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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: luvdemshrooms] 1
#23871966 - 11/27/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Or that.
Unless they'd like to see a positive change for what used to be an enjoyable way to spend some time.
Besides, I imagine he can stick up for himself.
When I get to the point in a conversation where it becomes a circle jerk of nonsense because the person I am talking to is either irrational, or refuses to acknowledge verifiable fact, and instead hone in on whatever ridiculous bullshit they feel somehow validates their claim, or provides a sufficient distraction from mine... Its really not worth anyone's time to bother further.
When you pointed out that the pipeline doesn't go through native territory, I at least had to look into that, and found it to be true. That's worth my time. Arguing over whose T levels are higher isn't. I do believe that the pipeline goes through native burial sites, and is potentially hazardous to the water supply in the area, and I believe there are still legal procedures that have been illegally bypassed in the pipeline's installation process. However, I was under the impression that it did go directly through their land, and that was erroneous.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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no, they made concessions, but instead of pelting them with rubber bullets, they should work out a better deal.
fucking pieces of shit do not need to put the pipeline in where they want it...go further around, fuck the government and all that. muh taxes. all that dumb shit.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: akira_akuma]
#23871998 - 11/27/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: no, they made concessions, but instead of pelting them with rubber bullets, they should work out a better deal.
fucking pieces of shit do not need to put the pipeline in where they want it...go further around, fuck the government and all that. muh taxes. all that dumb shit.
Who made concessions? The oil company?
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23872001 - 11/27/16 01:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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on the position of the pipeline, whomever made that decision; this is what i've heard down the grapevine.
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Unless they'd like to see a positive change for what used to be an enjoyable way to spend some time.
Besides, I imagine he can stick up for himself.
Talking about HU? Or bbw?
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: akira_akuma]
#23873088 - 11/27/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: on the position of the pipeline, whomever made that decision; this is what i've heard down the grapevine.
The natives had literally hundreds of times to weigh in on the position of the pipeline, they declined, until it was too late
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-ed-standing-rock-sioux-other-side-110916-20161109-story.html
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: qman]
#23873997 - 11/28/16 12:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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qman said: Do you realize many of these states are Red or Blue by a 3-5% margin? That's why making a broad generalization when it comes to policy and Red/Blue states is pretty meaningless.
We don't have a system like Europe does. When 55% of voters vote for Republican leaders, then 100% of those leaders are Republican, not just 55%.
That explains why red states are so consistently worse off than blue states.
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qman said: Do you realize many of these states are Red or Blue by a 3-5% margin? That's why making a broad generalization when it comes to policy and Red/Blue states is pretty meaningless.
We don't have a system like Europe does. When 55% of voters vote for Republican leaders, then 100% of those leaders are Republican, not just 55%.
That explains why red states are so consistently worse off than blue states.
He was suggesting that since a state is Red or Blue that ALL of those people in that state support the policies, that's not the case since most of those states are equally divided and are Red or Blue by the slimmest of margins.
"are so consistently worse off"
Define "worse off".
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: qman] 1
#23874786 - 11/28/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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qman said: He was suggesting that since a state is Red or Blue that ALL of those people in that state support the policies
No he wasn't.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: That explains why red states are so consistently worse off than blue states.
Define "worse off".
They earn less money and require more welfare, on average.
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They earn less money and require more welfare, on average.
Is that not the typical trend? The libs are the welfare state; pro big government, single moms, children out of wedlock, massive student debt in Women studies & liberal arts majors lol
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: qman]
#23874969 - 11/28/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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qman said: Do you realize many of these states are Red or Blue by a 3-5% margin? That's why making a broad generalization when it comes to policy and Red/Blue states is pretty meaningless.
We don't have a system like Europe does. When 55% of voters vote for Republican leaders, then 100% of those leaders are Republican, not just 55%.
That explains why red states are so consistently worse off than blue states.
He was suggesting that since a state is Red or Blue that ALL of those people in that state support the policies, that's not the case since most of those states are equally divided and are Red or Blue by the slimmest of margins.
"are so consistently worse off"
Define "worse off".
What he's really saying is they have less millionaires, and that's true, they also have less crime, which is also true.
I'd prefer the latter than the former
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They earn less money and require more welfare, on average.
The libs are the welfare state; pro big government, single moms, children out of wedlock, massive student debt in Women studies & liberal arts majors lol
Liberals are not pro 'single moms', are not pro 'children out of wedlock', are not pro 'massive student debt'. Do you believe everything you read on the internet?
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: ballsalsa] 2
#23875347 - 11/28/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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And what a breath of stale air he is.
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qman said: He was suggesting that since a state is Red or Blue that ALL of those people in that state support the policies
No he wasn't.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: That explains why red states are so consistently worse off than blue states.
Define "worse off".
They earn less money and require more welfare, on average.
Do Red states "require more welfare" on a relative basis? Or do they just contribute less in tax revenue relative to their welfare usage?
It appears the argument being made is that using more Federal aid to supplement the state's revenue means the public is using more "welfare". That's sounds like a tax revenue issue, not using more "welfare" on a relative basis.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/01/15/7-biggest-deadbeat-states-federal-tax-dollars-voted-republican.html
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They earn less money and require more welfare, on average.
The libs are the welfare state; pro big government, single moms, children out of wedlock, massive student debt in Women studies & liberal arts majors lol
Who lobbies for more welfare?
Who lobbies for bigger govt?
Who demands more welfare for single moms?
Who runs the majority of the major universities?
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: qman]
#23875508 - 11/28/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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qman said: Do Red states "require more welfare" on a relative basis? Or do they just contribute less in tax revenue relative to their welfare usage?
It appears the argument being made is that using more Federal aid to supplement the state's revenue means the public is using more "welfare". That's sounds like a tax revenue issue, not using more "welfare" on a relative basis.
Red states take in more welfare money than they pay out.
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qman said: Do Red states "require more welfare" on a relative basis? Or do they just contribute less in tax revenue relative to their welfare usage?
It appears the argument being made is that using more Federal aid to supplement the state's revenue means the public is using more "welfare". That's sounds like a tax revenue issue, not using more "welfare" on a relative basis.
Red states take in more welfare money than they pay out.
Because they don't have as many millionaires
I'm failing to see the big deal, they have low crime, and have nice places to live
I'd rather live in a small red state than a liberal sprawling metropolis
***Just because there there is less millionaires doesn't meant they are "worse off"
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I don't care about the number of millionaires. The median income in red states is less than it is in blue states.
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qman said: Do Red states "require more welfare" on a relative basis? Or do they just contribute less in tax revenue relative to their welfare usage?
It appears the argument being made is that using more Federal aid to supplement the state's revenue means the public is using more "welfare". That's sounds like a tax revenue issue, not using more "welfare" on a relative basis.
Red states take in more welfare money than they pay out.
I already acknowledge that fact and it doesn't answer the questions I asked. Is this a welfare or tax revenue issue?
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