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TV size matters for Gaming?
    #23855782 - 11/21/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Back when I used to play halo, i would always do SO much better on smaller screens, even though i felt like I could play better on 42"+, it was nearly never the case.

My accuracy would be off, my reaction time seemed a lot slower, sniping would be impossible....


So, I am about to go buy a TV for my ps4 but I'm wondering...should I go with like a 22" screen for FPS and smite?


Does anyone else notice this? That FPS and games which require accuracy and reaction time play shittier on bigger TVs or is it just me?


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: hTx] * 1
    #23855789 - 11/21/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Probably just you. Increase sensitivity if you need to


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: Soluminia]
    #23855801 - 11/21/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

playing FPS on a console? :horrified:


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: Adolin]
    #23855813 - 11/21/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Smaller screens=Faster response time and less lag. That's why fps pros play on their "official 24 in. Moniters". It's probably minimal though I bet some people could do better on a big screen just because of preference


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: hTx]
    #23855820 - 11/21/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

On a larger screen you see more detail and the distance you expect to need to travel as per your eye-hand coordination is different. Basically I'd say it has to do with more distraction and what you're used to.


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: hTx]
    #23855822 - 11/21/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I play on a 70 inch and do just fine :shrug:


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: Adolin]
    #23855823 - 11/21/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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playing FPS on a console? :horrified:



overwatch plays nicely on ps4


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23855828 - 11/21/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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On a larger screen you see more detail and the distance you expect to need to travel as per your eye-hand coordination is different. Basically I'd say it has to do with more distraction and what you're used to.



your may be right,as i do have a pretty severe case of ADD..


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: hTx] * 2
    #23856006 - 11/21/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Your problem has more to do with playing on a TV and console than anything else. TVs, especially larger ones tend to have a shitload of input lag and which definitely effects FPS type games.
Playing with a controller doesn't help either :smirk:
But really it's mostly the input lag that will hurt you the most, some TVs it's not uncommon for input lag over 50-120ms...(which is horrendous.. we are talking a half second+ delay from the time you hit a button until the time it registers on screen)..  as opposed to a gaming monitor where it will be 5ms or under..most 'gaming monitors' these days have a 2ms or 3ms input lag. Whereas the BEST TV on the market you will get maybe 15-20ms. Not a huge difference, but noticeable enough.. and that's the BEST case scenario.. most TVs have far worse input lag. It varies from TV to TV, but most TVs aren't made with twitch gaming in mind, they focus more on post-processing effects for theater and shit - and input lag suffers greatly as a result. Likely the smaller TV you played on had less input lag.

TL;DR: It's not the size that matters. It's the input lag of the TV.... mostly. Lucky for you.. most TVs don't publish their input lag in the specs!!
Then also lucky for you there is these people which did all the hard work and found the lowest input lag HDTVs - http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/input-lag

Or just avoid all that nonsense and buy a monitor, which is superior for gaming.


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: Shroomism]
    #23856070 - 11/22/16 12:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:cool:


i figured there was definitely some input lag, i can sense it for sure and have to compensate on different TVs...makes sense that larger TVs will have greater input lag.

And, I don't know, I love PC and all, but I feel things are a bit more fair with consoles, at-least everyone is on the same level, frames per second/hardware wise.


And can you play with a mouse keyboard combination on console?


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: hTx]
    #23856083 - 11/22/16 12:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm sure it's probably technically feasible for some games but I wouldn't know anything about that :cool:
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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: Shroomism]
    #23856098 - 11/22/16 12:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

For single player, small screens are great. You really don't need much...

But you know for that super epic party where you do splitscreen you might want 30 or more inches haha


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: hTx]
    #23856106 - 11/22/16 12:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Look for a TV with a fast refresh rate like 120hz. should help.

Probably just a placebo effect or having a smaller screen to concentrate on :shrug:


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23856115 - 11/22/16 01:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I usually play on a TV. but if I'm getting competitive I will play on a monitor and tend to do a little better. I switch back and forth though if I notice my self not doing as good and just the switch will help improve my game


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    #23856116 - 11/22/16 01:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: ruaware]
    #23856152 - 11/22/16 01:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Smaller screens are what i think is best for competitive gaming. Between 22 and 24 inches.


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: ak47myth]
    #23856366 - 11/22/16 06:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah the smaller the better for halo at least. I think part of it is you dont have to use your peripherals at all. everything you need to react to is directly in your line of sight.


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23856387 - 11/22/16 07:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've got a 24" and 42" screen, I like the larger one because it's colour rendition and contrast is better than the little one, but with the little one, I can "see" more at one time.

I've put it down to with the little one I don't have to flick my eyes around as much as with the larger one. I'm about 3' away from my screens, sat on a desk. The only FPS I play competatively is Titanfall and some of the time, I do bother to make it so my little screen is the primary, but otherwise, I'm happy with a big screen.


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #23856514 - 11/22/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I wish people could talk about gaming on a console without someone always feeling the need to bring PCs into the conversation. I play both, and consoles definitely have their place.


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: Eminence]
    #23856579 - 11/22/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

i agree.

Cant consoles and computer gamers get along without War?


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23856830 - 11/22/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hey, you guys, I'm not bashing on consoles. I have a ps3 for red dead, katamari and gran turismo. I just really like strategy games like cities skylines or stellaris, and it just so happens my computer doubles up as a work tool as well.

But we were talking about screens for FPS games, and I think it's due to less eyetravel, which is good for twichy, fast movement FPS games. I used to play a lot of unreal tournament and a small screen is good for that.

Oh gosh, sometimes I wish I had my old CRT. It weighed a ton but I miss those buttery smooth 300FPS days of unreal tournament.


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #23856900 - 11/22/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)



I have a sony triniton television, only inputs are AV/scart, but there's black and white shows that look better on it, and I do remember years ago seeing stuff looping at 100+ FPS and remembering it looked damn near mesmerising.


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #23856995 - 11/22/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

SIZE ALWAYS MATTERS!


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: Patlal]
    #23857052 - 11/22/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Agreed.

I'm currently usiing my TV as a monitor and it works fine. Just had to fiddle with the settings.

You guys are silly.


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23857258 - 11/22/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I always enjoyed playing Halo and such games back in the day on my 32 inch.  Any time I went to a friends place and played on anything bigger than a 40 in I struggled a bit.  Maybe if I always played on a larger screen I would be fine, but seemed to spread out for me.


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23858613 - 11/22/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I wish people could talk about gaming on a console without someone always feeling the need to bring PCs into the conversation. I play both, and consoles definitely have their place.




Sorry, I have to. It's part of my job requirement. Here it was just done in jest and passing :wink:
I appreciate consoles too. I grew up on Nintendo and Sega so classic consoles will always have a place in mah heart. It's just for fun man :smile:

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Agreed.

I'm currently usiing my TV as a monitor and it works fine. Just had to fiddle with the settings.

You guys are silly.




Yeah for most people. He's talking about twitch gaming (FPS) where split seconds make a big difference, games where reaction speed and accuracy make or break it
Input lag from TVs is a real concern there and is probably what his problem was compared to the smaller monitor.
It's why competitive gamers don't play on TVs. Yeah the average person playing Hello Kitty Island adventure isn't going to notice or be affected by a 50ms response time, but someone playing CS GO will for sure.
Granted it's gotten better with modern TVs and if you have a Sony or Samsung chances are good it has a better response time than most, but it's still not as good as a IPS or TN monitor for that purpose. That's all I'm saying.


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: Shroomism]
    #23858655 - 11/22/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

But have you played Call of Kitty: Advanced Hello Warfare?


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23858661 - 11/22/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think I missed that one... I'll have to check it out.. is it on Steam?


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: Shroomism]
    #23858667 - 11/22/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Its only available on the Deep Web download :wink:


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: hTx]
    #23858722 - 11/22/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

just Googled "tv input lag" and found this at CNET: https://www.cnet.com/news/best-low-lag-hdtvs-for-serious-gamers/

CNET is legit and one of my favorite websites ever.


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Re: TV size matters for Gaming? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23858763 - 11/22/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I guess. I'm used to MSlag so I suppose I'd blame it the net without realizing some of it could be the TV.


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