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Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous
    #23853292 - 11/21/16 04:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

So I'd planned to have one last trip before taking a lengthy break from psychs, I'd ordered a case of n2o for the night because I know how phenomenal it can be.
I meditated into the first hour or so of the comeup.

Then I made the mistake of checking my phone, found out some pretty bad news, which shook me into a state of anxiety.
I tried to ride it out into the peak, and I felt on edge but I felt as though I was handling myself fairly well, and the trip wasn't negative (nor particularly positive) at this point, so I figured I'd hit a balloon and see where it took me, maybe kick start the trip into something overwhelmingly euphoric like nitrous often does.

I inhaled the balloon, and, the fabric of reality was ripped apart around me by geometric shapes, tetrahedron like structures, which suddenly replaced reality with vast darkness.
I was now traversing through some kind of hyperspace void, amongst the empty darkness were gigantic structures made of of tetrahedrons interconnected with pillars, which looked somewhat similar to untextured CGI (Before they've textured or coloured 3d models)
These structures were arranged in a self repeating pattern to infinity and I was lost in this void flying among them.
Then a feeling of looming malevolence or evil, cold dark terror and the feeling of something unimaginably cold, devoid of life, soul, and just pure evil existing out there in the void, a feeling I've never felt before and never want to feel again.

I came back to reality with a feeling of... Hmm.. well, that was intense, and a bit scary...
But obviously decided to hit another balloon, thinking that "Well, that was a weird one, the next one will be good...."
The next one was even more terrifying.
It sent me right back to the horrible hyperspace void with the feeling of emptiness and horror, but this time the strange self repeating structures had taken on an appearance of pure evil, they'd ripped apart the fabric of reality to come and get me. As I started coming back to reality there was a ringing in my right ear and my body felt odd, I felt the need to physically jump off my sofa and run to the other room to try and escape these extradimensional hell entities and shake off their tear in the fabric of reality, or whatever...

I was so thankful to be back in the physical realm, but I was unsettled by how 'real' the experience was, is this really what lies beyond the veil of our perception?

I gave it another hour until I'd calmed down, and I was determined to go back into nitrous space to try and salvage something out of the trip.
I was in a much more positive frame of mind at this point, and the next few balloons I did were incredily positive, like usual,  it felt like 'dimension hopping', and every time I'd go to crazy beautiful worlds and return to a world similar to my own but with a slight difference (in the way the visuals were playing out after coming out of n2o space)

One balloon sent me back to the evil dimension, and I had to get up and run to shake it off again, at this point I came up with some weird theory that nitrous is some kind of key to transport you into alternate parallel realities, and the one you land in, you stay in..
Like sort of playing russian roulette, you could end up in some blissful heaven and land back in a reality that continues that theme into every day non-trippy life, or you could end up in a terrible place, and then you'd come back to some horrible existence here on earth...

I had about 4 whippets left at this point, so I figured, I'll only go down to the last 2, and I'll save them just in case I need to escape another hell reality.

I got down to the last 2, ended up in a beautiful universe, but of course wanted to hit more n2o...

Luckily, the last one was decent, landed back in a nice comfortable universe...


Anyway, yeah, sorry for the rambling.
Had some pretty intense experiences last night.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #23853302 - 11/21/16 04:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That's cool! So like, when you hit the nitrous, it was like a dmt trip? Sorry you had to experience those hellish dimensions, but I'm glad you got to experience some of the good worlds. Thanks for sharing!


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: Kinshino]
    #23853321 - 11/21/16 05:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, have you tried nitrous on acid?
I've tried DMT but never broken through, but acid+n2o is what I'd imagine it to be like.
It's usually always overwhelmingly blissful and positive though.

Unfortunately, (or fortunately in my case last night) it's incredibly short lived, so, you're pretty much back as soon as you left.

I can't imagine spending any more time in those dark realms, it made any bad trips I've had up to now seem beautiful.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #23853358 - 11/21/16 06:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ive had really good trips with nitrous. I always end up doing most of what I buy before I have the chance to trip though.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: LSDollar]
    #23853419 - 11/21/16 07:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Nope, I've never gotten into whippets. I want to, though. What are the best ones to buy? And you just crack them into a regular balloon?


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: Kinshino]
    #23853683 - 11/21/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah buy some whippits a nitrous cracker and some punch balloons and whenever you do a hit exhale it back in the balloon to hit again, i always get two or three rips from a single balloon cause i dont think your lungs get all the nitrous from the first lungful


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #23853804 - 11/21/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I just keep breathing into the balloon until I'm blasted off and no longer capable of holding a balloon.
I *think* it's safe, because obviously you can hold your breath for longer than that with no ill effect.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #23853807 - 11/21/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Spooked me just reading it typtofan I can relate and I've had similar experiences with demons and even the devil.

One time I rememeber them telling me that what I was seeing (and had once driven me insane) was some sort of evil computer program that was spining around in space or the universe that had infected me like a computer virus!

Dont even know why I would ever risk seeing such things again to be honest because when you experience things like that, its as if you are finally seeing past the bullshit mask and painted smile that suckered you in, in the first place, and in actuality behind all the mesemizing circus tricks and eye candy there is only the hideous and sadistic mocking grin of pennywise the clown.

I rememeber how the rainbow colors of the psychedlic experience seemed to be venemous and contrasted so terribly and jarringly with the rotten, putrid, ugliness of the experience that it was like being in a childrens hospital with happy cartoons and bunny rabbits painted upon the walls when in fact all around the little ones lay suffering and dying.

Well I really cheered myself up!

Remember tryptofan you participated in the discussion about demons just recently? You think maybe that it may have exerted some kind of a subconcious influence? Seems like a pretty demonic experience!


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: wolf8312]
    #23853848 - 11/21/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Just sounds like you were breaking through the portal, which can be done with just meditation by itself with years of practice, and especially when you meditate on psychs.

You were scared because you were experiencing your true frame of mind, which had a little subconscious anxiety in it from the text. You had expectations, you were expecting a euphoric, enjoyable time, instead you got what the LSD and nitrous combo wanted to show you; a breakthrough; manifestation of the subconscious/shadow mind

You should be able to break through the portal with 200ug no tolerance and 1-2 hrs of meditation.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: wolf8312]
    #23853869 - 11/21/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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One time I rememeber them telling me that what I was seeing (and had once driven me insane) was some sort of evil computer program that was spining around in space or universe that had  infected me like a computer virus!






Have you heard of John C Lilly?
He invented the sensory depravation tank and used to dose up on LSD and ketamine, and reported encountering extra terrestrial entites called the Solid State Intelligence, an evil artificial intelligence that was targeting humanity for a takeover through technology.....

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Later on, as the frequency of his use on K increased, Dr. Lilly began having contact with another alien intelligence agency, which he called (SSI), short for Solid State Intelligence. SSI was a supercomputer-like entity, much in the same techno-mystical vein as Philip K. Dick's VALIS. But unlike VALIS, SSI was of a malevolent nature, at odds with ECCO. SSI's apparent goal was to conquer and dominate all biological life forms on Earth. To combat SSI, ECCO enlisted Lilly in this archetypal battle of good against evil, charging him with the mission of alerting the world at large to these solid state beings of evil intent. To further confirm the dual existences of these two opposing alien intelligence networks, Lilly was given a sign, and message, in the autumn of 1974. Flying into Los Angeles International Airport (LAX), Dr. Lilly saw the comet Kahoutek out of the southern sky. Momentarily the comet grew brighter. At this point a message was laser-beamed into Lilly's mind, which said: "We are Solid State Intelligence and we are going to demonstrate our power by shutting down all solid state equipment to LAX."

Dr. Lilly shared his foreboding message with his wife Toni, who was seated next to him. A few minutes later, the pilot instructed the passengers that they were being diverted to Burbank due to a plane that had crash-landed near the runway and had knocked down power lines, causing a power failure at the airport.

As his haphazard use of K intensified, so did the warnings of imminent dangers regarding the survival of mankind, provided by ECCO via 3D Technicolor images beamed into Lilly's mind. These visions were of an apocalyptic nature; scenes of nuclear annihilation seen from an alien's eye view in outer space. The world powers needed to be alerted of this impending tragedy immediately to enable them to avert widespread global devastation, ECCO instructed, or it would be too late. I find it interesting that ECCO's message to Dr. Lilly was much the same as those delivered to the early saucer contactees: our planet was on a collision course toward destruction; all atomic weapons must be dismantled if our planet was ever going to have a chance of surviving in the future. The only difference was that the enemy was us, not "them." Nevertheless, rampant technological progress was to blame for the sorry state of the planet, regardless if it was being facilitated by alien intelligences, or humans.

After three weeks of hourly K injections, Lilly decided that he would travel to the east coast to warn political leaders and members of the media of the threat posed by SSI. In New York, he phoned the White House to warn then President Gerald Ford about "a danger to the human race involving atomic energy and computers." A White House aide fielded the call and, although quite aware, of Dr. Lilly's impressive credentials, was not convinced of the urgency of the matter, and informed him that the President was unavailable.





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Remember tryptofan you participated in the discussion about demons just recently? You think maybe that it may have exerted some kind of a subconcious influence? Seems like a pretty demonic experience!




I've encountered demons before on psychedelics,  whatever was out there in that void made demons look like little pussy bitches.
The feeling alone, pure hollow emptiness, felt like I was physically being strangled too. :/


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #23854000 - 11/21/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Had not ever heard of that dude no! But reading that story should help with my own paranoid delusions! :lol:

You mean that if you'd seen demons you would have at least seen something as oppose to nothingness?

Salvia was probably the most horrific thing I ever saw in that sense and that's something I would never do again!

With salvia though it was really more a horrific metallic industrial factory vibe/feeling devoid of any atheistic energy whatsoever, just a soulless wasteland in which I was a metal inanimate object without any significance at all.

Haven't had that much experience with the void though sounds like the nitrous!


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #23854035 - 11/21/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Dude, that is quite interesting what you are saying here. I got to tell you something.

The first time I tried nitrous, I didn't take it that far.
The second time I kept getting the 'message' or idea that I should NOT be tripping on this. It took me quite some 'trips' before I actually remembered this message in my waking reality. You tend to forget what you just experienced, if it was anything at all.
The third time, and now my last I hope, I hold my breath with nitrous quite long. I think I kept it for too long. All I remember was that things got black and dark, very emotionally dark and sinister. First of all I felt like I was in my own universe, but second of all I felt an extreme evil was. When I got back I felt I got back out of hell and decided I really should never use nitrous again.

Now, that night after that third trip I began dreaming that I was 'hopping' different realities, like you said. The realities were laid out in such a way that made it look like a some sort of pattern. Moreover, some realities were less 'firm', as if they were fading out of reality; or weren't in the attention of our mass consciousness, or so I presume. The dream scared me quite a bit. Later on in the dream I also felt as if I was experiencing multiple timelines/realities at the same time. Like I would come across some choice, and I'd be experiencing both realities having made other choices at the same time.

Truth be told, my last ayahuasca trip I feel like I hopped on to a more positive reality/timeline. Even though I have no clear evidence that that might be the case.

Hope that may help.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: lovuasca]
    #23854109 - 11/21/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

One time I snorted 40mg of 4-ACO-DMT and did a few balloons at the peak. My entire field of vision shrank down and multiplied about 100x. Now I can safely say I know what it's like to be a fly..


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: lovuasca]
    #23854210 - 11/21/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Now, that night after that third trip I began dreaming that I was 'hopping' different realities, like you said. The realities were laid out in such a way that made it look like a some sort of pattern. Moreover, some realities were less 'firm', as if they were fading out of reality; or weren't in the attention of our mass consciousness, or so I presume. The dream scared me quite a bit. Later on in the dream I also felt as if I was experiencing multiple timelines/realities at the same time. Like I would come across some choice, and I'd be experiencing both realities having made other choices at the same time.





I've had very similar experiences on previous (good) LSD+nitrous trips.
Feeling like I'm experiencing several different parallel realities/timelines before I come back to the one I'm in.
The strangest thing is that it made me question the linearity of time, as I'd experience these parallel realities in rapid succesion, and the same or similar thing would happen throughout all of them, and then would happen again once I returned to this stable reality. (such as a friend in the room saying something) Like being shot through several layers.

LSD+Nitrous seems infinite in possibilites, and it's something I'd definitely like to try again despite my terror last night.

I'd love to make a full thread/trip report about some of the other utterly astounding things I've experienced on it, but there's so much to write about.

The true nature of reality, whatever it may be, I feel is far too infinitely strange to ever figure out.
I just hope that horrible void hyperspace I experienced isn't the one 'true' underlying reality...


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #23854291 - 11/21/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Jesus, I don't know if I want to try nitrous now; I didn't know you could blast off that far...
Are these hellish realms common on nitrous+Entheogens?


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #23854325 - 11/21/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The true nature of reality, whatever it may be, I feel is far too infinitely strange to ever figure out.
I just hope that horrible void hyperspace I experienced isn't the one 'true' underlying reality...




Yeah, I feel you. I was thinking exactly the same thing after I came down from that last 'evil' nitro 'trip'. My thoughts exactly. I certainly hope not as well.
But I'm afraid it is at least part of our reality. But on a more philosophical note, it wouldn't help to linger on the negative for an eternity. I'm sure we, in our infiniteness, if we were ever to life in such a hyperspace, would have the option to do so in love and joy.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: Kinshino]
    #23854336 - 11/21/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Jesus, I don't know if I want to try nitrous now; I didn't know you could blast off that far...
Are these hellish realms common on nitrous+Entheogens?




I've done the combo many times, and it's usually incredibly positive and blissful, absolute crazy shit that will completely blow your mind and make you question reality but in a good way.


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    #23854364 - 11/21/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've tried to draw a picture, in paint, haha.

It doesn't do it justice at all, the structures were way more complex and stretched out infinitely into space, and I can't express the hollow emptiness of the place in a picture.
Also the second time the structures seemed to have hellish contorted faces or personas as such, but I'm not even gonna try...

The coloured hexagon type things were the way the place cracked open and seemed to leak through reality until it replaced my entire field of vision and I left my body and was there....



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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #23854411 - 11/21/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

A 1L dispenser, and a few cases of chargers, and couple punching balloons always did wonders for me.


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    #23856409 - 11/22/16 07:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Whippets always cancel out fear and anxiety while tripping.

Ive never gone to hyperspace on nitrous despite going through a whole box on shrooms and almost a whole box on LSD. weird.

If you buy a dispencer you domt need balloons. Only if you buy a cracker.

A dispenser has a place for the air to expand before tou inhaile it. A cracker needs a balloon ir something for the gas to expand or you will freeze your lungs off.

But dispensers are good to go even though lots of people argue. I never use a balloon with my dispenser but people tell me i will freeze my throat and lungs. Its sinpley nit true dont waste your time, with balloms unless you get a cracker.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23856415 - 11/22/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

makes me want to try L and dxm together more now I wonder if I could get a longer breakthrough than with no2


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: psilly the kid]
    #23856423 - 11/22/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

DXM makes you retarded.

There are countless people who report feeling stupid after taking or abusing DXM.

If you have access to LSD and nitrous i say take that.

For me nitrous is am instant escape from a rough spot in a trip. They are like escape pods.

But unlike alcohol or benzos they only last a few minutes so they dont dull your whole trip. You just blast out of a rough spot and go right back to full on tripping.

Plus they give a rush. Ive never done DXM but it seems like oral DXM wouldnt give you a rush like inhailed nitrous. From what my friends describe DXM makes them drunm and fucked up. idk what kind fo doses they took though. I told them not to fuck with that shit anymore also. Its funny one of them wont touch nitrous or LSD but they would fuckin down some dex syrup. I dont get it. Hes done shrooms and LSA too but nope not LSD.

But anyway yeah i dont think there is a substitute for nitrous on a trip. Atleast i havent found anything.

Nitrous takes away the tense body load of shrooms, makes you laugh, gives you different visuals. Its awesome.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #23856516 - 11/22/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, have you tried nitrous on acid?
I've tried DMT but never broken through, but acid+n2o is what I'd imagine it to be like.
It's usually always overwhelmingly blissful and positive though.

Unfortunately, (or fortunately in my case last night) it's incredibly short lived, so, you're pretty much back as soon as you left.

I can't imagine spending any more time in those dark realms, it made any bad trips I've had up to now seem beautiful.




I don't know how you guys handle those dark zones. I found myself in a place of psychosis and I was at some points catatonic. Just puking dry heaving into a garbage. Moments of absolute lost external reality and I am clinging onto my bed for dear life. In that dark zone, there is no saving me.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: finalexplosion]
    #23856870 - 11/22/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I love how people hate on chemicals they have no experience with......uhg. I have massive experience with dxm and while it is hard to think on dxm let's see you do shrooms and perform well on a math test. I am more comfortable at 3rd platue but have exceeded that many . just, do actual research before trashing anything........... oh and if you just down syrup or cold pills yes you will be stupid. but it will have been a pre existing condition anyways.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: psilly the kid]
    #23856906 - 11/22/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Salvia is the bees knees on LSD...
Talk about visuals.... Alternate realities, and the LSD potebtiates the length of smoked salvia...
It's good shit.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: psilly the kid]
    #23856914 - 11/22/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I love how people hate on chemicals they have no experience with......uhg. I have massive experience with dxm and while it is hard to think on dxm let's see you do shrooms and perform well on a math test. I am more comfortable at 3rd platue but have exceeded that many . just, do actual research before trashing anything........... oh and if you just down syrup or cold pills yes you will be stupid. but it will have been a pre existing condition anyways.



Acctually shrooms increase pattern recognition. I feel i would do better at math on a dose of no more than 2gs.

But anyway im talking about lasting effects.

There are enough reports of long term problems that i would not touch the stuff.

And the main point of my post was that i dont think DXM would be a replacement because of the reasons i listed especially because it is a quick rush that lasts like a minute.

I just snuck in that there are so many reports og long term damage. Its worth letting people know. You shouldnt care more about defending your drugs of choice than promoting harm reduction and looking at peoples experiences with an open mind and trying to learn from them.

you are coming after me me for bringing up an issue that could occur and some people do not know about. Neither of my friends had researched it nearly enough.

Before i do a new drug, one of the many things that I look up is "*insert drug* experience gone wrong" to see what i am dealing with.

Not everybody dose so its worth mentioning.

We have this great resource, the internet so why not use it?

There are no studies on recreational doses of DXM. And certainly none on the long term effects of those dosages. Do lets use the intetrnet and learn from each other.


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    #23857018 - 11/22/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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DMX makes you retarded.






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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #23857027 - 11/22/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I tend to over fill the dispensers, lets say about 5-7 chargers, then have a huge punching balloon to suck on for awhile

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    #23857138 - 11/22/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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DMX makes you retarded.








LOL i fucked that up.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: LSDollar]
    #23857144 - 11/22/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

DXM has been proven to have neurotoxicity so yeah don't abuse it long term for sure, and actually I don't advise it at all despite the fact that I enjoy it. I usually don't take the doses people take to "trip" though, only a couple times actually. My usual recreational dose is 90-150mg which is mostly a euphoric drunken feeling.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: psilly the kid]
    #23857193 - 11/22/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I just don't like being stereotyped man. I'm all for complete education on any and all substances and interactions.

ooooo I didn't even think of salvia for it........ makes me want to get some ketamine and try it on L.
lots of things ive done have had some level of Neurotoxicity but that doesn't mean I regret those times. everyone has choice. I made mine and continue to do so.
btw dxm is physically addictive and can be mentally addictive. knew this girl she got up to several grams a day and she was fuckin retarted. but damn that's an extreme example. and she did seem to get over it after several years.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: psilly the kid]
    #23857239 - 11/22/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You arent getting "stereotyped".

Im saying there are reports of DXM making people stupid. It has nothing to do with you. Im talking about a drug. Whn i said it makes YOU retarded i mean the user i did t acctually mean that you are the only person that DXM will make retarded. dont take it personally.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23857495 - 11/22/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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....I inhaled the balloon, and, the fabric of reality was ripped apart around me by geometric shapes, tetrahedron like structures, which suddenly replaced reality with vast darkness.
I was now traversing through some kind of hyperspace void, amongst the empty darkness were gigantic structures made of of tetrahedrons interconnected with pillars....

....Then a feeling of looming malevolence or evil, cold dark terror and the feeling of something unimaginably cold, devoid of life, soul, and just pure evil existing out there in the void, a feeling I've never felt before and never want to feel again.






I've experienced some similar themes with nitrous & LSD...geometric shapes, pillars & columns, falling into vast voids...Here's one experience I had with nitrous & L that I've posted around here a lot over the years>>>>


https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23845472#23845472



.....but I have never ever experienced anything malevolent, cold, dark, or negative when inhaling nitrous while on a psychedelic. Usually it's the absolute contrary.








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That's cool! So like, when you hit the nitrous, it was like a dmt trip





I'd say some of my experiences with inhaling nitrous while on mushrooms, or LSD, or mescaline are most definitely "on par" with my smoked DMT experiences but not necessarily just like smoked DMT.....Some of the experience/trip reports you'll hear about in regards to inhaling nitrous while on another psychedelic does sound very reminiscent of smoked DMT though.


It's similar in the ways of being powerful, rapid, potential for out of body, profound, entity contact, "peak experience" type stuff...but nitrous oxide isn't exactly like DMT, certainly some similar themes though. (And nitrous doesn't always catalyze a full on OBE experience or entity contact sorta stuff when inhaled while tripping, I'd say this occurs for me about 1 out of 10 times, every once in a while something "clicks" just right and I get thrown way way out there)

Nitrous is also way easier/less anxious of a thing to jump into, one can have a completely reality shattering experiences with nitrous...but the stuff has never "rattled" me or made me anxious like DMT can, I'll inhale a balloon of nitrous regardless of how high/far out I'm tripping, can't say I'd do so with DMT.








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Yeah buy some whippits a nitrous cracker and some punch balloons and whenever you do a hit exhale it back in the balloon to hit again, i always get two or three rips from a single balloon cause i dont think your lungs get all the nitrous from the first lungful



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I just keep breathing into the balloon until I'm blasted off and no longer capable of holding a balloon.
I *think* it's safe, because obviously you can hold your breath for longer than that with no ill effect.







I used to "huff" the balloon, and I still will every once in a great while....


...but it's best to get a little bit of fresh oxygen in the mix rather than huffing away and suffocating ones self. I prefer to just take a large inhalation off a balloon with a little sip of fresh air at the end to pull it all down deep into my lungs and I hold it in for a while (just like I do with smoked DMT), I then exhale about 1/3rd of my lungs then inhale some fresh air to mix the remaining nitrous about in my lungs, hold that in for a while, then exhale my lungs completely, then take another large inhalation off the balloon with a sip of fresh air at the end to pull it all deep into my lungs and so there's a little bit of fresh oxygen in the mix....and repeat.

I usually get three lung fulls from a balloon with two chargers in it, and I always load my balloons up with at least 2 chargers, sometimes three...doing one charger at a time is a waste IMO.









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Jesus, I don't know if I want to try nitrous now; I didn't know you could blast off that far...
Are these hellish realms common on nitrous+Entheogens?






After 100s of trips with pairing nitrous with the classic psychedelics, I haven't had one single encounter with a "hellish realm" or anything negative or malevolent...and none of my friends have ever mentioned such things either. More often than not is the epitome of bliss and euphoria, feeling tranquil and at peace.

...but yea, nitrous with psychedelics has potential to really blast one out there, it's one combo that I actually rant about and suggest more people to do because I think a lot of people are still oblivious or clueless to how profound the stuff can be with LSD or mushrooms or mescaline (And those that know, they know :smirk:). I always have a small box of nitrous when I trip, and that's pretty much the only time I buy the stuff because inhaling it while not on a psychedelic or mdma isn't anything spectacular to me.







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For me nitrous is am instant escape from a rough spot in a trip. They are like escape pods.


But anyway yeah i dont think there is a substitute for nitrous on a trip. Atleast i havent found anything.

Nitrous takes away the tense body load of shrooms, makes you laugh, gives you different visuals. Its awesome.






I too have looked at nitrous as a sort of "reset" or momentary escape if one is falling into a funk of sorts during a trip...


...I've never had to use nitrous for such a thing, but there's been times I've been tripping with friends that were going through anxiety or just stuck in a weird funk during a trip and I've suggested to them to take a whippet and it sure as hell does the trick.


I mean it's going to make things super intense for a little while, but it tends to be a powerful anxiolytic, brings about a rush of bliss/euphoria, and is kinda like a "reset".


And yea, I don't know of anything that can substitute nitrous during a trip.









Anyway, thanks to the OP for sharing, I'm always super interested in hearing about people's experiences with nitrous & psychedelics, I think I'm more interested in hearing about such than I am about peoples smoked DMT experiences .








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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: openmind]
    #23857902 - 11/22/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I get that with nitrous + shrooms only sometimes. My thing that keeps happening is the disassociative qualities that nitrous have have me thinking I have jumped into an alternate reality. Everything is exactly the same....almost. I thought one universe was "harsher" than my normal one, yet, these feelings kept going into sober realms. I KNEW that my car ran a little smoother in one universe, than the other one.

I agree with whoever said nitrous was an escape pod for very strong, or trips that are going into unwanted territory. Whenever I get those feelings of dread, or anxiety, I crack some cartridges, and blast off to happy land. When you come back from the nitrous experience, usually the trip has taken a happier turn, especially if they induce a laughing fit.

Old thread where I was convinced I was travelling into other universes....


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: SizlChest]
    #23857940 - 11/22/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah dude im hoping escape pods will catch on. Everyone should know that there is a quick releif that doesnt ruin the whole trip like a benzo or alcohol and it acctually makes you trip way harder but still makes you feel ok. Feel free to use the term all you want lol.


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: SizlChest]
    #23857960 - 11/22/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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My thing that keeps happening is the disassociative qualities that nitrous have have me thinking I have jumped into an alternate reality. Everything is exactly the same....almost. I thought one universe was "harsher" than my normal one, yet, these feelings kept going into sober realms. I KNEW that my car ran a little smoother in one universe, than the other one.
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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23857973 - 11/22/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

oh ok oh ok then can we be friends then or at least jovial rivals? sorry just smoke my first bowl of the day till then it was going shitty


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: psilly the kid]
    #23858174 - 11/22/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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oh ok oh ok then can we be friends then or at least jovial rivals? sorry just smoke my first bowl of the day till then it was going shitty



Yeah i always regret something i did while i was sober once i smoke. I can be a real dick when im sober. I definately have to work on that too. We are good dude :sambergfive:


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Re: Opened a portal to hell with LSD+nitrous [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23858270 - 11/22/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

yay definitely going to try that nos next time ive only got a tab or two I find it hard to get OEVs from that few of tabs.


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