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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23860486 - 11/23/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I think there is going to be a lot of conspiracy theory hyperbole, both now, and for future elections, that will eventually render all legitimate concerns/complaints useless.




Just like the word 'racist'.




That's exactly what I was thinking when I wrote that.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23860549 - 11/23/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Assuming everyone who uses the machines has enough common sense to make sure their choices are actually being selected. Only seen one example so far of someone claiming their vote for Hillary was switched to Trump, and it turns out they were lying because the machines they were using didn't use pens like they claimed.

Do you have a response to the other video I  posted though?


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23860563 - 11/23/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
I think there is going to be a lot of conspiracy theory hyperbole, both now, and for future elections, that will eventually render all legitimate concerns/complaints useless.




Just like the word 'racist'.




maybe people shouldn't have lynched black people in the street en masse to get their pictures taken for the paper before, if you have a problem with that word, you should consider changing that perception within the public consciousness, without, ya know, denial. make a better case...or just teach your children, and stop making those useless spam posts. :blush:


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23860580 - 11/23/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Akira..you don't live here. You don't see how often that word gets thrown around at the most unnecessary times. It's become a way to silence people with opposing viewpoints, it is almost never used in the right context anymore.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Eminence]
    #23860618 - 11/23/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

i live in Canada...c'mon bro, we invented that retard SJW craze, it's just America loves new bullshit crazes, and your country's idiots ate it up like a chocolate sunday with sprinkles on top.

but we invented it...you can't take that away from us!









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RACIST@!
RACIS!

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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Eminence]
    #23860829 - 11/23/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Do you have a response to the other video I  posted though?



The other video is a guy who supports voter ID laws.  So what?  There is no credible evidence that in-person impersonation voter fraud is even a minor problem anywhere in the country.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23860844 - 11/23/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

..Nevermind then. You guys are so dense :facepalm:


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Eminence]
    #23860869 - 11/23/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

dense...thaaaat's...ra...ra...razzing me, dawg!  :hahawtf:


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Eminence] * 1
    #23860876 - 11/23/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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There is no credible evidence that in-person impersonation voter fraud is even a minor problem anywhere in the country.



..Nevermind then. You guys are so dense :facepalm:



I know - I get it all the time... "Stupid liberals and their ridiculous desire for evidence."


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23861752 - 11/23/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Trump literally never even campaigned in California or New York, if he had, he prolly wouldn't have won those states, but would have surely gotten more votes. Most republicans and independents don't even vote in those states because the vote always goes democrat.

He probably still would win if the EC was done away with.

If whiney bitchy little liberal fucks wanna do away with the EC, I say go for it

***democrats haven't just lost the presidency, they've lost the senate, house, majority of governorships, and a majority of state legislatures. They've been overwhelmingly rejected, and not due to the EC.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23863562 - 11/24/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: EntheogenicPeace] * 1
    #23863592 - 11/24/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The popular vote might backfire.  how many millions of disenfranchised voters, in say, California, would come out to vote R that don't normally vote, it could be millions.  And winner take all states, especially big states like New York and California, might not have as much impact.  There is also the fact that the Electoral is designed so that one big state doesn't have an overbearing effect on the electoral.  That is, the little states have a voice too. 

Maybe a more fair idea for the electoral is:  states have an elector for each representatives district; whoever wins that district gets that elector, and then each state has 2 additional electors for whoever wins the state popular vote.  No more winner take all, then it closely resembles the popular vote, yet still has the wanted characteristics of the electoral, i.e., one or two big states don't decide the president every election.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #23863599 - 11/24/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That alone would definitelt be an improvement


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23863698 - 11/24/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

We have a major issue when it comes to fairly drawing out our districts. If a voting scheme gets people to see voting as more important and meaningful, I wouldn't call that "backfiring," no matter which faction it currently benefits.

Also, the whole concept of "electors"seems a bit archaic. The electors have mostly done the people's will since the end of reconstruction and it seems quite apparent that they wouldn't be able to go "faithless" without inciting massive violence. Trump got like 18% of eligible voters, but a good chunk of the nation would be fucking pissed if Hillary or Romney was chosen by the electors


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #23864412 - 11/24/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #23865616 - 11/25/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Well, at least we are safe from liberal tyranny for 4 more years :shrug:

THe idiots who demand "rule by popular vote" forget that slavery was once majority supported as well, oddly enough it was supported by mostly democrats and liberals, I guess it still is

***the fact that democrats have lost in most states says volumes, liberals are just too fucking stupid to accept their policies are rejected as failures but they'll continue to push them like they always do...

THey won't be happy until everywhere looks like Detroit


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23866582 - 11/25/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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So, now that Trump has lost the popular vote, but won the presidency, due to the impact of the electoral college, I think it's time this nation discuss the usefulness and purpose of the EC. George W Bush won this way also. If it weren't for the EC, Republicans wouldn't have held the oval office once in the past 25 years. Yet they've had 8 years, and have been granted 4 more due to the weighted scale of our democracy.

There's a reason this country polls left on most issues, but elects Donald Trump.




Vast majority of the female population vote left wing, are pro big government, into liberal arts, and women's studies. Complain about the wage gap when majoring in Women's studies or philosophy lol Wage Myths been debunked for ages.

I do not buy this rubbish about she won the popular vote. It just feeds the liberals with green hair and their pity party. You got women with way too much testosterone and men with really low testosterone voting left. Crying white privilege.

Trump caught hell for calling out voter fraud. Documented cases of voter fraud went viral in Texas and Florida. The Clinton campaign is not calling for a recount otherwise, it will be shown she lost by a fucking landslide. It was like a monster truck hitting a pop can. Not even close.

The biggest issue evident over this election is not the landslide loss or the victim tangent of SJWs. Its the bias of mainstream media that clearly has no fucking clue what they are talking about nor do the experts pushing this madam president rubbish. All the social media and social engineering from the left was in vain.

The only media that was showing Trump to win was Info wars, Rebel media, and other alternative medias. The media failed and anybody with logic and reasoning will not listen to their nonsense in future.


Outside mainstream narrative of pity party and leftist sob stories, link source of Hilary winning the popular vote. What was evident, Katy P paid 75k to endorse Clinton. How much was Jay Z or beyonce paid?

What the election showed is that, people do not give a fuck about what Trump said or the fake racism and sexist cries. They want change. They want to see something anti establishment.

Don't worry everyone. Donald Trump will make America great again.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: finalexplosion] * 2
    #23866595 - 11/25/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

he'll make America 80's again.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Crumist] * 1
    #23866848 - 11/25/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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We have a major issue when it comes to fairly drawing out our districts. If a voting scheme gets people to see voting as more important and meaningful, I wouldn't call that "backfiring," no matter which faction it currently benefits.

Also, the whole concept of "electors"seems a bit archaic. The electors have mostly done the people's will since the end of reconstruction and it seems quite apparent that they wouldn't be able to go "faithless" without inciting massive violence. Trump got like 18% of eligible voters, but a good chunk of the nation would be fucking pissed if Hillary or Romney was chosen by the electors




We should have a computer program randomly draw out the districts, instead of people who might wish to gerrymandering them.

We should also get rid of the electoral college. I see no reason to try to make it work with today's politics. Let's just get rid of it.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: finalexplosion] * 2
    #23866881 - 11/25/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
So, now that Trump has lost the popular vote, but won the presidency, due to the impact of the electoral college, I think it's time this nation discuss the usefulness and purpose of the EC. George W Bush won this way also. If it weren't for the EC, Republicans wouldn't have held the oval office once in the past 25 years. Yet they've had 8 years, and have been granted 4 more due to the weighted scale of our democracy.

There's a reason this country polls left on most issues, but elects Donald Trump.




Vast majority of the female population vote left wing, are pro big government, into liberal arts, and women's studies. Complain about the wage gap when majoring in Women's studies or philosophy lol Wage Myths been debunked for ages.

I do not buy this rubbish about she won the popular vote. It just feeds the liberals with green hair and their pity party. You got women with way too much testosterone and men with really low testosterone voting left. Crying white privilege.

Trump caught hell for calling out voter fraud. Documented cases of voter fraud went viral in Texas and Florida. The Clinton campaign is not calling for a recount otherwise, it will be shown she lost by a fucking landslide. It was like a monster truck hitting a pop can. Not even close.

The biggest issue evident over this election is not the landslide loss or the victim tangent of SJWs. Its the bias of mainstream media that clearly has no fucking clue what they are talking about nor do the experts pushing this madam president rubbish. All the social media and social engineering from the left was in vain.

The only media that was showing Trump to win was Info wars, Rebel media, and other alternative medias. The media failed and anybody with logic and reasoning will not listen to their nonsense in future.


Outside mainstream narrative of pity party and leftist sob stories, link source of Hilary winning the popular vote. What was evident, Katy P paid 75k to endorse Clinton. How much was Jay Z or beyonce paid?

What the election showed is that, people do not give a fuck about what Trump said or the fake racism and sexist cries. They want change. They want to see something anti establishment.

Don't worry everyone. Donald Trump will make America great again.




... Wow, what a sweep of ignorant blanket statements. Do you actually believe your own bullshit? I am a very avid (that means enthusiastic) supporter of leftist politics, and I assure you my T levels are just fine, buddy :wink:...

Im not going to read all of your garbage, because I no longer argue with children.  However, I have to say that I am curious if, while you right wingers are bathing in your manliness and high T levels, have you ever quarried why you are so incredibly terrified of everything and everyone who isn't a member of your little club? It's funny to hear Republicans talk about 'rebuilding the military'... I'm sure the humor in that is lost on you though, isn't it?


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