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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: vinsue]
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: endogenous] 1
#23853713 - 11/21/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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endogenous said: Sessions is obviously very against Marijuana.
then show us his senate voting record on marijuana legislation
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: endogenous]
#23856076 - 11/22/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Obama said multiple times he was going to let states who decriminalized pot handle matters themselves and he wouldn't be raiding any more dispensaries.
And Feds kept raiding legal dispensary after legal dispensary. Over and fucking over.
We'll see what he actually does. The public isn't going to put up with any more of that fucking Reefer Madness fucking bullshit.
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23856107 - 11/22/16 12:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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endogenous said: Sessions is obviously very against Marijuana.
then show us his senate voting record on marijuana legislation
Look it up yourself he has consistently voted against it.
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23856126 - 11/22/16 01:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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As far as I can tell he has not voted on any marijuana legislation in the senate. He has voted on some other drug related issues.
Voted YES on increasing penalties for drug offenses.
Vote to increase penalties on certain drug-related crimes. The amendment would specifically target the manufacturing or trafficking of amphetamines & methamphetamines and possession of powder cocaine, and set stronger penalties for dealing drugs http://senate.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Jeff_Sessions_Drugs.htm#1999-360
Voted YES on more penalties for gun & drug violations.
The Hatch amdt would increase mandatory penalties for the illegal transfer or use of firearms, fund additional drug case prosecutors, and require background check on purchasers at gun shows. [A YES vote supports stricter penalties]. Status: Amdt Agreed to Y)48; N)47; NV)5
http://senate.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Jeff_Sessions_Gun_Control.htm#1999-118
Those votes were both a long ass time ago though, and neither are really relevant to the Marijuana question. All I could find.
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23856175 - 11/22/16 02:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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endogenous said: Sessions is obviously very against Marijuana.
then show us his senate voting record on marijuana legislation
"During Senate confirmation hearings for current attorney general Loretta Lynch, Sessions suggested that he viewed opposition to state-level legalization as a core responsibility of America’s top prosecutor." http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/will-the-trump-administration-go-to-war-against-legal-weed.html
He said that the US Attorney General should not accept state level legalization of Marijuana -- AS A CORE RESPONSIBILITY.
Couldn't get any worse than that.
Whether he would do what he says he believes - or whether he would be allowed by Trump to do it remains to be seen.
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: endogenous]
#23856192 - 11/22/16 02:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol, they could be looking at very serious shit if they crack down on the west coast. How out of touch they are with the population is quite ridiculous. People here would take up arms to protect their cannabis in an instant. I'm not necessarily one of them, but the cannabis industry over here is filled with well armed crazy rich paranoid people.
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: twighead] 1
#23856207 - 11/22/16 03:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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twighead said: Lol, they could be looking at very serious shit if they crack down on the west coast. How out of touch they are with the population is quite ridiculous. People here would take up arms to protect their cannabis in an instant. I'm not necessarily one of them, but the cannabis industry over here is filled with well armed crazy rich paranoid people.
Would be crazy to see the the continuation of this failed drug war cause a second civil war... I hope it doesn't come to that but we certainly need some change.
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: musiclover420] 1
#23856211 - 11/22/16 03:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol one idiot in DC isn't gonna do shit.. he'll probably die anyway, he's old as fuck. DEATH
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: endogenous]
#23856238 - 11/22/16 03:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Guns and war is definitely not the way to go. It'd just make alot of heroin and alcohol addicts -- just what the corporate guys want. And it would give the gov. a reason to bring in martial law.
Definitely the wrong way to go - besides being against what Marijuana is all about.
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: Shroomism]
#23856239 - 11/22/16 03:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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There's more than one idiot in DC. People will go nuts, and I do believe he'll wind up caving......but he's gonna go after it.
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: Dark_Star]
#23856243 - 11/22/16 03:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Then out with the pitchforks and OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: IslandShroomer]
#23856534 - 11/22/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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IslandShroomer said: As far as I can tell he has not voted on any marijuana legislation in the senate. He has voted on some other drug related issues.
Voted YES on increasing penalties for drug offenses.
Vote to increase penalties on certain drug-related crimes. The amendment would specifically target the manufacturing or trafficking of amphetamines & methamphetamines and possession of powder cocaine, and set stronger penalties for dealing drugs http://senate.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Jeff_Sessions_Drugs.htm#1999-360
Voted YES on more penalties for gun & drug violations.
The Hatch amdt would increase mandatory penalties for the illegal transfer or use of firearms, fund additional drug case prosecutors, and require background check on purchasers at gun shows. [A YES vote supports stricter penalties]. Status: Amdt Agreed to Y)48; N)47; NV)5
http://senate.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Jeff_Sessions_Gun_Control.htm#1999-118
Those votes were both a long ass time ago though, and neither are really relevant to the Marijuana question. All I could find.
but clearly he's such a danger to marijuana users because the media told them that
he's abstained from voting on any marijuana bills to avoid isolating his constituency as well as to avoid losing potential voters, he did exactly what obama did in the senate. he voted present on those bills, only obama ran for the senate under the auspices that he would vote for legalization
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: endogenous]
#23856560 - 11/22/16 08:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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endogenous said:
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endogenous said: Sessions is obviously very against Marijuana.
then show us his senate voting record on marijuana legislation
"During Senate confirmation hearings for current attorney general Loretta Lynch, Sessions suggested that he viewed opposition to state-level legalization as a core responsibility of America’s top prosecutor." http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/will-the-trump-administration-go-to-war-against-legal-weed.html
He said that the US Attorney General should not accept state level legalization of Marijuana -- AS A CORE RESPONSIBILITY.
Couldn't get any worse than that.
couldnt it get any worse?
obamas administration said after being him being inaugurated that they wouldnt go after any dispensaries as long as they complied with state and federal laws, obama's administration was responsible for more than twice the number of raids on medical marijuana dispensaries as were done under the bush administration...
why?
because on a federal level marijuana is illegal, the USAG is a federal law enforcement officer, with the obama administration relaxing enforcement on immigration laws and only claiming to relax it on federal drug laws while actually ramping it up, dont you think that is a danger as well. the obama administration has decided to pick and choose what laws they'll enforce and while the drug laws not being enforced is a great thing, it's not what happened we were instead misled about it while they went full bore on enforcing those laws
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: Shroomism]
#23856568 - 11/22/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: lol one idiot in DC isn't gonna do shit.. he'll probably die anyway, he's old as fuck. DEATH
he wont die before he calls for a war on the mutants
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23859322 - 11/23/16 01:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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endogenous said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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endogenous said: Sessions is obviously very against Marijuana.
then show us his senate voting record on marijuana legislation
"During Senate confirmation hearings for current attorney general Loretta Lynch, Sessions suggested that he viewed opposition to state-level legalization as a core responsibility of America’s top prosecutor." http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/will-the-trump-administration-go-to-war-against-legal-weed.html
He said that the US Attorney General should not accept state level legalization of Marijuana -- AS A CORE RESPONSIBILITY.
Couldn't get any worse than that.
couldnt it get any worse?
obamas administration said after being him being inaugurated that they wouldnt go after any dispensaries as long as they complied with state and federal laws, obama's administration was responsible for more than twice the number of raids on medical marijuana dispensaries as were done under the bush administration...
why?
because on a federal level marijuana is illegal, the USAG is a federal law enforcement officer, with the obama administration relaxing enforcement on immigration laws and only claiming to relax it on federal drug laws while actually ramping it up, dont you think that is a danger as well. the obama administration has decided to pick and choose what laws they'll enforce and while the drug laws not being enforced is a great thing, it's not what happened we were instead misled about it while they went full bore on enforcing those laws
Let's hope that Sessions is prevented from doing what he says should be a core responsibility of the AG, and that Trump continues to hold to his statements in favor of state's rights regarding Marijuana legalization, and of being in favor of medical Marijuana.
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: endogenous]
#23859965 - 11/23/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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in 2008 all the liberals were claiming obama would legalize marijuana, in 2012 they said he'd do it in his second term
maybe people need to stop listening to liberals
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23862593 - 11/24/16 05:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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In 2013, Obama's policy on Marijuana was to respect states rights.
Trump, on the other hand, is looking to appoint someone who specifically DOESN'T respect states rights for Marijuana.
In a speech on the Senate floor earlier this year, Sessions criticized President Barack Obama for not being tough enough on marijuana, saying the U.S. could be at the beginning of “another surge in drug use like we saw in the ’60s and ’70s.” http://www.mcclatchydc.com/article115643838.html#storylink=cpy
As I said before - hopefully Trump will hold to what he said about states rights.
"Jubilation over marijuana's ballot wins was quickly tempered by the uncertain future marijuana faces under a Trump Justice Department. “The prospect of Donald Trump as our next president concerns me deeply,” Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance, said in a statement. “His most likely appointees to senior law enforcement positions — Rudy Giuliani and Chris Christie — are no friends of marijuana reform, nor is his vice president.”
Regardless of what happens at the state level, marijuana remains illegal for all uses under federal law. The Obama administration has officially adopted a policy of noninterference with state marijuana laws, as outlined in a 2013 memo by then-Deputy Attorney General James Cole.
In the Cole memo, the Justice Department acknowledged the reality that most drug enforcement is carried out by state and local — not federal — authorities. The department's position has been that as long as state legalization efforts didn't threaten certain federal priorities — like keeping marijuana out of the hands of minors, preventing driving while under the influence of drugs and keeping marijuana grow operations out of federal lands — it would exercise “prosecutorial discretion” and direct its limited law enforcement resources to other drug priorities, such as dealing with the opiate epidemic. .... John Hudak, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution who studies marijuana policy, said this memo was instrumental in allowing Colorado and Washington to set up their recreational marijuana markets. “A lot of people forget that [recreational marijuana markets in] Colorado and Washington were pretty much on hold until the governors there received guidance from the Department of Justice,” Hudak said in an interview.
The Drug Policy Alliance's Nadelmann agrees. “I don't think we're going to have quite the same green light coming out of the new administration,” he said in a conference call with reporters.
Reversing the Obama administration's hands-off approach to marijuana would be as simple as withdrawing the Cole memo, Hudak says. And if that were to happen, it's unclear what the effect would be both in states that already have recreational marijuana and in places where state governments are setting up marijuana markets after this year's ballot measures.
“It could have a chilling effect on the willingness of states to move forward with the creation of these systems,” Hudak said. “It could also have a pretty chilling effect on investment in marijuana businesses.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/09/what-the-future-of-marijuana-legalization-could-look-like-under-president-trump/
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: endogenous]
#23862951 - 11/24/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Trump Shock Wave Hits Legal Marijuana Advocates [Re: endogenous]
#23863261 - 11/24/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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endogenous said: In 2013, Obama's policy on Marijuana was to respect states rights.
Trump, on the other hand, is looking to appoint someone who specifically DOESN'T respect states rights for Marijuana.
show us his senate votes on marijuana legalization
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