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Offlineviktor
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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: Thanatos10] * 2
    #23854219 - 11/21/16 12:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Y'all can keep posting, and trying to get through his thick skin until you're blue in the face, but he won't listen to any of you.  You're wasting your time, and the attention you're giving him is detrimental to all of us.  He has his mind made up, and is not going to consider ANY other perspective.  He just wants attention.  Just stop.



Because so far nothing has been able to answer the question as to why one should continue to live, why continue to struggle? No one has been able to answer the question about why one should stay alive. I have asked that question all over the Internet and no one has an answer for it.




You must have an answer to this question, because you chose to keep living since the last time you asked it.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #23854349 - 11/21/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You could always hit yourself in the head with a hammer really, really hard. See if that makes death anymore appealing.

Death is easier than living. Based on what I gather from my Friend the afterlife is no joke... not fun at all. It's hard to earn a place in the Kingdom.

"Say goodbye to gravity and say goodbye to death. Hello to eternity and live for every breath" - The Wickerman by Iron Maiden.

"Thought that you'd escape the reaper... You can't escape the Master Keeper."
"Then you ask from your cask is there life after birth. What you sow can mean Hell on this earth"
- Suicide Solution, Ozzy Osbourne

I've personally had a near death experience as a child... ceiling melted into Jesus in the middle of rainbows. Pretty fucking awesome is the only way to describe it.

There's a lot of dreams to accomplish down here before I meet Him again. I'd like that meeting to be joyous and full of laughter. Not one where I'm getting yelled at.


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"Each tear is a drop of poison released." - Anonymous

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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: viktor]
    #23854754 - 11/21/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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viktor said:
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Thanatos10 said:
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DividedQuantum said:
Y'all can keep posting, and trying to get through his thick skin until you're blue in the face, but he won't listen to any of you.  You're wasting your time, and the attention you're giving him is detrimental to all of us.  He has his mind made up, and is not going to consider ANY other perspective.  He just wants attention.  Just stop.



Because so far nothing has been able to answer the question as to why one should continue to live, why continue to struggle? No one has been able to answer the question about why one should stay alive. I have asked that question all over the Internet and no one has an answer for it.




You must have an answer to this question, because you chose to keep living since the last time you asked it.




It's not really and answer so much as it is an automaton just moving on is own by some unseen and unknown directive


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #23854774 - 11/21/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

no directive
none.
this is it.
you want to do drama, go ahead,
you want to be a pilot, go ahead.

there is no directive, no built in migration to be railed against. you are freer than a bird.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #23855382 - 11/21/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Thanatos10 said:
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viktor said:
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Thanatos10 said:
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DividedQuantum said:
Y'all can keep posting, and trying to get through his thick skin until you're blue in the face, but he won't listen to any of you.  You're wasting your time, and the attention you're giving him is detrimental to all of us.  He has his mind made up, and is not going to consider ANY other perspective.  He just wants attention.  Just stop.



Because so far nothing has been able to answer the question as to why one should continue to live, why continue to struggle? No one has been able to answer the question about why one should stay alive. I have asked that question all over the Internet and no one has an answer for it.




You must have an answer to this question, because you chose to keep living since the last time you asked it.




It's not really and answer so much as it is an automaton just moving on is own by some unseen and unknown directive




So keeping following the unseen and unknown directive, since that's obviously good enough to have got you through the last 12 months or so since you last asked the exact same question.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #23855831 - 11/21/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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It's something that I struggle with every day of my life so far. Waking up and wishing for none existence. No dreams, no life. Just nullity.

I know that life exists without reason. It has done so for thousands of years. Yet here we are as humans and wonder why stay alive? The answer of survival doesn't quite catch because then it's also opens the door to "why surivive"?

People tell me al the time that it's worth it, that things get better. But to me hope is a cruel thing to give. Waiting for better days and hoping things turn around when there isn't proof that they will. My future is pretty much nonexistent and I don't see why people bother to keep going on. Why struggle to stay breathing when death is easier? I just can't seem to accurately solve that issue.

I want death, but paradoxically I don't want to die. But I just can't seem to see what others see that makes life worth living. Why they bother to struggle through great difficulty rather than just die.




Logically it is pointless, but the worth of life is subjective and this is true whether we deem it to be worthless or valuable. This observation indicates that seeing life as inherently meaningless is a subjective position and one that generally precludes curiosity towards life's facets in favor of gnawing away forever at meaningless questions. There is no "stuff" of life but for the experiences themselves and it's our experiences that shape the way we think about life. There's only so much pondering that can be done about it. An empty mind is ripe for new experiences. I'm not suggesting you attempt to ditch the pessimism for optimism, but that you not allow it to kill your curiosity towards life and what experiences you might have. Otherwise you are either doomed or waiting for someone to save you.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: Rahz]
    #23855918 - 11/21/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

This is just baby talk, move along folks.

This boy is asking if life is worth living to a damn online forum, instead of finding out By Living.

I think you need some help in your home life , or you just need to grow up, OR you need to go travel around the world and have an oddyssey.  IDK how old you are, but if your not even 30, never had a kid, never traveled the world, never learned another language and lived in another culture or spent more than a year out of mainstream society, you have not one IOTA of what your talking about.  Pretending you have the answers, self deception is bad.  Stop reading nonsense you youngin and go life a damn life worth living.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23855924 - 11/21/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ill talk to you on the phone if your serious.  Because your as blind as a bat.  You are what plato talked about in his allegory of the cave.  PM Me, ill set your ass straight boy with a good phone call.


maybe the life YOUR living is not worth SHIT.  But by god life itself wouldnt be here if it wasnt intrinsically worth it.

only bad thing about the internet is know it all's believe their own bullshit, and find things to conform to it creating endless delusion.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23857427 - 11/22/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The Blind Ass said:
Ill talk to you on the phone if your serious.  Because your as blind as a bat.  You are what plato talked about in his allegory of the cave.  PM Me, ill set your ass straight boy with a good phone call.


maybe the life YOUR living is not worth SHIT.  But by god life itself wouldnt be here if it wasnt intrinsically worth it.

only bad thing about the internet is know it all's believe their own bullshit, and find things to conform to it creating endless delusion.




You are wrong that life itself wouldn't be here if it wasn't worth it. Life exists without reason. It continues to live on whether or not we think it's worth it.

Also your response is full of the same nonsense that has been shot down before. Traveling, children, outside mainstream. Rather pedestrian answers that just dodge the question instead of answer it


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #23857505 - 11/22/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Why wouldn't the answer be subjective?  For some, life is worth living, and for others, it's not.  It depends on the individual, whether they find any value, virtue, appeal out of their subjective experience of living. 

"everyone is looking for something
and they assume somebody else knows what it is
no one can live with the decisions of their own
it seems so they look to someone else
to tell 'em what to be
tell 'em what to wear
tell 'em what to say
tell 'em how to act and think and compel others compulsively
until the world is all like them"

Bad religion - No Direction

(more lyrics)

prepare for rejection you'll get no direction from me
you'll get no direction from me


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23857852 - 11/22/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
no directive
none.
this is it.
you want to do drama, go ahead,
you want to be a pilot, go ahead.

there is no directive, no built in migration to be railed against. you are freer than a bird.




the titties were bigger in the 70s.



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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #23857898 - 11/22/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #23857910 - 11/22/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Why wouldn't the answer be subjective?  For some, life is worth living, and for others, it's not.  It depends on the individual, whether they find any value, virtue, appeal out of their subjective experience of living. 

"everyone is looking for something
and they assume somebody else knows what it is
no one can live with the decisions of their own
it seems so they look to someone else
to tell 'em what to be
tell 'em what to wear
tell 'em what to say
tell 'em how to act and think and compel others compulsively
until the world is all like them"

Bad religion - No Direction

(more lyrics)

prepare for rejection you'll get no direction from me
you'll get no direction from me




With words like that you can endorse anything. Like murder, rape and theft


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #23857935 - 11/22/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:freshwtf:

you are a special lad so special in fact that your speciality is specialness especially due to your very specifically special nature.

a very special lad indeed.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23857948 - 11/22/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The Blind Ass said:
Ill talk to you on the phone if your serious.  Because your as blind as a bat.  You are what plato talked about in his allegory of the cave.  PM Me, ill set your ass straight boy with a good phone call.


maybe the life YOUR living is not worth SHIT.  But by god life itself wouldnt be here if it wasnt intrinsically worth it.

only bad thing about the internet is know it all's believe their own bullshit, and find things to conform to it creating endless delusion.





This guy.

In the words of Janis Joplin "Have another little piece of my heart."


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"Each tear is a drop of poison released." - Anonymous

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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #23858008 - 11/22/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Thanatos10 said:
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CosmicJoke said:
Why wouldn't the answer be subjective?  For some, life is worth living, and for others, it's not.  It depends on the individual, whether they find any value, virtue, appeal out of their subjective experience of living. 

"everyone is looking for something
and they assume somebody else knows what it is
no one can live with the decisions of their own
it seems so they look to someone else
to tell 'em what to be
tell 'em what to wear
tell 'em what to say
tell 'em how to act and think and compel others compulsively
until the world is all like them"

Bad religion - No Direction

(more lyrics)

prepare for rejection you'll get no direction from me
you'll get no direction from me




With words like that you can endorse anything. Like murder, rape and theft




Yup, some but not all people are gratified by such motives.... I feel they are universally shitty, maladjusted, and stunted in nature.  It still doesn't invalidate that they find their lives worth living.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #23858087 - 11/22/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Thanatos10 said:
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The Blind Ass said:
Ill talk to you on the phone if your serious.  Because your as blind as a bat.  You are what plato talked about in his allegory of the cave.  PM Me, ill set your ass straight boy with a good phone call.


maybe the life YOUR living is not worth SHIT.  But by god life itself wouldnt be here if it wasnt intrinsically worth it.

only bad thing about the internet is know it all's believe their own bullshit, and find things to conform to it creating endless delusion.




You are wrong that life itself wouldn't be here if it wasn't worth it. Life exists without reason. It continues to live on whether or not we think it's worth it.

Also your response is full of the same nonsense that has been shot down before. Traveling, children, outside mainstream. Rather pedestrian answers that just dodge the question instead of answer it



Flowers have no "reason" to be, but they sure do smell nice.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #23858145 - 11/22/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

from the first post of the thread

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Thanatos10 said:
It's something that I struggle with every day of my life so far. Waking up and wishing for none existence. No dreams, no life. Just nullity.

I know that life exists without reason. It has done so for thousands of years. Yet here we are as humans and wonder why stay alive? The answer of survival doesn't quite catch because then it's also opens the door to "why surivive"?

People tell me al the time that it's worth it, that things get better. But to me hope is a cruel thing to give. Waiting for better days and hoping things turn around when there isn't proof that they will. My future is pretty much nonexistent and I don't see why people bother to keep going on. Why struggle to stay breathing when death is easier? I just can't seem to accurately solve that issue.

I want death, but paradoxically I don't want to die. But I just can't seem to see what others see that makes life worth living. Why they bother to struggle through great difficulty rather than just die.




very funny

you constantly contradict yourself
"Why struggle to stay breathing when death is easier? "
death aka suicide is not easier - or you would have done it
as you say yourself
"but ... I don't want to die"

then you say
"But to me hope is a cruel thing to give."
but obviously you are involved in hoping yourself or you’d be dead and stop posting
so you are blaming others for what you do yourself & continue doing to yourself

Anyone that constantly battles themselves and blames others will stay unhappy, it’s simply how minds work. Nothing personal or mysterious about it at all.

and finally you indulge in another emotion guaranteed to create unhappiness: jealousy:
“But I just can't seem to see what others see that makes life worth living. “
which is also actually more complaining which is another emotion guaranteed to create unhappiness.

After fucking up your own head and boasting in other posts about how you’ve posted this crap all over the internet for a long time, it is apparent that the one joy you allow yourself, is a little secret feeling of superiority you get from sucking others into your precious little pile of shit. There is no need to reply Thantos - I am not trying to help you - I post to practice what limited writing skills I may have - and to possibly amuse or interact with the other more interesting posters.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: pineninja]
    #23858312 - 11/22/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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pineninja said:
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Thanatos10 said:
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The Blind Ass said:
Ill talk to you on the phone if your serious.  Because your as blind as a bat.  You are what plato talked about in his allegory of the cave.  PM Me, ill set your ass straight boy with a good phone call.


maybe the life YOUR living is not worth SHIT.  But by god life itself wouldnt be here if it wasnt intrinsically worth it.

only bad thing about the internet is know it all's believe their own bullshit, and find things to conform to it creating endless delusion.




You are wrong that life itself wouldn't be here if it wasn't worth it. Life exists without reason. It continues to live on whether or not we think it's worth it.

Also your response is full of the same nonsense that has been shot down before. Traveling, children, outside mainstream. Rather pedestrian answers that just dodge the question instead of answer it



Flowers have no "reason" to be, but they sure do smell nice.




Watch a flower like there is a gun to your head for a month straight in the spring and summer and you will see they do have a Reason.  Many reasons.  Much more than just smelling nice. Some smell horrible, and still have many and roles to play and things to do.

I have found flowers interacting with all kinds of life, with fungi, with bee's, with the sun, with the wind, with the soil, with the earth worms, with each other reproducing, with their scent attracting man to enjoy it and in doing so unknowingly spread its seed for more to share.  This is only the tip of the ice burg of the flower's "reasons".

The same thing the sun is sunning for.


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Re: Is life worth living? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23858437 - 11/22/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Whilst all those things happen, I think ultimately and wholly it's a never ending pointless loop. Doesn't make it less beautiful or joyous....just pointless. I'm an optimistic nihlist.


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