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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #23891790 - 12/03/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Where is your evidence that lower IQ people want free money? Seriously, please provide evidence. There are millions upon millions of low-IQ Republicans who vote against their best interest (increased "welfare" programs) every election.



:awesomenod:

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I don't see how safety net programs (Welfare programs) have 'caused more problems' than they fix. Here's an example:

Food stamps feed people, so that those starving people don't pick up a 12 gauge and raid your pantry. You pay a paltry sum (if anything at all), to afford yourself this luxury (of not being robbed by your starving neighbor).

We do this things so that we can maintain a civilized society. A society, unlike the "3rd world", in which we don't step outside our door every morning to violence, watching children, plagued with disease and starvation, dying in the streets before us, and simultaneously spreading disease.



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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: finalexplosion] * 1
    #23891835 - 12/03/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Areas of higher IQ have less crime, less teen pregnancy and children out of wedlock. Higher IQ people go out, compete in the free market, and win or they learn. Lower IQ people want free money.




sources please?  what constitutes an "area of higher IQ"?  How or we coming up with data to differentiate between high and low IQ areas?

I'm not saying that your argument is complete bullshit.  I'm just saying that your argument sounds like complete bullshit.

Edit: Woofie beat me too it.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #23891843 - 12/03/16 07:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

One more thing I'm curious about. Do you believe that people are inherently lazy? I believe most people are inclined to assert themselves in ways that will improve their situation. Have you ever lived on foodstamps/welfare? I've spent years of my life below the poverty line, and I assure you, it is no paradise.

How about J. K. Rowling? She lived for years on welfare, and then became a billionaire. She gave so much back to the community that sustained her, that she lost her billionaire status. She has expressed immense gratitude for the 'dole' that she was provided.

Did you know that 35.4% of Americans have lived in households that utilized welfare programs at one point or another in their lifetime? Are they all lazy liberals?

She's not the only billionaire who required government assistance at one point in their life, and certainly not the only millionaire. Are all of these people lazy mooches? Should the children of lazy mooches pay the penalty of their lazy moochery? Einstein's are random. They are not the result of blue-blood breeding. You may very well be voting to let the next Einstein starve and struggle, instead of solve world-hunger, and succeed.

Taking a hardline attitude such as yours will only cause greater numbers of Americans to vote for leftist policies, so go right on ahead and preach that sermon! If you succeed, it will be a very short time for you to drive every one of these 'welfare queen' miscreants, and their sympathizers, to vote against you, and let me tell you, that is a lot of fucking people.

By the way, having been a welfare recipient, do you think your IQ is leaps and bounds above my own? Are my attempts at intellectual discussion drastically inferior to yours?


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23891858 - 12/03/16 07:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Areas of higher IQ have less crime, less teen pregnancy and children out of wedlock. Higher IQ people go out, compete in the free market, and win or they learn. Lower IQ people want free money.




sources please?  what constitutes an "area of higher IQ"?  How or we coming up with data to differentiate between high and low IQ areas?

I'm not saying that your argument is complete bullshit.  I'm just saying that your argument sounds like complete bullshit.

Edit: Woofie beat me too it.




I actually think his argument is pretty reasonable (aside from the 'lower IQ people want free money' part), but it doesn't sound empirically supportable, and therefore, it is frivolous conjecture. Maybe he will prove me wrong though.

I don't see what relevance it has anyway. Lower IQ people are still people. They have value. They can even accomplish great things. Their poster-child just became president!

Can YOU do THIS?:



I didn't think so. On his own chessboard, this low IQ motherfucker has you beat every time!


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23891888 - 12/03/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Areas of higher IQ have less crime, less teen pregnancy and children out of wedlock. Higher IQ people go out, compete in the free market, and win or they learn. Lower IQ people want free money.




sources please?  what constitutes an "area of higher IQ"?  How or we coming up with data to differentiate between high and low IQ areas?

I'm not saying that your argument is complete bullshit.  I'm just saying that your argument sounds like complete bullshit.

Edit: Woofie beat me too it.




Yeah well, my posts haven't been very concise these days, so he probably won't even read it. I need to cut some of the fat off of them.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23891904 - 12/03/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
Where is your evidence that lower IQ people want free money? Seriously, please provide evidence. There are millions upon millions of low-IQ Republicans who vote against their best interest (increased "welfare" programs) every election.



:awesomenod:

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Bigbadwooof said:
I don't see how safety net programs (Welfare programs) have 'caused more problems' than they fix. Here's an example:

Food stamps feed people, so that those starving people don't pick up a 12 gauge and raid your pantry. You pay a paltry sum (if anything at all), to afford yourself this luxury (of not being robbed by your starving neighbor).

We do this things so that we can maintain a civilized society. A society, unlike the "3rd world", in which we don't step outside our door every morning to violence, watching children, plagued with disease and starvation, dying in the streets before us, and simultaneously spreading disease.



:cookiemonster:  :toast:




I might add that the Roman's had bread lines, and built the coliseum for good reason. Had they not, all hell would have broken loose. Slave labor displaced workers, made paupers of the mass of people. They had to be pacified. We will likely see a similar event when AI technology matures. Socialism will be the only -ism on the table. Either that, or we will witness tyranny on a scale that is currently unimaginable. Just my speculation.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #23892028 - 12/03/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

let me tell you an anecdotal humble-brag.

I've spent my entire life being told how smart I am, and how i should live up to my potential, etc., etc.
I have a reasonably high IQ. Higher than many, though not as high as some. They put me in extra smart kid classes starting at 8.  The theme of the class that year was entrepreneurship.  In sixth grade they stuck me in an eighth grade math class.  In eighth grade i scored 1180 on the PSAT (not amazing, but not bad).  In 10th grade I took the AP exam in Biology.  I passed with a 3 (nothing special), even though i didn't take the AP Biology class.  In 12th grade I medaled in academic decathlon, and i scored 1380 on the SAT (not amazing, but pretty good).
I graduated high school with a 2.1 GPA.
I did not go to college.
I fucked around being a plumber instead.
right now, I make less than $20,000/yr in the Los Angeles area.
I even take government handouts (pell grant) which i would not be able to afford school without, and Medicaid, which i qualify for due to my very low income (this was useful when i broke my hand last year).
So you tell me, what did my high IQ get me?  I'm not economically different from a "low IQ person" under finalexplosion's paradigm.  But that's not all!  My anecdotal experience extends further!    Because i grew up in special smart kid classes, many of my friends were smart kids.  I know at least 2 people with IQs in the 150s.  They are both habitually unemployable.  they just don't have the inclination to keep a job for more than a year.  I have a buddy with a 140 IQ who is unemployed, trying to milk some workers comp claim, and sitting on $100,000 in student debt. Their High IQs don't seem to translate into economic gain as finalexplosion seems to hypothesize either.  Of course, none of this is proof of anything.  It's just one man's experience.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23892110 - 12/03/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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let me tell you an anecdotal humble-brag.

I've spent my entire life being told how smart I am, and how i should live up to my potential, etc., etc.
I have a reasonably high IQ. Higher than many, though not as high as some. They put me in extra smart kid classes starting at 8.  The theme of the class that year was entrepreneurship.  In sixth grade they stuck me in an eighth grade math class.  In eighth grade i scored 1180 on the PSAT (not amazing, but not bad).  In 10th grade I took the AP exam in Biology.  I passed with a 3 (nothing special), even though i didn't take the AP Biology class.  In 12th grade I medaled in academic decathlon, and i scored 1380 on the SAT (not amazing, but pretty good).
I graduated high school with a 2.1 GPA.
I did not go to college.
I fucked around being a plumber instead.
right now, I make less than $20,000/yr in the Los Angeles area.
I even take government handouts (pell grant) which i would not be able to afford school without, and Medicaid, which i qualify for due to my very low income (this was useful when i broke my hand last year).
So you tell me, what did my high IQ get me?  I'm not economically different from a "low IQ person" under finalexplosion's paradigm.  But that's not all!  My anecdotal experience extends further!    Because i grew up in special smart kid classes, many of my friends were smart kids.  I know at least 2 people with IQs in the 150s.  They are both habitually unemployable.  they just don't have the inclination to keep a job for more than a year.  I have a buddy with a 140 IQ who is unemployed, trying to milk some workers comp claim, and sitting on $100,000 in student debt. Their High IQs don't seem to translate into economic gain as finalexplosion seems to hypothesize either.  Of course, none of this is proof of anything.  It's just one man's experience.




Yep, lots of people with high IQ's don't amount to much (by societal standards). For what it's worth, I think you're one of the brightest fellas on these board. You don't take sides, but you have an unquenchable thirst for knowledge. I dig it.

I think some 'high IQ' people realize that money isn't everything, and they pursue a course in life that makes them happy. Not one that society has deemed 'the pathway to happiness'. I don't know where I rank on the IQ scale, so my life experiences probably aren't terribly pertinent. I know that Sam Harris has an IQ of 170, and he was a bum, practicing 'mysticism' until he was like 40 years old. Then he got his degree in neuroscience.

I have a question for you, out of curiosity though... how affluent were your parents, and your friends parents?


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23892202 - 12/03/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Areas of higher IQ have less crime, less teen pregnancy and children out of wedlock. Higher IQ people go out, compete in the free market, and win or they learn. Lower IQ people want free money.




sources please?  what constitutes an "area of higher IQ"?  How or we coming up with data to differentiate between high and low IQ areas?

I'm not saying that your argument is complete bullshit.  I'm just saying that your argument sounds like complete bullshit.

Edit: Woofie beat me too it.





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The central question of IQ-crime studies is whether individuals with less intelligence, on average, commit more crime than those with more intelligence. That is, are IQ and crime negatively correlated? The best answer, drawn from previous research, is a qualified "yes." Delinquents and criminals average IQ scores 8 to 10 points lower than noncriminals, which is about one-half a standard deviation. IQ and criminal behavior are negatively correlated at about r = -.20 (Hirschi and Hindelang; Wilson and Herrnstein).

http://www.encyclopedia.com/law/legal-and-political-magazines/intelligence-and-crime




This is not ground breaking news guys. This is quite common but, in a culture that is quick to cry foul and victimhood, it is just not commonly discussed.

Even based upon race, there is on average standard differences from IQ, height, athletics, socio-economic status among a variety of other areas though still, very individual. I am not going to get into anything that can be deemed race baiting or racist. I will make this very short. Places of higher IQ tend to have better stability amongst the nuclear family and less children out of wedlock like the places of lower IQ. Lets take this further.

In areas of the world where cousin marriages, incest and inbreeding is common practice, there very low IQ. Not shocking, these places are very dangerous, and typically terrorist ridden areas. You can search links yourself based upon this stuff. Its very fascinating. One link showed a difference as high as 19 point deviation lower then in places where incest/cousin marriages/inbreeding do not exist. Pretty sure you can search reddit and find that shit. I am not linking here.

Disclaimer: When making blanket statements with respect to race, it is racist. When you provided reason, logic, and evidence, this facts. Biologist and scientists do this stuff all the time through experiments. Lets forget race. Lets stick to IQ. Certain people again with lower IQ will scream sexist, racist, and are truly against free speech because they are incapable of intelligent conversation. Language policing, PC, false accusations, etc. are classic examples.

Its all very fascinating stuff. Check it out if your interested. There are podcasts on this stuff and its really long, lengthy, and very informative if your into it. It was first brought to my attention through a podcast.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23892236 - 12/03/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I actually think his argument is pretty reasonable (aside from the 'lower IQ people want free money' part), but it doesn't sound empirically supportable, and therefore, it is frivolous conjecture. Maybe he will prove me wrong though.




The stats and date speak for itself. Lower IQ individuals are quick to victimize themselves rather than take up self ownership, have some accountability, and take responsibility for their own life.

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I don't see what relevance it has anyway. Lower IQ people are still people. They have value. They can even accomplish great things. Their poster-child just became president!
Can YOU do THIS?:
I didn't think so. On his own chessboard, this low IQ motherfucker has you beat every time!




It has the "everybody is equal" connotation. All things are not equal. Yes, individually, we all have value. We are not equal in one's ability to provide, to think critically, to offer value in society as well as one's own life. At our very essence, yes, we are valuable, and we will end up in the same place when our life ends. Lower IQ individuals are more reliant on government, on victimhood, and are adverse to competition. In the words of a wise man, "Winner focus on winning."


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23892280 - 12/03/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
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ballsalsa said:
let me tell you an anecdotal humble-brag.

I've spent my entire life being told how smart I am, and how i should live up to my potential, etc., etc.
I have a reasonably high IQ. Higher than many, though not as high as some. They put me in extra smart kid classes starting at 8.  The theme of the class that year was entrepreneurship.  In sixth grade they stuck me in an eighth grade math class.  In eighth grade i scored 1180 on the PSAT (not amazing, but not bad).  In 10th grade I took the AP exam in Biology.  I passed with a 3 (nothing special), even though i didn't take the AP Biology class.  In 12th grade I medaled in academic decathlon, and i scored 1380 on the SAT (not amazing, but pretty good).
I graduated high school with a 2.1 GPA.
I did not go to college.
I fucked around being a plumber instead.
right now, I make less than $20,000/yr in the Los Angeles area.
I even take government handouts (pell grant) which i would not be able to afford school without, and Medicaid, which i qualify for due to my very low income (this was useful when i broke my hand last year).
So you tell me, what did my high IQ get me?  I'm not economically different from a "low IQ person" under finalexplosion's paradigm.  But that's not all!  My anecdotal experience extends further!    Because i grew up in special smart kid classes, many of my friends were smart kids.  I know at least 2 people with IQs in the 150s.  They are both habitually unemployable.  they just don't have the inclination to keep a job for more than a year.  I have a buddy with a 140 IQ who is unemployed, trying to milk some workers comp claim, and sitting on $100,000 in student debt. Their High IQs don't seem to translate into economic gain as finalexplosion seems to hypothesize either.  Of course, none of this is proof of anything.  It's just one man's experience.




Yep, lots of people with high IQ's don't amount to much (by societal standards). For what it's worth, I think you're one of the brightest fellas on these board. You don't take sides, but you have an unquenchable thirst for knowledge. I dig it.

I think some 'high IQ' people realize that money isn't everything, and they pursue a course in life that makes them happy. Not one that society has deemed 'the pathway to happiness'. I don't know where I rank on the IQ scale, so my life experiences probably aren't terribly pertinent. I know that Sam Harris has an IQ of 170, and he was a bum, practicing 'mysticism' until he was like 40 years old. Then he got his degree in neuroscience.

I have a question for you, out of curiosity though... how affluent were your parents, and your friends parents?




When i was a little boy, my parents shopped at thrift stores and pic-n-save.  I wouldn't say we were poor exactly, but whatever extra money they had, they spent it on keeping me in a small private school because we lived in a bad neighborhood. My mom moved to a better neighborhood, and gradually accumulated some wealth over the years, but always had to work night shifts and overtime to make it in the fancy neighborhood she moved us to.  We were still "poor" by the standards of the neighborhood, but she has some money nowadays.  My dad never really recovered financially from his divorce, and is as poor as anyone i know, though he has made good money at various times in his life. long story short, by the time i was in smart kid classes, I lived in an affluent area. (median home price was probably $300,000 back in the 90's when i moved there).


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: finalexplosion]
    #23892324 - 12/03/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The central question of IQ-crime studies is whether individuals with less intelligence, on average, commit more crime than those with more intelligence. That is, are IQ and crime negatively correlated? The best answer, drawn from previous research, is a qualified "yes." Delinquents and criminals average IQ scores 8 to 10 points lower than noncriminals, which is about one-half a standard deviation. IQ and criminal behavior are negatively correlated at about r = -.20 (Hirschi and Hindelang; Wilson and Herrnstein).

http://www.encyclopedia.com/law/legal-and-political-magazines/intelligence-and-crime




You can search links yourself based upon this stuff. 

I am not linking here.

There are podcasts on this stuff and its really long, lengthy, and very informative if your into it. It was first brought to my attention through a podcast.





less than 1/2 standard deviation?  That's an almost insignificant difference in IQ.
Example:
Bob has an IQ of 90
Slob has an IQ of 110

Which one is normal, and which is a dummy?
Neither, they are both within the normal range.

Even if true, this has nothing to do with "high and low IQ areas"  you haven't provided any evidence that people of similar IQ self segregate when choosing housing options.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23892358 - 12/03/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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ballsalsa said:
Quote:

finalexplosion said:


Quote:

The central question of IQ-crime studies is whether individuals with less intelligence, on average, commit more crime than those with more intelligence. That is, are IQ and crime negatively correlated? The best answer, drawn from previous research, is a qualified "yes." Delinquents and criminals average IQ scores 8 to 10 points lower than noncriminals, which is about one-half a standard deviation. IQ and criminal behavior are negatively correlated at about r = -.20 (Hirschi and Hindelang; Wilson and Herrnstein).

http://www.encyclopedia.com/law/legal-and-political-magazines/intelligence-and-crime




You can search links yourself based upon this stuff. 

I am not linking here.

There are podcasts on this stuff and its really long, lengthy, and very informative if your into it. It was first brought to my attention through a podcast.





less than 1/2 standard deviation?  That's an almost insignificant difference in IQ.
Example:
Bob has an IQ of 90
Slob has an IQ of 110

Which one is normal, and which is a dummy?
Neither, they are both within the normal range.

Even if true, this has nothing to do with "high and low IQ areas"  you haven't provided any evidence that people of similar IQ self segregate when choosing housing options.




There is a series of them. Just search it. The first podcast that brought this to my attention was FDR/Stefan Molyneux. You can also search on IQ and cousin marriages/incest/inbreeding. 19 standard deviation lower one link suggested in contrast to places where that does not occur. I wont debate you on semantics. Lower IQ and crime correlate. Places where inbreeding/incest/cousin marriages occur with lower IQ people. Furthermore, the byproduct is an abomination. Places of lower IQ have more issues with crime, terrorism, violence, rapey, etc.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: finalexplosion]
    #23892372 - 12/03/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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finalexplosion said:
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ballsalsa said:
Quote:

finalexplosion said:


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The central question of IQ-crime studies is whether individuals with less intelligence, on average, commit more crime than those with more intelligence. That is, are IQ and crime negatively correlated? The best answer, drawn from previous research, is a qualified "yes." Delinquents and criminals average IQ scores 8 to 10 points lower than noncriminals, which is about one-half a standard deviation. IQ and criminal behavior are negatively correlated at about r = -.20 (Hirschi and Hindelang; Wilson and Herrnstein).

http://www.encyclopedia.com/law/legal-and-political-magazines/intelligence-and-crime




You can search links yourself based upon this stuff. 

I am not linking here.

There are podcasts on this stuff and its really long, lengthy, and very informative if your into it. It was first brought to my attention through a podcast.





less than 1/2 standard deviation?  That's an almost insignificant difference in IQ.
Example:
Bob has an IQ of 90
Slob has an IQ of 110

Which one is normal, and which is a dummy?
Neither, they are both within the normal range.

Even if true, this has nothing to do with "high and low IQ areas"  you haven't provided any evidence that people of similar IQ self segregate when choosing housing options.




There is a series of them. Just search it. The first podcast that brought this to my attention was FDR/Stefan Molyneux. You can also search on IQ and cousin marriages/incest/inbreeding. 19 standard deviation lower one link suggested in contrast to places where that does not occur. I wont debate you on semantics. Lower IQ and crime correlate. Places where inbreeding/incest/cousin marriages occur with lower IQ people. Furthermore, the byproduct is an abomination. Places of lower IQ have more issues with crime, terrorism, violence, rapey, etc.




19 standard deviations lower?  That's something like a negative 280 IQ.  Where are these magical places with gene-pools unaffected by inbreeding?  Can you give me one specific example of a "High IQ area", and one specific example of a "Low IQ area"?


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23892399 - 12/03/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Lower IQ people want free money.



Where is your evidence that lower IQ people want free money? Seriously, please provide evidence. There are millions upon millions of low-IQ Republicans who vote against their best interest (increased "welfare" programs) every election.



:awesomenod:



...his argument is pretty reasonable (aside from the 'lower IQ people want free money' part)



I agree as well.  Exept the part that low IQ people want free money more than anyone else.  That I need evidence for.


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    #23893234 - 12/04/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I agree as well.  Exept the part that low IQ people want free money more than anyone else.  That I need evidence for.




:awesomenod:

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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Crumist]
    #23894582 - 12/04/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

shoplifters are much more likely to be earning $70k a year or more, than living under the poverty level.


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    #23894867 - 12/04/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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19 standard deviations lower?  That's something like a negative 280 IQ.  Where are these magical places with gene-pools unaffected by inbreeding?  Can you give me one specific example of a "High IQ area", and one specific example of a "Low IQ area"?




I feel like you want to go in circles. How is this hard to understand? INCEST/COUSIN MARRIAGE/INBREEDING trashes IQ. AGAIN, PLACES OF LOWER IQ have more crime, are more violent, have children out of wedlock, and are heavily populated with terrorism.

Search. Links on reddit.

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I've spent my entire life being told how smart I am, and how i should live up to my potential, etc., etc.
I have a reasonably high IQ.




This is classic of Lib propaganda.

If a scientific experiment had data that showed Asian communities have higher IQ, finding one lower IQ Asian individual doesn't disregard the facts. It would make for an anomaly.
That would be like if another experiment showed Asians as being relatively smaller on average and you argued, you found one tall Asian person lol

A prime example is that Democratic party sampling Democrats and claiming a 92% landslide Clinton victory. Then, they woke up.

Again, HILARIOUS!

Going back to bringing reason, logic, and evidence goes a long way.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: finalexplosion] * 1
    #23894906 - 12/04/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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19 standard deviations lower?  That's something like a negative 280 IQ.  Where are these magical places with gene-pools unaffected by inbreeding?  Can you give me one specific example of a "High IQ area", and one specific example of a "Low IQ area"?




I feel like you want to go in circles. How is this hard to understand? INCEST/COUSIN MARRIAGE/INBREEDING trashes IQ. AGAIN, PLACES OF LOWER IQ have more crime, are more violent, have children out of wedlock, and are heavily populated with terrorism.

Search. Links on reddit.

Contrary to lib tangents, all things are not equal.




so, just to reiterate, you don't have any evidence to support your claims.
You can't name one place on earth unaffected by inbreeding.
You can't provide one specific example of a High IQ area, and one of a Low IQ area.

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If a scientific experiment had data that showed Asian communities have higher IQ, finding one lower IQ Asian individual doesn't disregard the facts. It would make for an anomaly.





thats a big IF.  Can you provide such experimental data?


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let's see some of that evidence then


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