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Energized By Trump's Win, White Nationalists Gather To 'Change The World'
    #23856515 - 11/22/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.npr.org/2016/11/20/502719871/energized-by-trumps-win-white-nationalists-gather-to-change-the-world

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Loyalists of the self-described white nationalist, alt-right movement from around the country gathered in D.C. Saturday afternoon, enthused by the election of Donald Trump and optimistic that their controversial, offensive views such as calling for a white, ethnocentric state were on the rise throughout the country.

'We're Not Going Away': Alt-Right Leader On Voice In Trump Administration


Spencer told journalists that he doesn't believe Trump himself is alt-right, the term he coined that's come to embody white supremacist, anti-Semitic and sexist ideas. But it was clear that his surprise election has given the once fringe movement a jolt, and on Saturday they were eager to take a victory lap. Spencer called Trump's campaign "the first step towards identity politics in the United States."

Spencer also restricted journalists from taking photos of the crowd inside the building to prevent the identification of attendees without their permission.

Before Trump, Spencer said, the alt-right was like a "head without a body," but then Trump came along and his campaign became "kind of a body without a head." He described the alt-right as having a "psychic connection" with Trump in way they don't have with other Republicans, and expressed hope that, "moving forward, the alt-right can, as an intellectual vanguard, complete Trump."

One of their chief policy proposals they hope to push through is a 50-year immigration freeze, with a preference given to European immigrants coming into the U.S. Spencer told NPR's Kelly McEvers in an interview Thursday that their ultimate goal was "a safe space effectively for Europeans," arguing for a return to the white origins of the country and protecting the white race.

The alt-right movement has gained attention and support throughout Trump's election and particularly through his appointment of Steve Bannon, the former head of alt-right-friendly Breitbart News, to be a senior strategist in the West Wing.

Spencer, however, argued that Bannon wasn't fully representative of the alt-right movement either, but that it's "very hopeful for me that Bannon is at least open to these things."

Bannon told the Hollywood Reporter on Friday, "I'm not a white nationalist, I'm a nationalist. I'm an economic nationalist."

Spencer was highly complimentary of Trump's first cabinet picks, particularly choosing Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions to be attorney general. Sessions is well-known for his hard-line immigration stances, and has had his own past controversy over race when he was voted down to be a federal judge in 1986 over remarks he'd made about the NAACP and allegedly called a white civil rights lawyer "a disgrace to his race."

He said that while Sessions was not alt-right necessarily, his views on immigration — and a belief that he may not fully enforce some civil rights protections — were encouraging to Spencer.

"The fact that he is going to be at such a high level is a wonderful thing. What Jeff Sessions is not going to do, in terms of not prosecuting federal diversity and fair housing, I think is just as powerful as what he might do," he said.

Spencer had praise for Trump's pick of retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn to be his national security adviser, calling him an "independent thinker" who wasn't aligned with the neoconservative movement, who the alt-right sees as too interventionist. In that same vein, Spencer said he would oppose former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton if he were selected to be secretary of state, criticizing him as too hawkish. He said the group was encouraged by Trump's foreign policy, particularly the way he praised Russia throughout the campaign and his skepticism for the U.S. commitment to NATO.

There were well more than 150 conference attendees — mostly young, white males dressed in suits — at just the afternoon press conference at the Ronald Reagan Building, sitting behind journalists, often heckling or booing questions. NPI said more than 250 people had registered for the conference. Some donned the signature Trump hat emblazoned with his slogan "Make America Great Again." When asked what the biggest Trump priority should be, there were loud cheers of "build that wall," reminiscent of Trump's massive rallies.

Outside the atmosphere was very tense, reflective of the mood of the country in the nearly two weeks since the election.

Around 1 p.m., just before the press conference began inside, a large crowd of the protesters began marching down Pennsylvania Avenue, coming from the new Trump Hotel toward the White House, which Trump will occupy come January, turning onto 14th Street Northwest outside the Reagan Building. They chanted "fascists we will shut you down" and "love trumps hate." Some signs read "alt-wrong" and "white nationalism is un-American." The confrontation got tense at several points, with protesters with bandannas covering their faces surrounding some apparent conference attendees, shouting "f*** off Nazis." A man's head was bloodied, according to WUSA, and NBC Washington reported police detained at least two people.

The NPI is classified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, and Spencer and other alt-right leaders recently had their Twitter accounts suspended, something he decried as an assault on the First Amendment.

Several said they were longtime attendees of the conference, and that there was definitely a new energy injected into their movement after Trump's victory.

Matt Forney of Chicago had attended past alt-right conferences, and said there was now an "infusion of new energy" and a lot of new faces who found out about the movement through groups on the internet and were encouraged by Trump's election.

"It was more like a cocktail party among old friends," Forney said of previous gatherings. "Now, it's like we're the vanguard of a new movement. People are happy and ready to change the world."

Evan Thomas of Michigan said that alt-right in a way was a misnomer, and he preferred the moniker "identitarian." He said that could encompass all sorts of people — as long as they were white.

"Identitarianism speaks to an understanding that, by nature, man is a creature of tribe," Thomas said.

And while Trump had certainly energized white voters, he cautioned that unless immigration of any kind were ceased, Trump's reelection in 2020 would be an uphill battle.

"He's got to act very tough, very quickly to reverse the demographic decline of European-Americans very swiftly. The coalition that brought him to the White House, he's got to keep that going and strengthen it, otherwise he will be a one-term president," Thomas said.

After most of the cameras and the reporters had left the conference on Saturday, Spencer's tone took a drastic and ugly turn. While NPR had reporters and producers at the afternoon press conference, we were not present for these later exchanges.

In video captured by The Atlantic for a documentary out next month, Spencer's closing speech was rife with anti-Semitic comments and Nazi references.

"Hail Trump, hail our people, hail victory" Spencer exclaimed, as many NPI conference attendees cheered and enthusiastically held their hands up to make a Nazi salute.

"No one will honor us for losing gracefully, no one mourns the great crimes committed against us," Spencer continued, talking about the white race. "For us, it is conquer or die."

He goes on to slam the press, using the term lügenpresse, a German word Nazis used for their media critics, and appearing to target Jews especially in the media.

"One wonders if these people are people at all, or instead soulless golem," Spencer said, referring apparently to the folklore of clay figure brought to life by rabbis in to protect the Jews.

"America was, until this past generation, a white country, designed for ourselves and our posterity. It is our creation, it is our inheritance, and it belongs to us," Spencer continued, drawing a standing ovation and more Nazi salutes.


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Re: Energized By Trump's Win, White Nationalists Gather To 'Change The World' [Re: yogabunny]
    #23856608 - 11/22/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

how the fuck is this real?


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Re: Energized By Trump's Win, White Nationalists Gather To 'Change The World' [Re: krishnalove]
    #23857013 - 11/22/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

https://www.buzzfeed.com/sheerafrenkel/fake-news-spreads-trump-around-the-world
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Less than 1% of Myanmar had internet access until 2014. Now the country is getting online at an astonishing rate — but so is fake news and anti-Muslim sentiment. Sheera Frenkel finds out what happens when everyone you know joins Facebook at the same time.




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Re: Energized By Trump's Win, White Nationalists Gather To 'Change The World' [Re: yogabunny] * 2
    #23857089 - 11/22/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Just what we need. Some idiot nazi-wannabes using Trump's name so more idiots will say "these are what Trump supporters look like." :facepalm:


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Re: Energized By Trump's Win, White Nationalists Gather To 'Change The World' [Re: Konyap]
    #23857101 - 11/22/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

These stupid nazis are too dumb to realize chump trump is in bed with the la and nyc jews that run america. His daughter has a jewish husband who is a big part of trumps campaign, so much so that chris christie was replaced by him as leader of the transition team.. Trump didn't get rich in manhattan real estate without jewish, help, support and approval. These nazis and americans in general are stupid as fuck if they think trump isn't a puppet candidate like bush, clinton, bush jr and obama. Trump is a member of the club and will do what he is toldto do by his masters.


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Re: Energized By Trump's Win, White Nationalists Gather To 'Change The World' [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
    #23857110 - 11/22/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Why so much hate for him all over the media then? Why were they pushing so hard for Hillary?


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Re: Energized By Trump's Win, White Nationalists Gather To 'Change The World' [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
    #23857139 - 11/22/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Interesting.

Master puppeteers or masters of influence?


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Re: Energized By Trump's Win, White Nationalists Gather To 'Change The World' [Re: Eminence]
    #23857151 - 11/22/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Why so much hate for him all over the media then? Why were they pushing so hard for Hillary?



My guess is after the way obama promised change and then did the exact same thing as bush was doing they needed a super convincing way to con the people into thinking they have a voice and the elections arent in fact rigged and decided in advance. They needed someone who seems outside ofthe 2 party system because people were super close to revolt from all the inflammatory issues they have been pushing to divide and conquerthe voters.


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Re: Energized By Trump's Win, White Nationalists Gather To 'Change The World' [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
    #23857213 - 11/22/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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krishnalove said:
how the fuck is this real?



I'm not too surprised. I witnessed something in Gulfport Mississippi back in 2002 or 2003 that completely shocked me. It was a rebel flag protest on the beach there. In my own physical experiences racism is not as dead as some people think. I am from Texas also (Fort Worth, DFW area). There was a sign on the highway coming into a town named "white settlement" and it read, "The blackest dirt and the whitest people" and this was up into the 80's. (I wonder where they got the name for the town?)

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These stupid nazis are too dumb to realize chump trump is in bed with the la and nyc jews that run america. His daughter has a jewish husband who is a big part of trumps campaign, so much so that chris christie was replaced by him as leader of the transition team.. Trump didn't get rich in manhattan real estate without jewish, help, support and approval. These nazis and americans in general are stupid as fuck if they think trump isn't a puppet candidate like bush, clinton, bush jr and obama. Trump is a member of the club and will do what he is toldto do by his masters.



Sounds about right.

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Why so much hate for him all over the media then? Why were they pushing so hard for Hillary?



My guess is after the way obama promised change and then did the exact same thing as bush was doing they needed a super convincing way to con the people into thinking they have a voice and the elections arent in fact rigged and decided in advance. They needed someone who seems outside ofthe 2 party system because people were super close to revolt from all the inflammatory issues they have been pushing to divide and conquerthe voters.



also sounds feasible.


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Re: Energized By Trump's Win, White Nationalists Gather To 'Change The World' [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
    #23857248 - 11/22/16 12:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Speaking of Hillary again..what do you think her part in this whole thing was? Do you think her and her campaign were part of this scheme or were they all played as well?


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Re: Energized By Trump's Win, White Nationalists Gather To 'Change The World' [Re: Eminence]
    #23857344 - 11/22/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

seriously it was a rally
so many military and old white men will never vote democrat so they watch their fox news and rally around whoever is in charge
the trojan horse won this year


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Re: Energized By Trump's Win, White Nationalists Gather To 'Change The World' [Re: Eminence]
    #23857379 - 11/22/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think her and trump both were pretty much both onboard so it would work out for the rulers either way the election went. Its like when bush jr and kerry ran against each other and were cousins and both in skull and bones. I read trump and hillary are actually related to each other also. They were both willing stooges for the powersthat be. Hillary is just so hated the elite had to 86 her so people wouldnt take up arms against them. Here is a link to the washington post explaining their blood relation:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/25/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-are-related-genealogy/


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Re: Energized By Trump's Win, White Nationalists Gather To 'Change The World' [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
    #23857460 - 11/22/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I was just asking because she ended up cancelling celebration plans and there was also a leaked video of her allegedly celebrating her win before the election was even over with.


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Re: Energized By Trump's Win, White Nationalists Gather To 'Change The World' (moved) [Re: yogabunny]
    #23858028 - 11/22/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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