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Pans Misting
    #23853050 - 11/21/16 12:21 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for previous feedback -

Just under a week into fruiting some pans.  We had a pretty hot day yesterday and things were looking dry, so I soaked it all with a few good sprays.

Today I have this forming on my casing:



In order to ensure that they do not abort, then can I still lightly mist to keep the upper surface damp or will this make them bruise and/or abort?
Should I avoid all misting entirely?

Thanks guys :smile:


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Re: Pans Misting [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23853131 - 11/21/16 01:20 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

They are extremely touchy about misting, once they begin to pin I would stop misting all together unless they look very dry; and only mist lightly then.
I've lost entire flushes from a single misting, so be careful with them.
Yours looks perfect so far.

Panaeolus cyanescens or cambo?


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Re: Pans Misting [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23853289 - 11/21/16 04:45 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the tip!
I have heard of many things including people using a syringe to moisten areas that are not pinning without touching the pins.

Here is another picture - They are Copelandia Cyans - Australia
Hopefully the casing looks okay? :smile:



I am concerned that the high rate or evaporation of water from my perlite and a routinely taking the trays out and spraying the perlite.  Trying to maximise both humidity and airflow, as there are a few more holes in this SGFC than there should be.


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Re: Pans Misting [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23855231 - 11/21/16 06:41 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

targeted moistening with a syringe is fine just be careful it looks like that pinset is going to spread quickly. and those extra holes in your SGFC might be beneficial actually. pans like more FAE than cubes and some growers modify their SGFC's from the original design. and as those pins form you want the humidity to come down.


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Re: Pans Misting [Re: Panarchist]
    #23856390 - 11/22/16 07:08 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks again for your advice Panarchist - :smile:

I have followed the watering process and seem to have some good results so far in the SGFC



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Re: Pans Misting [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23856811 - 11/22/16 10:20 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

glad i could help. pans have become a passion of mine and i hope to play a role in helping to raise awareness of them. and continued success on that fruiting, looks like it's going to be a nice flush.


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Re: Pans Misting [Re: Panarchist]
    #23858870 - 11/22/16 09:55 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Quick question -

When would you harvest these?  Currently they are little fellas, sitting at about 2" max.
They are about 2 and a half days since pinning.

Do they grow bigger with more straw or coco?



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Re: Pans Misting [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23859034 - 11/22/16 11:17 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

You could harvest the larger fruits now, the remaining stages of growth are mostly inflation/water, the cells are already there.
However, I like to harvest pans when the caps are mostly white, yours are still a bit early, more yellow/brown than white.
Looking fantastic. Well done.

All Panaeolus species have dark black spores, and they quickly will paint each other with them, so if you see that you'll know you waited slightly to long to harvest.


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Re: Pans Misting [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23859040 - 11/22/16 11:22 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Panaeolus don't get very large, especially the active ones. As with P.cubensis later flushes will tend to produce fewer but larger fruits.
Larger substrate does seem to correlate with fruit size as well, given that you allowed plenty of consolidation time for the mycelium.


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Re: Pans Misting [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23859111 - 11/22/16 11:53 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Great, thanks for that feedback :smile:
Did yours turn out around a similar size too?


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Re: Pans Misting [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23859117 - 11/22/16 11:56 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

It's hard to tell because your photos have no basis for comparison (most people use a lighter).
I can't tell exactly how big these are, but mine were rather small, roughly 2" tall with 0.5" wide pileus.
As previously stated, some larger fruits emerged in later flushes.


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Re: Pans Misting [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23859320 - 11/23/16 01:54 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Awesome, thanks again.  Trying to get some Mexicans underway using the same process :wink:. Do you mind me asking how you harvest them individually without ruining the rest or do you just wait for the whole flush to come through?


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Re: Pans Misting [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23859343 - 11/23/16 02:12 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Looks as though you are doing it right, AgarStudent. :thumbup:

Nice work. :smile:


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Re: Pans Misting [Re: AllDay420]
    #23859532 - 11/23/16 05:12 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks again :smile:. Definitly worth the effort.


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Re: Pans Misting [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23862855 - 11/24/16 07:57 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

It is normal to have some colour variation on the tops of the pan caps?
I noticed that some are looking a little orange and was hoping that they were not drying up.
I touched the casing with the tip of my finger and you could tell there was some dampness there, although the top is dry.

Please check out :smile: Much appreciated



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Re: Pans Misting [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23863032 - 11/24/16 09:20 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Still looks great to me. The substrate hasn't pulled away from the walls of it's container so it's still got some moisture,
once this flush slows to a crawl just give a good soak. The color variation is normal with different stages if development, a fully mature Panaeolus will be solid white, but starts out brown. Plus, if you used spores to inoculate there will be some genetic diversity.

It's been a joy watching your grow. I do love Panaeolus sp.


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Re: Pans Misting [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23864366 - 11/24/16 06:58 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

nice, i just love to see those little guys popping up. keep up the good work.


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Re: Pans Misting [Re: Panarchist]
    #23864911 - 11/24/16 11:03 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the positive help guys :wink:
Do you ever put on a fresh casing layer between flushes or just soak and wait for newbies to come through? :wink: Cheers


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Re: Pans Misting [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23864917 - 11/24/16 11:07 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I've never done another casing, but it wouldn't do much harm. Up to you entirely to give it a shot.
I just soak for a few hours and wait for the next troop of lovelies. :heart:


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Re: Pans Misting [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23865387 - 11/25/16 07:40 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I got them soaking like this for an hour or two -



Do you just tip the tub on its side to try and drain water off then then back in the chamber?

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