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Re: Is anyone here an herbalist or knows about naturaly remedies from getting off of psych meds? [Re: plurfekt]
#23850781 - 11/20/16 08:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trazadone 150mg, Geodon 160mg, Clonidine .2mg, Vistaril 200mg daily, Baclofen 50mg daily.. I'm fucked basically..
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Re: Is anyone here an herbalist or knows about naturaly remedies from getting off of psych meds? [Re: JustForToday]
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JustForToday said: Trazadone 150mg, Geodon 160mg, Clonidine .2mg, Vistaril 200mg daily, Baclofen 50mg daily.. I'm fucked basically..
I'm gonna try not to laugh at that last part.
You should see the laundry list of shit I've been on, and successfully come off of man. You're going to be just fine.
Out of all of these the most concerned are the Geodon and Baclofen, followed mildly by the Clonidine.
If you can tell me why you were prescribed these, and why you want off of them, it would make answering your question a lot easier.
Hydroxyzine (Vistaril) - I also have a script for these but don't take them often, and usually 25mg at a time. I've read about some expected visual and auditory changes upon disrupt discontinuation for this one I recommend just bringing it down gradually for a week or so; I would look into Passion Flower tincture, but be sparing with the Passion Flower if you have a sensitive body; otherwise it's quite lovely. Valerian tincture as well (I even know of a good organic double-extraction brand that I swear, does not taste bad; IDK how they did it) and this is great alongside the passion flower for anxiety and sleep.
Based on these medications I'd say you are a male in his youth/young adulthood who suffers from anxiety, depression, insomnia (probably anxiety related) and some form of mood disorder.
Heed my words: Just because a doctor can identify these things; does not make them qualified to treat you with drugs they have never consumed themselves.
So, the geodon. My guess is you didn't like feeling like a Zombie; like most people who stop taking anti-psychotics. It's important to bring this one down gradually as well, despite the side effects. Your brain will thank you for it. Drink a lot of water (not the tap kind).
Baclofen is like, the weakest damn muscle relaxer ever. I'd like to know if you have a specific condition for being prescribed this or if it was merely for comfort, often used by rehabs as a placebo drug/justification for not prescribing something stronger.
Clonidine, for blood pressure, also used for anxiety off-label is quite a safe drug at a .2mg dose, and there are plenty of naturals for that - Turmeric/Cardamom, even ginger, garlic and basil. This can be managed through a healthy diet and exercise, in most cases.
Trazodone can be stopped/started anytime, if you were going to have a negative effect it would have happened already. As a recovering insomniac; I advise you to only go in your bed if you're planning on sleeping (or having sex, or too sick to move or something) but never just lay there for hours trying to fall asleep, get back up and sit in a chair if you must, lay down only to sleep. You'll condition your brain to getting used to this gradually, it really does work...
What is your diet/lifestyle like?
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Re: Is anyone here an herbalist or knows about naturaly remedies from getting off of psych meds? [Re: plurfekt]
#23850912 - 11/20/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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the Geodon I tried tapering before and went into a huge withdrawal that lasted for months so they increased the dosage to 160 to manage. I reinstated the drug a week after my next cut to 40mg. I cut from 80 to 60 in a month. the next month dropped to 40 and that night I lost my fucking mind.
Trazadone I take for sleep. Trazadone coming off of it messes with my stomach.
Clonidine makes me like my heart is racing out of control off of it.. But my blood pressure is really low during my withdrawal.
Baclofen, I was put on that for sleep at night. Ended up taking it throughout the day as it helped my muscle spasms and helped curb my anxiety but it's addictive physically like xanax. It feels similar to xanax withdrawal.. shaking.. feeling crazy.. lightheaded.. headache.. the shaking is the worst..
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Re: Is anyone here an herbalist or knows about naturaly remedies from getting off of psych meds? [Re: JustForToday]
#23850925 - 11/20/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trazadone has a metabolite that is so what psycadelic and illegal in parts of the world (the metabolite). I thought the drug was sorta fucked up. Like almost tripping on something which it is.
I would just wean down the meds that are sorta stupid to take. Also try to modify your behavior.
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Re: Is anyone here an herbalist or knows about naturaly remedies from getting off of psych meds? [Re: JustForToday]
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JustForToday said: the Geodon I tried tapering before and went into a huge withdrawal that lasted for months so they increased the dosage to 160 to manage. I reinstated the drug a week after my next cut to 40mg. I cut from 80 to 60 in a month. the next month dropped to 40 and that night I lost my fucking mind.
Trazadone I take for sleep. Trazadone coming off of it messes with my stomach.
Clonidine makes me like my heart is racing out of control off of it.. But my blood pressure is really low during my withdrawal.
Baclofen, I was put on that for sleep at night. Ended up taking it throughout the day as it helped my muscle spasms and helped curb my anxiety but it's addictive physically like xanax. It feels similar to xanax withdrawal.. shaking.. feeling crazy.. lightheaded.. headache.. the shaking is the worst..
You can stop taking all of those, short of the Geodon, you need to taper carefully on that one.
Something important to take notice of is that many herbs and supplements can interact badly with pharms. Always do a little research on Google, Drugs.com makes sure to list naturals as well but to be safe always check with multiple sources.
If your blood pressure is low, do not take Clonidine, at all. You will not withdrawal.
If discontinuing Trazodone's only symptom is stomach upset, this is mild and I recommend just cutting your pills into quarters and working your way down on a PRN basis - the same goes for the Baclofen, which actually causes stomach-upset as a side effect. Eat something small before bed, like a piece of bread.
The geodon is probably your biggest hurtle and is likely what is causing the more severe symptoms. Trazodone makes some people edgy coming off of it as well, so just wean yourself down.
Passion Flower is like a natural Xanax; especially when mixed with Valerian, so much so that it can actually be habit forming so be careful with that; I'd research anything you intend to try for naturals against the pharms. still active in your blood.
What is your diet/exercise regime like? Do you have any abnormal stressers to worry about while going through this, or do you have the option to pamper yourself a bit?
The rest may cause you discomfort but you're not in any threat of dying unless you have a disposition to suicide, in which case admitting yourself voluntarily to psych to detox is far wiser than going insane and ending up there against your will. That is quite extreme though.
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JustForToday said: Trazadone 150mg, Geodon 160mg, Clonidine .2mg, Vistaril 200mg daily, Baclofen 50mg daily.. I'm fucked basically..
I am an herbalist.
What is your official diagnosis?
Please do not try to taper off your meds or adjust dosage without an extremely solid plan in place first. The ideal situation would be to find an integrative/functional medicine mental health professional who would be able to guide you through the process.
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Re: Is anyone here an herbalist or knows about naturaly remedies from getting off of psych meds? [Re: yogabunny]
#23851752 - 11/20/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Borderline Personality Disorder.
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JustForToday said: Borderline Personality Disorder.
I also have BPD. Diagnosed 8-9 years ago.
You appear to be in the earlier stages and still have a far stronger chance of enjoying your 20's, avoid addictive substances they tear people like us down a hell of a lot faster.
Best doctor I ever met described my life expectancy* to max out at 27. I'm 27...
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Re: Is anyone here an herbalist or knows about naturaly remedies from getting off of psych meds? [Re: plurfekt]
#23852039 - 11/20/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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What's a life dependency?
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PatrickKn said: What's a life dependency?
Lol, typo my bad. I was out of it.
Expectancy* As in, maximum projected amount of years I will survive due to having BPD.
This is not a death sentence, they've been wrong about -everything- so far.
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JustForToday said: Borderline Personality Disorder.
Do you do talk therapy?
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JustForToday said: Borderline Personality Disorder.
Do you do talk therapy?
Having over 8 years of exp. with BPD (and other things) alone; I've had multiple treatment teams put together. At one point consisting of over five types of providers, a primary care physician, a psychiatrist, a psychologist, a dual-diagnosis counselor and neuropsych MD - also had an AA/NA sponsor and a naturopathic nurse/Herbalist on the side.
Out of all of them, I'd say the psychologist & naturopathic RN/Herbalist were the most useful, as they are medically educated but sort-of play the role of counselor, but I couldn't see that person as often due to all the heavy demand in behavioral health departments, and would defer to the counselor/herbalist who did not fully understand my condition.
So, perhaps a psychologist if you don't already have one. I'm sure you are familiar with CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) and things of that nature already, just sharing my experience with BPD treatment.
I'd heavily advise avoiding romantic relationships with women who have BPD; it seems like a match made in heaven and it ends like hell every time. Yale psychiatrist who treated me once told me you can take two people with BPD and put them in a room with a thousand normies, and they will find each other every single time. Interesting, if nothing else. She said in her entire career I was the third person she'd ever met with the true condition (over 25 years in the field).
She also stated 10 years of solid "talk therapy" would be my only likely salvation. I am not that big on talk therapy; but I did meet a counselor recently who's cool as shit, prick still can't return important phone calls though.
Find someone you -really- click with.
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#23853809 - 11/21/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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There really isn't very much good for BPD. Likely it's one of the most self loathing destructive disabilities that exist.
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#23853852 - 11/21/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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birdeatingspider said: No need to get riled up. I think you are confusing being depressed with suffering from depression.. humongous difference.
Mental illness is most certainly genetically dispositioned, passed down through generations. There is no contesting this medical fact.
I am all for the belief that changing thinking patterns can influence well being, but I believe your confusion lies in the misunderstanding that underlying conditions disable one from being able to do such. There cannot be a way without a will.
In this day and age, with the information available- your stance conveys invalidation and ignorance.
There's more to the eye, you know this.. but imagine how crappy suffering from cancer would be.. how would you feel if someone told you to 'snap out' of your affliction.
well said. Sudly should also remember that psychedelics aren't for everyone and may indeed exacerbate underlying mental health issues.
JFT, feel free to drop me a PM anytime about stuff like this, I've had my own dealings with meds and docs and am more than happy to talk if you want. However, perhaps we should revisit how things were before you started meds. Were things a lot more rocky then? if so, maybe it's best to stay on some kind of meds, though if you are having difficulties, there are others out there that may treat your conditons a lot better.
I think i mentioned CBD to you to help you out with anxiety and mood last time we talked, you should always check facts here, but i believe it will not interact with any of the medications you listed to me.
Also, one of your drugs was a gabaergic substance, adding in L-theanine may further reduce anxiety levels by indirectly increasing levels of GABA in the brain. It's a very calming substance and not well known for drug interactions either.
two of the best treatments for your condition however are cognitive behavioral therapy and dialectal behavioral therapy
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Re: Is anyone here an herbalist or knows about naturaly remedies from getting off of psych meds? [Re: 404]
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I've heard good things about DBT for people in whom CBT failed with, it's more of an appropriate atmosphere-oriented therapy to my understanding, focuses on things more pertinent to our "self loathing" conditions, lol...what the fck.
Also important to note if you were diagnosed with BPD within 1 year of being actively addicted to drugs, your doctor is an idiot. You cannot diagnose someone properly if they have underlying issues such as addiction going on, and they OFTEN DO. My diagnosis in personality disorders has been changed five damn times, but BPD was one of the first, and the last to get hit with. I guess I'll see what the 6th says in 2-3 weeks...
So it is very important to try to remember back to before you were on these meds and how you behaved and interacted with the world; because you are not you on Geodon, not to mention..BPD is falsely diagnosed all the damn time, my step-father even got hit with it recently and I know for a fact he is not borderline, seemed like a convenient way for them to prescribe more/stronger drugs.
Best of luck, this is not a death sentence.. you ever need to talk with someone with true BPD, feel free to PM me.
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well said. Sudly should also remember that psychedelics aren't for everyone and may indeed exacerbate underlying mental health issues.
JFT, feel free to drop me a PM anytime about stuff like this, I've had my own dealings with meds and docs and am more than happy to talk if you want. However, perhaps we should revisit how things were before you started meds. Were things a lot more rocky then? if so, maybe it's best to stay on some kind of meds, though if you are having difficulties, there are others out there that may treat your conditons a lot better.
I think i mentioned CBD to you to help you out with anxiety and mood last time we talked, you should always check facts here, but i believe it will not interact with any of the medications you listed to me.
Also, one of your drugs was a gabaergic substance, adding in L-theanine may further reduce anxiety levels by indirectly increasing levels of GABA in the brain. It's a very calming substance and not well known for drug interactions either.
two of the best treatments for your condition however are cognitive behavioral therapy and dialectal behavioral therapy
I am finding in my work that essential oils/aromatherapy are also really effective for mood management and emotional balancing. I've been using and studying essential oils for almost nine years, and in the past year I have been going pretty deep with it.
They work very subtly yet profoundly on the Limbic system, specifically the Amygdala, which is stimulated ONLY through the sense of smell, and plays a major role in the storing and processing of emotions.
So the premise is that essential oils/aromatherapy can help enable us to access stored or forgotten memories and "undigested" emotions so that we can acknowledge, integrate and release.
I think the essential oils high in sesquiterpenes would be best in this case as they are the ones that cross the blood brain barrier. Cedarwood and Sandalwood, for example. They are known to be calming to the nervous system as well as anti-inflammatory.
The other reason essential oils are effective are because the molecules are really small and lipid soluble. They're able to penetrate the skin AND cell membranes very quickly for a true healing from the inside out at a cellular level.
They have helped me enormously and I do know people who have gotten off antidepressants with them.
Also would recommend looking into Yoga Nidra, OP!
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Re: Is anyone here an herbalist or knows about naturaly remedies from getting off of psych meds? [Re: yogabunny]
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I just got into a full swing with essential oils myself; and I find aromatherapy far superior to say, acupuncture which I've also had the displeasure of experimenting with.
I -love- Lavender for it's calming effects and I'm an extreme fan of Palmarosa, and Lime. Blending the three is the smell of me lately - it used to be Acqua Di Gio by Armani lol :P
Sometimes just the feeling of being natural is enough to have a profound psychological effect, whether physiological or psychosomatic - it just works, and while I was skeptical at first coming from a world of excessive western medicine, I do notice physical effects and often immediately. I'm investing into an essential oil still to start producing my own when I launch my naturopathics business which was primarily tinctures and raw herbs/fungi until now, and I'm expanding into facial creams and things of that nature as well.
Definitely recommend you get some Lavender OP, it's one of the most common essential oils; and with good cause.
Ever need a northern forager to do you some favors Yogabunny, let me know. I supply a local herbalist and am always enjoying branching out to help others, this seems to be one of the most effective methods for me to deal with my BPD and other co-morbid conditions such as addiction, depression, anxiety.
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Re: Is anyone here an herbalist or knows about naturaly remedies from getting off of psych meds? [Re: plurfekt]
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birdeatingspider said: Again, I will reference the cancer patient who cannot will herself well. If a brain is genetically deficient by various means, or does not function properly, intervention is necessary in order to preserve quality of life.
With respect, your post is drenched in stigma.
Also, certain mental conditions can be exasperated by introducing psychedelics, even weed. It has nothing to do with legality but safety and harm reduction.
There are very few instances where a brain is "genetically deficient" or "doesn't function properly". Genetic predispositions definitely play a role in all diseases but environment is the ultimate determinant. In many psychiatric illnesses, as in the majority of chronic illnesses, the relationship between parasitic organisms and chronic inflammation is increasingly being illuminated as a causal factor. For example, a major one of interest in the psychiatric field is toxoplasma. Given that positive and negative affect, sunlight, diet, sleep quality, exercise, etc all heavily influence immune regulation willing yourself back to health is not just a vague concept but a mandatory part of getting well. Of course intervention can be necessary too. I ultimately agree with you on the safety of psychedelics and all that and that it should be treated as a true medical issue and not a vague feeling of sadness. But i don't like the perpetuation of the idea that diseases are unavoidable and necessarily need technological intervention. The fraction of diseases that result from "dysfunctions" as opposed to collapses in internal ecosystem dynamics is truly miniscule. Furthermore, the quality of intervention is contingent on this understanding otherwise it's likely to be unsustainable and only suppress symptoms. This applies to the cancer patient as well. Cancer is certainly characterized by genetic abnormalities but it is by no means a genetic illness.
Not an herbalist so take my word with a grain of salt but of particular interest to me for neurological issues is chinese skullcap. Proceed with caution. Also i'd suspect that some sort of immune modulating agent like astragalus could be helpful. But herbalism is a very complex art and I would strive to visit a qualified professional rather than take advice willy nilly. Of course, sometimes it's all we can do. But most herbs really shine in the context of well designed formulas and lifestyle modifications as opposed to being standalone treatments.
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plurfekt said: Sometimes just the feeling of being natural is enough to have a profound psychological effect, whether physiological or psychosomatic - it just works, and while I was skeptical at first coming from a world of excessive western medicine, I do notice physical effects and often immediately. I'm investing into an essential oil still to start producing my own when I launch my naturopathics business which was primarily tinctures and raw herbs/fungi until now, and I'm expanding into facial creams and things of that nature as well.
Definitely recommend you get some Lavender OP, it's one of the most common essential oils; and with good cause.
Ever need a northern forager to do you some favors Yogabunny, let me know. I supply a local herbalist and am always enjoying branching out to help others, this seems to be one of the most effective methods for me to deal with my BPD and other co-morbid conditions such as addiction, depression, anxiety.
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That's awesome that you're getting your own still! I am actually a rep for the brand I use, and I'm going to Nepal in May to check out our Wintergreen operation and help with Earthquake relief/rebuilding through our Charity.
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Not an herbalist so take my word with a grain of salt but of particular interest to me for neurological issues is chinese skullcap. Proceed with caution. Also i'd suspect that some sort of immune modulating agent like astragalus could be helpful. But herbalism is a very complex art and I would strive to visit a qualified professional rather than take advice willy nilly. Of course, sometimes it's all we can do. But most herbs really shine in the context of well designed formulas and lifestyle modifications as opposed to being standalone treatments.
Really well put!!!
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Re: Is anyone here an herbalist or knows about naturaly remedies from getting off of psych meds? [Re: yogabunny]
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I speak from experience.
Also, you are going to want to be really careful mixing Scuttelaria lateriflora (Skullcap) with Geodon, Hydroxyzine, and Trazodone - the increased drownsiness and dizziness associated with all three could be unpleasant, or it could be the "good" kind like I find in Valerian/Passion Flower.
Since you are going to taper, I wouldn't advise that until most if not all of the drugs have left your blood. Skullcap, especially in conjunction with other herbs is a great substance but can be less forgiving than other herbs. Same with say, St. Johns Wort - I've had terrible reactions to that one while tapering off psych meds, and I'd never had a bad reaction to an herb including St. Johns Wort prior to that.
As with any medication, if you are going to try mixing herbal supplements with these pharms, start with a low dose, miniscule even. Also, do not use dirty cheap brands - always stay organic and with reputable brands.
That being said, there is a great deal of stigma against BPD. I'm not saying this is right, at all - quite the contrary. It's simply the truth of societies current viewpoints via the masses. It's still not a death sentence (or even a proper diagnosis often times), it just means that the greater population lacks any and all understanding of what this condition really is, or how to deal with it as a problem, or interact with the people whom have it. This results in BPD patients having to search for those who do understand in order to get help, and they are few, but they are out there.
Thanks yogabunny; it seems like a great hobby/resource if nothing else - sounds like you greatly enjoy your involvement and that's always a motivator. I've always wanted to do this type of volunteer work; but I'm too mentally ill to be a pillar for others; I seem to function better on the edge of society, or just... with my dog in the woods, still - I try to find ways to do good when I can, my disgust for the human race is paralleled with my love for the human condition... world is full of ironies; I've always dreamed of working with Stamets as a volunteer/pupil; but I'm sure he has people lining up for that more qualified than myself. I hope Japan will be alright after the earthquake they just had; raises nuclear concerns as well due to tsunamis along Fukushima, with a LOT of radiation already found along the west coast of the US. Can be a defeating feeling, that the wicked are killing this planet faster than we can heal it, and people are killing each other faster than we can educate them to love.
I forage primarily along the Mississippi River Minnesota-Wisconsin border, started out with an instinct & luck for finding Chaga, and since I forage pretty much anything I can find and convert to food or medicine (I'm usually tracking down Turkey Tail, Reishi, Oyster, Birch polypores, Ginseng, Chamomile, etc - eyes peeled for things of current demand while out there). Once in a while I travel to Northern MN and the UP Michigan as well - but my area only has a handful of naturopath-types who forage and is relatively untouched; and I am always striving to find new and interesting things to forage/cultivate. Here's one reference for some typical indigenous herbs not too far from here (although there is much more out there) - Janesville Area Herb Society. Right now I have some demand for Turkey Tail and I know where a lovely blue variety grows quite abundantly.
I go for the rare ones; or expensive ones to cultivate or purchase typically. Have several unharvested Chaga sites located and a handful I've been allowing to regenerate. Harder to find on true white birch (I have a couple sites for that in the bluffs) but I find it all over on River birch. I've noticed no real difference, honestly. I plan on having them each lab tested to see the variations.
I recommend Chaga -for everyone- (except people taking antibiotics, because it will overpower them via its anti-fungal properties)
The herbalist I work with here typically uses me for fungi demand and knowledge, but it's not like herbs are beyond my reach - she just has loads of them, if anything I'm looking for specific requests as I stumble on all kinds of stuff - literally cannot carry it all back with me when Chaga harvesting and I'm not weak, esp. in peak condition.
I still haven't heard enough about the OP's underlying issues, physical health, diet & exercise regimen, & etc; hasn't even stated why he wants off the meds beyond "they are causing too many problems." - so no one here can give accurate advice like that of an ND ; in this thread I would say Yogabunny is most qualified though. We can merely answer the questions to the best of our ability based on the information given. As a person with BPD who has been on almost every psych med known to mankind, I can tell you that while medications/herbal supplements can be helpful, I can also tell you the consequences of mixing psych withdrawal and untested herbs could be more damaging than dealing with it naturally. In my case, it was. I even took supplements I was familiar with and bang, instant horrible side effects out of nowhere.
OP, what's your position on cannabis? When not going through benzo withdrawal - and I'm still so tempted to retest that status quo, I find it to be the safest and most helpful herb out there. Pairs lovely with Valerian and Passion Flower, Lavender essential oil, and Chaga. I say give your body and brain the best nutrition possible so your brains neuroplasticity/ability to heal is at full function, and you will regenerate faster with immune boosting supplements and adaptogens in your system, as well as the immediate absorption* of macro-nutrients. The brain has an amazing ability to regenerate from both organic and inorganic damage, or I simply wouldn't be here.
Anyone else notice Shroomery's spell-checker sucks, lol.. Probably one of the only functions on here that drives me nuts, flags correct words as incorrect and has me questioning my vocabulary, like "wut!" ; never hurts to Re-google definitions and proper spelling of words, but can get excessive.
This reminds me to call my local herbalist and set up a meet; she doesn't even know I'm back in town... been meaning to tell her some seeds she traded me for Chaga a while back won my nephew the science fair (well, actually it was my veg cab design, but I couldn't source seeds locally last winter due to my nearby nursery going out of business - sad day for me). We always have great talks but she's a busy woman and time is money, and I'm not big on paying out of pocket for consults.
Edited by plurfekt (11/22/16 09:39 AM)
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