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castaway
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mickywilliams2 said: Ive got a crazy story.
once when I was young my mom bought me a quiji board. We played with it and the typical stuff happened, ya know, youre movin it, no youre movin it. After maybe a year of sitting in my closet I took it down from the shelf and took it out to a fire in the back yard and burned it. I didnt tell my friends that I had burned the board. Most my friends didnt know or remember I had it in my closet for so long. A few years went by and my neighborhood was getting strange. We always heard things in the night so we called it the weed monster and joked around about he was gonna kill us. We knew it didnt really exist. But then there were sightings with similar descriptions and people playing evil tricks on each other like flaming stars burned into the grass at the lake. It was getting crazy. Shortly after that 2 of my friends went completely nuts one was spreading evil sexual rumors about everyone in the neighborhood and everything just fell apart. Shortly after that my aunt calls my house and talks to my father. She said she had the strangest feeling that she needed to tell him about anointing(sp?) the house shes all into church and stuff. He annointed the house and then we began to hear noises like tapping on the walls all night. We tried not to admit that it was the weed monster and my garage had thousands of live moths just flying around.. After that I got into trouble with the law. While I was locked up my dad was talking to one of my friends about spiritual stuff. The subject of quiji boards came up during the conversation and my dad was shocked to hear what had happened with my friend. My friend said that he and another friend were playing with a quiji board one night. They asked it its name and it spelled weed monster. They started to ask it who it wanted to kill but then got scared and just asked it who it was after. it spelled out my name. They asked it why and it said because he burned my home.
It's stories like this that keep me coming back for more 5 shrooms for you!
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castaway
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Re: Ouiji Boards [Re: adamj]
#2387262 - 02/28/04 06:24 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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The one-time I tried the board it told us to eff-off and I figured it was just my grandmothers way of shocking me and getting herself out of the duty of entertaining me.
We messed around with it some after she left but didn't get anything worth the trouble.
If it were the real-deal I would think it would work despite the blindfold, unless like 2Experimental said, it brings out repressed spirits in the mind of the human, in which case the location of the answer boxes may be necessary.
Grandmother liked her spirits even tho mum & dad tried to repress those tendencies in her
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Re: Ouiji Boards [Re: adamj]
#2387284 - 02/28/04 07:21 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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the evil spirit of mass produced bullshit
-------------------- "What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?" - Bill Hicks
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recalcitrant
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mickywilliams2 said: Im saved... but now Im surrounded by good spirits.
saved as in christianly saved?
surrounded by good spirits. Wow, uhh, good for you I guess. The thing I want to address is, how do you figure you are surrounded by good spirits?? Wouldn't it be adventageous for "the devil" (who is all about harvesting souls, uhh i guess) to make you feel saved?
If I was the devil, I would be like "yo, uhh, i'm with god's crew, and you're gonna b just fine. Here, feel really good about your situation!" and then totally give him great vibes till he dies and collect +1 soul. That'd be my plan anyway.
That is assuming I could EVER think in terms of good and evil. too archaic. get yourself a grey area.
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TheShroomHermit
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I think you're Right By Association, but Brain Seizure the Selective Quotation, "Brain Seizure! Brain Seizure!"
Are I saying that just because the answer circle wasent on the "YES" mark the spirits( or guides) couldn't still be saying yes? Absolutely. The whole concept is that the spirits move the peice to the answer. If the people are thinking the "YES" mark is somewhere it isn't, and they move a peice to that place, it proves that it's the collective conciousness of the players moving the piece. Are you trying to suggest that if they flipped the board around 180 degrees and asked everyone to play WITHOUT blindfolding them, they would still move the peice to the same blank space of the board and say "yes?"
I'm sure you could have passed english if you didn't have to write anything. Then again, you only think spirits exist because of an irrational suppressed death taboo common among those who have suffered mental angst during childhood.
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By the way, that was a Cheap Shot-Brain Seizure, Like I Said-Wishful Thinking.
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Re: Ouiji Boards [Re: castaway]
#2388160 - 02/29/04 02:54 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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yes christianly saved.
I believe I felt Jesus that Sunday morning and I havnt been the same. Im no Jesus freak but i believe he does walk with me. He comforts me when I need it and has bailed me out of some tight situations. My love for a person cannot feel more pure than when I pray for them in the name of Christ. This is a much healthier belief than what you suggest. I mean if it wasnt for god I would be thinking along those lines and I would be a complete mess. knowing this further fortifies my faith. I believe me and Jesus can kick a demon right out the door and tell them not to came back if we want to.
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castaway
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Well I think your story has great entertainment value and is worthy of developing a movie from.
I would like to hear more about the sexual rumors, so I can judge for myself if they fell under the category of 'Evil'
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Re: Ouiji Boards [Re: castaway]
#2388321 - 02/29/04 05:31 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Incest, Gay, adultery, pedophilia... different combinations 'evil' I just realized that I have been replying to the wrong people. Ive bee just clicking quick reply on whatever message I happen to be reading. Sorry yall
Edited by mickywilliams2 (02/29/04 05:39 AM)
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castaway
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's funny; I equate undue pain and hardship with 'Evil'.
not sex.
Perhaps your own opinions will change with experience.
Then again perhaps they wont and you'll remain a fringe fundamentalist hung up on sex forever.
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Re: Ouiji Boards [Re: castaway]
#2388422 - 02/29/04 07:49 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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'fringe fundamentalist hung up on sex forever' Im not sure what fringe fundamentalist means. Could u explain?
Im not hung up on sex forever but I would never let anybody have sex with my child.
Almost everyone looks at incest and pedophilia as evil. You may not. Maybe the evil is in the way we see pedophilia. Either way when a child is brought up to think that theyre not supposed to be touched and then they get raped its evil. Where exactly the evil lies is debatable. Its almost the worst thing you can do to a child. Its undue pain and hardship when a kid is all messed up due to an adult who knew better. Incest, you can have messed up babies from that. It may not always be evil but there is something wrong with it for sure. Gay, if its two adults, its none of my business. Adultery, well I believe a marriage is sacred. Some people swap wives but that's their business. You may not see it as completely evil but I would like to know how you separate it from evil (pedophilia and incest). How??? When is incest or pedophile not evil? Or do you agree with me on some level?
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Re: Ouiji Boards [Re: adamj]
#2388457 - 02/29/04 08:33 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awesome post! I actually read the whole thing. With the whole "good" and "negative" spirit thing i'd say just keep in mind the negative spirits can be eliminated with love and not being afraid. Thats why exorsisms given but high priests in teh catholic church work. (anyone catch taht discovery special?) If anyones interested in performing a seance type ritual and wants to let in good spirits only, i suggest they look into table tipping.
-------------------- Mindfulness is the aware, balanced acceptance of the present experience. It isn't more complicated than that. It is opening to or recieving the present moment, pleasant or unpleasant, just as it is, without either clinging to it or rejecting it.
Edited by Jenny (02/29/04 08:51 AM)
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"Incest, you can have messed up babies from that. It may not always be evil but there is something wrong with it for sure."
it has been common practice in many cultures, and in some cases still is, isolation sees to that. you do what you have to do to survive and perpetuate your species...
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Re: Bump your favorite post: [Re: Asante]
#5536717 - 04/20/06 07:38 AM (18 years, 2 days ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: The Ouija..
I'd say dont mess with it. Now the idea of people being convicted there are spirit entities around I am completely comfortable with, I believe differently however.
The rational mind will say it's all in the head.. (mine does) But so is your entire perception of the cosmos and all you are when high on the logic of rationality. (shoot me up with pure science and i'll write long posts longing for the cognitive orgasm of insight )
Consider this: People have got some undercurrents in their selves that in most seldom show. You might suddenly get an odd idea out of the blue, for instance harming yourself or others, destructive thoughts that seem alien to your personality.
In many powerful mushroom or LSD trips people flip over to the other side for the strongest part of the trip: The timid may become talkative, the religious blasphemous into the high heavens, the prude become lewd and obscene and those who tend to think they are "all that" suddenly shrivel to shy quivering heaps of insecureness. Now that's really OK! Deep inside we all have a character opposite to our usual that may pop up every once in a while or may take over the show for some hours.
Nasty as they may be, even when violently inclined these inverse personalities almost never do anything beyond the symbolic, they will not lay a finger on anyone or themselves or thrash the room in almost all people with no significant psychological problems and likewise in most who do, even when skyflying on high-dose LSD you tend to self-regulate sufficiently. The inverse personality may spew verbal venom at all around him but almost never become physically violent or sexually violent.
Even if projectiles fly all around these tend to be the less injurous ones (the empty pack of marlboro's and not the 1 lb bronze ashtray) and they tend to miss the target of the rage, because the violent anger most often remains *SYMBOLICAL* in nature. In this sense, when it comes to physical injury to the self or others, even high doses of LSD are generally far safer as alcoholic drinks:
Not only is physical violence far less frequent among the psychedelically high vs. the drunks, but the pureness of psychedelics often translates into purer symbolics behind it, while the alcohol ANESTHETIZES vital parts of the symbolic dynamics. The tripper generally aims to miss, the drunk tends to hit and injure. An enraged tripper usualy will hurl the beer bottle to the wall between the people, while the drunk smashes the bottle on a tabletop and starts brushing somebodies face with the broken part. Most people's sober violence amounts to a bitchslap and casting a hurt look at someone. On LSD or Alcohol more agressiveness takes place, but the general symbolism of blind psychedelic rage is in stark contrast to the often more deliberate harm-oriented violence by the same people when enraged under Alcohol's anaesthesia.
(Alcohol has the ethyloxy anesthetic group of ether with the polar hydrogen-oxygen bond shifting the oil-to-water solubility ratio making it more dangerous in the unconscious realms but safer by being less potent, rapidly metabolized and by its oral ingestion easily dosed with far less chance of dangerous overdoses; Alcohol LITERALLY is an anaesthetic, giving toxic narcosis in OD.)
Ahem! My point!
We all have an inverse personality undercurrent that is opposite to our character and thus can be seen as evil. (because few see themselves as evil while sober because of the human ability to justify any random action in less then 5 seconds if we want to)
When you use things like the Ouija board and Automatic Writing you make yourself a blank slate (tabula rasa) for all sorts of unconscious expressions. The technique of Automatic Writing is "zombify then read afterwards" which can royally fuck you up, but not quite so as the Ouija board.
With the Ouija board there usually is a sense of skepticism (backfires when something actually does happen) or a sense of fear involved. The MAJOR PROBLEM is that you try to NOT zombify but read the "Automatic Writing" as it comes. This will cause a feedback loop (any tripper who reads his FAQs knows -that- usually is the cause of bad trips, not weird ungraspable stuff) where it all goes downhill from there, the -exact terrors of the participants- manifest themselves while fear and suggestibility mounts. The hypnosis effect and fear reinforcement can lead to the most vile deliberate evil shit. Ofcourse the "evil spirit" knows what granny whispered on her deathbed and give it the most horrible meaning...
Because the so-called disembodied spirit is in fact your unconscious manifesting through the alcohol-like anaesthesia of Hypnosis combined with present fear and the *INSIDE* knowledge of your experiences and worst terrors and guiltfeelings, and perhaps access mental possibilities yet unproven and thus deemed "paranormal".
Ouija boards provide an unique opportunity to combine hypnotic sugestibility's partial anaesthesia with the realm of psychedelic bad trips, which can give you the worst bad trip *while you think you are sober* with your half-paralyzed subconscious smashing the beerbottle and scrubbing it into your psychological face.
Ouija boards are an ideal platform for truely destructive bad trips, can therefor be more disruptive then psychedelic bad trips while holding merit only to very few people and should thus be discouraged EVEN IF NO SPIRIT WORLD EXISTED. Psychedelics in most tend towards purer symbolics and unification, while the Ouija board tends towards unhinged symbolics and fragmentation. GOT OUIJA ?
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Re: Ouiji Boards [Re: adamj]
#5536913 - 04/20/06 09:29 AM (18 years, 2 days ago) |
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I don't believe in that stuff but I'm not gonna try and say anyone's lying either. I wouldn't test a ouija.
I did some automatic writing. I typed this out right away: "this day is a day like others. there is no room for error. only one way out. up. looking back i fail often. there is only you and me. the past is ugly. the future is blank. written in projection. abandonment. forty years and not one - forget what i learned. filth. decay. unhappy. sad. breakdown. strength sapped. strength"
lol. bottom line I'm lazy and need exercize to get my mental strength back. My subconscious is yelling at me!
-------------------- Namaste
Edited by RedNucleus (04/20/06 09:37 AM)
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Re: Ouiji Boards [Re: adamj]
#5539192 - 04/20/06 09:10 PM (18 years, 1 day ago) |
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One time i pissed it off ... I didn't know "the rules" and I just went and bought one and with 2 friends. I asked it whats the meaning of life and it didn't answer so I kept asking then I said fucking answer my question and it flew across the room and smashed into a million little pieces. Well I don't plan on doing that again...
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