]
    #23859447 - 11/23/16 03:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Be weary about private lessons lol..better to just post your questions here n get a variety of opinions...nothing wrong with paper towel just change it out as needed.

Move those cakes closer together and good luck.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: cronicr]
    #23859495 - 11/23/16 04:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Be weary about private lessons lol..better to just post your questions here n get a variety of opinions...nothing wrong with paper towel just change it out as needed.

Move those cakes closer together and good luck.



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If you make your tub into a proper sgfc you can use gravel in place of perlite, you just need something with a lot of surface are... That standing water is asking for problems.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23859649 - 11/23/16 06:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I was just trying to be nice as dude does not know all of the abbreviations and what not Cron.
So many times we forget that not everyone has been on this site for years like many of us who lurk and have the free time to do hours upon even days of research before dipping our toes in bud :-)
I'm no pro on grains but I have put out a ton of cake grows :grin: and just want to pass on the wisdom that has been imparted upon me.

Laslo - FAE = Fresh air exchange
            SGFC = ShotGun Fruiting Chamber. (due to the holes that make it appear to have been                  blasted with a shotgun blast.
Best luck to ya laslo.  :cheers:
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23859690 - 11/23/16 07:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/9423/Mycological-and-OMC-abbreviations

no harm in helping people on the boards instead of pm's, dick.
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: spacechildo]
    #23859702 - 11/23/16 07:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ok
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23859958 - 11/23/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

A shotgun fruiting chamber is what you use to fruit something like a cake or a tray in a plastic tub. You've already got the tub, so what you need to do is drill some holes in it. Follow this Tek by SpitballJedi on sizing and orientation of the holes and it will get you where you need to be as far as your fruiting chamber goes.

Also, you can still dunk and roll those cakes after harvesting what's on them. The mushrooms that are growing on there now need a lot more fresh air, but they also are going to need a good amount of water. If you don't dunk and roll, I would at least look into "bottom watering."


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23860606 - 11/23/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I was just trying to be nice as dude does not know all of the abbreviations and what not Cron.
So many times we forget that not everyone has been on this site for years like many of us who lurk and have the free time to do hours upon even days of research before dipping our toes in bud :-)
I'm no pro on grains but I have put out a ton of cake grows :grin: and just want to pass on the wisdom that has been imparted upon me.

Laslo - FAE = Fresh air exchange
            SGFC = ShotGun Fruiting Chamber. (due to the holes that make it appear to have been                  blasted with a shotgun blast.
Best luck to ya laslo.  :cheers:
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: cronicr]
    #23860615 - 11/23/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:eskimokiss:


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23860780 - 11/23/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Looks pretty gnarly bro. I've used paper towels before in a pinch but there's way too much moisture in there. Also drill some holes, make a SGFC. Listen to the pros (not me)


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: spacechildo]
    #23861129 - 11/23/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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pics clearly shows that half-assed FC doesnt work "as good" as a properly built sgfc with perlite.




Yep, but he does not have a SGFC, my comments were addressing the posters making out like he was totally off the wall to be using paper towels, I am letting people know it was done before by experienced and respected growers, who had seemingly never heard of it before and were questioning/mocking it.

If he had perlite in his "unproper FC" it might have made little difference. Some, including myself, do not want to have a SGFC and so make do with what they have -many peoples situation is different, many on this forum point blank refuse to accept that for some odd reason, they see what works for themselves and think everyone should do the same or similar. And the reason people do not want to copy others is not all about teenagers growing on the sly, which some can only seem to come up with the reason why...

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spacechildo said:growing mushrooms in poor conditions is like growing MJ under a 40w incandescent light bulb, you're only stealing from yourself.



Have you any links to any 40W MJ incandescent grows with comparable results using known seeds in typical size plant pots and typical growth medium etc. I worry some might have read a bit about growing weed and been put off knowing fine well if all they have is a 40W incandescent bulb is pretty much worthless and would be lucky to manage to grow a single joints worth, and/or would have to smoke loads of it to even get a threshold dose.

Those same people reading your post and taking it literally might also think there is absolutely no point in trying to produce psilocybin in any form, be it shrooms or sclerotia, and so be totally put off any attempt of growing, thinking they would have to make a decent financial investment like with weed. While in reality they can easily grow several doses which easily match or surpass what they might be used to buying on the black market.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: blackout]
    #23861210 - 11/23/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not sure I'm getting your point? do you question whether proper grow lights makes a big difference or not?
I've grown bag seeds under a 40w indoor and I've grown bag seeds outside in pots, same soil, same fertilizers and there's no doubt in my mind using a 40w = stealing from your self.

if someone takes my post on proper fruiting conditions being important as saying dont grow sclerotia without spending a lot of $$ IDK what to say... :shrug:

if we stay on cubes for a while, there's no doubt simply drilling 4-6 holes and stuffing them with poly will give you way better results than growing in old school aquariums.

I grew on and off for about a decade before I really started reading up on the shroomery, I feel I can say with certainty there's just as much work/time and $$ being put into half-assing things getting half-assed results as there is to "doing it right" or at least having proper fruiting conditions.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: spacechildo]
    #23861280 - 11/23/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm not sure I'm getting your point? do you question whether proper grow lights makes a big difference or not?



I am saying growing under 40W of incandescent makes HUGE difference. The grow/yield would be pathetic and not worthwhile even attempting, if you did manage to grow any weed it would be so weak you would have to smoke a lot more plant material than if you had 1/10th the yield from a 400W HPS grow. The incandescent yield would likely be a lot less than 1/10th of the 400W grow, and also hugely less potent per gram.

I simply do not think its a fair comparison and am informing people who might have thought it was a direct comparison.

I am saying many who have read up about weed are fully aware of this fact, and if they take your post literally they might think there is absolutely zero point in attempting a similar "low budget" grow of shrooms. Many come on here and must be hugely put off even starting after reading about what is regarded as pretty much essential, PCs, misting, FCs etc. With very little investment you can produce product on a similar potency/quaility as commercial growers who have been doing this for decades, you might not match their BE, but many could read your post and think its not even worth bothering, if they do believe it is really directly comparable to growing weed.

I mentioned sclerotia as it can be grown with minimal investment, like those who do not want to invest any more than their 40W incandescent bulb, but you can get a very decent yield producing psilocybin with minimal investment, the same is not true of producing THC. Many are unaware of this, and your post may only convince they further that it is not worth even trying.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: blackout]
    #23861299 - 11/23/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

why do you keep bringing up price when drilling/melting/biting 4-6 small holes in a monotub is free?
its also so easy it doesnt take much effort at all, and not doing it = stealing from yourself.

as you dont fruit jars when you grow stones I dont see how that matters in this convo either..


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23861462 - 11/23/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

xPTxHIPPIe said:
Is any one else shocked he got fruits with no holes or perlite?

Heads up there's not much subsitition to this hobby and it's time to invest in a pc and start with agar then move it to a grain. I didn't like my cake experiences I use oats now and find that they are very nutrious



Wrong
He should start at pf tek and move from there.
If you need good advice OP feel free to :pm: me
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I only did 3 cake grows threw away every shroom ecept for the ones I tested for potency. multispore is to inconsistent. Potency can very shroom to shroom cake to cake. Agar is very simple I really wish I would of started with agar and saved my self the 3 months of middle school cake making.



That's what I harvested going agar to them grain to grain then into a mono with some sterlized cvg.

I'm sure most the vets and TCs would all agree to just jump into agar.

Use the search function and look up the pasty plate tek those things are full proof.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23861933 - 11/23/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I only did 3 cake grows threw away every shroom ecept for the ones I tested for potency. multispore is to inconsistent. Potency can very shroom to shroom cake to cake.




Can I ask how you tested for potency? Because I'm pretty sure the only verified way to do that without a gas chromatograph is to eat them. Potency varies even with a grow from agar. I'm not even sure an isolate gives you completely consistent results, although it's certainly better than MS.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: r.lutece]
    #23862493 - 11/24/16 03:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't really gotta around to testing for potency cause I'm growing pe. Shots strong enough by its self plus I started with a clone.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23871276 - 11/27/16 07:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Just a quick update: I drilled holes in there, replaced the towels and harvested everything, will soak them in water over night and roll them in verm tomorrow.
Hopefully I'll get the perlite I ordered delivered soon. I'll send you some photos then soon.

What's the best way of going from this grow to the next? Spore prints?

Edit: xPTxHIPPIe, I will read that tonight. Using agar means using the most potent mycelium and putting it in a petri dish right?


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: laslo]
    #23871520 - 11/27/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You can take some spore prints, or you could get into agar work and start taking clones and cleaning up the genetics. Both is good. Back up plans are always nice.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: laslo]
    #23871631 - 11/27/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Just a quick update: I drilled holes in there, replaced the towels and harvested everything, will soak them in water over night and roll them in verm tomorrow.
Hopefully I'll get the perlite I ordered delivered soon. I'll send you some photos then soon.

What's the best way of going from this grow to the next? Spore prints?

Edit: xPTxHIPPIe, I will read that tonight. Using agar means using the most potent mycelium and putting it in a petri dish right?




What you will start with is making clean spawn. If you had the agar now, you could clone using a piece of fruit and then begin looking to isolate for potency and speed/strength.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: spacechildo]
    #23872070 - 11/27/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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why do you keep bringing up price when drilling/melting/biting 4-6 small holes in a monotub is free?



If people already have and use the tubs for other purposes which require them to have no holes then it is not "free", I have unmodified tubs I use all the time for storing food, but only once ever couple of years for growing. From reading numerous other threads I have seen many people struggle to make holes, they are poor at DIY, have no drill, have to source polyfil etc. Things some think of as trivial and easy can be very daunting and off putting to others.

I still think your comparison "40W grow" is highly exaggerated and disingenuous, unfortunately others might take it at it's word and be further put off even attempting growing, thinking it's beyond their means/abilities.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: blackout]
    #23872086 - 11/27/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

well if you cant dedicate a $10 tub as a fruiting chamber then flip your lid and make sure it makes a gap between the lid and the tub.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22337800/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/4

denying your mushrooms proper conditions is stealing from yourself.
screwing in a proper light bulb is just as easy as screwing in an underperforming poor light bulb.

I have a strong feeling only kids who live with their parents cant afford $10 for a tub.
like not spending $10 on a tub to make a SAB. Sure you can still get mushrooms from your subs but at the end of the grow those $10 would turn into a way better grow than any inoculated in open air.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: blackout]
    #23872091 - 11/27/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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From reading numerous other threads I have seen many people struggle to make holes, they are poor at DIY, have no drill, have to source polyfil etc. Things some think of as trivial and easy can be very daunting and off putting to others.




and dude, if THAT's too much to ask of a person maybe mush culting isnt for them?
If you cant figure out how to make a hole in a tub, stick to finger painting :shrug:


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: spacechildo]
    #23872721 - 11/27/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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If you cant figure out how to make a hole in a tub, stick to finger painting :shrug:



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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: spacechildo] * 2
    #23872971 - 11/27/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I have a strong feeling only kids who live with their parents cant afford $10 for a tub.




I think you underestimate the number of hobbyists who are living paycheck to paycheck.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: r.lutece]
    #23872992 - 11/27/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: cronicr]
    #23874553 - 11/28/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The ideas are endless. Once you start messing with agar. No more syringes basically unless you wanna drop some spore on the agar and start fresh to look for potency, pinset, or other characteristics you may desire. Me personally I haven't grown enough and dont own a mini fridge to store cultures in yet, so I haven't explored everything yet but it seems endless.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: r.lutece]
    #23885115 - 12/01/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I have a strong feeling only kids who live with their parents cant afford $10 for a tub.




I think you underestimate the number of hobbyists who are living paycheck to paycheck.



Exactly, and it is not just about money, I know several people who could well afford the items needed but have zero skill when it comes to any sort of DIY stuff which is typically needed in this hobby, totally useless at DIY, it's a shame people like these might be put off joining online communities who might have eventually come up with worthwhile suggestions -even if they cannot actually do themselves. As many are inherently secretive they would not want to ask others to do what many consider ridiculously easy tasks for them. The sneering & snide comments really leave a bad taste, totally unnecessary.

Also in countries outside the US much of the equipment can cost a hell of a lot more.


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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: blackout]
    #23885145 - 12/01/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm right northeast for you blackout, I know all about how expensive some equipment can be.
But seriously, making holes in a tub doesnt take any know how.
and using the search engine is free. I found a no modified tub thread, so can anyone else if they really want to.

I just cant see how anyone are gonna succeed in growing mushrooms if drilling holes is a major problem for them.. how would you expect those people to even get spores into a syringe? that's like a ship in a bottle mindblower in comparison :shrug:

I never see anyone getting ridiculed for asking "stupid questions" here, we enourage people to UTFSE but we do strike down on stupid answers.
If people are too ashamed to even join because they feel drilling holes is an unachievable task they have way bigger problems in life.

I think you're grasping at straws here blackout, all I said was growing mushrooms in sub par conditions is stealing from yourself. and I still stand by it.


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