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laslo
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First proper cake grow, shroomers please help
#23857593 - 11/22/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi, I'm new here!
This september I started my first proper PF Tek rice flour cake grow with a syringe etc (Amazonian). Before I always used grow kits.
The mycelium took forever to grow. I prepared the glasses around the Middle of August this year, and birthed them around 3-4 weeks ago. Now it again took forever until some shrooms came out. The first ones just came a few days ago.
It looks like this now:

My questions: 1. Is it normal that it takes so long until Shrooms arrive? 2. Is it normal that just so few mushrooms come out? When I used grow kits before they all came at the same time, and there came tons of them. 3. Are those dark spots contamination? I didn't use perlite but paper towels, because I couldnt get any. I fanned and sprayed daily though.
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: laslo]
#23857696 - 11/22/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think the dark spots your referring to are the caps but idk what's going on there and yeah it takes for ever I spent 2 months getting 3 flushes out of my first mini mini.
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
#23857714 - 11/22/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Glad you have fruits. That being said, did you read and follow any proper teks? What kind of fruiting chamber is that, and what are those cakes? Start reading around here. Dick
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
#23857751 - 11/22/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jesus dude your cakes look like a popcorn ceiling. They need more air than you can provide by fanning, and paper towels are no substitute for perlite. They're probably taking so long to pin cuz they're choking to death in there.
Edited by Dactylium (11/22/16 03:30 PM)
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: Dactylium]
#23857814 - 11/22/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Take some pics of your FC. What tek did you use? It looks like there's no hole in it?
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: TheShroomster01]
#23857872 - 11/22/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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No dunk and roll? I'm glad to see you got a away from kits. Please do a search here for a proper PF tek procedure. That water sitting on the paper towels is bacteria breeding ground. If your gonna use paper towels I would suggest replacing them often and not letting water sit.
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Is any one else shocked he got fruits with no holes or perlite?
Heads up there's not much subsitition to this hobby and it's time to invest in a pc and start with agar then move it to a grain. I didn't like my cake experiences I use oats now and find that they are very nutrious
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
#23857907 - 11/22/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've seen shrooms with no perlite or holes......it's not what we are all used to or what is taught as proper but
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Yeah true if seen monos with no holes producing but if just tried to focus on what the TCs recommend. Could some one give him a link to the recommended teks from the amu thread I think it is? Not sure but I think he needs those if he wants to continue.
Stay patient bro if you can wait that long for pins and the fact that you have fruits means that you have potential in this hobby.
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
#23858003 - 11/22/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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first proper cake grow?
what is proper about wet paper towels ? wut da faq bruh?
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
#23858048 - 11/22/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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xPTxHIPPIe said: Is any one else shocked he got fruits with no holes or perlite?
Heads up there's not much subsitition to this hobby and it's time to invest in a pc and start with agar then move it to a grain. I didn't like my cake experiences I use oats now and find that they are very nutrious
Wrong He should start at pf tek and move from there. If you need good advice OP feel free to me Dick
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
#23858190 - 11/22/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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xPTxHIPPIe said: Is any one else shocked he got fruits with no holes or perlite?
No, look up neglect tek and you will see people growing inside jars invitro style. Many have "accidental" grows too with very poor conditions, no perlite, no holes, no light.
I have heard of paper towels used before, by Anno, a highly respected poster, now part of admin here.
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Anno said: >Paper towels would not be suitable. They would be a >contamination magnet and probably would not provide >enough humidity.
In my experience moist paper towels on bottom of the fruiting container and cakes placed directly on them work as well as a perlite layer. I?ve used them several times in the past with good results.
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: blackout]
#23858204 - 11/22/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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pics clearly shows that half-assed FC doesnt work "as good" as a properly built sgfc with perlite.
growing mushrooms in poor conditions is like growing MJ under a 40w incandescent light bulb, you're only stealing from yourself.
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: spacechildo]
#23858235 - 11/22/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Definitely needs some hardcore FAE. Turn that FC into an SGFC and they'll be way happier.
Also, when you were colonizing, how much spore solution did you use? Is that BRF/verm, or just BRF? Did the cakes get dunked (soaked in water for 24 hours)?
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: mushboy]
#23858368 - 11/22/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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mushboy said: first proper cake grow?
what is proper about wet paper towels ? wut da faq bruh?
Theres a lot of "I didn't follow a tek, what's wrong with my grow?" threads.
OP, like the others have said, follow the pf tek and your results will be much better. Good luck!
Completed my first grow and enjoyed the fruits of my labor yesterday, decided it's time to start posting.
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
#23859435 - 11/23/16 03:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks.
Don't be to hard on me, I'm just starting out. 
I mainly followed two PF Tek videos on youtube. One of them said paper towels where alright if you don't have perlite. If you use a grow kit you just put it in a plastic bag with water, without any holes and get quite good harvests. So I figured this would be alright for a start.
The growth chamber is just one of those transparent plastic boxes.
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r.lutece said: Definitely needs some hardcore FAE. Turn that FC into an SGFC and they'll be way happier.
Also, when you were colonizing, how much spore solution did you use? Is that BRF/verm, or just BRF? Did the cakes get dunked (soaked in water for 24 hours)?
I'm new to the topic so I don't get all the abbreviations... what's FAE and SGFC? The others are obvious. It's brown rice flour + verm. I didn't dunk and roll them unfortunately - the videos I followed didn't say anything about that.
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A.RichardTrickle said:
If you need good advice OP feel free to me Dick
Thanks mate, great offer, I'll definitely drop you a message right now.
So yeah what should I do guys?
Cheers.
Edited by laslo (11/23/16 04:03 AM)
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: laslo]
#23859447 - 11/23/16 03:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Be weary about private lessons lol..better to just post your questions here n get a variety of opinions...nothing wrong with paper towel just change it out as needed.
Move those cakes closer together and good luck.
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: cronicr]
#23859495 - 11/23/16 04:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: Be weary about private lessons lol..better to just post your questions here n get a variety of opinions...nothing wrong with paper towel just change it out as needed.
Move those cakes closer together and good luck.
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If you make your tub into a proper sgfc you can use gravel in place of perlite, you just need something with a lot of surface are... That standing water is asking for problems.
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: LocN9ne]
#23859649 - 11/23/16 06:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was just trying to be nice as dude does not know all of the abbreviations and what not Cron. So many times we forget that not everyone has been on this site for years like many of us who lurk and have the free time to do hours upon even days of research before dipping our toes in bud :-) I'm no pro on grains but I have put out a ton of cake grows and just want to pass on the wisdom that has been imparted upon me. Laslo - FAE = Fresh air exchange SGFC = ShotGun Fruiting Chamber. (due to the holes that make it appear to have been blasted with a shotgun blast. Best luck to ya laslo.  Dick
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Re: First proper cake grow, shroomers please help [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
#23859690 - 11/23/16 07:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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