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Why everything is connected
    #2385282 - 02/28/04 12:11 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

If you don't see it now, you'll see it eventually.

Just remember you are loved.


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Shroomism]
    #2385304 - 02/28/04 12:24 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

Thank you, that was perfect timing....I needed that right now.


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Seeking_Gnosis]
    #2385325 - 02/28/04 12:30 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

I know, glad I could be of service


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Shroomism]
    #2385385 - 02/28/04 12:48 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

Thank you from me, too.    :heart:


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Frog]
    #2385397 - 02/28/04 12:52 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

sometimes, there is certainty within the vague

and perfection, within imperfection


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Shroomism]
    #2385460 - 02/28/04 01:10 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

You know, I'm not sure I like how most things you say are intentionally void of reason and logic. Your truths are supposed to be self actualizing when they can easily be taken as either lies, nonsence, or crazyness.

But at least I agree with you :smile:


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Shroomism]
    #2385461 - 02/28/04 01:10 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

And see, there is a lot of "disconnection" right now, for various reasons. And I've been reminding myself that I am, indeed, loved, and I remind myself of all that is right in the world.

But you're right, what you said. Certainty within the vague, and perfection within imperfection. How could it be anything but???


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Frog]
    #2385475 - 02/28/04 01:13 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

To feel real love we have to embrace the connection. Aslong as there are people to embrace this connection, than you my friend, are being loved......:stoned:


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Spokesman]
    #2385549 - 02/28/04 01:42 AM (13 years, 1 day ago)

And all along I just thought it was the quantum interconnectedness that at the most basic level (that we've observed so far) unites everything.


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2385578 - 02/28/04 01:56 AM (13 years, 1 day ago)

Well, and that, too.  :grin:


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Shroomism]
    #2386074 - 02/28/04 06:52 AM (13 years, 1 day ago)

"sometimes, there is certainty within the vague

and perfection, within imperfection"

I was thinking today about perfection, i recall times when my actions could be called perfectionist, and i have observed this trait in the way i interact with the world. I took the time to consider whether this was a trait i wished to continue with.

I thought about how the search for perfection was a desire to control the world, to put "everything in it's right place". This need for control could certainly be percieved as an unfavourable thing because it could lead to frustration in times where control is not available. I also considered that this represented a desire to change the world for the better, to seek out that which is beautiful (as i certainly do) and to channel it through yourself in a way which reflects your perception of perfection. Surely this cannot be a negative desire?

I then realised that i had thought myself into theoretical oblivion and began to consider the idea of forgiveness, through this i decided to forgive myself for my imperfections, and this is how i came to the perception that I, and therefore all of humanity, is perfect in its imperfection because all can be forgiven. With tolerance and forgiveness in mind, all is perfect.


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Shroomism]
    #2386118 - 02/28/04 08:02 AM (13 years, 1 day ago)

* there is certainty within the vague

and perfection, within imperfection


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: matteo]
    #2386405 - 02/28/04 12:57 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

Nothing is perfect, and nothing goes according to plan, usually. That's why you have to work with what you've got sometimes, and that's perfection in itself, is the ability to take what's not perfect, and work with it. The ability to work with you've got is like an art. I called it "flying by the seat of my pants", once.


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Shroomism]
    #2386497 - 02/28/04 01:47 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:

Shroomism said:
If you don't see it now, you'll see it eventually.

Just remember you are loved.




i wonder if the connectedness you see is the same one as i see?

~JSlice~


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Shroomism]
    #2387478 - 02/28/04 10:45 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

It's all about the resolution of dichotomies...

I've recently understood the frustration of trying to explain something to someone that is beyond formality. You fumble for words and even begin to doubt your own ideas. You're trying to explain it linearly for them, but when you enter that state of mind, it slowly dawns on you that it is'nt going work. It's not they they cling to it egotistically, it's just that, that is what their thoughts are based on, that's the only way they know how to understand.



If you wan't to explain something, you have to go from concept 'a' to concept 'b'. Using this kind of word, with this type of definition under this type of context. Staying in this pool of dichotomy too long just results in you loosing your true self.


It's like trying to explain to someone who has known tools to be only hammers and screws. When you try to explain to him that there are tools that can take you places in hours where it would take days to get there by foot(cars) they just look at you like your speaking of something inherently mystical. 

Trying to explain computers to such a person is almost impossible.
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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Shroomism]
    #2387716 - 02/29/04 12:20 AM (13 years, 1 day ago)

How am I loved? I don't feel loved. How can someone that doesn't know me love me? And in what way could we be connected?


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #2387735 - 02/29/04 12:27 AM (13 years, 1 day ago)

I think we share the same energy, which makes up the consciousness that connects us.

That was stupid.

Listen, I LOVE YOU! How can I not, when you are the same as me? I don't even have to know you. And there are other people, not a whole lot, who feel the same as me. And that love is out there, as an "energy", so to speak, and it connects us with each other, and we can feel it, if we try.


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Frog]
    #2387739 - 02/29/04 12:29 AM (13 years, 1 day ago)

How could you accept connectiveness with someone like George Bush though, who is also killing others who are also connected to you. By loving him are you not loving someone killing a part of you?


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #2387741 - 02/29/04 12:30 AM (13 years, 1 day ago)

it's the way the story goes...


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Re: Why everything is connected [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #2387750 - 02/29/04 12:35 AM (13 years, 1 day ago)

Everyone should be loved, and is capable of being loved. We are all the same, basically. Some of us have gone astray, behavior-wise.

We all exhibit behaviors that are good and bad. I do, you do. Bush does. Loving someone doesn't mean you love the bad behaviors. It means loving them in spite of the bad behaviors.

But at the same time, that doesn't mean that we should vote for Bush again, if we disaprove of what he is doing. We don't keep people in our lives when they are engaging in bad behaviors. Love them from a distance, if necessary.

I look at the way Jesus ate with the prostitutes and the tax collectors. He didn't condone the behavior, but he loved them just the same.


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