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OfflineTmethylM
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #23856766 - 11/22/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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and apparently d.a.r.e has been unsuccessful in stopping drug use and there is evidence that it makes them more likely too.



The moment you make something seem forbidden you make it desirable.
Especially when dealing with kids.
In my personal experience, D.A.R.E made drugs appear mysterious and intriguing.. :lol:


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23856770 - 11/22/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yes. Because drugs are evil.


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: SleepyE]
    #23856777 - 11/22/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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lol i just read that D.A.R.E decided to remove mention of marijuana from the curriculum because apparently D.A.R.E was sending the wrong message that cannabis is as dangerous as heroin or crack making people believe heroin is no big deal when compared to pot which ended up giving a destructive impression to people who do decide to use drugs.

and apparently d.a.r.e has been unsuccessful in stopping drug use and there is evidence that it makes them more likely too.



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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Adolin]
    #23856782 - 11/22/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Drugs are just drugs dood

Calling drugs evil is like calling salt & pepper evil


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23856783 - 11/22/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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and apparently d.a.r.e has been unsuccessful in stopping drug use and there is evidence that it makes them more likely too.



The moment you make something seem forbidden you make it desirable.
Especially when dealing with kids.
In my personal experience, D.A.R.E made drugs appear mysterious and intriguing.. :lol:



why would they even call their program D.A.R.E? Makes them seem like the serpent secretly trying to influence you into eating from the forbidden tree.
The whole program was just a massively counter-productive operation and the irony is pretty funny.


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23856786 - 11/22/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Everyone knows drugs aren't actually evil. A lot of them just cause evil things to happen for a lot of people who use them


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Sheekle]
    #23856797 - 11/22/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I was addicted to meth for years and I never let it compromise my morals

Evil is found in the hearts and souls of men, not in a chemical

That's just my opinion tho, drugs definitely have the power to unlock said evil but they in themselves are just chemical structures


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Ultron]
    #23856815 - 11/22/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Nope. I had an interesting situation as a kid so I saw a lot of shit when I was young. I can remember e-tards running around when I was 3 years old. My dad used to be an alcoholic, and drank with his brothers a lot. My mother couldn't be trusted to stay with us kids when he had his little bit of time off from his multiple jobs :lol: so we went with and hung with the cousins and shit. To this day when I think of my uncle Willy I think of the smell of hash. I probably got a second hand high too. I remember being young and standing over the ashtray with the cigarette burning and inhaling it to see what was up, not that I didn't already know like that was back when smoking in the car was normal. My dad was very open with me about his drug use(but not too open). I heard things when I was younger, I knew he grew dope by the time I was 7, he didn't tell me I just knew. Which was the same year I officially found out about Santa Claus, not that I didn't have an idea before.

When you're young around a bunch of drunk adults you see and hear weird shit. I had a fascination with acid from the age of 10 probably, attributing it to the peak drug experience and wanting to just try that because I figured nothing could be any more than that. I ended up trying pretty much everything before it unfortunately. Anyway the point is I never thought there was anything wrong with drug use, and as it's been said in this thread, DARE did not fucking help at all. :lol:


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23856839 - 11/22/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Drugs are just drugs dood

Calling drugs evil is like calling salt & pepper evil




salt and pepper don't ruin lives though


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Adolin]
    #23856855 - 11/22/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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salt and pepper don't ruin lives though



well im very worried about my sisters health as she suffers from obesity. Food addiction can be as insidious and destructive as some drugs but i dont wage war on junk food because my sister cannot control her behavior.


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: SleepyE]
    #23856859 - 11/22/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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salt and pepper don't ruin lives though



well im very worried about my sisters health as she suffers from obesity. Food addiction can be as insidious and destructive as some drugs but i dont wadge war on junk food because my sister cannot control her behavior.




salt and pepper are basically condiments though, not food. Pepper is healthy, contains minerals and micronutrients, and piperidine has been shown to help your body absorb nutrients from other food.

Salt isnt particularly healthy, but the jury is still out about whether or not it actually causes high blood pressure on its own.


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Adolin]
    #23856866 - 11/22/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

but your statement saying drugs ruin lives is about as accurate as saying food ruins lives.

both can be true, but dont have to be if you have self control.

with self control food and drugs and be a positive experience.


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: SleepyE]
    #23856875 - 11/22/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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but you statement saying drugs ruin lives is about as accurate as saying food ruins lives.

both can be true, but dont have to be if you have self control.

with self control food and drugs and be a positive experience.




Drugs require a whole lot more self control than food, and food is actually necessary to survival. Doing drugs isnt.


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Ultron]
    #23856877 - 11/22/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

As children, it's easy to be uninformed on complex issues and buy into any idealistic philosophy crammed down our throats, from religion to the war on drugs.  We just need to make sure the children are pacified with smartphones and adderall while we teach them their morals and values.


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Adolin]
    #23856896 - 11/22/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Drugs require a whole lot more self control than food, and food is actually necessary to survival. Doing drugs isnt.



huh? you're saying sugar doesn't have a similar addictive effect as drugs like cocaine? where is your evidence for that.

You can argue that one wouldn't need drugs like cocaine, but many people lives would be considerably worse if they had no access to things like medical marijuana or kratom.
some people NEED drugs to live a decent life.


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: SleepyE]
    #23856913 - 11/22/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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but your statement saying drugs ruin lives is about as accurate as saying food ruins lives.

both can be true, but dont have to be if you have self control.

with self control food and drugs and be a positive experience.



what are you 15?


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Sheekle]
    #23856917 - 11/22/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

ok


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: SleepyE]
    #23856920 - 11/22/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm pretty sure our ancestors that survived ice ages and famines are the reason carbohydrates create such a strong reward-pleasure reaction in the brain.  On the other hand, cocaine's never been necessary for survival in our history as humans.  Totally incomparable substances in terms of their "addictive" qualities.


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23856928 - 11/22/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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cocaine's never been necessary for survival in our history as humans.  Totally incomparable substances in terms of their "addictive" qualities.



i know i said so.
sorry i didnt intend to start an argument i realize im a little off with my comparisons.
cocaine and heroin are obviously worse because of the withdraw and stuff but people can really take anything too far.


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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: SleepyE]
    #23856934 - 11/22/16 10:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Cocaine doesn't have withdrawals.  It's not physically addictive.


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