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EntheogenicPeace said: 2. The EC was put in place precisely to protect slavery from possible abolition by popular vote. You have it backwards. Astonishing the number of American "patriots" who know so little about their history.
It's astonishing how many of these 'Constitutionalists' wish to gut the constitution. The only right they wish to protect is the right to bear arms. They support violent police responses to peaceful protest, they support breaking treaties with Native Americans to run pipelines through their land, they support a government endorsed religion, they advocate the stifling of Muslims' rights to practice religion, etc.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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ballsalsa said: Yeah, reason, evidence, and intelligence. Thats why right-wing leeches in kentucky, georgia, or any number of hill-billy dead-weight states, ca be heard constantly complaining about how looney-leftists out in California are ruining the country. Meanwhile their state economy is subsidized by the output of one of the only civilized and productive states in the damned country. (California)
Redneck right wing America leeches off of liberal America, and then whines about welfare lol.
What a load a crap. 
http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8
Why don't you observe the facts before taking a position. Oh wait, you are fucking incapable of operating in any sort of rational and intelligent way.
You didn't think I knew of those statistics? You're trying to make a "conservative/liberal" economic argument, but you failed because you view it from a childish point of view.
Do you think JPM, Bank of America, Well Fargo, Google, Apple, GE, Exxon, Kinder Morgan, Lockheed Martin, ect. are liberal institutions?
Do you think the top 1/1000 of 1% wealthy individuals are liberal?
Just because those institutions and individuals might reside in Democratic states, it doesn't mean liberals are more economically successful than conservatives.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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EntheogenicPeace said: 2. The EC was put in place precisely to protect slavery from possible abolition by popular vote. You have it backwards. Astonishing the number of American "patriots" who know so little about their history.
It's astonishing how many of these 'Constitutionalists' wish to gut the constitution. The only right they wish to protect is the right to bear arms. They support violent police responses to peaceful protest, they support breaking treaties with Native Americans to run pipelines through their land, they support a government endorsed religion, they advocate the stifling of Muslims' rights to practice religion, etc.
Is that all you can do? Is lie about what's actully going on?
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: qman]
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He's trying to say everyone in red states are on welfare and are conservative,
***once again, he's assigning lies to fit his narrative, I know it, he knows it, and I'm pretty sure everyone else does as well
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EntheogenicPeace said: That's the way to stick it to those PC bastards who don't wanna hang all the god-damn queers! God-damn tired of the liberal Commie Jew media telling me not to kill fags! I'm a "real American" god dammit! Not gonna put up with their tyranny any more that won't let me exercise my freedoms!
They want to talk about the Socialists taking over 'with their big government', but these people want to lynch people they don't like. People who aren't like the people 'where he grew up'. Republicans are the Authoritarians. They are Authoritarian Fascist Theocrats... And they want us to talk them with respect? Give their arguments dignity? I have too much dignity for that.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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EntheogenicPeace said: 2. The EC was put in place precisely to protect slavery from possible abolition by popular vote. You have it backwards. Astonishing the number of American "patriots" who know so little about their history.
It's astonishing how many of these 'Constitutionalists' wish to gut the constitution. The only right they wish to protect is the right to bear arms. They support violent police responses to peaceful protest, they support breaking treaties with Native Americans to run pipelines through their land, they support a government endorsed religion, they advocate the stifling of Muslims' rights to practice religion, etc.
"support violent police responses to peaceful protest"
No, they don't want violent thugs to riot and attack innocent people.
"breaking treaties with Native Americans"
The horror.
"they advocate the stifling of Muslims' rights to practice religion"
Nonsense, the don't want more Muslims coming into the US.
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Bigbadwooof said: Redneck right wing America leeches off of liberal America, and then whines about welfare lol.
What a load a crap. 
http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8
Why don't you observe the facts before taking a position. Oh wait, you are fucking incapable of operating in any sort of rational and intelligent way.
You didn't think I knew of those statistics? You're trying to make a "conservative/liberal" economic argument, but you failed because you view it from a childish point of view.
Do you think JPM, Bank of America, Well Fargo, Google, Apple, GE, Exxon, Kinder Morgan, Lockheed Martin, ect. are liberal institutions?
Do you think the top 1/1000 of 1% wealthy individuals are liberal?
Just because those institutions and individuals might reside in Democratic states, it doesn't mean liberals are more economically successful than conservatives. 
That's clearly not the point I am making, no surprise it's fucking lost on you, Qman.
Voters in welfare states like 'Louisiana' vote against welfare programs, yet they are the disproportionate recipients of Federal welfare, while states like California and Massachusetts pay in far more than they take, and still vote for the programs.
You probably still don't understand what I'm saying, so don't break your head over it.
By the way, oil companies don't vote. Their employees do, but the company itself does not, and their employees vote many different ways.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: qman] 1
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qman said: "breaking treaties with Native Americans"
The horror.
You think it's no big deal to break treaties with Indian nations? That's the sort of treatment they've been getting for the last 300 years -- I can't say I'm surprised, they're still heavily discriminated against. But really? I think the time has come to show these people more respect, not more oppression. But that's probably wishful thinking.
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qman said: "breaking treaties with Native Americans"
The horror.
You think it's no big deal to break treaties with Indian nations? That's the sort of treatment they've been getting for the last 300 years -- I can't say I'm surprised, they're still heavily discriminated against. But really? I think the time has come to show these people more respect, not more oppression. But that's probably wishful thinking.
Here's a News Flash, they are putting roads and pipelines onto peoples land regardless of ownership, this government policy does NOT discriminate based on race or culture.
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qman said: "support violent police responses to peaceful protest"
No, they don't want violent thugs to riot and attack innocent people.
I said peaceful protests. I didn't say violent protest, did I? Can you fucking read plain English, Qman? I'm starting to think you're incapable, or maybe you're just incapable of processing the English language.
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"breaking treaties with Native Americans"
The horror.
Some of us wish to uphold the constitution. Breaking treaties is unconstitutional. Not that you would know anything about how this country works, or the values it was founded on. You think Donald Trump got his hands dirty "in the trenches" lmao!!! The man who has now rolled on virtually every single campaign promise he made, before he even takes office.
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"they advocate the stifling of Muslims' rights to practice religion"
Nonsense, the don't want more Muslims coming into the US.
It's not nonsense. They advocate the banning of mosques, and outlawing of Sharia law. That is unconstitutional. That's why Rick Perry found himself in legal trouble. You could trying having one ounce of information about something before you post. That would be helpful. Oh, and as for your whole 'we may just have to become Nazi's' threat, have you not considered, for one moment, the force you will be met with when you do bear your swastika? Do you think there will be no response to the Trump people calling black folks nigger after the election? Do you think you will not be met with equal or greater force?
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: qman]
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qman said: "breaking treaties with Native Americans"
The horror.
You think it's no big deal to break treaties with Indian nations? That's the sort of treatment they've been getting for the last 300 years -- I can't say I'm surprised, they're still heavily discriminated against. But really? I think the time has come to show these people more respect, not more oppression. But that's probably wishful thinking.
Here's a News Flash, they are putting roads and pipelines onto peoples land regardless of ownership, this government policy does NOT discriminate based on race or culture.
If you had an even cursory knowledge of our treatment of the Indians over the last couple of centuries, right up through today, you would know it is ludicrous to suggest that the Indians are the antagonists here. Regardless of the truth of what you say, what a ridiculous attitude to have.
What you're suggesting is like if someone was backed against a wall by a SWAT team, it would be appropriate to be upset with them because they're getting the wall dirty.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said: Redneck right wing America leeches off of liberal America, and then whines about welfare lol.
What a load a crap. 
http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8
Why don't you observe the facts before taking a position. Oh wait, you are fucking incapable of operating in any sort of rational and intelligent way.
You didn't think I knew of those statistics? You're trying to make a "conservative/liberal" economic argument, but you failed because you view it from a childish point of view.
Do you think JPM, Bank of America, Well Fargo, Google, Apple, GE, Exxon, Kinder Morgan, Lockheed Martin, ect. are liberal institutions?
Do you think the top 1/1000 of 1% wealthy individuals are liberal?
Just because those institutions and individuals might reside in Democratic states, it doesn't mean liberals are more economically successful than conservatives. 
That's clearly not the point I am making, no surprise it's fucking lost on you, Qman.
Voters in welfare states like 'Louisiana' vote against welfare programs, yet they are the disproportionate recipients of Federal welfare, while states like California and Massachusetts pay in far more than they take, and still vote for the programs.
You probably still don't understand what I'm saying, so don't break your head over it.
By the way, oil companies don't vote. Their employees do, but the company itself does not, and their employees vote many different ways.
I know exactly what you're trying to do and it's completely disingenuous in nature.
Do you realize many of these states are Red or Blue by a 3-5% margin? That's why making a broad generalization when it comes to policy and Red/Blue states is pretty meaningless.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: qman]
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qman said: "breaking treaties with Native Americans"
The horror.
You think it's no big deal to break treaties with Indian nations? That's the sort of treatment they've been getting for the last 300 years -- I can't say I'm surprised, they're still heavily discriminated against. But really? I think the time has come to show these people more respect, not more oppression. But that's probably wishful thinking.
Here's a News Flash, they are putting roads and pipelines onto peoples land regardless of ownership, this government policy does NOT discriminate based on race or culture.
You think you're capable of giving me a 'News Flash'? lmao! It is Illegal. If you would like to argue with me on that, I would be happy to make you look, and hopefully feel foolish, once more.
This has nothing to do with race or culture, by the way, and this is not the government's pipeline.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: qman]
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qman said: I know exactly what you're trying to do and it's completely disingenuous in nature.
Do you realize many of these states are Red or Blue by a 3-5% margin? That's why making a broad generalization when it comes to policy and Red/Blue states is pretty meaningless.
I don't believe that to be the case at all, but you are welcome to prove otherwise.
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qman said: "breaking treaties with Native Americans"
The horror.
You think it's no big deal to break treaties with Indian nations? That's the sort of treatment they've been getting for the last 300 years -- I can't say I'm surprised, they're still heavily discriminated against. But really? I think the time has come to show these people more respect, not more oppression. But that's probably wishful thinking.
Here's a News Flash, they are putting roads and pipelines onto peoples land regardless of ownership, this government policy does NOT discriminate based on race or culture.
If you had an even cursory knowledge of our treatment of the Indians over the last couple of centuries, right up through today, you would know it is ludicrous to suggest that the Indians are the antagonists here. Regardless of the truth of what you say, what a ridiculous attitude to have.
What you're suggesting is like if someone was backed against a wall by a SWAT team, it would be appropriate to be upset with them because they're getting the wall dirty.
"you would know it is ludicrous to suggest that the Indians are the antagonists here"
I never did.
"ridiculous attitude to have"
I only suggested that Native Americans are not the only demographic to be bullied off their land by the Federal government. Do you have a similar outrage when it happens to other people?
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#23868375 - 11/26/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You didn't think I knew of those statistics? You're trying to make a "conservative/liberal" economic argument, but you failed because you view it from a childish point of view.
Do you think JPM, Bank of America, Well Fargo, Google, Apple, GE, Exxon, Kinder Morgan, Lockheed Martin, ect. are liberal institutions?
Do you think the top 1/1000 of 1% wealthy individuals are liberal?
Just because those institutions and individuals might reside in Democratic states, it doesn't mean liberals are more economically successful than conservatives. 
But why do those institutions and individuals reside in Democratic states? According to the conservative rhetoric, California is a tax and spend bureaucratic liberal shithole. Why don't all these wealthy folks relocate to Mississippi?
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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qman said: "breaking treaties with Native Americans"
The horror.
You think it's no big deal to break treaties with Indian nations? That's the sort of treatment they've been getting for the last 300 years -- I can't say I'm surprised, they're still heavily discriminated against. But really? I think the time has come to show these people more respect, not more oppression. But that's probably wishful thinking.
Here's a News Flash, they are putting roads and pipelines onto peoples land regardless of ownership, this government policy does NOT discriminate based on race or culture.
You think you're capable of giving me a 'News Flash'? lmao! It is Illegal. If you would like to argue with me on that, I would be happy to make you look, and hopefully feel foolish, once more.
This has nothing to do with race or culture, by the way, and this is not the government's pipeline.
That's why I said "government policy".
"This has nothing to do with race or culture"
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: qman]
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"you would know it is ludicrous to suggest that the Indians are the antagonists here"
I never did.
"ridiculous attitude to have"
I only suggested that Native Americans are not the only demographic to be bullied off their land by the Federal government. Do you have a similar outrage when it happens to other people?
Well, whatever. It seemed like you were saying something else.
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qman said: "breaking treaties with Native Americans"
The horror.
You think it's no big deal to break treaties with Indian nations? That's the sort of treatment they've been getting for the last 300 years -- I can't say I'm surprised, they're still heavily discriminated against. But really? I think the time has come to show these people more respect, not more oppression. But that's probably wishful thinking.
They're not "heavily discriminated against"
They get free college, free housing, and preferential treatment for jobs that are on the Rez.
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Are there any unbiased sources showing Clinton won the popular vote because mainstream media cannot be trusted. The so called experts got pawned. China revealed Trump as president before CNN. LULZ had by all.
Also, the obese green haired unshaven women rioting was pissed long before Trump won. Dudes hiding behind her have way too low testosterone, the lib women have far too much test.
I think the real freakout is that, education system will be reformed, and participation ribbons are going. Imagine that. People would have to actually compete.
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