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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23864299 - 11/24/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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So two people that like to threaten and puff up their chests, like each other.  Maybe share a beer.  It's fun.




Nothing wrong with beating your chest. I don't threaten, I warn. There's a subtle difference.

Most people like you don't like me. You think of me as trying to intimidate or a know it all. I merely set an example. You may choose to follow or not. Only fools are intimidated by me, and liars scoff at me and look the other way. That being said... I am rather intimidating in a more mysterious way rather than the classical menacing term. Tough to read, unpredictable, and perceptive.

I am a PUNK. Great acronym hidden in there.


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"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle

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"Each tear is a drop of poison released." - Anonymous

"Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say if they knew you believe in God above? They should realize before they criticize that God is the only way to Love."


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #23864532 - 11/24/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Is life worth living?




The short answer is "No!" The long answer is "Yes!"


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: lovuasca]
    #23865003 - 11/25/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Maybe not the life for what you think of it right now.

I used to think I wanted to stop existing, and I too was afraid of dying. I used to think that I was a coward because I couldn't get myself to do just that. So I stayed alive and tried to live self-destructive. Eventually I did (slowly) realize that deep down, to stop existing, is not what I really want. Yes, of course I wanted to die, it seemed like easy answer to everything. But those were just superficial idea's. My conclusion, years after, is that my subconsciousness had other idea's. The problem was not that I was doomed to live a meaningless life. The problem was that I believed that life was what society had thought me: it being substandard like it was. And I can't live a substandard life like the masses. I eventually started looking 'outside the box' and found my own way of living.

Anyway, I don't think hope is a very good thing as well. And then there is also the thing people say, that it is selfish to kill yourself. Well, I think it is just as selfish to be alive but not really live. Whether you live or you don't is your choice in the end, but don't let your mind trick you. Chances are good that your unconscious thinks otherwise. People nowadays are just not tuned into their deeper self. Also, some people say that things will be better in the future. I'd say that if you refrain from taking the easy road, this definatly will be true, and you'll get to learn why. On the other hand, don't let it be a reason to just wait and do nothing in the hope that things just change. Nothing changes for no reason.

Anyway, hope this may help. Not trying to be harsh though.




i think its selfish for people to say that suicide is selfish.  IMO it's more selfish to make someone live when they're fucking miserable.  Its like making them stay here just so the other person dont have to feel grief or loss.  Anyway Im all for suicide, if someone isnt having a good time here but I would always encourage a person to stay. 

sometimes our bodies shut down and we die naturally because some organ fails and stops functioning.  Other times our brain doesnt feel like playing anymore.  Some deaths are physical some are mental.  I would like to have a humane choice when to call it quits, and not have to blow my fucking head off or take a bunch of pills sit in a bathtub.  I want to die while I still have some quality of life and dignity left.  Not sitting on a toilet naked.  everyone dies naked.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: sprinkles]
    #23865011 - 11/25/16 12:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I want to die while I still have some quality of life and dignity left.





How in the name of Jesus could you possibly lose your dignity?!


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23865015 - 11/25/16 12:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

speaking of Jesus, sometimes adversity is put there on purpose for us to develop a closer/stronger relationship with God.


Read the bible op.


speaking of the bible its time for me to read.  good night children.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: sprinkles]
    #23865020 - 11/25/16 12:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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sprinkles said:

speaking of Jesus, sometimes adversity is put there on purpose for us to develop a closer/stronger relationship with God.





If this is true, Christ and Satan are one in the same.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23865204 - 11/25/16 04:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

um no.  I said adversitity, not evil.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: sprinkles]
    #23865696 - 11/25/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If God is all mighty dip your yard membrane into delinquiency

If your a all mighty would you rather your slaves experience all your glory or listens Om teardrop sermons




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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #23865818 - 11/25/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like your suffering through a spot of blindness. If you've been suffering for a long time you will get so much higher when you finally get a release. 

The root of who you are will not be snuffed out if you kill yourself.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23865835 - 11/25/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Edit: personalism


Edited by DividedQuantum (11/25/16 02:02 PM)


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: Jaegar]
    #23865881 - 11/25/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If there is anything in life to stick around for, that life is always worth living IMO. Taking your life is a last resort because there are no options after the deed. The uncertainty of the afterlife honestly scares the shit out of me. I don't know for sure if we go to Heaven/ Hell, become at one with a universal consciousness, etc. or if it is simply lights out for an individual. From my perspective, I love my life, even though it is filled with disappointment, and regrets. I have thought of taking my life before, but I decided to choose to be happy with life. I recommend everyone think hard about their life before they give it up. Life is beautiful!


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: FishyAl]
    #23865898 - 11/25/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Edit: personalism


Edited by DividedQuantum (11/25/16 02:03 PM)


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: Jaegar]
    #23865926 - 11/25/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

my penis keeps falling off.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23865943 - 11/25/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Some seriously depressed people in this thread.



Reality is depressing. :shrug:


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: liquidlounge]
    #23865958 - 11/25/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Some seriously depressed people in this thread.



Reality is depressing. :shrug:




That is why I fucking love psychedelics! It gets you away from reality.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: FishyAl]
    #23866284 - 11/25/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Nature is mystical though.  I was outside early in the morning around 4:45am when everyone was waking up .  The deer, the squirrels, the birds, the bugs, the foxes and everyone else was waking up and beginning to eat and move around and shit- the cacophony of noises itself was psychedelic.

Everyone was waking up!  And theres that whole side of life happening right in front of us everyday!  Whenever I forget about the natural world I can easily get bogged down in our strange society and its misgivings and can become sad, but those guys out there in the wild are resilient, beautiful beings!

The more I live in a way where I am mindful of that part of life I remember something special about life , I dont fall asleep while awake via getting spellbound by my thoughts and in doing so remain sober and alert and appreciative , and that along with uncoupling from clutter makes me happy. Living like this is worth it to me.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23866658 - 11/25/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

of course if we take the question , " Is life worth living?" in it's literal sense

we could easily answer it very simply

"What!!!, you expect to be paid for living?"

which although it may appear silly

is perhaps actually spot on

as it reveals that the supposedly profound question as actually only another complaint.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: laughingdog]
    #23866693 - 11/25/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

amen to that laughingdog


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23875182 - 11/28/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Still nobody has answered the original question.  Why should living things even bother to continue the eternal struggle to exist?

The answers are this.  Most animals don't have the intellect to question it.  Most human beings that do have the intellect still believe in something.  There will be something that each person clings to in order to provide value and meaning in life.

It is mostly just a game.  You put something on a pedestal and say, "This is important."  Then you derive value from whatever it is you assigned to be important.  This game is enough for most people.

Every now and then someone is wise, honest, and brave enough to see and admit that it is an arbitrary and self controlled game.  We can assign anything to have value and purpose, and we ourselves control the satisfaction.

In a way being suicidal is the ultimate in satisfaction.  We look at life and say, "Eh, there isn't really anything out there I need to pursue or obtain.  I'm OK just doing or being nothing.  Don't really want or need anything.  No carrot on a stick I have to reach for.  So why should I put in any effort?"

What comes after this realization, when all the human games seem transparent and quite silly?  Often people follow through and leave this type of existence behind.  I can't fault them for that.  I understand completely.

The only other possible motivation I can come up with is try to see if there is more to life, while still keeping a foothold in this world.  Not dumb ass spiritual ideas, but maybe yogic practice to try to make some of it reality.  Not to speculate on what might be, but to try to figure out what really is.

This is what I do.  Instead of playing at life I try to study it and figure it out.  Of course this is mostly just my final rationalization, because if I really wanted to know if there is more to life I could have those answers within minutes.  What happens when you die?  Well, let's just go find out.

Yep, mostly I drag myself through life pretending to studying it, desperate to do anything that will distract me from the realization that I don't really like it here that much, and all I want to know is if there is more to life than just this human stuff.

I don't like life, but I am too afraid to up and die.  That's the cold hard truth right there.  More self honesty and clarity than you might often see.  When there is nothing left to believe in, the motivation to live can distill right down to nothing more than fear of death.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: AllGreyThumbs]
    #23875235 - 11/28/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

self deception is rampant here

we are self aware sentient beings and frankly, your limited only by your lack of imagination and follow through.

illumination and action are simultaneous.

I remember thinking such nonsense when I was young.  Who cares anyways?  Life is temporary ~ look at that ~ its temporary, that means you can do anything you can do and after its all said and done it will all be Ok.

Cancer, Addiction, Family, Friends, Heartbreak, being broke, Death of family, death of friends, depression, anxiety, confusion about what the hell were doing perpetuating an insane society, the general necessary evil of the process of just growing up -, paying bills, injustice, unfairness, corruption, the lies, evil, the suffering, the betrayals, the illnesses, the Wars, the trapped feeling, the alienated feeling, the existential angst.

Its all worth it, because on that last breath you take - you remember the truth.

With that said, no need to rush it - because its inevitable, so enjoy the ride and make sure you make real friends to ride with you.  Never give up the search for truth and the greater good and reflecting it in your character, because one day the Dream will end and the sleeper will awaken again.

love is the key to a meaningful life, but it is not the answer, the answer is what you do with your life, and if you give up on your REAL dreams, before you lost faith in your primordial self, you before you bought into the bullshit and forgot who you really are, then your life will feel like an empty shell.  But if you take the reigns and get ALL your shit together and let nothing stop you in your quest to do your best it will change the way you ASK the question, because its all in how you say it.....dont give up.  Because its not forever and this might be your only shot to do this.

if your looking for the perfect sentence to satisfy your question about ultimate meaning - then you need to examine more deeply the real reason the question comes up in the first place.

the state of mind from which you ask the question - is not right. imho.


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