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spacechildo
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: TheShroomster01]
#23858130 - 11/22/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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RR never told you to inoc through your SFDs bro 
I wouldn't use the stuff meant for pushing chairs around on wooden floors for GE on grain jars if that's what you're implying..
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TheShroomster01
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: spacechildo]
#23858231 - 11/22/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess you're right. When i think about it, he only shows inoc. When making cakes.
Yeah thanks what I mean. I use them and they work great.
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: TheShroomster01]
#23858245 - 11/22/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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They seem to be just a dense felt; is there a reason you can see that they wouldn't work as well, spacechildo?
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: r.lutece]
#23858269 - 11/22/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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r.lutece said: They seem to be just a dense felt; is there a reason you can see that they wouldn't work as well, spacechildo?
they're not meant for mush culting and you have no idea abuot their microns or how much GE they allow..
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: spacechildo] 1
#23858297 - 11/22/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's pretty true for polyfil, Tyvek, and regular EZ felt too, though. While those are certainly time-tested, I see no reason that the sticky felts shouldn't work as well as those. (I want to note that I'm not advocating for them over SFDs, but they don't seem to me as a significantly worse alternative to some of the other improvised filter materials.)
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TheShroomster01
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: spacechildo]
#23858309 - 11/22/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thats true. But do we know the microns on stuffed polyfill? No we just know it works because it has been tested. It's not really meant for cultivation of mushroom i guess.
These patches works pretty great thought. They do allow plenty GE and i haven't gotten any contam so i guess they a tight enough too.
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Edited by TheShroomster01 (11/22/16 06:45 PM)
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spacechildo
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: r.lutece]
#23858322 - 11/22/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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how do you know they allow sufficient ge? all those you mention do. tyvek and ez felt I have 0 exp with but seen plenty of people complain about failures with them. tyvek is 1 time use, that's very impractical. I wouldn't call them improvised either... they're tested, they work.
I dont see any reason to use untested materials as filter, especially for a newb who just wants success.
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: spacechildo]
#23858329 - 11/22/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: how do you know they allow sufficient ge? all those you mention do. tyvek and ez felt I have 0 exp with but seen plenty of people complain about failures with them. tyvek is 1 time use, that's very impractical. I wouldn't call them improvised either... they're tested, they work.
I dont see any reason to use untested materials as filter, especially for a newb who just wants success.
I definitely agree that Tyvek is a pain in the ass. And please don't take the word "improvised" here to mean untested; just that they are materials being used for a purpose other than the one for which they were intended.
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: r.lutece]
#23858361 - 11/22/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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good point 
as you may've understood IDK if those chair-thingys work or not, my point was dont suggest it as a filter to a new guy who wants success, if anyone wanna prove how good something works make a thread and do a side by side, I'll be all popcorn and rooting for your success!
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: spacechildo]
#23859335 - 11/23/16 02:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo said:
I dont see any reason to use untested materials as filter, especially for a newb who just wants success.
That's the point! That's the reason why I didn't try them, I think I won't even be able to tell if they work well or not
So I thought better start a thread and ask, whether some of the pros here used them.
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: AlCapone2k] 1
#23859493 - 11/23/16 04:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I agree, why does everyone on this site always seem to think it's a crime to deviate a tiny bit from the TEK? You can try some stuff for yourself, and if it doesn't work out too bad, you ain't got shit. But if it does work out, maybe you found something to help others cultivate. Experiments lead to progress, but you do need to put some thought and research into them.
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: Tiamo] 1
#23859517 - 11/23/16 05:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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They think that because its all about Yeild vs time spent trying something new. In the old days people did crazy nee teks all the time. Only a few survived because they are designed to meet litte yield. I wonder if its the cheap mask he means or the more pricy ones
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: tump]
#23859534 - 11/23/16 05:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I couldn't care about yield. If I want to trip I can trip, who cares about a failed grow? I don't care about time spent, this is a hobby.
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: tump]
#23859551 - 11/23/16 05:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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tump said: They think that because its all about Yeild vs time spent trying something new. In the old days people did crazy nee teks all the time. Only a few survived because they are designed to meet litte yield. I wonder if its the cheap mask he means or the more pricy ones
The guy I have the idea from uses the high-priced Braun Masks. The price is irrelevant, important is, that they are surgical masks and not normal "doctors masks". The reason is that only surgical masks alow GE while they stop all bacteria and spores to come throug.
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: AlCapone2k]
#23859610 - 11/23/16 06:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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See it's the cost then. Cheap mask like we think of are cheap as hell the good mask are more pricey and have carbon based filters that are forces a tight fit on people to prevent sickness I was bored last night so i try finding the mirco size rate on the mask. The cheap ones only filter 95% of common virus.
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: tump]
#23859744 - 11/23/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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just checked ebay out, i found a great shop called ukmushroomsupplies I guess ill buy from him when I switch to grains
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TheShroomster01
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: spongegar]
#23861472 - 11/23/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The felt patches has been tested too. I haven't seen them on here thought but i bought them on ebay and it was actually from ukmushroomsupplies.
He sold them as GE filters and i made the conclusion that they were the same as for the chairs etc. which have worked out fine for me.
I wouldn't recommend something 'new' that i haven't tested myself.
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: TheShroomster01]
#23861508 - 11/23/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: spacechildo]
#23861515 - 11/23/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Using surgical Masks as a GE Filter in Jars [Re: spacechildo]
#23862455 - 11/24/16 02:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Man you are great! 4,50 Euro for shipping is ok I'll buy them!
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