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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #23857558 - 11/22/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've made comparisons from Trump to Hitler many a times.

That being said, America did not fight world war two for race equality, we did not intervene because Hitler was killing blacks, Hispanics or other racial groups; we intervened because it disturbed the balance of power in the world- that and because we knew we could win.

Nazism and Racism are not one in the same, though the similarities are striking.


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: TNK] * 2
    #23857588 - 11/22/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

not all  racists are nazis
but all nazis are racists


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #23857594 - 11/22/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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not all  racists are nazis
but all nazis are racists



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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Crystal G]
    #23857614 - 11/22/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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This is what happens when you force PC nonsense down the throats of Americans for 30 years.

This is what happens when you leave your borders open for 30 years despite the fact Americans wanted them closed.

This is what happens when the MSM attacks your demographic non-stop as being racist/sexist and xenophobic.

This is what happens when a US President constantly lectures the majority on horrible their history, heritage and current status is because they're bigots.

This is what happens when a US President invites a racist/terrorist group (BLM) into the White House every two weeks as dozens of US cities are having riots started by this very group.

This is called the backlash. When moderate people like myself warned liberals to stop pushing people to the limit with their extreme and threatening behavior, we were told to shut up. 

Take a look at what has happened to Germany in the last 3 years after they allowed 2 million illegal Africans and Muslims to live in their homeland, it's called a backlash.




lol. These groups and movements have existed long before the PC movement.

Jeez this thread is funny. From people saying that these groups are "fabrications of the liberal media" :ilold:, to people saying this is all the left's doing... will the right stop at nothing to blame literally everything for the left? :lol: They even blame their own people for the left! Outrageous!




Yes, these movements have existed in the shadows for a long time, but that doesn't change the fact that they're growing into mainstream political movements here in the US and around the globe.

"blame literally everything for the left?"

Unfortunately, the liberal agenda got hijacked by the loony left over 20 years ago and created this backlash, now the right is getting taken over by the far right.


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #23857624 - 11/22/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Cheers for the good punk in this thread. Totally agree with you that there will be lots of new angry youths making music. With any luck, it's going to be the Regan-era of punk music all over again.



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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: qman] * 4
    #23857629 - 11/22/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Bullshit.

You fucking know how not all Trump supporters can be put in the Nazi camp?

Guess fucking what, not everyone who is "left" or voted "left" is down with all the idiotic PC movements and such; there are lots of different levels to either party but to assume that anyone who is left is down with every left idea is akin to saying all trump supporters are down with killing blacks.

Smh.


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: TNK] * 1
    #23857640 - 11/22/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Bullshit.

You fucking know how not all Trump supporters can be put in the Nazi camp?

Guess fucking what, not everyone who is "left" or voted "left" is down with all the idiotic PC movements and such; there are lots of different levels to either party but to assume that anyone who is left is down with every left idea is akin to saying all trump supporters are down with killing blacks.

Smh.




Nobody was making those assumptions other than you.


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: qman] * 3
    #23857647 - 11/22/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm surprised nobody has come in here yet and tried to claim that these people are actually liberals framing Trump supporters to make them look bad.


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Crystal G]
    #23857681 - 11/22/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:laugh2:


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Kilgore Trout]
    #23857691 - 11/22/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Cheers for the good punk in this thread. Totally agree with you that there will be lots of new angry youths making music. With any luck, it's going to be the Regan-era of punk music all over again.



Hahaha glad someone's on the same page as me--great addition--let's make this the fuck neo-nazis songs thread!




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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: TNK]
    #23857721 - 11/22/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I've made comparisons from Trump to Hitler many a times.

That being said, America did not fight world war two for race equality, we did not intervene because Hitler was killing blacks, Hispanics or other racial groups; we intervened because it disturbed the balance of power in the world- that and because we knew we could win.

Nazism and Racism are not one in the same, though the similarities are striking.




I've heard how historians are mostly alcoholics... Because they see the same shit happening that has always happened.

People aren't ready for a real change, and until they, we, are the dominos are going to keep stacking the way they always have and we will be "forced" to make the same mistakes we have in the past.


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #23857816 - 11/22/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think historians are alcoholics because theyre mostly unemployed and buried in student loans


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23857817 - 11/22/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Musicians too


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: koods]
    #23857842 - 11/22/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That probably does account for alot of it.


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: koods]
    #23857855 - 11/22/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Musicians too




Having student loans as a musician is a prime indicator of defective genetics :lol:

I guess it depends where you live though, most of the people i know who were serious about performing, get by performing.


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23857885 - 11/22/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I feel there's probably a similar concept to insider/outsider art found in music.

I have a couple friends with music degrees, and both of them are interested in composing. I feel having that degree will help one be accepted in the classical music world, much to the same that having an arts degree will help one in getting a gallery show.

As for me, a hundred bucks and some free drinks, and I'll play in the bar all night.



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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #23857991 - 11/22/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Its kind of true for classical musicians, big subject though and not really worth the time to flushout here since none of us are doing that.

Otherwise its a waste of time and money, especially with jazz, i know people coming out 60k in debt from "prestigious" conservatories who still use chord charts. For a jazz musician thats really bad, you should be picking up the harmony by ear.

For me with a mostly Indian Classical background, you go through tutors. Universities exist but its a contentious subject and i side with thr deinstitutionalisation camp.


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23858011 - 11/22/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The only reason I would want the institution to remain, is so I can continue to enjoy my outsider status.


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #23858035 - 11/22/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Trump 2016 - 2040


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Re: Heil Trump! Heil our people! Heil victory! [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #23858038 - 11/22/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:lol:

Yeah i definitely dont enjoy the luxury of inclusion

I love listening to Indian Classical, European Classical and Jazz, but those genres are very much relics of the past. I couldnt stick with one and had to work on putting something else together entirely, 10yrs later im near about done :cookiemonster:

Are you planning on performing during your next trip?


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