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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof] 1
#23867123 - 11/25/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said: So, now that Trump has lost the popular vote, but won the presidency, due to the impact of the electoral college, I think it's time this nation discuss the usefulness and purpose of the EC. George W Bush won this way also. If it weren't for the EC, Republicans wouldn't have held the oval office once in the past 25 years. Yet they've had 8 years, and have been granted 4 more due to the weighted scale of our democracy.
There's a reason this country polls left on most issues, but elects Donald Trump.
Vast majority of the female population vote left wing, are pro big government, into liberal arts, and women's studies. Complain about the wage gap when majoring in Women's studies or philosophy lol Wage Myths been debunked for ages.
I do not buy this rubbish about she won the popular vote. It just feeds the liberals with green hair and their pity party. You got women with way too much testosterone and men with really low testosterone voting left. Crying white privilege.
Trump caught hell for calling out voter fraud. Documented cases of voter fraud went viral in Texas and Florida. The Clinton campaign is not calling for a recount otherwise, it will be shown she lost by a fucking landslide. It was like a monster truck hitting a pop can. Not even close.
The biggest issue evident over this election is not the landslide loss or the victim tangent of SJWs. Its the bias of mainstream media that clearly has no fucking clue what they are talking about nor do the experts pushing this madam president rubbish. All the social media and social engineering from the left was in vain.
The only media that was showing Trump to win was Info wars, Rebel media, and other alternative medias. The media failed and anybody with logic and reasoning will not listen to their nonsense in future.
Outside mainstream narrative of pity party and leftist sob stories, link source of Hilary winning the popular vote. What was evident, Katy P paid 75k to endorse Clinton. How much was Jay Z or beyonce paid?
What the election showed is that, people do not give a fuck about what Trump said or the fake racism and sexist cries. They want change. They want to see something anti establishment.
Don't worry everyone. Donald Trump will make America great again.
... Wow, what a sweep of ignorant blanket statements. Do you actually believe your own bullshit? I am a very avid (that means enthusiastic) supporter of leftist politics, and I assure you my T levels are just fine, buddy ...
Im not going to read all of your garbage, because I no longer argue with children. However, I have to say that I am curious if, while you right wingers are bathing in your manliness and high T levels, have you ever quarried why you are so incredibly terrified of everything and everyone who isn't a member of your little club? It's funny to hear Republicans talk about 'rebuilding the military'... I'm sure the humor in that is lost on you though, isn't it?
You ducked all my points and then are begging me to jump to your questions.
Lets agree to disagree.
The people have voted. Trump won. Deal with it. I hope you are not among the angry violent protesters crying in the streets.
The popular vote pushed by the mainstream media, the same media that pushed the madam president rubbish with all their posters. The only ones that got it right were info wars, rebel media, roger stone, and a variety of alternative media.
It was not Trump the person people voted for. It was the people final having enough of the social engineering, the free money parade ie government bailouts, welfare state, and the whole pc culture. Its over dude. Screaming racist or sexist doesn't win you arguments anymore. You still need reason, evidence and intelligence.
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Yeah, reason, evidence, and intelligence. Thats why right-wing leeches in kentucky, georgia, or any number of hill-billy dead-weight states, ca be heard constantly complaining about how looney-leftists out in California are ruining the country. Meanwhile their state economy is subsidized by the output of one of the only civilized and productive states in the damned country. (California)
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Info wars? Alex Jones? Lol... Tell me, do you consider that news?
Tell me, how is it rubbish that she won the popular vote?.. She did win the popular vote. You don't see me saying it's rubbish that Trump won the electoral vote. He did win the electoral vote. I know you Alex Jonesites like to ignore inconvenient facts of reality, but your opinion is no substitute for fact, in any place that is not a right wing echo chamber.
If you think the left is characterized by feminists and SJW's alone, you are sorely confused. You are also setting up a strawman of what/who the left really are.
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It was the people final having enough of the social engineering, the free money parade ie government bailouts, welfare state, and the whole pc culture. Its over dude. Screaming racist or sexist doesn't win you arguments anymore. You still need reason, evidence and intelligence.
You voted for Trump, and you want to talk about reason, evidence, and intelligence?
Had the Democrats put forth any option that wasn't Trump, he surely would have lost. He and Clinton were the two most disliked candidates to go head to head in a general election in US history. It's the climate change deniers on the right that refuse to embrace reason and evidence. It the textbook editing, theocratic right that wishes to wage war on intellectualism.
You want to talk about government bailouts? It was the left who made issue of the cozy relationship between government, banks, and Wall Street.
Shall we talk about welfare? It is right wing America who receives, by far, the bulk of federal welfare money.
While I do agree that people did not vote for Trump, the person, I wholeheartedly disagree with the claim that they voted this way because they so fervently embrace right wing politics. People are demanding change. People are demanding something different, and Clinton did not offer that.
I know that you probably believe that America had become some sort of Socialist or Communist 'nightmare', but Obama has continued every single policy of George W Bush. He has not implemented any sort of leftist politics. His Healthcare plan is to the right of Romneycare. America has become corporatist. Thats the change that Americans wish to see, whether they realize it or not. We needed a Bernie Sanders, not a Hillary Clinton, or Donald Trump.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#23867241 - 11/25/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: Yeah, reason, evidence, and intelligence. Thats why right-wing leeches in kentucky, georgia, or any number of hill-billy dead-weight states, ca be heard constantly complaining about how looney-leftists out in California are ruining the country. Meanwhile their state economy is subsidized by the output of one of the only civilized and productive states in the damned country. (California)
Redneck right wing America leeches off of liberal America, and then whines about welfare lol.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof] 2
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it truly is mind-boggling
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23867264 - 11/25/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said: We needed a Bernie Sanders, not a Hillary Clinton, or Donald Trump.
what does it say about us as a society when in a series of supposedly free elections, we managed to saddle ourselves with HRC and Trump as the dominant candidates for the highest office in the nation?

On the plus side, i actually don't feel as bad about Trump winning, because as a consolation prize, Hillary lost. It took some of the sting out of it for me, at least in the short term. Still, we gotta get it together in this country within the next couple election cycles, or we're all fucked.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: ballsalsa]
#23867280 - 11/25/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said: We needed a Bernie Sanders, not a Hillary Clinton, or Donald Trump.
what does it say about us as a society when in a series of supposedly free elections, we managed to saddle ourselves with HRC and Trump as the dominant candidates for the highest office in the nation?

On the plus side, i actually don't feel as bad about Trump winning, because as a consolation prize, Hillary lost. It took some of the sting out of it for me, at least in the short term. Still, we gotta get it together in this country within the next couple election cycles, or we're all fucked.
This is proof how horrible Bernice sanders was, it's unbelievable people still want the biggest loser.
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Bigbadwooof said: We needed a Bernie Sanders, not a Hillary Clinton, or Donald Trump.
what does it say about us as a society when in a series of supposedly free elections, we managed to saddle ourselves with HRC and Trump as the dominant candidates for the highest office in the nation?

On the plus side, i actually don't feel as bad about Trump winning, because as a consolation prize, Hillary lost. It took some of the sting out of it for me, at least in the short term. Still, we gotta get it together in this country within the next couple election cycles, or we're all fucked.
This is proof how horrible Bernice sanders was, it's unbelievable people still want the biggest loser.
I don't follow. How does losing an election prove that someone is horrible?
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: ballsalsa]
#23867356 - 11/25/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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He lost to the Hildabeast; had to be pretty ducking bad to lose to that
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#23867457 - 11/25/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is proof how horrible Bernice sanders was, it's unbelievable people still want the biggest loser.
I don't follow. How does losing an election prove that someone is horrible?
I'm assuming you are quoting HU... If so, you'll have to submit that question to Rush Limbaugh. He doesn't form the opinions he propagates on his own. That's too much work!
I think you ought to add 'losing a rigged election'.
And while we are talking about these supposed 'free and fair' elections, let's not forget that the primary was rigged for Clinton, and it was followed by a general that was won by the candidate with the least votes.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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This is proof how horrible Bernice sanders was, it's unbelievable people still want the biggest loser.
I don't follow. How does losing an election prove that someone is horrible?
I'm assuming you are quoting HU... If so, you'll have to submit that question to Rush Limbaugh. He doesn't form the opinions he propagates on his own. That's too much work!
I think you ought to add 'losing a rigged election'.
And while we are talking about these supposed 'free and fair' elections, let's not forget that the primary was rigged for Clinton, and it was followed by a general that was won by the candidate with the least votes.
Ignores me and continues to insult me
***i live rent free in this guys head!
Woofie, no wonder you're so angry, you suck at everything, you don't even know how to ignore people properly, it's kinda pathetic
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23867895 - 11/26/16 05:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: Yeah, reason, evidence, and intelligence. Thats why right-wing leeches in kentucky, georgia, or any number of hill-billy dead-weight states, ca be heard constantly complaining about how looney-leftists out in California are ruining the country. Meanwhile their state economy is subsidized by the output of one of the only civilized and productive states in the damned country. (California)
Redneck right wing America leeches off of liberal America, and then whines about welfare lol.
I imagine that those complaining about welfare... are not the ones taking the welfare.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: ballsalsa]
#23867897 - 11/26/16 05:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: what does it say about us as a society when in a series of supposedly free elections, we managed to saddle ourselves with HRC and Trump as the dominant candidates for the highest office in the nation?
It is pretty embarrassing.
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Still, we gotta get it together in this country within the next couple election cycles, or we're all fucked.
It's not going to happen when so many are arrogant condescending assholes who don't listen to anyone outside their circle jerk and who think the best way to do things is to insult others.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: luvdemshrooms] 1
#23867927 - 11/26/16 05:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Either of these candidates could not possibly have been the best pick of the ENTIRE party. Really?
The point of the electoral college is to represent the opinion of the people, and make the best choice for them in regard to their wishes. This didn't happen this time around. That means for the past 4 years while electing these officials, we'he been asleep at the wheel allowing congressmen, senators, reps, and fuckall else to sit in these powerful seats and do what they want.
WE the people have fucked up,no matter who you voted for l, you cant be happy with the big picture of where we are. There is no REAL winner except the politicians and I'm not sure if D or R matters even. What flavor of fuckery do you want? red or blue? We gotta pull our heads out of our asses and stop thinking picking a president will change a whole lot. Its the polls in between, over the next 4 years that make the difference.
People also need to stop using facebook as a news source.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof] 1
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ballsalsa said: Yeah, reason, evidence, and intelligence. Thats why right-wing leeches in kentucky, georgia, or any number of hill-billy dead-weight states, ca be heard constantly complaining about how looney-leftists out in California are ruining the country. Meanwhile their state economy is subsidized by the output of one of the only civilized and productive states in the damned country. (California)
Redneck right wing America leeches off of liberal America, and then whines about welfare lol.
What a load a crap.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: qman]
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ballsalsa said: Yeah, reason, evidence, and intelligence. Thats why right-wing leeches in kentucky, georgia, or any number of hill-billy dead-weight states, ca be heard constantly complaining about how looney-leftists out in California are ruining the country. Meanwhile their state economy is subsidized by the output of one of the only civilized and productive states in the damned country. (California)
Redneck right wing America leeches off of liberal America, and then whines about welfare lol.
What a load a crap. 
Notice they always preach how much they love helping the downtrodden, unless they are from a red state, then they are vermin, apparently
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: luvdemshrooms] 1
#23868194 - 11/26/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: It's not going to happen when so many are arrogant condescending assholes who don't listen to anyone outside their circle jerk and who think the best way to do things is to insult others.
Well, when I watch guys like Qman glorify Donald Trump, saying he's "been in the trenches" (The draft dodger, mind you), and he is such a fantabulous businessman, therefore he should be president... etc. It's really fucking hard not to. Especially as Trump walks back almost every single one of his campaign promises before he even takes the oval office! I mean, am I supposed to talk to someone like that as if they are a serious person? By the way, I probably have even less respect for the SJW "liberal" assholes out there, so it isn't a partisan thing.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: qman] 1
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ballsalsa said: Yeah, reason, evidence, and intelligence. Thats why right-wing leeches in kentucky, georgia, or any number of hill-billy dead-weight states, ca be heard constantly complaining about how looney-leftists out in California are ruining the country. Meanwhile their state economy is subsidized by the output of one of the only civilized and productive states in the damned country. (California)
Redneck right wing America leeches off of liberal America, and then whines about welfare lol.
What a load a crap. 
http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8
Why don't you observe the facts before taking a position. Oh wait, you are fucking incapable of operating in any sort of rational and intelligent way.
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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23868216 - 11/26/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So now all people In red states are "conservative"?
No wonder he ignores me, I call him on his BS!
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