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Is science too "sciencey"?
#23852571 - 11/20/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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No. Many people just fail to spend the time necessary to grasp it or search out scientific facts conveyed in a manner that they can understand.
There are hundreds if not thousands of videos on youtube that explain even quantum physics to the lay. Seek with an open heart and mind and ye shall find.
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Without science we would not have invented the vajazzle!

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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: phio]
#23852639 - 11/20/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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And in another hundred years there will be another thousand or so saying how incorrect today's were.
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OrgoneConclusion said: Without science we would not have invented the vajazzle!


Necessity blah blah.
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: pineninja] 1
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is this post to posty?
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OrgoneConclusion said: Without science we would not have invented the vajazzle!


I thought that was a swarm of insects on her cooch at first.
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is this post to posty? 
Did you know that a marketing genius got paid $200,000 for coming up with the name Juicy Juice? College degree FTW.
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: pineninja]
#23852711 - 11/20/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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pineninja said: And in another hundred years there will be another thousand or so saying how incorrect today's were.
Pretty much which is why I always take it with a grain of salt ..
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Real science is magical and awesome.
The cult of scientism is depressing, dreary and full of the same self-aggrandising shit as all other shit religions.
Members of the cult of scientism are always materialists, and they always believe that their belief in physicalism makes them morally superior to those who don't have it (despite the evidence). That's how you can pick them.
These guys are too sciency and need to let loose and get laid.
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: viktor]
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viktor said: Real science is magical and awesome.
The cult of scientism is depressing, dreary and full of the same self-aggrandising shit as all other shit religions.
Members of the cult of scientism are always materialists, and they always believe that their belief in physicalism makes them morally superior to those who don't have it (despite the evidence). That's how you can pick them.
These guys are too sciency and need to let loose and get laid.
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: phio]
#23852905 - 11/20/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those "science" ads everywhere on the internet. LMAO\
"SCIENCE JUST FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE UR DICK BIGGER AND UR BOOBS HUGE AND FOUND OUT THIS FOOD KILLS CANCER - SCIENTISTS ARE GOING CRAZY OVER IT "
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: viktor]
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viktor said: Real science is magical and awesome.
The cult of scientism is depressing, dreary and full of the same self-aggrandising shit as all other shit religions.
Members of the cult of scientism are always materialists, and they always believe that their belief in physicalism makes them morally superior to those who don't have it (despite the evidence). That's how you can pick them.
These guys are too sciency and need to let loose and get laid.
Science tends to go with what is testable and obeservable, things spirituality is not.
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: Thanatos10] 1
#23853099 - 11/21/16 12:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: metalfaith]
#23853156 - 11/21/16 01:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanatos read "Beliefs" by Aldous Huxley (an essay). I'm sure if you Google it...
Pretty much saves me typing my own essay on the topic here for you.
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: viktor]
#23853326 - 11/21/16 05:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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viktor said: Real science is magical and awesome.
The cult of scientism is depressing, dreary and full of the same self-aggrandising shit as all other shit religions.
Members of the cult of scientism are always materialists, and they always believe that their belief in physicalism makes them morally superior to those who don't have it (despite the evidence). That's how you can pick them.
These guys are too sciency and need to let loose and get laid.
As the Great Pacific Genocide continues, scientists are baffled, scientists are mystified. They know how to create a nuclear plant, but no idea how to stop nuclear leaks. None, zero. Scientists are baffled, scientists are mystified.
The ice wall really doesn't count.
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: pineninja]
#23853336 - 11/21/16 05:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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pineninja said: And in another hundred years there will be another thousand or so saying how incorrect today's were.
In another 100 years, the earth will be so polluted with radiation and unless they stop spraying coal ash everywhere, coal ash everywhere, that life will be pretty much gone. We've lost 60% of the earth's wildlife in the last 40 years, and that trend is quickening not slowing. The global warming/methane releases are picking up that feedback loop is a real problem. The radiation from Fukushima is the greatest catastrophe ever, ever, yet the greatest crime ever of the cover up continues. Wonder just what the Trumps were talking to the PM of Japan about in secret? Fukushima. It's a disaster of EPIC proportions.
Meanwhile, marine biologists are baffled, they are mystified.
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There have also been (according to wikipedia) at least 2120 nuclear bomb tests on earth. That's all got to have had some effect too. I'm not really sure what to make of nuclear radiation. Chernobyl and Pripyat are apparently full of wildlife nowadays despite the radiation. Maybe it's a case of what doesn't kill you makes you stronger?
We (collective of humans and our mainstream science) tend to think we know it all with science, but we don't know shit.
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: wicca mixer]
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wicca mixer said: There have also been (according to wikipedia) at least 2120 nuclear bomb tests on earth. That's all got to have had some effect too. I'm not really sure what to make of nuclear radiation. Chernobyl and Pripyat are apparently full of wildlife nowadays despite the radiation. Maybe it's a case of what doesn't kill you makes you stronger?
We (collective of humans and our mainstream science) tend to think we know it all with science, but we don't know shit.
Or it's a case of what doesn't kill you makes you sick and gives you cancer? Radiation "treatment" along with chemo and/or surgery being a cure to something doesn't mean it's a good thing, just a last ditch effort to prolong the misery.
In Japan after Fukushima the leader said if you smile the radiation won't affect you. It is deflected by the curvature uplift of your mouth. Let a smile be your umbrella, as it were.
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The Blind Ass said: online forum ignorance never ceases to be a source of amazement for me.
As a prince dies, a baby cries. Purple Reign, Purple Reign.
Well I hope you think that radiation is bad, that you don't think it's somehow making you stronger by not killing you softly with its song. I mean you seem to be giving me some flack.
Sure, you can try to keep up with the Jones but this guy is on his game.
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Why didn't science figure out a way to stop us breeding to the point of ecological collapse? That's what I want an answer for.
Or maybe it did but religion stopped it.
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: viktor]
#23854277 - 11/21/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think so.
It is my belief you can figure out the secrets of the Universe with common sense alone. You really don't need math and this and that.
The wisest men in the history of our existence have all stood by one principle: Everything you need to know is within yourself.
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Science invented the cork, the rubber band, scissors and the vacuum cleaner. What more do you require for birth control?
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: viktor]
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viktor said: Why didn't science figure out a way to stop us breeding to the point of ecological collapse? That's what I want an answer for.
Or maybe it did but religion stopped it.
Science made it possible for us to live side by side. It's called indoor plumbing/sewers. People used to shit in the streets which caused problems. Now it's just dogs that shit in the streets which people seem to think is "fertilizer". Dog owners and cigarette smokers are two of the rudest assholes in the world. The absolute worst is a cigarette smoking dog owner who used to let his dog shit in my yard while he smoked a butt then would drop his butt on the yard to boot. I literally put out a box with all his butt collected in it as a hint, he dropped the empty pack in there just to further piss me off.
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The Blind Ass said: online forum ignorance never ceases to be a source of amazement for me.
As a prince dies, a baby cries. Purple Reign, Purple Reign.
Well I hope you think that radiation is bad, that you don't think it's somehow making you stronger by not killing you softly with its song. I mean you seem to be giving me some flack.
Sure, you can try to keep up with the Jones but this guy is on his game.
Im not giving you any flack, I know radiation is damaging. I know its employed by professionals for cancer treatment, but its awful - I have been through it , my Aunt has been through it, my grandfather has too, and if your lucky it damages the cancer cells in time before they take over, but not the healthy ones too much .. talk about a thin line no?. No flack to you - that was directed at no one in general. Just the general ignorance is amazing. Stay perky, friend.
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LE talks in musical riddles. He was referencing Roberta Flack.
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: viktor]
#23855112 - 11/21/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why didn't science figure out a way to stop us breeding to the point of ecological collapse?
The 10 million species that have gone extinct speak to the reality of the situation.
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23858744 - 11/22/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why didn't science figure out a way to stop us breeding to the point of ecological collapse?
The 10 million species that have gone extinct speak to the reality of the situation.
"Why didn't science..." well science requires funding
With CRISPR it should now be quite possible... guys like Elon Musk would rather spend billions on going to mars and Jeff Bezos on making even more billions and we all know about governments and corporate corruption so the powers that be and those with concentrated wealth aren't really interested and don't really 'think outside the box'
it remains to be seen what china, (and maybe India) where there is much less regulation, and there is science expertise (and perhaps a population problem) does with CRISPR in the coming decade
I think even the more likeable British billionaire Sir Richard Charles Branson is more interested in Space travel than any other science research
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: laughingdog]
#23858773 - 11/22/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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There are so many space species out there that we need to wipe out. It is a mighty big job, but I think we can do it!
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"Science" does not figure out social problems. Or any thing else for that matter. Its a method. And its applied to the major schools of natural study.
PEOPLE may use research that someone in the certain field has discovered through the scientific method and backing experiment to implement something to create some type of effect on society, thats all though.
Just like "science" did not make weapons. The Atom Bomb for example. Research using the scientific method and experiments led to the discovery of splitting atoms , thats all.
People then took that knowledge and implemented it for their own goals.
Science is not what half of you belive it is.
Science is not responsible, it is a tool, and a tool is never responsible.
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What about the prime directive?
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Stop confusing and stop saying " SCIENCE RESEARCH" when really you are referring to corporations and entities and individuals using research to implement there own agendas. It is not the same.
oh and to that one guy : Extinction is the rule , survival is the exception.
Its the way it goes.
A scientist may uncover that his hypothesis was not proved wrong by his experiment, that is all.
From that someone may buy his research and use it for their own agenda. Then it moves out of the field of science and into something else, or maybe it is combined with other research that has been purchased and put to make something that furthers one goals or agenda, aka a machine.
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: Rahz]
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Rahz said: What about the prime directive?
Kirk fucked the Prime Directive in the ass every third episode. Of course, they always had a rational reason for such a violation, like all leaders/politicians do.
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OrgoneConclusion said: Without science we would not have invented the vajazzle!


This was the first reason I supported science, then all the other fields it has benefited, like the medical field.
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The medical one's a good one ay.
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OrgoneConclusion said: Without science we would not have invented the vajazzle!
pardon my 'autistic' view of the matter
But it's not an improvement for either women or men
sticking tiny sharp objects around a bodily orifice that hemorrhages blood monthly is plain stupid
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if a man needs fake jewels around a vagina to enjoy a woman's sexuality he is an ass
and the dangers are actually both very real and obvious just check the web
is making fun of science by finding stupid examples of fashion especially ones that are supposed to have a 'naughty' or 'risque' element really supposed to be great humor?
or, one might wonder, is it a fear of being seen as gay that motivates many men, to posture as real men, by laughing at dumb stuff related to sexuality, and to thus indicate they are aroused by the same things other men are?
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: laughingdog]
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Because of your astute and in-depth analysis of my sexual insecurity, I am sending you a pair of snuggly Freudian Slippers for Christmas.

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OrgoneConclusion said: Because of your astute and in-depth analysis of my sexual insecurity, I am sending you a pair of snuggly Freudian Slippers for Christmas.

(I am keeping the va-jay-jay for myself!)
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: Rahz]
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indeed due my fear of intimacy I offend everyone equally
now you are all united
for a
HAPPY THANKSGIVING
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I had no idea you celebrate Thanksgiving in England!
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Re: Is science too "sciencey"? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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Your ancestors have to had killed some gentle Native Americans for you to properly celebrate Thanksgiving; otherwise what is the point?
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Ax him to translate a sentience. He will surprise you with his cleverness.
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