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Did you ever see drugs as evil
#23856120 - 11/22/16 01:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So when I was younger I never saw myself doing any type of drug few years pass by and I end up trying weed and mushrooms opened my mind never thought I would try anything else several years after that I tried lsd,dmt,cocaine,dxm,ketamine and prescription opiates/codeine. Very mind expanding ilost a lot of my old self and grew in ways I never saw myself growing.my question to you shroomerites is did you ever see yourself trying drugs, what got you started, what were your view on drugs, has this view changed and if so how?
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Ultron]
#23856133 - 11/22/16 01:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I dont even know where the idea of drugs or the influence came from, but Ive always been into them. I remember when I was a child I had a tiny cup and would pretend it was a shot glass. I would fill it up with water and take shots. I snorted smarties. I smoked plants I found in my back yard.

No fucking idea. Neither of my parents drink or do drugs.
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Can are need to experiment with are consciousness be hardwired into are d.n.a as almost a survival technique similar to Terrance McKennas stoned ape theory
Edited by Ultron (11/22/16 01:34 AM)
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Ultron]
#23856148 - 11/22/16 01:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Like Rua said, I was fed a lot of anti drug propaganda growing up, which made me perceive hard drugs like crack and heroin as evil. But I always had the suspicion that they were not entirely accurate or not imparting the entire truth, which I leaned later on was true.
Now, I know that there are no evil drugs. A substance is inherently neutral. In the same way that you cannot blame overeating on the food being evil. It's you.
I have used "hard" drugs without even the slightest trend towards addiction. It's possible to shoot heroin or snort cocaine a few times, enjoy the shit out of it, then move on unharmed.
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Tmethyl]
#23856204 - 11/22/16 03:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can remember as young as 5-7 promising myself to never drink alcohol or soda because of everyone else. I have many personal reasonings for it but I drink soda as much as I drink beer which is less than 5 times a month
I was also a part of DARE (drug awareness resistance education) Such a simple time in life....
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Ultron]
#23856215 - 11/22/16 03:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I never really knew much of anything about drugs until the 5th grade when DARE came to our school and told us all about LSD and how it would make you go insane and it only made me acutely interested in trying drugs. Thanks DARE. So I got a real good early start to the world of drugs, throughout high school was a major pothead and acid and mesc eater. I was against meth and heroin and crack and PCP and coke and shit because of the fucked up things I saw happen to people on those drugs and the lives ruined. Oh and alcohol.. that's the worst one. I still kind of am against those drugs although I do see they can all have value in the right circumstances. Heroin is fucking great but lots of people suck at moderation and self control.
I think all drugs should be legalized. So no... drugs aren't evil... drug laws are evil. If some drugs ruins some lives some of the time because some people can't handle their shit... criminalizing drug use just make everything worse in every way.
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Ultron]
#23856224 - 11/22/16 03:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah when I was a kid I was against all drugs. That only changed when I was a teenager. I was depressed, everyone seemed to be smoking weed, and I figured what did I have to lose? Maybe it would make me feel better. It did, and the rest is history.
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Dark_Star]
#23856229 - 11/22/16 03:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I too think drugs shouldn't be illegal the drug war is a war on people most problems involving drugs are caused by there illegality.
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Ultron]
#23856234 - 11/22/16 03:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Having both seen the benefits of certain drugs, and lived through the darkness of addiction I agree. The war on drugs is a failure, and the evidence to that effect is overwhelming. Unfortunately the powers that be continue to cling to it.
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Ultron]
#23856273 - 11/22/16 04:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ultron said: did you ever see yourself trying drugs, what got you started, what were your view on drugs, has this view changed and if so how?
I read about drugs in a science magazine/book, and I saw a history channel program on drugs, this made me want to try drugs, specifically LSD and pot. I have never been peer pressured into using, also didn't think it was going to make me cool, I just thought they looked interesting, so after I tried one, I tried them all because I figured if one substance could be like that, then what would the other substances be like. I was taking codeine syrup, hydros, xanax out of my stepdads stash for a while before I ever tried the stuff I couldn't get from the medicine cabinet.
My views on drugs were not bad at all, which I don't know why because it seemed like everyone else was a product of Drug Abuse Resistance Education (DARE), I never swallowed that pill. I am diagnosed ADHD, I don't know if there's truth to that, but I will say some people think that those that are ADHD have nothing wrong with them, they're just told they do because they don't respond well to institutionalized programming. I think I have always had the desire to lift the veil, and see something for what it is, rather than believing mass hysteria.
My views now have changed, not for the negative though. I am in my 30's, the main reason I post about drugs here, is so that I might help educate those that are younger and just getting into drugs to use substances properly, and to cut some of the ignorance associate with drug use. While I don't condone hard drug use (coke, meth, heroin) I will not tell someone that they shouldn't use those things, I understand people are going to use drugs regardless of being told how it can be a slippery slope. I know I never listened to people in the past that warned me about the dangers of IV heroin use, I was stubborn and stupid, and this lead to years of addiction, but it was real and that's what mattered. I will never talk down about such things, but I find it more important to talk about harm reduction, and if you're going to use, to go about doing so as safely as possible.
I have never viewed drugs as evil.
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Lucis]
#23856285 - 11/22/16 04:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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when i was young there wasnt much mention of drugs but my parents were against it. when i first heard about marijuana and specifically psychedelics i immediately feel in love with the idea that you could experience different things and hallucinate and i thought that was amazing. i think this was around grade 4-5. This was about at the time dare came to our school and showed us the hunter S thompson collection of "drug samples" to show us the "evils" of it and i was excited and almost turned on by the illicitness. I fantasized many times at 10 years old to what it would be like to try a drug. Like a lot too, the thought would be on my mind like everyday. I remember having a class mate that would harass me from time to time because i showed interest in drugs. the kid said "bad boy bad boy, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when i tell on you." it was awkward when i had to explain to my parents why i was looking up drugs on the internet at that age after booking my browser history luckily i came up with some excuse that worked.
so i guess i feel lucky to say that there has never been a time were i was anti drug, did not fall for propaganda because i was never one for following dumb rules.
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: SleepyE]
#23856290 - 11/22/16 04:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I often wonder if there's something to the ADHD thing I mentioned in my first post, because my older sibling bought the DARE thing hook, line, and sinker. He thought pot was horrible, that it made your dick shrink, all the typical propaganda a young guy is told so they don't smoke, it wasn't until years later that he got into smoking weed occasionally.
Even with shrooms, he didn't dose until he was in his late 20's because of having a limited view of such things. I have tried to get my mom to dose because she has gone through many traumas, and I KNOW that a dose would benefit her, I just know it with every fiber of my being! When I have talked with her about it she always asks if she would go crazy, it's funny how much her views have been skewed by poor information and religion.
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Lucis]
#23856611 - 11/22/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was really interested by certain drugs but i never thought i would do them.
I used to have dreams that i would find my dads old weed in the house and try it once and become hooked. 
A couple times i have had dreams where i smoked one cigar or cigarette and got hooked.
And ONE time i had a dream that i smoked crack and got hooked.
I didnt think i would even try weed. The eventually i wanted to try weed one time when i was an adult. Thats when i became sort of interested. My friend and i (he was acctually a pot head in grade 7 but i was still to scared to try it) would sometimes pretend we were smoking joints. Mostly we would rip off a small peice of paper, put it on our tounge and say "and here we go" and we would snort pixie sticks. Once he took a fancy breif case with a cut open bag of flower in it and snorted it and told me it was real cocaine lol.
Then i tried weed and then got interested in mushrooms and LSD for exploring my mind and then more and more frugs became exceptable to me. Starting with all psyches then more and more and more. Ive also become smarter so some drugs that i might have tried at one point i decided not to.
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Lucis]
#23856623 - 11/22/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fennario said:
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Ultron said: did you ever see yourself trying drugs, what got you started, what were your view on drugs, has this view changed and if so how?
I read about drugs in a science magazine/book, and I saw a history channel program on drugs, this made me want to try drugs, specifically LSD and pot. I have never been peer pressured into using, also didn't think it was going to make me cool, I just thought they looked interesting, so after I tried one, I tried them all because I figured if one substance could be like that, then what would the other substances be like. I was taking codeine syrup, hydros, xanax out of my stepdads stash for a while before I ever tried the stuff I couldn't get from the medicine cabinet.
My views on drugs were not bad at all, which I don't know why because it seemed like everyone else was a product of Drug Abuse Resistance Education (DARE), I never swallowed that pill. I am diagnosed ADHD, I don't know if there's truth to that, but I will say some people think that those that are ADHD have nothing wrong with them, they're just told they do because they don't respond well to institutionalized programming. I think I have always had the desire to lift the veil, and see something for what it is, rather than believing mass hysteria.
My views now have changed, not for the negative though. I am in my 30's, the main reason I post about drugs here, is so that I might help educate those that are younger and just getting into drugs to use substances properly, and to cut some of the ignorance associate with drug use. While I don't condone hard drug use (coke, meth, heroin) I will not tell someone that they shouldn't use those things, I understand people are going to use drugs regardless of being told how it can be a slippery slope. I know I never listened to people in the past that warned me about the dangers of IV heroin use, I was stubborn and stupid, and this lead to years of addiction, but it was real and that's what mattered. I will never talk down about such things, but I find it more important to talk about harm reduction, and if you're going to use, to go about doing so as safely as possible.
I have never viewed drugs as evil.
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Ultron]
#23856666 - 11/22/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, and I still see a lot of drugs as being dangerous and destructive. One would have to be extremely naive or never have been to an inner-city to think drugs are all rainbows and unicorns.
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Sheekle]
#23856731 - 11/22/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Drugs themselves aren't inherently evil, they're just molecules, but some of them can cause extremely intense suffering which can cause people to become evil or do evil things out of desperation or insanity
Some drugs are more capable of this than others and thus have developed more of a stigma in the minds of people in general, while other drugs have been demonized by society when in reality said drugs are nowhere near as destructive as other drugs which are legally available
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Shroomism]
#23856735 - 11/22/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: So no... drugs aren't evil... drug laws are evil.

As I've heard before "The most dangerous thing about marijuana is that it's illegal."
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Tmethyl]
#23856749 - 11/22/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I used to be very against them in highschool
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Re: Did you ever see drugs as evil [Re: Sheekle] 1
#23856752 - 11/22/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol i just read that D.A.R.E decided to remove mention of marijuana from the curriculum because apparently D.A.R.E was sending the wrong message that cannabis is as dangerous as heroin or crack making people believe heroin is no big deal when compared to pot which ended up giving a destructive impression to people who do decide to use drugs.
and apparently d.a.r.e has been unsuccessful in stopping drug use and there is evidence that it makes them more likely too.
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