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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23853024 - 11/21/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would if they were torturing small animals or listening to "who let the dogs out"
But those are pretty extreme examples
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: Repertoire89] 1
#23853026 - 11/21/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Or what if they don't like cheesecake?
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: Repertoire89]
#23853034 - 11/21/16 12:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd send them to military school. Shape up or ship out.
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: trees]
#23853044 - 11/21/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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trees said: I'd try to convince them to not be trans. Trans seems unhealthy
This is my thoughts on it. I'd still be supportive if they really wanted that and had years to think about it.
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: Repertoire89]
#23853045 - 11/21/16 12:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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There's Mormon re-education camps that have a great suck-sess rate.
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23853056 - 11/21/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
contrary to popular belief, I support gay marriage because equality is a constitutional right, I support legalization of drugs as long as the drug user is required to take responsibility of their own actions, I support abortions because I think everyone should have at least one. I'm getting mine next week
Really, you would be supportive of your kids using drugs too? Because usually even drug users tend to be wary about letting their kids experiment with and use drugs.
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23853064 - 11/21/16 12:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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XLCaps said: Or what if they don't like cheesecake?
If male, shave his beard so all can see his naked shame
If we're talking about a female, take away her burka and expose her sin form
If trans, apply sushi popper
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: Crystal G]
#23853140 - 11/21/16 01:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: I'd be supportive about them being gay. Actually a part of me would be quite happy about this fact. Of all the people out there in this world, I'm probably one of the best parents that kid could have been born into as far as gay lifestyle acceptance goes.
Shoot I'll go with them to all the pride parades each year and hook them up on Grindr and everything. I'm already part of the gay and lesbian inner circle, so I have all the numbers for the LGBT resource centers and art shows and everything. I'd have all the bases already covered. So I would be happy that at least that gay kid ended up with somebody like me, and not a psycho parent that makes them suicidal.
As for trans though, it really depends on how old they are. If they are small children, I would try to dissuade them or discourage them from pursuing this as long as possible. But if they end up reaching age 14 and are still really persistent about being trans, or end up suffering serious psychological problems because they are unable to express themselves, I might allow them to start taking those hormone blockers and shit.
But they would have to be old enough to make decisions about their own body, like at least 13 or 14 I think. Since I think that's also roughly the right age to allow them to decide if they want to take birth control for themselves too. I'd of course inform them about all the side effects and health issues that come with taking all these hormones, like that it can cause yeast infections, low sex drive, breast cancer, infertility, etc.
A part of me would be somewhat disappointed if they decided to be trans yes, just because it's not what I envisioned at all when I was expecting either a boy or a girl in my womb, but eventually I'd accept it if that's what they absolutely wanted, and they never wavered or questioned their determination even for one second. Ultimately the goal is to turn them into an adult that makes their own decisions and makes their life.
You don't decide to be trans. It is transistion of kill yourself. You can decide to kill yourself, but transness is as biological in origin as homosexuality.
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: Crystal G]
#23853152 - 11/21/16 01:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: they dont decide to be trans. they decide to assume the gender they feel is appropriate
Who the hell are you and what have you done with Pris
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those suicide rates are often because of the lack of support
I'd love my children regardless of their gender or sexual preferences.
I was just about to say that, those gay and trans suicide rates are usually due to lack of parental, friend, and community support.
So for trans, I would try to persuade them against it, but ultimately I'd accept it and support them just the same if they were very insistent about it. I just really want them to be sure that's what they really want, as there have been some cases of people who've even gone through the gender reassignment surgery only to later regret it and change their minds.
Gotta also address this. This has some truth but its really irrelavant as a point. Except for maybe being sterile, the effects of hormones are reversible on trans people. Just stop taking them, but a mtf might need to get their titties chopped off. Detransistion is pretty rare, even rarer are girls who get bottom surgery. Very few reget bottom surgery. We can compare this "regret" to other cures of other ailments and even though sometimes regret DOES happen, percentage wise Gential Surgery is massively successful when viewed as a cure. But like I said, girls who get bottom surgery are a minority. There was a psychologist lady who scoured as many cases of "regret" and "detransistioning" she could find,and out of 1000 cases she deemed I think 13 as legit regret. That's an awesome success rate. AWESOME.
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: Apollyphelion]
#23853154 - 11/21/16 01:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Apollyphelion said:
You don't decide to be trans. It is transistion of kill yourself. You can decide to kill yourself, but transness is as biological in origin as homosexuality.
That might be so as far as innate desire goes, but I'm referring to the actual decision of transitioning, that is something that somebody decides. Just like how one can be homosexual on the inside, but still choose to live a heterosexual lifestyle, even getting married and having children, as gay people frequently chose to do before the 1960's.
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: Crystal G]
#23853159 - 11/21/16 01:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You don't decide to be trans. It is transistion of kill yourself. You can decide to kill yourself, but transness is as biological in origin as homosexuality.
That might be so as far as innate desire goes, but I'm referring to the actual decision of transitioning, that is something that somebody decides. Just like how one can be homosexual on the inside, but still choose to live a heterosexual lifestyle, even getting married and having children, as gay people frequently chose to do before the 1960's.
Eventually you kill yourself, or transition to some degree. Read the book Self Made Man. It's about a woman who lived life as a man for a year, using a team of professionals to help her pass. At the end she checks into a nuthouse for feeling suicidal. The longer you wait the harder you fall, always. Most late transpeople were either A: really good at staving off dysphoria with some techniques or B: The come out when most of their loved ones die so "its safe"
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: Apollyphelion]
#23853160 - 11/21/16 01:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Except for maybe being sterile, the effects of hormones are reversible on trans people.
No, they're not. In fact this is something that doctors doing hormone therapy even say, that hormone blockers are reversible but the effects from taking the actual hormones themselves are not.
When you take for instance, male hormones, your clitoris grows in size, you develop thick body hair, a deep voice, and a masculine square jaw. These effects are not reversible at all. If you look up pictures of any heavyweight female bodybuilder, you can tell that she has masculinized extensively.
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Very few reget bottom surgery. We can compare this "regret" to other cures of other ailments and even though sometimes regret DOES happen, percentage wise Gential Surgery is massively successful when viewed as a cure. But like I said, girls who get bottom surgery are a minority. There was a psychologist lady who scoured as many cases of "regret" and "detransistioning" she could find,and out of 1000 cases she deemed I think 13 as legit regret. That's an awesome success rate. AWESOME.
I'm sure the rates are very low. I just remember watching a documentary on TLC I believe? I don't really remember where, but it was about a male who transitioned to female, who ended up regretting his decision after surgery. I felt really bad for him, going through all that only to discover that you're just as unhappy or even worse off than you were before.
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
#23853161 - 11/21/16 01:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Gay? Wouldn't care. Trans? I'd laugh and get them some books on biology
you're gullible.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/
PS: gender is a linguistic concept denoting aspects of gender within a descriptive language, ie, hard, soft, manly, womanly, strong, weak, manly, womanly; get it? no...of course not.
then it turned into sex when people started using them interchangeably, without thinking...at all.
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PeyoteZen said: I'd send them to military school. Shape up or ship out.
eww.
if you have kids, just leave them a note.
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: Apollyphelion]
#23853166 - 11/21/16 01:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eventually you kill yourself, or transition to some degree. Read the book Self Made Man. It's about a woman who lived life as a man for a year, using a team of professionals to help her pass. At the end she checks into a nuthouse for feeling suicidal. The longer you wait the harder you fall, always. Most late transpeople were either A: really good at staving off dysphoria with some techniques or B: The come out when most of their loved ones die so "its safe"
Humans have lived for centuries all throughout history without such an urgent need to transition or change sexes. I can't speak for trans people or how intensely they feel, but I just wanted to add that little fact to put things in perspective.
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: Crystal G]
#23853168 - 11/21/16 01:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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humans wouldn't have even grasped the concept of "transitioning" centuries ago...they'd either not have the concept at all, or would've been thrown in the psycheward. obviously for harboring crazy ideas. because humanity can't understand how things work.
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Prisoner#1 said: they dont decide to be trans. they decide to assume the gender they feel is appropriate
Who the hell are you and what have you done with Pris
just to note: Pris isn't a child (...don't quote me on that)
unlike some people who haven't even had children, and cannot grasp what it is to have a child.
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: Crystal G]
#23853169 - 11/21/16 01:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Except for maybe being sterile, the effects of hormones are reversible on trans people.
No, they're not. In fact this is something that doctors doing hormone therapy even say, that hormone blockers are reversible but the effects from taking the actual hormones themselves are not.
When you take for instance, male hormones, your clitoris grows in size, you develop thick body hair, a deep voice, and a masculine square jaw. These effects are not reversible at all. If you look up pictures of any heavyweight female bodybuilder, you can tell that she has masculinized extensively.
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Very few reget bottom surgery. We can compare this "regret" to other cures of other ailments and even though sometimes regret DOES happen, percentage wise Gential Surgery is massively successful when viewed as a cure. But like I said, girls who get bottom surgery are a minority. There was a psychologist lady who scoured as many cases of "regret" and "detransistioning" she could find,and out of 1000 cases she deemed I think 13 as legit regret. That's an awesome success rate. AWESOME.
I'm sure the rates are very low. I just remember watching a documentary on TLC I believe? I don't really remember where, but it was about a male who transitioned to female, who ended up regretting his decision after surgery. I felt really bad for him, going through all that only to discover that you're just as unhappy or even worse off than you were before.
All I gotta say is boo fuckin hoo. No cure works 100% but transitioning is the best cure we have. That's why it take 18 months of therapy to even be allowed to get Genital Reassignment Surgery. I also think FtMs suffer the most confusion among the transfolk and seem to detransistion more.
Besisdes sterility, in MtF the effects are reversible with surgery, and the fat eventually distributes back into male places. FtMs are more shit out of luck as far as detransistioning because the effects are less reversible. I think very Transwoman centric as A: I'm not a transman and B: Transmen are a non issue in society.
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: Apollyphelion]
#23853179 - 11/21/16 01:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's not a good idea.
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: Great Scott] 2
#23853187 - 11/21/16 02:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said: It's not a good idea.
based off statistics, you are objectively wrong.
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: Apollyphelion]
#23853220 - 11/21/16 02:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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How would I react if my child turned out to be gay? Easily: I would be supportive.
How would I react if my child turned out to be transgendered? Much less easily: I would be supportive.
I am a guy who considers himself to be heterosexual for the most part but I also find myself attracted to men. It would not at all be difficult for me to support gay children should I ever have them.
If my children turned out transgendered I think I would have a harder time supporting them only because it is something I'm less familiar with and am therefore less able to understand. When I was a little boy, one of my favorite things to do was to play dress up with my female cousins at Mema's house with all her costume jewelry and gowns. I felt really pretty. I've also imagined what it would be like to be a female a lot over my life but I feel like a guy and always have, even if I'm not a particularly masculine guy in the culturally traditional sense given the way I carry myself. I love doing traditionally masculine things and being a guy has for the most part always felt right, so my concern in supporting my hypothetical transgendered children is that I wouldn't have or couldn't figure out a way to find the necessary empathy needed to help fully understand.
I'd do my best to be supportive of my children if they were transgendered.
Cheesecake? Abort! Aborted cheescakes don't have rights, I can eat it, right?
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Re: How would you react if your child turned out to be gay or transgendered? [Re: MorphinTime]
#23853223 - 11/21/16 02:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd probably eat my kid if it came out as a cheesecake
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