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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #23859900 - 11/23/16 08:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Richard Spencer, the guy speaking in the video, literally claims to have coined the term alt-right--stop with the 'liberal media boo hoo', stop with the 'what about hitlery'--i don't give a fuck about your US partisan politics, and i'm not going to engage you in such a debate over whether the left or the right is to blame for neo-nazis being comfortable giving nazi salutes in public




al gore claimed to have invented the internet



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This post is about discarding the alt-right label (which plays into their hands) and just calling them neo-nazis




yet you keep calling them the alt-right



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it's the part where you said all nazis are racists, you dont know all the
nazis so you cant make that call or maybe you do know all the nazis and can
validate it through your own experiences because you attend all the nazi parties



kinda hard to believe in the superiority of the aryan race without being racist
and kinda hard to be a nazi without believing in the superiority of the aryan race




see, now here you are trying to again affix the label, you're classifying all
nazis as white supremacists without any actual evidence

let's return it

"all libertarians are just liberals claiming to be different"
"all people claiming to be anarchists are just trying to claim to be different from other liberals"


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23859904 - 11/23/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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that liberal hate is still occurring, the media is simply not covering it as much





Then how do you know its occurring?





because I fucking said it


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23859906 - 11/23/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Well it also depends on your definition. Not everyone in the Nazi party in Nazi Germany were racists.


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23859912 - 11/23/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Well it also depends on your definition. Not everyone in the Nazi party in Nazi Germany were racists.





not even the korean or black nazis?


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23859917 - 11/23/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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American conservatives have such a stick up their asses about how insulting it is to call someone a racist that you can't even call the Nazis racists.




from the liberal that claims blacks cant be racist


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Sorry, they are. Nazism is a branch of white supremacist racism, and a very powerful one at that.






from the liberal that claims blacks cant be racist





How did you retrieve such nonsense out of your ass with that stick of conservative outrage up there?

1) I'm not a liberal
2) I have stated very many times that racism goes in all directions.

3) even if I was, which I am not and which you know that I'm not, it still would not invalidate my statement. You throw mud at my reputation to discredit a point I'm making regarding the nature of Nazism. That's an ad hominem fallacy.


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Asante]
    #23859933 - 11/23/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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1) I'm not a liberal





you certainly are


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2) I have stated very many times that racism goes in all directions.





you've pushed the white on black racism narrative more times than any of us care
to remember, you've denied the black on white racism was present even when it;s
clear that it was


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3) even if I was, which I am not and which you know that I'm not, it still would not invalidate my statement. You throw mud at my reputation to discredit a point I'm making regarding the nature of Nazism. That's an ad hominem fallacy.





so being called a liberal is sullying your reputation?


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #23859937 - 11/23/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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see, now here you are trying to again affix the label, you're classifying all
nazis as white supremacists without any actual evidence

let's return it

"all libertarians are just liberals claiming to be different"
"all people claiming to be anarchists are just trying to claim to be different from other liberals"





Prisoner..  Nazism is NOT race neutral. You have white supremacists and black supremacists and asian supremacists but calling a black supremacist a Nazi, is the same as calling a white supremacist a Black Panther.

Does not compute.
Is race-specific word.
Divide by zero.


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23859954 - 11/23/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Pris is being purposefully obstinate. He knows that one of the founding principles of the German nazi party was that Germans were part of the Aryan master race.


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Asante]
    #23859959 - 11/23/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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see, now here you are trying to again affix the label, you're classifying all
nazis as white supremacists without any actual evidence

let's return it

"all libertarians are just liberals claiming to be different"
"all people claiming to be anarchists are just trying to claim to be different from other liberals"





Prisoner..  Nazism is NOT race neutral. You have white supremacists and black supremacists and asian supremacists but calling a black supremacist a Nazi, is the same as calling a white supremacist a Black Panther.

Does not compute.
Is race-specific word.
Divide by zero.






to say that all nazis are racist requires you to know every nazi

do you know every nazi?


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23859971 - 11/23/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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shivas.wisdom said:
This post is about discarding the alt-right label (which plays into their hands) and just calling them neo-nazis




yet you keep calling them the alt-right



because i want to make the association between the alt-right and neo-nazis very clear



The alt-right are neo-nazis.




here's a classic:


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: koods]
    #23859973 - 11/23/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think the media keeps repeating their mantra about the right rising, and people maybe are reacting in fear and thinking 'I better join em rather than be against them'. The media is creating it through their psy op propaganda, tricking people into the nazi frame of mind.

There is nothing to fear from other races. We all share the same enemy, the world system and it's cronies. Throw your tv in the skip/dumpster people. Switch off from their programming. You can know more about what is going on in the world by not exposing yourself to their programming and social engineering on the tv, than you can by watching tv and letting them program the shit out of your subconscious/superconscious mind. The radio is a piece of shit too.

People need to take their minds back.


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23859984 - 11/23/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Asante said:
1) I'm not a liberal





you certainly are




I'm not, I'm a Socialist. Completely different beast.



A worldwide movement that isn't Liberalism or Communism. You should think outside the two compartment box of American politics more often.


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you've pushed the white on black racism narrative more times than any of us care
to remember




Let me define your Us. Your Us are American conservatives with a stick up their ass about black people. The majority of the site doesn't feel that way. I get plenty of PM support from people who ask me to keep fighting the good fight and take the flak for it.

This site has a problem with white-on-black racist sentiments that need to be compensated if one wishes to moderate the sentiments and make the site hospitable for everyone. So if the White American Reactionary Conservative gears are turning faster and faster about what a deplorable people black people are, BANG! I throw a wrench into that diabolical hate machine. A diabolical hate machine that you at times oil and fuel.  So yeah, I do that more than "any of you care to remember".

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so being called a liberal is sullying your reputation?




If you label me a "from the liberal that claims blacks cant be racist" you are deliberately putting a big target on my back for your fellow conservative radicals to attack.

It doesn't sully my reputation to anyone but the rightwing hate machine, but it sure sicks it on me, doesn't it?


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #23859995 - 11/23/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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to say that all nazis are racist requires you to know every nazi






to say that all oranges are citrus fruits requires you to know every orange


No it doesn't.

Oranges are defined by being citrus fruits just like Nazis are defined by being white supremacists.






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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23860004 - 11/23/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Well it also depends on your definition. Not everyone in the Nazi party in Nazi Germany were racists.




Yeah the answer depends on your definition. If that definition is "a member of the Nazi party" then not all Nazis are/were racist. If you define Nazi in such a way that being a racist is a prerequisite, then "all Nazis are racist" becomes vacuously true. There is no need to know all Nazis to verify this (because, by the definition you're applying, anyone who isn't a racist can't possibly be a "real" Nazi).


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Asante]
    #23860005 - 11/23/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Asante is crushing it today


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: psi] * 1
    #23860030 - 11/23/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Well it also depends on your definition. Not everyone in the Nazi party in Nazi Germany were racists.




Yeah the answer depends on your definition. If that definition is "a member of the Nazi party" then not all Nazis are racist. If you define Nazi in such a way that being a racist is a prerequisite, then "all Nazis are racist" becomes vacuously true. There is no need to know all Nazis to verify this (because, by the definition you're applying, anyone who isn't a racist can't possibly be a "real" Nazi).




During the war, in Germany, people joined the nazi party because It was dangerous not to. These people may have not been racist because their nazi membership wasn't necessarily based on ideology. Anyone who identifies as a nazi now is a racist.

This entire debate is ridiculous. Pris' argument doesn't have any merit because it's not an argument, it's trolling.


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: wicca mixer]
    #23860031 - 11/23/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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People need to take their minds back.




I can agree with this. While I'm happy to see alot of people have rejected mainstream media I think obsession over media is at an all time high.

It's not even being spoonfed at this point, even if the particular source may vary, people are eating right out of the palms of their hands.

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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: psi]
    #23860032 - 11/23/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:

to say that all nazis are racist requires you to know every nazi






to say that all oranges are citrus fruits requires you to know every orange


No it doesn't.

Oranges are defined by being citrus fruits just like Nazis are defined by being white supremacists.








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Well it also depends on your definition. Not everyone in the Nazi party in Nazi Germany were racists.




Yeah the answer depends on your definition. If that definition is "a member of the Nazi party" then not all Nazis are/were racist. If you define Nazi in such a way that being a racist is a prerequisite, then "all Nazis are racist" becomes vacuously true. There is no need to know all Nazis to verify this (because, by the definition you're applying, anyone who isn't a racist can't possibly be a "real" Nazi).




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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Asante]
    #23860050 - 11/23/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Asante said:
1) I'm not a liberal





you certainly are




I'm not, I'm a Socialist. Completely different beast.




not really, same school with different teachers



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you've pushed the white on black racism narrative more times than any of us care
to remember




Let me define your Us. Your Us are American conservatives with a stick up their ass about black people. The majority of the site doesn't feel that way. I get plenty of PM support from people who ask me to keep fighting the good fight and take the flak for it.




I get the same thing

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This site has a problem with white-on-black racist sentiments that need to be compensated if one wishes to moderate the sentiments and make the site hospitable for everyone. So if the White American Reactionary Conservative gears are turning faster and faster about what a deplorable people black people are, BANG! I throw a wrench into that diabolical hate machine. A diabolical hate machine that you at times oil and fuel.  So yeah, I do that more than "any of you care to remember".





and the site gets plenty of anti white, anti muslim, anti-what the fuck ever
sentiment, the one that goes unaddressed is the anti white sentiment with liberals
saying things such as 'oh, your poor white privilege' which in it's self is racist

you see one side of the picture, try opening both eyes and taking it all in
sometime, you ignore the anti white racism and promote your own racist view


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so being called a liberal is sullying your reputation?




If you label me a "from the liberal that claims blacks cant be racist" you are deliberately putting a big target on my back for your fellow conservative radicals to attack.




:justinwilson:



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It doesn't sully my reputation to anyone but the rightwing hate machine, but it sure sicks it on me, doesn't it?





again, half the picture


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Asante]
    #23860063 - 11/23/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:

to say that all nazis are racist requires you to know every nazi






to say that all oranges are citrus fruits requires you to know every orange


No it doesn't.

Oranges are defined by being citrus fruits just like Nazis are defined by being white supremacists.





can you tell me the socio-economic standing of an orange, maybe you can tell us
it's political ideology, I bet you could tell us about how the oranges hate black
people as well

thanks for your interjection of ridiculousness, an orange cannot make a choice


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