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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23857359 - 11/22/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

...i have. I've known others who have.

The trick of a cat is being more stubborn and patient than the cat. And not alot of people are. They are often like mischievous children, when they finally do realize you're not gonna tolerate their shit they sit and wait a few months or even a year... And they scratch your furniture again. And if you don't discipline them in consistency with how you got them to stop in the first place then you'll probably have to go through the entire process again.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23857364 - 11/22/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Also don't trust everything that gets said in what should be a specialist environment. I've had a nurse tell me that your kidneys are just above your hips.


Also had alot of doctors tell me alot of misinformation too, and they treat fucking people, which, being of the same species, they should understand a little better than a vet may understand a cat.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23857385 - 11/22/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You can train any animal if you have enough patience and understanding of animal psychology. Cats, ferrets, squirrels, even fish. Obviously they can't all do the same things and intelligence varies, even from different races within the same species, but you can train them.

Ime the stupidest cats and dogs are purebreds and other inbred varieties. Which shouldn't come as a surprise. Selective breeding for intelligence were the oldest breeds and consistent cross and interbreeding often muddles that. Breeding, for the last 200 years, has been mostly for cosmetic qualities. Which is sad and often why the 'teacup' dogs and pigs are alot dumber and harder to train than their larger counterparts.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23857392 - 11/22/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Only bigots and white males like trump supporters would declaw a cat.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23857456 - 11/22/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23857468 - 11/22/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

When my cat dies Ima make a taxidermist make her into a drone so she can continue to annoy people :heart:


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23857580 - 11/22/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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That drone/vid is so fucking awesome!


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23857763 - 11/22/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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What's so hard about handling a cat? Wtf




Seriously? When I was a veterinary technician we were taught that cats are almost impossible to train.

Cats are nothing like dogs. There's a reason nobody teaches their cat commands like how to sit or beg for treats.




People teach cats to do tricks, thats not training though, idk wtf that is really.

Potty training, scratching, staying off counters, not biting cords and such.
Not sure how many cats ive trained but it requires almost no effort or thought


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23857770 - 11/22/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You were probably not a good technician.  I see vets often in my practice and the technicians never have issues with the cats except for the occasional like any animal.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Herbologist]
    #23857792 - 11/22/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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People teach cats to do tricks, thats not training though, idk wtf that is really.

Potty training, scratching, staying off counters, not biting cords and such.
Not sure how many cats ive trained but it requires almost no effort or thought




I thought cats don't need to be potty-trained? They just know to go automatically in kitty litter. Something about the smell or something, it instinctively draws cats to go pee there.


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You were probably not a good technician.  I see vets often in my practice and the technicians never have issues with the cats except for the occasional like any animal.




It's not a tech's job to train any animals, dog or cat. That's the owner's job. Animal clinics just throw your pets in cages and only take them out to draw blood from them or perform surgery on them.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23857823 - 11/22/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, thats what i mean though,  theyre basically no maintenance


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23857829 - 11/22/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

As I stated earlier in this thread, the key to 'training' a cat is to have them so attuned to expending their extra energy outside and having more desirable scratchable objects than furniture outside. They don't have any desire to do crazy stupid shit inside when they're much more interested in the much more stimulating outside environment. Every cat I've owned has been a fucking angel due to this :awesome:


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: twighead]
    #23857888 - 11/22/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Speaking of stupid inbred cats my ex had a cat I rescued from ferralland and he would hang over the edge of the litter box and shit down the side of it. Had to get a closed top one to stop that. My parents had a purebred persian that was literally named Stupid and would shit on the floor next to the litterbox.

For the most part its not the smell that draws them in. Animals do feel more inclined to go to the bathroom where they or something else already has but for starters cats like to go in soil or dirt. They like to dig and bury it. Not all, but most.

I did have to "train" a few kittens to use the litterbox. Which is insistently showing it to them. For most the most difficult part is teaching them where to go when they need to go cuz some down give a fuck. Helps to have it in your own bathroom because, through smell, they recognize other animals go there.


I've had issues with cats going in potted plants (fixed with a spray bottle and hot pepper powder) and blankets or rugs. As an incidental thing I've not had much trouble with the latter unless they were not fixed. If they aren't fixed then training them out of marking is a huge pain.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23857917 - 11/22/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, thats what i mean though,  theyre basically no maintenance




Then that's not really training is it? It's not like a dog where you have to potty train them at an early age to go on the grass instead of all over the carpet.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23857953 - 11/22/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Neither one of those are serious issues or even slightly difficult to fix.

Can't potty train your kids? Hook them up with a colostomy bag :cookiemonster:




You really think you can train a cat not to scratch furniture or kids? :lol: Good luck with that one lol

You might be able to train A cat, one that is obedient and good in nature, but ALL cats?




If a cat that claws kids maliciously has its claws taken out, it will most certainly bite the kid.  De-clawed cats are biters.

Mine is literally one of the coolest, most social chill cats there is but he is a biter.  When he plays all he has is the teeth that he hasn't lost yet.  He's 16 year's old and I got him after his claws were taken out.  He'll climb on your lap, snuggle up with you, and bite you randomly (usually a love-bite, but sometimes it's a senile rubbed-the-wrong-way kind of bite). 

And usually if a cat claws a kid it is on accident because the kid is holding it weird and it uses it's claws as a grip to jump away.

All my cats that didn't run away have lived to be like 20 years old.  This one has a couple more years left in him I'm sure.  He looks half his age and wakes me up every morning like clockwork.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23858004 - 11/22/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, thats what i mean though,  theyre basically no maintenance




Then that's not really training is it? It's not like a dog where you have to potty train them at an early age to go on the grass instead of all over the carpet.




You do have to correct some things, but theres little time or effort involved.

Dogs are dumb brutes, they just never fucking learn, god damn. :mad2:


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23858014 - 11/22/16 04:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

you have to scream at them like you're going to murder them

with cats you kind of herd them around
they don't really want to be picked up by human hands for some reason..


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Konyap]
    #23858022 - 11/22/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Tone of voice > volume

Have you people never watched the dog whisperer? and the cat whisperer? (actually I've only watched the latter once and he didn't seem to do much...)


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23858036 - 11/22/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, thats what i mean though,  theyre basically no maintenance




Then that's not really training is it? It's not like a dog where you have to potty train them at an early age to go on the grass instead of all over the carpet.




You do have to correct some things, but theres little time or effort involved.

Dogs are dumb brutes, they just never fucking learn, god damn. :mad2:




With dogs it completely depends on the breed and personality. My last dog was a papillon/pomeranian mix, and she was super easy to train. I only had to teach her to potty train once, through affirmative actions by feeding her treats whenever she went potty on the lawn. After that she does it for life.

But I had a husky who was really difficult and almost impossible to train. Affirmative training never worked on him, you literally had to be physically aggressive with him to get him to listen to any commands.

And like all huskies and akitas, you always had to keep him on a leash at all times, because he would run away the first chance he got. All sled dogs have that instinct in them to run away.

So with dogs it depends on the breed. Dogs like huskies and German shepherds are more physically active, while dogs like pugs and Saint Bernards are pretty low energy dogs. So you have to do different things with them.


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Re: Your thoughts on declawing cats? [Re: Konyap]
    #23858181 - 11/22/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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you have to scream at them like you're going to murder them

with cats you kind of herd them around
they don't really want to be picked up by human hands for some reason..



You sound like a retard with animals :lol:

If you make the cat fucking love you beyond anything they will follow your will to the end of the earth.


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