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OfflinePatlal
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Your thoughts on declawing cats? * 6
    #23852139 - 11/20/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Essentially the claw of a cat in one of its knuckles. It the equivalent of cutting the tip of your fingers. Although there are human advantages to declawing you cats (damage to furniture), there is 0 advantages for the cat. It only cripples them. They can no longer fight, they cat no longer grab on to something when they jump, they can't grab a hold of something. They are crippled.

New Jersey (of all states) just recently banned declawing of cat with a 1000$ and or 6 months in prison to any vet that does it. Progress in my opinion.

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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Patlal]
    #23852141 - 11/20/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's bullshit.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Patlal] * 3
    #23852147 - 11/20/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Against it.


However, I am pro fisting.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: vandago]
    #23852365 - 11/20/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think it is fucked up, how hard is it to keep your stuff out of reach fom your pets? I get with furniture it is hard but train your pets FFS. Get em toys.

I also think putting animals in kennels for more then a couple hours is extremely cruel, clearly some animals can handle it better then others but still.

Pets have to undergo a lot of abuse often times and much of it gets overlooked becouse it is so common.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #23852385 - 11/20/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I do not support.  Don't currently own a pussy but IMO a pussy without claws is not a pussy worth having.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: moonrockmushy] * 7
    #23852410 - 11/20/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: OhMrJohnson] * 1
    #23852419 - 11/20/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I really love the idea of declawing those little fuckers for sure.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: volcomstoner] * 1
    #23852433 - 11/20/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

lol yep, cats are generally assholes and deserve to have their weapons taken from them.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: volcomstoner]
    #23852438 - 11/20/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I really love the idea of declawing those little fuckers for sure.




Shouldn't even be around in the first place. Do nothing other than eat and shit and get hair and dander all over the place.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: volcomstoner]
    #23852442 - 11/20/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't really have strong feelings about it one way or the other, but it's probably good to have the option in case the cat is a dick. I've never had a cat as a pet and probably never will. Thankfully I grew out of my cat allergy but my wife is very allergic to them.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: drawde] * 1
    #23852445 - 11/20/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Fuck you guys.  I don't even like pussy but I would claw your dicks off in solidarity.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Patlal]
    #23852473 - 11/20/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I dont declaw my cats, I will clip the tips off if I feel they have an issue with
the claws on my furniture but I'd never declaw them. to me it's inhumane


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23852502 - 11/20/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My cat loves to bite all my wires. I would consider de toothing before declawing. De toothing cats is more humane than declawing.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23852520 - 11/20/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My thoughts? that its cruel and unnecessary. If you can't provide scratching posts/surfaces for your cat, you shouldnt have one in the first place.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23852550 - 11/20/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Fuck you guys.  I don't even like pussy but I would claw your dicks off in solidarity.



Unlike a man who "doesn't like pussy" my dick is actually useful. So please don't do it brahh


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23852555 - 11/20/16 07:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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lol yep, cats are generally assholes and deserve to have their weapons taken from them.




True.

My cat loves to extend his claws when on my lap when i pet him. Drives me MAD.

I wish i could declaw him but i know it would scar him for life and might change his personality forever.

But i would love a declawed cat.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: volcomstoner]
    #23852559 - 11/20/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Declawing cats is cruel. 

That being said I inherited a 16 year old cat that was declawed as a kitten.  Other than being a little senile from age he seems okay.  He is a bit of a biter though.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #23852570 - 11/20/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

against obviously


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23852660 - 11/20/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

it's pretty fucked up considering you could just take em to petco to have their claws clipped if you really thought it was that big of a deal


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #23852688 - 11/20/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Declawing cats is just wrong. It's like surgically removing their fingers and they have no idea why you did it.

De clawed cats tend to be more aggressive and resort to biting rather than scratching. If they get in a fight they have no effective way of defending themselves.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Canadian Jesus]
    #23852701 - 11/20/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think its horrible.

My cat has her claws.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23852709 - 11/20/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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My cat loves to bite all my wires. I would consider de toothing before declawing. De toothing cats is more humane than declawing.





all it takes if for them to bite the ones coming from the walls and that shit sorts it's self out


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23852733 - 11/20/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not sure if I really hate cat's, or if i just hate it when the broads I'm fucking have to anthropomorphize their pets. It's not a child and will never replace one, stop lying to yourself.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: volcomstoner]
    #23852742 - 11/20/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Just kill them, easier.
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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: volcomstoner] * 1
    #23852758 - 11/20/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

To me it's like pulling out all your teeth and saying "well you don't need your teeth. Plenty of soft food you can gum mash." and then something happens and you get stranded and hope someone will be nice enough to chew up your MRE or squirrel for you.


I got in the middle of a cat fight once (a literal one) and I picked of of them up and she sliced my forearm up so bad I had to explain to more than a few people it wasn't a suicide attempt. I didn't ask my gf to get the cat declawed. I picked its ass up by the scruff and shook and yelled at it while I was bleeding and then held her with my one good arm till I was certain she would be submissive. We had a few more training sessions but she never did scratch me again.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: volcomstoner]
    #23852760 - 11/20/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm not sure if I really hate cat's, or if i just hate it when the broads I'm fucking have to anthropomorphize their pets. It's not a child and will never replace one, stop lying to yourself.




You'd teach your child to behave and in a way they'd understand. Or at least try to. But besides litterbox training I've known very few people who even think cats can be trained.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23852787 - 11/20/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I train my cats to conduct espionage, they're ruthless killers.
Taking away their claws would be counterproductive.


Cats have been around in households forever to eat rodents, they do a good job at it and declawing them / locking them indoors just turns them into useless bags of fat like those soulless beady-eyed frufru purse dogs (Pomeranians, Chihuahuas, etc)


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23852855 - 11/20/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Agreed. I don't see why we can't let pets be animals. Just cuz they're our companions doesn't mean they're completely malleable into whatever we want. Cat tears up your furniture buy a scratching post. That's how they manicure themselves. Cat scratches you do something it doesn't like (I support the spray bottle method.) and if that fails there are other methods but most times ime when they're little hellions it's cuz theyre fucking bored and their owner doesn't let them play and explore, as is in their nature.


You guys remember that cat that attacked the family and they called 911? it passed through another owner before coming to an experienced owner who understands cat behavior. Last I saw the cat didn't scratch anyone and would let the lady pick him up and sit in her lap and stuff.


So many people wanna call animals evil and it sadly is often because they don't understand animals and their examples of evil pets is almost always a case of an animal owned by someone who is just as ignorant.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 3
    #23852870 - 11/20/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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To me it's like pulling out all your teeth and saying "well you don't need your teeth. Plenty of soft food you can gum mash." and then something happens and you get stranded and hope someone will be nice enough to chew up your MRE or squirrel for you..





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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23852879 - 11/20/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Cat scratches you do something it doesn't like (I support the spray bottle method.




That works for awhile, they get used to it eventually but they should be well behaved by then.
You can also blow on their ears  :lol:

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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23852907 - 11/20/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Cats should have claws, people that declaw their cats should be bound, gagged, and shot.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Lucis]
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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23853216 - 11/21/16 02:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Against it. My cats are very much outdoor cats and need that shit to survive. While they are in indoors, there's plenty of designated scratching materials for them to use.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23853217 - 11/21/16 02:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My parents had our cats declawed while I was growing up, but I would never declaw, personally.

Most veterinarians advise against it, as you're literally taking away part of their paw not just the nail. Cats have claws for a reason.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: x Ju x]
    #23853231 - 11/21/16 03:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

In much of europe declawing cats is considered animal abuse, like debeaking chickens.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #23853256 - 11/21/16 03:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's only going to cause worse behavioral issues down the road.  The cats I've had weren't declawed but had only small issues with needing to sharpen them on inconvenient surfaces, so I stapled some small inexpensive rugs to rough corners of our laundry room and she uses those as a scratching post.  She barely ever uses her claws to play, and if she starts to, you know it's time to probably leave her alone.  She has caught countless mice and probably keeps many more away.  I have a large dog and she is a great playmate for it, they make a great time.  The dog handles outdoor critters and the cat handles indoor ones.  Taking their claws is usually a lifelong pain sort of situation which makes them resort to biting (harder) a lot more often than they normally would.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: idiotek] * 1
    #23853291 - 11/21/16 04:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think it's wrong. I also think having an "indoor" cat is wrong.

Cats are cool they descend from lions and shit. Natural predators. I was so happy when my cat brought home a rat and a bird in one day. Shit good work little homie I don't even know how you catch a bird. :lol:


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23853307 - 11/21/16 05:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Some breeds of cat can't survive on their own. If I let my ragdoll cat outside he would probable die immediately or be catnapped.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23853313 - 11/21/16 05:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've always had predator cats. As that's why we had them. First cat we ever had was for a mouse problem. We didn't have a mouse problem anymore.

But I guess I've never much considered that we bred them to uselessness like freaking chihuahuas.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23853320 - 11/21/16 05:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah he's definitely useless. The only thing he has to offer is his cuteness, that is how he survives. but he's on thin ice right now because as I said he has been biting my cords and meowing way too much lately.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23853378 - 11/21/16 06:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm not sure if I really hate cat's, or if i just hate it when the broads I'm fucking have to anthropomorphize their pets. It's not a child and will never replace one, stop lying to yourself.




You'd teach your child to behave and in a way they'd understand. Or at least try to. But besides litterbox training I've known very few people who even think cats can be trained.



While its not necessarily training, attuning your cat to expending its energy outside will do wonders for its sanity and make it 10000% chiller when its hanging out inside most times.


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    #23853384 - 11/21/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm happy with the results of this poll and the general reactions to it. I thought declawing would have been more popular for some reason. There was a trend in the 90 where every cat were declawed and it was the norm.

To me it's animal abuse. We already chop off there balls and tie their tubes. I think that's enough cutting things off the animal.

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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Patlal]
    #23853424 - 11/21/16 07:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

and u still have your kitty ballz too. Tis a good day for Patlal's Kitty Ballz.


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    #23853431 - 11/21/16 07:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think its beyond asshole-ish behavior to declaw a cat. Anyone who does this should commit suicide instantly


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23853437 - 11/21/16 07:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

People who get their cats declawed should have their fingers chopped off while they're at it. Or just get severely beaten then have their hands crushed beyond all recognition with a maul. Fucking piece of shit human garbage who should just off themselves already.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: idiotek]
    #23853480 - 11/21/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Some breeds of cat can't survive on their own. If I let my ragdoll cat outside he would probable die immediately or be catnapped.




Is that him in your avatar? i can see why you think so. He looks rather slow.

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idiotek said: I have a large dog and she is a great playmate for it, they make a great time.  The dog handles outdoor critters and the cat handles indoor ones.  Taking their claws is usually a lifelong pain sort of situation which makes them resort to biting (harder) a lot more often than they normally would.




My childhood cat was an utter badass. He'd play with our pitbull and latch on to her neck and kick her face with his back paws. Meanwhile she'd be wagging her tail and yapping at him. :lol: It was fucking cute.

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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Patlal]
    #23853530 - 11/21/16 08:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

"Let's cut out their genitals but draw the line at removing their weapons" :rofl: I don't really care one way or another because I don't like cats (see below) and won't have one in my home. Their claws are really never going to have any impact on my life (again) so "meh". I don't really think of it as a totally unnecessary procedure though. Not like cropping a dog's ears or docking it's tail. There is some practicality behind it besides "I don't want it to tear up my furniture".

My grandparents took in an abandoned kitten that my aunt found at her parent's nursery. That cat grew up to be one mean son of a bitch. It used to chase people around the house like a rabid dog. This was when I was really young so I couldn't tell you why it grew up to be so mean, nor why it was kept when it was obviously a very aggressive little shit. One day though, it went far more psycho than normal and it chose me as the target and started attacking my head. I ended up with a lot of stitches (and since I was bleeding so badly it was done without the benefit of any pain meds/anesthesia which is why I now have a phobia of needles) that I otherwise wouldn't have if it were declawed. After it attacked me, my grandparents finally did what they should've done long before then and took it to the pound. I really doubt it found a home so it ended up most likely getting suffocated in a box with 20 other unwanted animals. While I admit those are pretty specific circumstances, there IS an argument to be made FOR declawing. That cat was a real danger to people but if it were declawed the threat would be far less and it just might get to live out it's natural shitty little life.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23853536 - 11/21/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My cat still has his balls too. Not going to fuck with him at all.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Patlal]
    #23853542 - 11/21/16 08:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't read anything in this thread so I don't know which way the argument is flowing but declawing cats is inhumane and fucked up.

So many complications associated with this practice and it can cause serious pain for the animal.  Not to mention it can affect the way they walk, change their personality and if they ever get loose they have no way of defending themselves.


Im 200% against declawing cats :mad2:


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23853545 - 11/21/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

that's fucked up dude

the cat was obviously abused
feral cats don't act like that


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Konyap]
    #23853551 - 11/21/16 08:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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that's fucked up dude

the cat was obviously abused
feral cats don't act like that





That's what I was thinking.  I have had cats my entire life, since I was little probably have had over 20-30 pet cats since I was a baby and living at home and not once have we had a cat like that.  I have seen cats like that and they were mistreated, misunderstood and abused.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23853559 - 11/21/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
Quote:

mt cleverest said:
Some breeds of cat can't survive on their own. If I let my ragdoll cat outside he would probable die immediately or be catnapped.




Is that him in your avatar? i can see why you think so. He looks rather slow.






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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Herbologist]
    #23853566 - 11/21/16 08:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've picked up a few ferrals. They do tend to have alot more play and mischief in them than regular domestic cats but I've not seen one with that level of aggression either.

Only time I've seen them get really onry since being people trained is when you fuck with their food.


One kitten I found on the street and nursed to health had a big problem trying to get on people's plates and eat their food (the little shit would dart for it and start eating so fast I'd figure it'd probably eventually choke.) trained that out of him by "eating" a "meal" of cheese covered jalapenos.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23853587 - 11/21/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Oh my bad. You look alot more cute than I imagined.


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    #23853605 - 11/21/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have a few cats with  claws, and one without them. I don't get them declawed, I might at some point in life, but. They're cats, bred for our amusement and our amusement only. Breed the claws out.


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    #23853606 - 11/21/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:lol: I think that's from one of those "bad taxidermy" image collections.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: King Klick]
    #23853607 - 11/21/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I have a few cats with  claws, and one without them. I don't get them declawed, I might at some point in life, but. They're cats, bred for our amusement and our amusement only. Breed the claws out.





i hope you don't really feel this way. declawing is practically torture.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Herbologist]
    #23853614 - 11/21/16 08:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think inbreeding an animal until it can no longer function as an animal is cruel. Yeah munchkin cats are cute but they have no balance and come with a host of genetic issues. People are ridiculous when it comes to opinions about aesthetics.

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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23853655 - 11/21/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I think its beyond asshole-ish behavior to declaw a cat. Anyone who does this should commit suicide instantly





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I think inbreeding an animal until it can no longer function as an animal is cruel. Yeah munchkin cats are cute but they have no balance and come with a host of genetic issues. People are ridiculous when it comes to opinions about aesthetics.

I can only imagine the level of fucked when we start manipulating human genetics on the scale we have with dogs.





I agree.  I don't support breeding munchkin cats, it's just not natural..  They are a normal cat with tiny legs and just can't do the same things.  They'd never survive in the wild if escaped or dumped out there.

When it comes down to it.. I don't support the breeding of any animal.  The shelters and humane societies are already too full with animals that need help and a place to call home.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Herbologist]
    #23853675 - 11/21/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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King Klick said:
I have a few cats with  claws, and one without them. I don't get them declawed, I might at some point in life, but. They're cats, bred for our amusement and our amusement only. Breed the claws out.





i hope you don't really feel this way. declawing is practically torture.



I do. My favorite cat has front claws and he's a bastard. Claws up everything. If I had nice furniture they wouldn't have knuckles. I mean I did have nice furniture but it's there's now. And don't try telling me to train them because there is a pack hierarchy that hasn't been disassembled since I was born. They'd all have to die at once to train one properly.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: King Klick]
    #23853689 - 11/21/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Do you even have scratching posts and scratching pads in your house?

Cats are animals, who need things to scratch.  If you don't supply that for them, what else are they supposed to do?


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Herbologist]
    #23853691 - 11/21/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Do you even have scratching posts and scratching pads in your house?

Cats are animals, who need things to scratch.  If you don't supply that for them, what else are they supposed to do?



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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: King Klick]
    #23853693 - 11/21/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Declawing cats
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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: King Klick]
    #23853718 - 11/21/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
Do you even have scratching posts and scratching pads in your house?

Cats are animals, who need things to scratch.  If you don't supply that for them, what else are they supposed to do?



1 for each cat.




Mentholated muscle rub. Or something with a strong citrus smell. Rub it where they like to scratch, arm rests or whatever. They don't like the smell and they especially don't like their paws slipping on goo. I've used cayenne pepper oil too.

Also possible that, if they're indoor cats, their claws aren't being manicured well. You can ask your vet to look n see if they need trimmed.


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    #23853723 - 11/21/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

King Klick said:
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Herbologist said:
Do you even have scratching posts and scratching pads in your house?

Cats are animals, who need things to scratch.  If you don't supply that for them, what else are they supposed to do?



1 for each cat.




Mentholated muscle rub. Or something with a strong citrus smell. Rub it where they like to scratch, arm rests or whatever. They don't like the smell and they especially don't like their paws slipping on goo. I've used cayenne pepper oil too.

Also possible that, if they're indoor cats, their claws aren't being manicured well. You can ask your vet to look n see if they need trimmed.



I believe they get trimmed yearly. I'll try the citrus though. :thumbup:


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    #23853947 - 11/21/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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New Jersey
(of all states:gc:) just recently banned declawing


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: vinsue]
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Patlal said:

New Jersey
(of all states:gc:) just recently banned declawing


:gc:

...Puppy mills too.
http://archive.northjersey.com/news/n-j-senate-passes-bill-that-cracks-down-on-puppy-mills-1.1624558
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    #23854081 - 11/21/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

declawing a cat is cruel and lazy approach to solving behavioral problems


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23854339 - 11/21/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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and u still have your kitty ballz too. Tis a good day for Patlal's Kitty Ballz.




My last cat was a little hassle. Finally got her fixed after her second litter. She was definitely the ho of the neighborhood. :lol:

She was pretty cool. She'd follow me up to the store and shit like a dog. Wait outside and shit for me.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Patlal]
    #23854524 - 11/21/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Your thoughts on declawing cats?




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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Enjoywho]
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CookieCrumbs said:
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King Klick said:
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Herbologist said:
Do you even have scratching posts and scratching pads in your house?

Cats are animals, who need things to scratch.  If you don't supply that for them, what else are they supposed to do?



1 for each cat.




Mentholated muscle rub. Or something with a strong citrus smell. Rub it where they like to scratch, arm rests or whatever. They don't like the smell and they especially don't like their paws slipping on goo. I've used cayenne pepper oil too.

Also possible that, if they're indoor cats, their claws aren't being manicured well. You can ask your vet to look n see if they need trimmed.



I believe they get trimmed yearly. I'll try the citrus though. :thumbup:




:goodluck:
I have an issue with my kitty getting too close to my car when its moving. I think it's cuz she knows my car and is happy to see me (none of the neighbors have said anything.) i think I'm gonna start carrying a super soaker in my car and get her from the windows.
That's her only downside. If she does meow quite loudly and insistently.

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and u still have your kitty ballz too. Tis a good day for Patlal's Kitty Ballz.




My last cat was a little hassle. Finally got her fixed after her second litter. She was definitely the ho of the neighborhood. :lol:

She was pretty cool. She'd follow me up to the store and shit like a dog. Wait outside and shit for me.




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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23854650 - 11/21/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Oh and I think it's cruel to remove dogs vocal cords too. Train your goddamn pets or give them to someone who will :crankey:


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23854676 - 11/21/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How is declawing a cat any more inhumane than clipping the ears or tails of boxers and other similar animals?

I see nothing wrong with declawing a cat. They destroy furniture, they scratch little kids... clipping their nails doesn't solve these problems.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23854702 - 11/21/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think all of that is cruel too. Even worse in the case of cropping since you are mutilating an animal for merely aesthetic reasons.


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    #23854722 - 11/21/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I agree mutilating an animal is worse for aesthetic reasons, but declawing cats at least serves a purpose.

It's not anymore inhumane than neutering or spaying an animal.

Funny how people are against declawing cats when we can't even get any legislation against circumcision.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23854735 - 11/21/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Cats without claws look as weird as a cock with foreskin
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    #23854737 - 11/21/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah I agree mutilating an animal is worse for aesthetic reasons, but declawing cats at least serves a purpose.

It's not anymore inhumane than neutering or spaying an animal.

Funny how people are against declawing cats when we can't even get any legislation against circumcision.





Actually its MUCH more inhumane :facepalm:

You are literally cutting off their toes, not just their claws.


I don't agree with ear cropping or tail docking either but declawing is fucked up and can ruin the animals quality of life.


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    #23855091 - 11/21/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Oh and I think it's cruel to remove dogs vocal cords too. Train your goddamn pets or give them to someone who will :crankey:




That's even worse. My dog was incredibly talkative. We would argue with each other. :lol:

My sister would be playing her saxophone and he'd sing along. I miss him a lot.



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    #23855433 - 11/21/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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They destroy furniture, they scratch little kids....




Neither one of those are serious issues or even slightly difficult to fix.

Is the next generation of Western society going to be able to boil water?


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23855865 - 11/21/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Neither one of those are serious issues or even slightly difficult to fix.

Can't potty train your kids? Hook them up with a colostomy bag :cookiemonster:




You really think you can train a cat not to scratch furniture or kids? :lol: Good luck with that one lol

You might be able to train A cat, one that is obedient and good in nature, but ALL cats?


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    #23855868 - 11/21/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Kids need to learn their place, as does the couch from time to time.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23855878 - 11/21/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've met some asshole cats that have clawed the fuck out of me as a kid. All the cats I've owned over the years though were cool. Never owned a litter box.

One cat would post off the freezer we had and push the sliding screen door open and go outside. Sweet cats. Hard-core predators I could imagine if I did keep them in they would be mad at me. Leading to asshole cats. It's animal abuse to keep them as "indoor" cats imo.

They need to hunt that's why they bring mice home to there owner. It's a gift. My last cat brought home a mouse and bird. How the fuck do you even catch a bird. Nice work kitten.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23855879 - 11/21/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I can see why somebody wouldn't let their cat outdoors, especially in the city. That's how they get run over by cars, or eaten by dogs or other wild animals.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23855887 - 11/21/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Oh I'm not talking city. Obviously if I lived in a small apartment in a skyscraper ya no. But I doubt I'd have an animal in that case.

In Seattle i wouldn't have had an animal. Mr dog stayed with ma. But other than that I generally live in more rural areas and animals need space to grow.

My last cat was a thug. She came home with a chip out of her ear. She obviously got in a fight with something larger than her. Damn kitten. Im guessing a raccoon. Silly kitten but she obviously knows when to pick and choose her battles.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23855892 - 11/21/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Aren't you afraid of your cat getting eaten by coyotes and shit?


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23855901 - 11/21/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've never lived in a place that has coyotes? Alaska and Washington. Everywhere else that I've lived I didn't have animals. As it was short term 9-12 months.

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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23855913 - 11/21/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I thought there's bears in Alaska?

There's too many coyotes where I live, they've even eaten a neighbor's dog. I would be too afraid to let cats out just for that reason alone.


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    #23855916 - 11/21/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Aren't you afraid of your cat getting eaten by coyotes and shit?




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    #23855919 - 11/21/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Neither one of those are serious issues or even slightly difficult to fix.

Can't potty train your kids? Hook them up with a colostomy bag :cookiemonster:




You really think you can train a cat not to scratch furniture or kids? :lol: Good luck with that one lol

You might be able to train A cat, one that is obedient and good in nature, but ALL cats?





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    #23855933 - 11/21/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Cats are natural predators. Cat breeds that are indoor cats are the chihuahuas of the breeding spectrum. Useless.

My cats and dog were mutts. I dont want some pure bred as those sorts of dogs do act like dicks. Or they're bred to uselessness. Ie your chihuahuas and cats I guess. We always had them for rodent issues. To kill. And kill they do. Nature's sociopaths. But they love me for whatever reason. High five kitten!

There's bears crystal but it's not like they're roaming the street in thugged out groups :lol: they hibernate in mountains and you barely see them in small cities. Well never. Unless you go fishing. I've seen monster grizzlies come down to fish the area as well.

Luckily they were on the mountain side but that was startling. I read an article recently moose population are booming. Because of highways. Moose are what you had to really worry about as you don't want to hit one In a car. But kill it with a high powered rifle your friends and family eat well for a year.


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    #23855968 - 11/21/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I got a moose at 16. In Alaska there was not the socialism you see in Washington. It's made me soft.

.30.06 Springfield nailed it 200 yards out. Dad handed me the rifle this is yours. Tracked it not a great shot. High left but hit enough to kill. Fed us for a year. Good times I miss those times and hate socialism. Ah oh well.

The other in Alaska is dipnetting 100 salmon a year than you can fish all year. Yea yea!!  We didn't have food stamps or anything. You eat what you kill. My dad made it a game for me dipnetting. Hit them until they die
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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23856286 - 11/22/16 04:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Neither one of those are serious issues or even slightly difficult to fix.

Can't potty train your kids? Hook them up with a colostomy bag :cookiemonster:




You really think you can train a cat not to scratch furniture or kids? :lol: Good luck with that one lol

You might be able to train A cat, one that is obedient and good in nature, but ALL cats?




Cats are more stubborn and a little different than dogs. But you can train them. No you can't train all cats because they're slightly closer to wild animals than most domestic dogs (and the "big cats" they were bred from were not very social creatures) and they need to 'hunt' and explore, like I said earlier. And on top of that if they still have behavior issues, like dogs, they need to be trained. And in both cases it helps if you understand how a cat thinks, which most people do not.

City cats are seriously deprived. Just like dogs if you keep them cooped up in an apartment all day they're going to lash out. They're different than dogs and low maintenance but they're not different and low maintenance in the way most people think. I mean yeah a few cats raised in an apartment can be okay, especially if they have a play mate but more often than not, JUST LIKE DOGS, there's a reason they're assholes.

I've had about 6-8 cats and the only time they've ever scratched a child is when the child was tormenting it. My brother's cats scratch their furniture because they don't consistently discourage them (my sis thinks it's cruel to use spray bottles...) and my ex gfs cat was a shithead because she never got her fixed and everything the cat did was obviously related to her heat cycles. Even still I've trained most of those cats one thing or another. My first cat could sit and shake and fetch just like a dog. My bros cat, the one that tears up his furniture, I've trained to stop any obnoxious behavior with a snap of my fingers. I can't work on the furniture issue because its not my house but she doesn't do that shit when I'm in the room.

Never lived in the depths of the city so most of my cats have been indoor/outdoor. My current cat was neglected and abused by her previous owners but she's still probably the sweetest cat I've had. So personality does matter, but most cats can be trained if you understand they're not people and they're not dogs. They are pets. They are mammals. They are intelligent animals that our dumbasses don't understand most of the time. Alot of people could improve if they'd take the time to learn and work with their feline.

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    #23856287 - 11/22/16 04:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think I'll get a pet bear and not train it cuz everyone knows you can't train wild animals.

I'll send you guys a post card when it tears out my throat because I didn't teach it any discipline at all.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23856292 - 11/22/16 04:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You really think you can train a cat not to scratch furniture or kids? :lol: Good luck with that one lol

You might be able to train A cat, one that is obedient and good in nature, but ALL cats?




I have owned numerous cats throughout my life, none were trainable.

I am not saying it's out of the realm of possibility, but I don't know how to do it.  Even providing the little bastards a scratching post they still destroyed several pieces of furniture.

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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Lucis]
    #23857036 - 11/22/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My cat's are two different personalities so in a sense I lucked out, but they use this to their advantage to try and trick me by leaving the yard or scratching the sofa.

I do not care about furniture really it's just you can't own cats if you need beauty rest at night starting off.


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    #23857066 - 11/22/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sadly the only way to train a cat to stay in the yard is to have it on a leash.

Unless they are fat or old.


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    #23857305 - 11/22/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My cat used to explore when she was young but she stays in the back yard now. Once in a blue moon she will go to next door.

She just loves sitting outside.


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    #23857333 - 11/22/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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What's so hard about handling a cat? Wtf




Seriously? When I was a veterinary technician we were taught that cats are almost impossible to train.

Cats are nothing like dogs. There's a reason nobody teaches their cat commands like how to sit or beg for treats.


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    #23857359 - 11/22/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

...i have. I've known others who have.

The trick of a cat is being more stubborn and patient than the cat. And not alot of people are. They are often like mischievous children, when they finally do realize you're not gonna tolerate their shit they sit and wait a few months or even a year... And they scratch your furniture again. And if you don't discipline them in consistency with how you got them to stop in the first place then you'll probably have to go through the entire process again.


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    #23857364 - 11/22/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Also don't trust everything that gets said in what should be a specialist environment. I've had a nurse tell me that your kidneys are just above your hips.


Also had alot of doctors tell me alot of misinformation too, and they treat fucking people, which, being of the same species, they should understand a little better than a vet may understand a cat.


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    #23857385 - 11/22/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You can train any animal if you have enough patience and understanding of animal psychology. Cats, ferrets, squirrels, even fish. Obviously they can't all do the same things and intelligence varies, even from different races within the same species, but you can train them.

Ime the stupidest cats and dogs are purebreds and other inbred varieties. Which shouldn't come as a surprise. Selective breeding for intelligence were the oldest breeds and consistent cross and interbreeding often muddles that. Breeding, for the last 200 years, has been mostly for cosmetic qualities. Which is sad and often why the 'teacup' dogs and pigs are alot dumber and harder to train than their larger counterparts.


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    #23857468 - 11/22/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

When my cat dies Ima make a taxidermist make her into a drone so she can continue to annoy people :heart:


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What's so hard about handling a cat? Wtf




Seriously? When I was a veterinary technician we were taught that cats are almost impossible to train.

Cats are nothing like dogs. There's a reason nobody teaches their cat commands like how to sit or beg for treats.




People teach cats to do tricks, thats not training though, idk wtf that is really.

Potty training, scratching, staying off counters, not biting cords and such.
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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23857770 - 11/22/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You were probably not a good technician.  I see vets often in my practice and the technicians never have issues with the cats except for the occasional like any animal.


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    #23857792 - 11/22/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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People teach cats to do tricks, thats not training though, idk wtf that is really.

Potty training, scratching, staying off counters, not biting cords and such.
Not sure how many cats ive trained but it requires almost no effort or thought




I thought cats don't need to be potty-trained? They just know to go automatically in kitty litter. Something about the smell or something, it instinctively draws cats to go pee there.


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You were probably not a good technician.  I see vets often in my practice and the technicians never have issues with the cats except for the occasional like any animal.




It's not a tech's job to train any animals, dog or cat. That's the owner's job. Animal clinics just throw your pets in cages and only take them out to draw blood from them or perform surgery on them.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23857823 - 11/22/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, thats what i mean though,  theyre basically no maintenance


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23857829 - 11/22/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

As I stated earlier in this thread, the key to 'training' a cat is to have them so attuned to expending their extra energy outside and having more desirable scratchable objects than furniture outside. They don't have any desire to do crazy stupid shit inside when they're much more interested in the much more stimulating outside environment. Every cat I've owned has been a fucking angel due to this :awesome:


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: twighead]
    #23857888 - 11/22/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Speaking of stupid inbred cats my ex had a cat I rescued from ferralland and he would hang over the edge of the litter box and shit down the side of it. Had to get a closed top one to stop that. My parents had a purebred persian that was literally named Stupid and would shit on the floor next to the litterbox.

For the most part its not the smell that draws them in. Animals do feel more inclined to go to the bathroom where they or something else already has but for starters cats like to go in soil or dirt. They like to dig and bury it. Not all, but most.

I did have to "train" a few kittens to use the litterbox. Which is insistently showing it to them. For most the most difficult part is teaching them where to go when they need to go cuz some down give a fuck. Helps to have it in your own bathroom because, through smell, they recognize other animals go there.


I've had issues with cats going in potted plants (fixed with a spray bottle and hot pepper powder) and blankets or rugs. As an incidental thing I've not had much trouble with the latter unless they were not fixed. If they aren't fixed then training them out of marking is a huge pain.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23857917 - 11/22/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, thats what i mean though,  theyre basically no maintenance




Then that's not really training is it? It's not like a dog where you have to potty train them at an early age to go on the grass instead of all over the carpet.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23857953 - 11/22/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Neither one of those are serious issues or even slightly difficult to fix.

Can't potty train your kids? Hook them up with a colostomy bag :cookiemonster:




You really think you can train a cat not to scratch furniture or kids? :lol: Good luck with that one lol

You might be able to train A cat, one that is obedient and good in nature, but ALL cats?




If a cat that claws kids maliciously has its claws taken out, it will most certainly bite the kid.  De-clawed cats are biters.

Mine is literally one of the coolest, most social chill cats there is but he is a biter.  When he plays all he has is the teeth that he hasn't lost yet.  He's 16 year's old and I got him after his claws were taken out.  He'll climb on your lap, snuggle up with you, and bite you randomly (usually a love-bite, but sometimes it's a senile rubbed-the-wrong-way kind of bite). 

And usually if a cat claws a kid it is on accident because the kid is holding it weird and it uses it's claws as a grip to jump away.

All my cats that didn't run away have lived to be like 20 years old.  This one has a couple more years left in him I'm sure.  He looks half his age and wakes me up every morning like clockwork.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23858004 - 11/22/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, thats what i mean though,  theyre basically no maintenance




Then that's not really training is it? It's not like a dog where you have to potty train them at an early age to go on the grass instead of all over the carpet.




You do have to correct some things, but theres little time or effort involved.

Dogs are dumb brutes, they just never fucking learn, god damn. :mad2:


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23858014 - 11/22/16 04:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

you have to scream at them like you're going to murder them

with cats you kind of herd them around
they don't really want to be picked up by human hands for some reason..


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Konyap]
    #23858022 - 11/22/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Tone of voice > volume

Have you people never watched the dog whisperer? and the cat whisperer? (actually I've only watched the latter once and he didn't seem to do much...)


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23858036 - 11/22/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, thats what i mean though,  theyre basically no maintenance




Then that's not really training is it? It's not like a dog where you have to potty train them at an early age to go on the grass instead of all over the carpet.




You do have to correct some things, but theres little time or effort involved.

Dogs are dumb brutes, they just never fucking learn, god damn. :mad2:




With dogs it completely depends on the breed and personality. My last dog was a papillon/pomeranian mix, and she was super easy to train. I only had to teach her to potty train once, through affirmative actions by feeding her treats whenever she went potty on the lawn. After that she does it for life.

But I had a husky who was really difficult and almost impossible to train. Affirmative training never worked on him, you literally had to be physically aggressive with him to get him to listen to any commands.

And like all huskies and akitas, you always had to keep him on a leash at all times, because he would run away the first chance he got. All sled dogs have that instinct in them to run away.

So with dogs it depends on the breed. Dogs like huskies and German shepherds are more physically active, while dogs like pugs and Saint Bernards are pretty low energy dogs. So you have to do different things with them.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Konyap]
    #23858181 - 11/22/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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you have to scream at them like you're going to murder them

with cats you kind of herd them around
they don't really want to be picked up by human hands for some reason..



You sound like a retard with animals :lol:

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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: twighead]
    #23858267 - 11/22/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Make the little sluts love you

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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23858358 - 11/22/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

There's a youtube tutorial on how to teach your cat to shit in the toilet. Never heard of a dog learning to do that.

Crystal:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cats+trained




You can train them. Most people just don't. Because generally, in most cases, you don't need to train them. And well... most people aren't aware they can be trained...


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23858432 - 11/22/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yea I've also seen cats that love getting baths too :lol:


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23858464 - 11/22/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What if I told you


You could train your cat to be okay with baths


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23859578 - 11/23/16 05:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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What if I told you
You could train your cat to be okay with baths




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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23859687 - 11/23/16 07:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:rofl:
This is fun now tho


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23859825 - 11/23/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You could train your cat to be okay with baths



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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Patlal]
    #23860562 - 11/23/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

declawing cats is inhumane.

only lazy and stupid people do this.

it is SOOOO easy to teach your cat not to scratch on furniture, etc.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: yogabunny]
    #23860579 - 11/23/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I wish my cat liked baths.

Once in a blue moon I dip her feet in to see if she changes her mind. She never does.


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    #23860592 - 11/23/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's best to get them into it when they're kittens.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: yogabunny]
    #23860596 - 11/23/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How? How do you teach a cat not to scratch on furniture?


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23860617 - 11/23/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Spray it with water when it scratches something you don't want it to scratch and then pick it up and put it on something it CAN scratch. Different cats like to scratch on different things, mine like cardboard.

You can then give them a treat after they successfully scratch on the cardboard or scratching post.

They get it soon enough.

I have also trained her to know that we're feeding her wet food when the theme to the Jetson's is played.

Cats are way more trainable than people think. They can even be trained to use the toilet and be walked on a leash if you start from a young age.


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    #23860642 - 11/23/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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    #23860647 - 11/23/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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    #23860664 - 11/23/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

*puffs more air into thread*


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    #23863386 - 11/24/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Regarding declawing, I dont think animals know any better, especially if its done when theyre babies. It doesnt ruin their ability to walk or anything. But if I was a cat, I would want my claws, which is why I havent declawed ours. also have a 3 month old and hope that the decision doesnt come back to bite me in the ass once our little one gets more grabby. The cat is definitely aware of how protective we are of the baby, and pretty much stays away from her.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: ManianFH]
    #23863401 - 11/24/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Living in a suburban neighborhood with cats I do think it's cruel. It's not just their defense mechanism, it's also their escape. What do you think they do when a big ass dog is coming to eat them? The smart ones get their ass up in a tree, not try to fight the thing. But you take away both options when you declaw them.


The neighbor used to have a declawed cat. The thing would bite me most of the time when I pet it. I don't know if it happened before or after it got declawed but I do think the thing was mentally retarded. Don't know what exactly happened to him but he got mauled or hit by a car or something cuz the neighbor found him in the driveway covered in blood barely breathing. :undecided:

I mean most of the slightly retarded cats I've met are usually sweet but that thing was mean, it could be that it got itself in a situation most nonspecial cats wouldn't, but it didn't have brains and it didn't have claws so if it was mauled it really didn't stand a chance.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23863593 - 11/24/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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People teach cats to do tricks, thats not training though, idk wtf that is really.

Potty training, scratching, staying off counters, not biting cords and such.
Not sure how many cats ive trained but it requires almost no effort or thought




I thought cats don't need to be potty-trained? They just know to go automatically in kitty litter. Something about the smell or something, it instinctively draws cats to go pee there.


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You were probably not a good technician.  I see vets often in my practice and the technicians never have issues with the cats except for the occasional like any animal.




It's not a tech's job to train any animals, dog or cat. That's the owner's job. Animal clinics just throw your pets in cages and only take them out to draw blood from them or perform surgery on them.




No kittens need to be trained. I've raised quite a few letters some of my female cats have been hos. Mom cat helps but you just put them in the litter box a bunch and they'll get the idea.

Your gettin the kitten at 8 weeks I believe. If it was properly trained as a little one than ya they know what the box does.

My cats have always been outside cats so not a big deal they don't really need a litter box then. But you still get one to potty train kittens.

Or they'll piss and shit all over your house.


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