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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: west coast hunt]
    #23855600 - 11/21/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Eating them is a poor way to test them, your confirmation bias precludes an objective answer


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: west coast hunt]
    #23855671 - 11/21/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the advice guys. I didnt know some toxins arent water soluble, makes sense, I just didnt know that. I will make a tea, add some lemon juice, drink it, and repeat until I am confident there are no water solubles left in the shrooms.

But before I do all that, I will wait for the next flush, get better pics of them in daylight, and pick more, because I have an unusually high tolerance to hallucinogens and I want to make sure I am having a real psychedelic experience, not placebo effect.

For the record, placebo has never happened to me, even when I was in a room full of people frying on acid or mescaline, when others in the room were having allegedly "contact high." To explain what I mean by my hallucinogen tolerance, my first time ever doing ecstacy, my friends all ate one purple nike, so I ate one, and they were rolling tits but I felt nothing. I wanted to take a second one but my friends were rolling so hard they thought I would overdose if I took 2. So an hour later, still not feeling anything, I ate a second one and drank some OJ and finally started to roll. Every time I've eaten cubensis, 3.5 grams to my friends is like 4 or 5 grams to me, and even then I only had slight visuals, never CEV's. Another time I ate 5 Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds with no effect. I later gave my friend 5 of the same seeds cuz I wanted to know if I got ripped off, and he said he fried like he was on acid. So those have been my experiences, and I really dont know what to expect from these shrooms but I'm willing to try them.


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #23855676 - 11/21/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Eating them is a poor way to test them, your confirmation bias precludes an objective answer




You're right, it is a poor test lol. It can easily be biased either way. I still want to try them.

Does anyone know another way to test for psilocybin? A lab I could send samples to or something?


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: greenthumz]
    #23855680 - 11/21/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

some drug testing kit im sure. Marqis or something.


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: greenthumz] * 1
    #23855685 - 11/21/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

PM Alan Rockefeller, he could put you in touch with the right people for sure


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #23855690 - 11/21/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

For real? Thanks doctorghosty.

I PM'd John Allen on facebook but he hasnt replied.


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: greenthumz]
    #23855697 - 11/21/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah man, Rockefeller is the real deal, he'll shoot you straight

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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #23855708 - 11/21/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Cool thanks, I PM'd him


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: greenthumz]
    #23855853 - 11/21/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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^ exactly. But Stropharia do not have pellicles. This mushroom does, therefore making it a Psilocybe.




I wasn't implying this mushroom was a Stropharia, because I am certain it is Deconica.


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: Ran-D]
    #23856191 - 11/22/16 02:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If they were a psilocybe id guess psilocybe quebecensis. Not a lot of good pics of the species to reference. From what I've seen and understand they're alot like azzies or serbica but smaller and capable of having a rather dark stem in varying degrees.

Cool find whatever the case.


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: greenthumz] * 1
    #23857183 - 11/22/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't really know but maybe they are Psilocybe washingtonensis

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The cap is obtusely conic to convex, and does not expand to become flattened with age; it reaches 1–2 cm (0.4–0.8 in) in diameter. Its margin is bent in slightly at first but soon straightens. The cap surface is smooth except for a faint fringe at the margin from a rudimentary veil, sticky, hygrophanous but opaque when moist, deep brown in the center and somewhat darker brown near the margin. As the mushroom matures, it fades slowly in the center to a dull cinnamon color. The pellicle rips into shreds when peeled. The pliant flesh is thin, 2 mm in the center of the cap and tapered evenly to the margin. The cap surface is covered with grayish fibrils; underneath the fibrils the color is initially the same as the cap, but becomes blackish-brown in age at the base or over lower parts. The gills are slightly darker than the cap in color, broadly adnate, but develop a slight decurrent tooth in age (when the gill separates slightly from the stem). The gills are broad (about 3 mm), with a close to subdistant spacing. Roughly 24 gills reach the cap edge from the stem; there are additionally 2 or three tiers of lamellulae—short gills that do not extend completely from the stem to the cap edge. The stem is 3 to 5 cm (1.2 to 2.0 in) long by 1.5–2.5 mm thick, and equal in width throughout its length. It is attached to its substrate (wood or sticks) by a grayish mat of mycelium.[2] It is not known if the mushroom contains psychoactive compounds like psilocybin or psilocin.[4]

The spore print is purple-brown. The spores are ellipsoid to slightly egg-shaped, smooth, and measure 6.3–7.5 by 3.8–4.5 μm. The spores have an apical pore, but it is small and inconspicuous. The basidia (spore-bearing cells) are four-spored, narrowly club-shaped to somewhat cylindrical, and measure 18–24 by 5–6 μm. P. washingtonensis has scattered to abundant pleurocystidia (cystidia on the gill face) that typically measure 38–56 by 9–12 μm. There are two forms of cheilocystidia (cystidia in the gill edge): one is fusoid-ventricose (distinctly enlarged in the middle and tapered toward both ends) with blunt to somewhat sharp apices, often covered with mucilage, and measures 26–38 by 7–11 μm; the other is broadly club-shaped to capitate (with a distinct spherical tip), and measures 26 by 10–12 μm.[2]





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_washingtonensis

Do you own a microscope OP?


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #23857196 - 11/22/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Maynard, the first sentence or two of that description says the caps do not flatten with age....have you looked at OPs pics?


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: Hammer92]
    #23857218 - 11/22/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

i would argue that all psilocybes flatten over time. Lots of evidence to support this.


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: Hammer92]
    #23857220 - 11/22/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yes I have looked at his photos. Not matching one characteristic doesn't completely rule out the possibility...
as an example I have seen fully mature Psilocybe cyanescens that do not get wavy when fully mature and Stropharia rugosoannulata they don't in any way have reddish caps.

I'm not sure exactly how many times P. washingtonensis has been found but it's vary rare as far as I know.


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23857652 - 11/22/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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i would argue that all psilocybes flatten over time. Lots of evidence to support this.




also strong evidence to refute it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_weraroa


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    #23857695 - 11/22/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You're link is bad and you should feel bad


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23857923 - 11/22/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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i would argue that all psilocybes flatten over time. Lots of evidence to support this.



Dont see many flat liberty caps i have to say


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #23857926 - 11/22/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Either way that's cool man I've never heard of washingtonensis thanks for bringin that up


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: Mattisfat]
    #23857934 - 11/22/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ive seen some in a thread on Shroomery, just a week ago, libs with flat caps.


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Re: New Psilocybe species??? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #23858135 - 11/22/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You're link is bad and you should feel bad




Your grammar is incorrect and you should feel bad :lol:

Link fixed.


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