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Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation
    #23848035 - 11/19/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation

Marriage has lost it's purpose for men... no benefit at all.



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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PsychoReactive] * 1
    #23848140 - 11/19/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My buddy was telling me about this fuckery the other day :rofl:

So are you a subscriber to the MGTOW ethos?


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: hex_enduction]
    #23848170 - 11/19/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah found MGTOW last year and been following it since, makes a lot of sense in the west anyway. :douchewink::heytherebadboy:


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #23848188 - 11/19/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

MGTOW?


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PsychoReactive] * 4
    #23848235 - 11/19/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've noticed a pattern among MGTOW men..they're usually not the type of guys women tend to go for in the first place..it's almost like a sarcastic self deprecating joke in a way.

But I'll give you that..western women can be pretty insane..I remember hearing about women selling pregnancy tests with positive readings on the internet a little while back. Didn't watch the video in the OP, but I wouldn't be surprised if that were mentioned.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Eminence]
    #23848246 - 11/19/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I've noticed a pattern among MGTOW men..they're usually not the type of guys women tend to go for in the first place..it's almost like a sarcastic self deprecating joke in a way.



Really? I know plenty of MGTOWs who were ex PUAs... so they were drowning in pussy before they realised it's far better not to get married or live with a woman. Women kill you dreams and financial Independence... :raisemyglass:


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #23848256 - 11/19/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Idk, I guess I've only seen the fat neck bearded MGTOWs that clearly use it as a reason they're not getting laid. :shrug: Those are the ones that just "avoid" women altogether apparently.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #23848276 - 11/19/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Is this a relatively new thing?  It seems to me my first wife, ten years younger and hot as fuck could push a man into this idea.  I am going to say that it is a cultural or societal shift in women being raised in single parent homes having less respect for a healthy relationship and what it is made of.  As well as no respect for men after being raised by a bitter single mom, as the mom almost always were rewarded sole custody until recently.
That is just a theory.
I was taught both parents are as important on different levels and have had longer lasting relationships than the majority of my cohorts, male and female both.
I also feel mutual respect has been on a steady decline in our culture for a couple of generations that could effect this as well.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23848281 - 11/19/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What's that movie where the gold diggers marry all these men and take half their shit like it's a game? That movie pissed me off. I bet that movie inspired a lot of bitches to try the same shit too.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PsychoReactive] * 4
    #23848299 - 11/19/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I googled MGTOW.

That is some lame ass shit. It's almost like they were butthurt over all the other lame ass labeled groups, so they gathered to form one of their own.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #23848303 - 11/19/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's actually because they've become infected with the gay.  Man up and marry another man already.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23848328 - 11/19/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I googled MGTOW.

That is some lame ass shit. It's almost like they were butthurt over all the other lame ass labeled groups, so they gathered to form one of their own.



This.....
I also had to google
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It's actually because they've become infected with the gay.  Man up and marry another man already.



Also..... This :grin:


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #23848338 - 11/19/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah OP you might as well just avoid labeling yourself like that because most people are just gonna lump you in with the losers that come to mind when "MGTOW" is mentioned. Also, it does seem that women aren't as loyal as they used to be but that doesn't mean you can't find any good ones still. Drop that label dude.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Eminence]
    #23848356 - 11/19/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah OP you might as well just avoid labeling yourself like that because most people are just gonna lump you in with the losers that come to mind when "MGTOW" is mentioned. Also, it does seem that women aren't as loyal as they used to be but that doesn't mean you can't find any good ones still. Drop that label dude.




They were never loyal to begin with. It started in the garden of Eden and the legacy of shame has lasted until today. A couple generations ago, women were just way more submissive because of personal rights or not as many options, and were ultimately afraid of societal out-casting or negative impact.

Now that women are empowered... well... you already know the story.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PartoftheSource] * 4
    #23848360 - 11/19/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah OP you might as well just avoid labeling yourself like that because most people are just gonna lump you in with the losers that come to mind when "MGTOW" is mentioned. Also, it does seem that women aren't as loyal as they used to be but that doesn't mean you can't find any good ones still. Drop that label dude.




They were never loyal to begin with. It started in the garden of Eden and the legacy of shame has lasted until today. A couple generations ago, women were just way more submissive because of personal rights or not as many options, and were ultimately afraid of societal out-casting or negative impact.

Now that women are empowered... well... you already know the story.



I can never take you seriously again.
You just referenced Eden like it really happened.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PartoftheSource] * 1
    #23848365 - 11/19/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't watched the video yet, but I can already tell you that this video is bullshit for one big reason off the top of my head.

The real purpose of marriage is for kids. Very few people get married with the intention of having no children at all in the future.

Men always complain about how they don't get awarded custody in court, well guess what, one sure way to ensure that you'll get proper custody rights of your kids is through marriage. Even if you divorce later on, the fact that you were married gives you at least as much custody rights as her. You get as much say in the child's life as she does.

In fact marital spouses are given such parental rights, that they are even given custody to children that are not biologically theirs. Meaning if a woman has children from a previous marriage or relationship, and she marries another man and they divorce, because that man was married to her and therefore raised the child as his, he is legally entitled to share custody with that woman, even if the child is biologically hers and not his at all.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PartoftheSource] * 1
    #23848366 - 11/19/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't buy that. If a man can be loyal than a woman surely can too.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PsychoReactive] * 8
    #23848382 - 11/19/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Seems like a cringy 'personality cult'. You don't need to identify as a person who doesn't marry to avoid marriage. Millions of people aren't married and don't plan to, and they don't write books or join a club to do so. It's pretty silly. But whatever, to each their own.



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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23848383 - 11/19/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I can never take you seriously again.
You just referenced Eden like it really happened.




Can we sayyyyyyyy, parable?

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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Eminence]
    #23848385 - 11/19/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't buy that. If a man can be loyal than a woman surely can too.




Adultery in the heart and mind is still Adultery my friend.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PartoftheSource] * 2
    #23848388 - 11/19/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't buy that. If a man can be loyal than a woman surely can too.




Adultery in the heart and mind is still Adultery my friend.




That would literally make every single person aside from monks cheaters. By your standards, every person who has ever masturbated to porn, or saw a person walking by and thought they were hot is cheating??? :bored:


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #23848392 - 11/19/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Seems like a cringy 'personality cult'. You don't need to identify as a person who doesn't marry to avoid marriage. Millions of people aren't married and don't plan to, and they don't write books or join a club to do so. It's pretty silly. But whatever, to each their own.




Yup. Reminds me of back some years ago when I quit using drugs and everyone started saying I was straight edge.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23848393 - 11/19/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't make the rules. lol


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23848395 - 11/19/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Well I don't go by Christian standards. I guarantee by that logic you're a cheater as well. You can't force yourself to not be attracted to other people.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Eminence]
    #23848401 - 11/19/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Of course I am. Adultery in the heart and mind is very low on the totem of judgement. We have biological trickery to blame.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PartoftheSource] * 1
    #23848431 - 11/19/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't buy that. If a man can be loyal than a woman surely can too.




Adultery in the heart and mind is still Adultery my friend.



Is this a parable as well?
Most educated humans know both of your last two posts are religion fear based trash.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23848437 - 11/19/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Actually, a parable is a story that illustrates a lesson using human beings. That is a metaphor.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PsychoReactive] * 1
    #23848456 - 11/19/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Jesus Christ people define your fucking acronyms not one person bothered to say what that acronym stands for?

what's wrong with yall?

anyways statistically marriage benefits men more than women.

rates of suicide, depression, alcoholism, addiction, homelessness etc are all much lower for married men as opposed to unmarried men and life expectancy and health is better.

these benefits of marriage are much less for women .

married men tend to die shortly after their spouse dies. Married women keep on keeping on when the husband dies.

when you look at the stats men need marriage  (Much) more then women. 

but get a prenup.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23848465 - 11/19/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hit her up with a prenup, my boyyyy!


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    #23848468 - 11/19/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Actually, a parable is a story that illustrates a lesson using human beings. That is a metaphor.



You WERE referring to humans, no?
Silly detail arguments for weak thoughts.  Let's get back to topic, sir.
You are saying you are a sexist, perhaps closeted gay man with mommy issues who found your answers in a 2,000 year old book of parables metaphors and basic good vs bad lessons which has been retranslated more than any other piece of literature known to man kind?
We can go from there.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23848485 - 11/19/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Actually, a parable is a story that illustrates a lesson using human beings. That is a metaphor.



You WERE referring to humans, no?
Silly detail arguments for weak thoughts.  Let's get back to topic, sir.
You are saying you are a sexist, perhaps closeted gay man with mommy issues who found your answers in a 2,000 year old book of parables metaphors and basic good vs bad lessons which has been retranslated more than any other piece of literature known to man kind?
We can go from there.
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Things would make a lot more sense and be easier for your mind if all that were true, huh?


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23848498 - 11/19/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No, I will never understand humans who need a book to tell them what is good vs bad.
Seems I hit a nerve, granted I was reaching after coffee n Kratom but apparently I hit my mark.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: A.RichardTrickle] * 1
    #23848505 - 11/19/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You are projecting, good sir.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #23848516 - 11/19/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Marriage has lost it's purpose for men... no benefit at all.






I do't think I've ever agreed more with a video than this one..

I so against marriage, you have no idea. I dump women immediately when they bring it up.

The minute sex robots hit the market, women will be 100% obsolete for me.

I have 0 use for someone in my life other than sex. Companionship does nothing for me.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23848534 - 11/19/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No, not really.
Bored and buzzed, yes.
Reformed Baptist, yes.
Deductive, sure.
Projecting, not so much.

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Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation

Marriage has lost it's purpose for men... no benefit at all.






I do't think I've ever agreed more with a video than this one..

I so against marriage, you have no idea. I dump women immediately when they bring it up.

The minute sex robots hit the market, women will be 100% obsolete for me.

I have 0 use for someone in my life other than sex. Companionship does nothing for me.



Because you are a soulless narcissist???


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23848540 - 11/19/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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No, not really.
Bored and buzzed, yes.
Reformed Baptist, yes.
Deductive, sure.
Projecting, not so much.

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Marriage has lost it's purpose for men... no benefit at all.






I do't think I've ever agreed more with a video than this one..

I so against marriage, you have no idea. I dump women immediately when they bring it up.

The minute sex robots hit the market, women will be 100% obsolete for me.

I have 0 use for someone in my life other than sex. Companionship does nothing for me.



Because you are a soulless narcissist???




Soulless, yes. Narcissist, no. I'm more of a sociopath


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Patlal]
    #23848557 - 11/19/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hey, not a bad guess....
:haha:
I've yet to meet a great chef/line cook who is not a bit sociopathic.
The weak ones don't last a weekend.
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    #23848566 - 11/19/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey, not a bad guess....
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I've yet to meet a great chef/line cook who is not a bit sociopathic.
The weak ones don't last a weekend.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23848603 - 11/19/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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No, not really.
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Deductive, sure.
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    #23848606 - 11/19/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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No, I will never understand humans who need a book to tell them what is good vs bad.





well I don't know about you but without the bible I would never have figured out that having a foreskin is bad, Impaling people who marry outside the tribe is good, wearing clothes of more than one material is bad, and blood sacrifice is good.

Frankly, without the bible you are lost and will surely not make the correct number of animal sacrifices.

and remember if two men are fighting and one of their wives crushes the other man's testicles with her hand you need to cut her hand off.

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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23848615 - 11/19/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I thought you read the bible?


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    #23848618 - 11/19/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You guys are so jaded by your fixed judgement of the bible and anyone who may insinuate it's teachings or even it's existence. I spout off with a parable and a metaphor from the bible, and you guys roast on a book with good morals. I defend the underdog and you guys assume i'm a religious zealot.


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    #23848640 - 11/19/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I do. I have read the entire bible , cover to cover, and I am a devout Christian.


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    #23848667 - 11/19/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

have you actually read the bible? the whole thing ?

to say it has good morals is a bit of a half truth . the bible is chock full of absolute moral atrocity and exhortations to absolute evil .

it also contains a lot of magnificent wisdom and moral excellence. objectively the ratio is about 9 parts moral atrocity to 1 part moral gold.

if you started at the beginning of the bible and fulfilled each rule one at a time you would commit dozens of horrific murders before you ever did anything good.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23848712 - 11/19/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, it's a half truth. and I was an alter boy.


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    #23848728 - 11/19/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Is that your way of saying you were molested by a priest?

I have enormous love and respect for the bible. Too much respect to lie and pretend it isn't full of vicious evil madness and absurdity. (In addition to some beautiful, profound and transcendent wisdom and beauty).



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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23848749 - 11/19/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Nah, that priest was mad respectable, and the bible just follows the balance of all things.


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    #23848750 - 11/19/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Teeee
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    #23848866 - 11/19/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You're not including me in that post are you? I wasn't insulting you when I said I don't go by Christian standards, I just don't. But I still believe that if you do follow that same logic then that would most likely make you a cheater too though.


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    #23848900 - 11/19/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't buy that. If a man can be loyal than a woman surely can too.




Adultery in the heart and mind is still Adultery my friend.




That would literally make every single person aside from monks cheaters. By your standards, every person who has ever masturbated to porn, or saw a person walking by and thought they were hot is cheating??? :bored:



I think there would be more exceptions than just monks, like anyone who isn't married (or at the very least, everyone who's single).

There's a whole commandment on not coveting your neighbor's wife. None of them directly address coveting unmarried women though, even if you yourself are married.


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I don't buy that. If a man can be loyal than a woman surely can too.




Adultery in the heart and mind is still Adultery my friend.




That would literally make every single person aside from monks cheaters. By your standards, every person who has ever masturbated to porn, or saw a person walking by and thought they were hot is cheating??? :bored:



I think there would be more exceptions than just monks, like anyone who isn't married (or at the very least, everyone who's single).

There's a whole commandment on not coveting your neighbor's wife. None of them directly address coveting unmarried women though, even if you yourself are married.



That is only Old Testament.
New believers base thier lives on the teachings of Christ, and somewhere in the New Testament it mentions something of impure thoughts as well as the 10 commandments.
All that curtain (shroud) in the holy of holies tearing during Christ crucifixtion.
I'm not as up to date as I was when I was 15 but it's close.
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    #23849141 - 11/19/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Marriage has always been some sort of legal joke




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    #23849170 - 11/19/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Jesus said anyone who looked at another woman with lust was guilty of adultery. it's an absurd standard but it's the one Jesus laid out.


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    #23849181 - 11/19/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation

Marriage has lost it's purpose for men... no benefit at all.






I do't think I've ever agreed more with a video than this one..

I so against marriage, you have no idea. I dump women immediately when they bring it up.

The minute sex robots hit the market, women will be 100% obsolete for me.

I have 0 use for someone in my life other than sex. Companionship does nothing for me.



I know a lot of unhappy people with your pov. One of my friends is a happy go lucky energetic and seemingly positive kind of guy. Except certain times you can see his dissatisfaction and deep down depression poke through. Like he'll have sudden outbursts of intense anger over minor shit, or when he gets drunk you see just how lonely he is.

He always talks about how he doesnt need or want a woman, they cant handle his badass ways and what not. He just wants sex, which he never gets because he's completely awkward around women. He's in complete denial.


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    #23849246 - 11/19/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Marriage has lost it's purpose for men... no benefit at all.






Marriage is more beneficial for men than women, study shows

Marriage has long been cited as a health booster, with couples living in wedded bliss more likely to live longer and have fewer emotional problems.

Yet a new study suggests that women hardly benefit from tying the knot.

Landmark research by University College London, the London School of Economics and The London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine found that single women do not suffer the same negative health effects as unmarried men.

Not marrying or cohabiting is less detrimental among woman than men,” said Dr George Ploubidis, a population health scientist at the UCL Institute of Education.

“Being married appears to be more beneficial for men.”


A major study in 2011 found that being married lowered the risk of premature death by 15 per cent. The previous year research by the World Health Organisation found marriage could reduce the risk of anxiety and depression and those who tied the knot were much less likely to suffer the blues than those who stayed single.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/03/14/marriage-is-more-beneficial-for-men-than-women-study-shows/

Men, marriage, and mortality

A major survey of 127,545 American adults found that married men are healthier than men who were never married or whose marriages ended in divorce or widowhood. Men who have marital partners also live longer than men without spouses; and the longer a man stays married, the greater his survival advantage over his unmarried peers.


Marriage and the heart

If marriage protects health, the heart would be a likely beneficiary. Japanese scientists reported that never-married men were three times more likely to die from cardiovascular disease than married men. And a report from the Framingham Offspring Study also suggests that marriage is truly heartwarming. Scientists evaluated 3,682 adults over a 10-year period. Even after taking major cardiovascular risk factors such as age, body fat, smoking, blood pressure, diabetes, and cholesterol into account, married men had a 46% lower rate of death than unmarried men.


marriage appears to have a positive effect on a variety of health outcomes. Mental health is the most prominent; married men have a lower risk of depression and a higher likelihood of satisfaction with life in retirement than their unmarried peers. Being married has also been linked to better cognitive function, a reduced risk of Alzheimer's disease, improved blood sugar levels, and better outcomes for hospitalized patients.

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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23849295 - 11/19/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

well, I hope that crosses over to same sex relationships.:grin:


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    #23849493 - 11/19/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Jesus said anyone who looked at another woman with lust was guilty of adultery. it's an absurd standard but it's the one Jesus laid out.




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    #23849506 - 11/19/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Jesus said anyone who looked at another woman with lust was guilty of adultery. it's an absurd standard but it's the one Jesus laid out.




That's not surprise because Jesus loves the little children.



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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #23849770 - 11/19/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone know Tom Leykis? He is a MGTOW, gets laid more than 99% of Shroomery and is a fat man to boot... why? Cos he has money, power and fame (all that's needed to attract pussy). :raisemyglass:


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #23849846 - 11/19/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Jesus said anyone who looked at another woman with lust was guilty of adultery. it's an absurd standard but it's the one Jesus laid out.




I think it's because the act of cheating starts with a thought.  Sort of like a chain-reaction of temptation.  Kind of like relapse on drugs.

Marriage before sex would result in the elimination of STD's, it would eliminate unwanted children, broken homes, abortions(thoughts of which last for the woman's life time).

From an ideological benefit of society it makes sense.  From a practical point it fails, especially if the marriage is abusive and/or ends up being incompatible.  But it kind of boils down to make better choices.


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    #23849951 - 11/19/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I googled MGTOW.

That is some lame ass shit. It's almost like they were butthurt over all the other lame ass labeled groups, so they gathered to form one of their own.



This.....
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It's actually because they've become infected with the gay.  Man up and marry another man already.



Also..... This :grin:



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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Sheekle] * 1
    #23849970 - 11/19/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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    #23850015 - 11/19/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think the best woman to marry, in my mind, is foreign and God-fearing.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Sheekle]
    #23850016 - 11/19/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

LOL, It's like they are calling the person a dick.:grin:


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I googled MGTOW.

That is some lame ass shit. It's almost like they were butthurt over all the other lame ass labeled groups, so they gathered to form one of their own.



This.....
I also had to google
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It's actually because they've become infected with the gay.  Man up and marry another man already.



Also..... This :grin:



You forgot to say Dick at the end of this post and the one after it man



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    #23850019 - 11/19/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I think the best woman out there, in my mind, is foreign and God-fearing. When I find her I won't hesitate to marry her.



So go to another God-Fearing country and find yourself one. Why wait for the foreign God fearing hottie to come to you?


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    #23850140 - 11/19/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

MGTOW formed in the western world during the third wave feminism movement in which women were going their own way in an attempt to invert and subvert men's standing in the world. The female movement that sparked MGTOW was doomed to failure and set many games into motion. Some men lowered themselves to play these games with such women and lost themselves... : The overly sensitive, gender confused, sjw pussified males of today who don't know what's right, how to stand up for it, and have no foundation.

Other men realizing the tainted pool and prizes passed on the opportunity and elected instead to continue to reflect the natural order and position of strength they remained in.

Any man who has gotten some pussy or regular pussy knows that its much to do about nothing after you nut and have a moment of clarity (unless) its with someone you care about and have a mutual bond with who respects you for the way you conduct your life as a man..

So, cackling on and on about who does and doesn't get pussy when just about every man on this planet has gotten some and knows random encounters are proverbial shots (nuts) in the dark is quite the childish take on this matter.

There's a whole other world out there and range of being a man but you're not going to discover that chasing behind the skirts of women who believe you to be a desperate dog in heat ... whom are probably giving up the ass to every dude who yields himself to them.

You will only resign yourself to cackling on and on about 'no pussy gettin men' who are probably dicking down your girl while you're on here boasting and not giving her attention...
:chalkup:

After-all, a true woman and one you want to spend your time, energy, and resources with is one who understands and respects you for having molded yourself w.r.t to being a good man... A woman who values a bond and a relationship with a man and understands that her life is that much more illuminated as is yours when you walk through life together.

The west was under a dense fog for a while with the prominence of third wave feminism and flippant relationships.

Some men opted out. Don't see the issue here.

"Better to live on a corner of the roof than share a house with a quarrelsome wife."
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    #23850188 - 11/19/16 11:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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well, I hope that crosses over to same sex relationships.:grin:




Gays are idiots for wanting marriage legalised... they can have it.
BTW, lesbian relationships hardly last compared to gay mens'... women always want to end shit for various reasons. In straight marriages, women file for over 80% of all divorces... yet they are the ones pressuring men into marriage in the first place.


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    #23850215 - 11/19/16 11:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've also read marriage is beneficial for taxes. Married people make on average more money. Single people even in long term relationships still work more holidays while married people are given them off. As they have a family.


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    #23850218 - 11/19/16 11:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yep..I've known some people to get married just for benefits.


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    #23850220 - 11/19/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Gays are idiots for wanting marriage legalised... they can have it.
BTW, lesbian relationships hardly last compared to gay mens'... women always want to end shit for various reasons. In straight marriages, women file for over 80% of all divorces... yet they are the ones pressuring men into marriage in the first place.




Could those statistics possibly be due to the fact that women have gotten fed up by what happens in a typical marriage? (And it's not over 80% btw, it's more like 65% of divorces are initiated by women).

I mean really, in a traditional marriage, the man usually gets taken care of while the woman does all the household and cleaning chores, and she is saddled with most of the responsibilities with the children.

I've found this to be common even among households where both couples work full-time, for some reason the household chores and child raising duties ultimately fall on the responsibility of the woman. That's probably one huge reason men live longer due to being married.

Apparently women report less satisfaction than men while being married. I wouldn't initiate divorce either if I had all the perks of a domestic servant.


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    #23850236 - 11/20/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Every single older woman I know loves taking care of the kids. Something seems to have changed womens' mindsets in the past couple generations when it comes to raising children. No proof of that of course, but it's a pretty consistent observation I've noticed :shrug:


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    #23850238 - 11/20/16 12:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It just makes sense. If your already going to stay together might as well get the benefits. I don't really understand people that wouldn't. Out of spite or something?

It makes sense to take advantage of the benefits.

Women are more in tune for child rearing it's biological. House chores are more of what men and women are supposed to do. Men fix things if they're broken. More of a societal thing which are far more pronounced but seem to be universal no matter where on earth you go.

I haven't met many women that can fix there car. Shit one girl I dated didn't even know how a pair of jumper cables work.


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    #23850240 - 11/20/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Every single older woman I know loves taking care of the kids. Something seems to have changed womens' mindsets in the past couple generations when it comes to raising children. No proof of that of course, but it's a pretty consistent observation I've noticed :shrug:




Women in previous, older generations prior to the 1970's had the option to stay home and take care of the children more often. I don't think there's anything wrong with women demanding men do more to partake in the raising of their children, especially seeing as how now most modern couples both work to support a household.


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    #23850241 - 11/20/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Marriage has always been some sort of legal joke






I'm not married, but I am common law. I never want to get married and probably never will, I think it is a useless act, however, I am still fucked if me and my current partner are to break up. Being common law is nearly identical to being married from what I understand (atleast here in Canada it is )


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    #23850245 - 11/20/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Women are more in tune for child rearing it's biological. House chores are more of what men and women are supposed to do. Men fix things if they're broken. More of a societal thing which are far more pronounced but seem to be universal no matter where on earth you go.

I haven't met many women that can fix there car. Shit one girl I dated didn't even know how a pair of jumper cables work.




All that is social programming of course, women don't know how to fix their cars because that's the sort of stuff that men learn as young boys from their dads while working together in the garage with him. The father passes down everything that he learns to his son, and this is typically how most men learn how to change a tire or fix a toilet or change the oil.

Same with throwing a football or shooting a gun, those are the kind of things that sons learn to do with their fathers.


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I've also read marriage is beneficial for taxes. Married people make on average more money. Single people even in long term relationships still work more holidays while married people are given them off. As they have a family.




There's also insurance and medical reasons. When your partner is in the ICU on death's door the fact they are your wife or husband, your FAMILY, means the hospital cannot deny your visitation rights.

These are the perks of marriage vs normal long term relationships.


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    #23850252 - 11/20/16 12:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Didn't imply there was anything wrong with that. Just something I noticed. Should all be balanced out though if that's the case. Those women should start learning how to do more of the typical chores men tend to do also.


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Women are more in tune for child rearing it's biological. House chores are more of what men and women are supposed to do. Men fix things if they're broken. More of a societal thing which are far more pronounced but seem to be universal no matter where on earth you go.

I haven't met many women that can fix there car. Shit one girl I dated didn't even know how a pair of jumper cables work.




All that is social programming of course, women don't know how to fix their cars because that's the sort of stuff that men learn as young boys from their dads while working together in the garage with him. The father passes down everything that he learns to his son, and this is typically how most men learn how to change a tire or fix a toilet or change the oil.

Same with throwing a football or shooting a gun, those are the kind of things that sons learn to do with their fathers.




Yep women don't get taught much of real value. House chores are simple and easily accomplished. First jobs you get even when you start getting your first paying jobs. Cleaning. Anyone can do it.

Just like whenever they get something that has to be put together. The instructions are right there but I end up doing it.

She was about to just sell her car. Dude your batteries just dead. It baffled me how do you not know something this simple.

Not saying I agree with it but know both sexes that can or can't do either or can do things that I know better than me.

Societal conditioning is definitely the main factor.


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    #23850257 - 11/20/16 12:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Didn't imply there was anything wrong with that. Just something I noticed. Should all be balanced out though if that's the case. Those women should start learning how to do more of the typical chores men tend to do also.




I absolutely agree, I think a lot of women would love to learn how to change the oil on your car, or how to fix a leaky sink. I often wish I grew up with somebody who could have taught me those things, because then I could save money by being more self-sustaining and self-reliant.

Honestly though even my dad doesn't know how to do those things, he's more of the absent-minded professor type, not the handyman type.

Not only that, but I think when you learn to do things like taking apart car engines and building cabinets and things like that when you're young, your brain becomes naturally better at doing engineering and construction and building things of that nature.


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    #23850266 - 11/20/16 12:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Agreed with both posts.


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    #23850270 - 11/20/16 12:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Didn't imply there was anything wrong with that. Just something I noticed. Should all be balanced out though if that's the case. Those women should start learning how to do more of the typical chores men tend to do also.




I absolutely agree, I think a lot of women would love to learn how to change the oil on your car, or how to fix a leaky sink. I often wish I grew up with somebody who could have taught me those things, because then I could save money by being more self-sustaining and self-reliant.

Honestly though even my dad doesn't know how to do those things, he's more of the absent-minded professor type, not the handyman type.

Not only that, but I think when you learn to do things like taking apart car engines and building cabinets and things like that when you're young, your brain becomes naturally better at doing engineering and construction and building things of that nature.




See I've asked men, family and friends, to teach me how to do simple things on my car and fix stuff (plumbing, decking, ect.) and while they miight act like they want to they usually just come in and fucking do it themselves and act irritated or aloof when I ask them questions or try to get a better look at what they're doing.

It's annoying. :bored: But I've instead blundered my way through learning this stuff on my own. I've had to teach myself most of my life skills come to think of it... It may have something to do with me being a slow learner and people having no patience but I do find that men tend to be more doers. They often feel it's not their responsibility to teach unless it is.


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    #23850276 - 11/20/16 12:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Now a days with the Internet and YouTube you can really learn to do anything.


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    #23850278 - 11/20/16 12:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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See I've asked men, family and friends, to teach me how to do simple things on my car and fix stuff (plumbing, decking, ect.) and while they miight act like they want to they usually just come in and fucking do it themselves and act irritated or aloof when I ask them questions or try to get a better look at what they're doing.

It's annoying. :bored: But I've instead blundered my way through learning this stuff on my own. I've had to teach myself most of my life skills come to think of it... It may have something to do with me being a slow learner and people having no patience but I do find that men tend to be more doers. They often feel it's not their responsibility to teach unless it is.




Aww, that sucks that they didn't take you seriously and viewed you as a nuisance.

Come to think of it I taught myself most of my life skills too. Probably explains why I still can't sew, change a tire, or change my oil properly. :lol: But I did at least teach myself how to cook and how to operate a handgun and how to do laundry.

Enjoywho is right, you really can learn to do just about anything with YouTube and the internet now.


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    #23850282 - 11/20/16 12:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How I learned to do a lot of things especially in basic car maintenance. My dad taught me certain things but a lot of cars are different than the ones I was taught on.


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    #23850284 - 11/20/16 12:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

True but I'm what the first world educational institution calls "learning disabled" and doing shit from youtube means I'm probably going to break it. I'd rather have someone there watching me and guiding me through step by step. The only thing that's saved me in winging it is having a decent understanding of mechanics and physics. Which came about fromm breaking things :lol:

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Come to think of it I taught myself most of my life skills too. Probably explains why I still can't sew, change a tire, or change my oil properly. :lol: But I did at least teach myself how to cook and how to operate a handgun and how to do laundry.

Enjoywho is right, you really can learn to do just about anything with YouTube and the internet now.





Aye, funny enough I took home ec and blundered my way through there too. I learned how to clean by the teacher getting really upset at how I cleaned (come to find out moving cookie crumbs from one spot to another isn't cleaning.) and I messed up on my sewing project so bad I had to start over twice and the teacher ended up giving me an F for it. Apparently my older brother eating my potato baby was the last straw. Only class I ever failed in grade school :lol:


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    #23850285 - 11/20/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

But on the other hand I had to teach myself to do laundry and upkeep a proper home. I did my fair of chores but I mostly got stuck doing yard work and generally more boy centric jobs.


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    #23850288 - 11/20/16 12:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Practice makes perfect. I think that's why alot of people end up sticking to the same things they know how to do as an adult, especially when they have someone to do the other stuff for them.


It's not been easy but I'm keenly aware that I would not be so self reliant if I didn't have to.


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    #23850289 - 11/20/16 12:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Oh absolutely.


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    #23850302 - 11/20/16 01:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Aye, funny enough I took home ec and blundered my way through there too. I learned how to clean by the teacher getting really upset at how I cleaned (come to find out moving cookie crumbs from one spot to another isn't cleaning.) and I messed up on my sewing project so bad I had to start over twice and the teacher ended up giving me an F for it. Apparently my older brother eating my potato baby was the last straw. Only class I ever failed in grade school :lol:




Is that why your name is Cookie Crumbs? :lol:

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But on the other hand I had to teach myself to do laundry and upkeep a proper home. I did my fair of chores but I mostly got stuck doing yard work and generally more boy centric jobs.




So weird how we're taught different chores simply based on our gender as little children.


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    #23850323 - 11/20/16 01:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Aye, funny enough I took home ec and blundered my way through there too. I learned how to clean by the teacher getting really upset at how I cleaned (come to find out moving cookie crumbs from one spot to another isn't cleaning.) and I messed up on my sewing project so bad I had to start over twice and the teacher ended up giving me an F for it. Apparently my older brother eating my potato baby was the last straw. Only class I ever failed in grade school :lol:




Is that why your name is Cookie Crumbs? :lol:

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But on the other hand I had to teach myself to do laundry and upkeep a proper home. I did my fair of chores but I mostly got stuck doing yard work and generally more boy centric jobs.




So weird how we're taught different chores simply based on our gender as little children.



And herein lies some of the problems in society, a perpetuation of the same ideals etc... for no reason other than the fear of doing something different.
Like perpetuating the ignorance of hoodlum culture (white or people of color, and it is misogynistic mostly), or male and female roles that perpetuate what one should or shouldn't do, ways to be or shouldn't be, ways to act or shouldn't act, how one talks/speaks/walks etc...
People saying "the pussification of men" and BS like that. "They're making all our boys/young men into pansies", stfu!
People are realizing that all those alpha and beta roles are changing with the progress of computers, intelligence, science, and it scares them


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    #23850328 - 11/20/16 01:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't see what computers have to do with anything. If a young male can't do basic maintenance on a car I will roll my eyes. Or know the difference between screwdrivers, the use and application of basic tools. How to read a tape. Etc.


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    #23850330 - 11/20/16 01:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't see what computers have to do with anything.




I think he's talking about how the roles of men have changed largely as advancements in society have become more and more intellectual.

Before in early human history it used to be that we needed dominant and aggressive males for the human species to survive, but in today's world we need civilized and cordial human beings for advancement.

It's funny how traditional masculinity is completely anti-intellectual in nature, and I think tyrannicalrex is saying we need to challenge this notion because this ultimately hurts men in the long run.


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    #23850332 - 11/20/16 01:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ya I was reading about how women like masculine men to put the seed in. Then more of your androgynous men for rearing there child. Maybe that's why it seems like all the girls I meet my age around this town are single mothers with no baby daddy in site. :lol:


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    #23850340 - 11/20/16 02:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't see what computers have to do with anything.




I think he's talking about how the roles of men have changed largely as advancements in society have become more and more intellectual.

Before in early human history it used to be that we needed dominant and aggressive males for the human species to survive, but in today's world we need civilized and cordial human beings for advancement.

It's funny how traditional masculinity is completely anti-intellectual in nature, and I think tyrannicalrex is saying we need to challenge this notion because this ultimately hurts men in the long run.



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Could those statistics possibly be due to the fact that women have gotten fed up by what happens in a typical marriage? (And it's not over 80% btw, it's more like 65% of divorces are initiated by women).

I mean really, in a traditional marriage, the man usually gets taken care of while the woman does all the household and cleaning chores, and she is saddled with most of the responsibilities with the children.

I've found this to be common even among households where both couples work full-time, for some reason the household chores and child raising duties ultimately fall on the responsibility of the woman. That's probably one huge reason men live longer due to being married.

Apparently women report less satisfaction than men while being married. I wouldn't initiate divorce either if I had all the perks of a domestic servant.




I think you have some things backwards and misunderstand.

#1 : Men don't live longer than women.
In the U.S., life expectancy at birth is about 79 years for women and about 72 years for men.
A good portion of this skew reflects the stress than men take on that women never see, hear of, or have to go through. Also the psychological stress than women cause by not provide a nurturing haven away from the world. Men don't want to go out and fight like dogs in the world only to come home and feel they have to compete with their wife. No man wants that shit.

Further, women are biologically capable of coping with more stress due to estrogen.
Testosterone wreaks havoc on the body .. It's what men function on when stressed.

Women are more likely to be unhappy with themselves and marriage over time for reasons that have nothing to do with men and moreso with their biological predispositions. As I recall, studies and data support this. A man has the burden of knowing at the end of the day, no matter what a women says or what silly social lie is perpetuated that there is an expectation that they ensure bring home the resources necessary to care for the family.
Lets see what a quick google renders on that subject :
http://www.today.com/health/household-chores-not-reason-why-many-marriages-split-after-all-t101239

So, if a man has the burden (and it truly is a burden) to know they have to go out into society and fight for peanuts to support their family, is it not fair that a woman take on an equally challenging and important role in the family? Do you think men enjoy having to wake up everyday going to a job they don't like going to in order to support their families? Do you think that is some badge of honor we wear to feel like we've accomplished something and are valued? No, were valued when we have a family and a wife to come home to who will respect and honor our hard work to put them first and foremost in our lives. A job is just a means to sustain that... Women by and large get convinced that a job is something beyond just a paycheck. As a result, it serves as a wedge between the connection that they develop with men. 'I got my own resources and independence.. i don't need a man'.. What's a man to do w/ that? Were looking for a nurturing haven.. We haven't forgotten that.

Further, what's the big hangup with household chores? Don't we have things like dishwashers, dryers, washing machines, roombas ? It always amazes me when people bitch about something that takes 10min to do. Most men have lived on their own for some time in America. We clean, do laundry, cook.. It's not that serious and can actually be therapeutic .

Society seemingly convinced women by and large to abandon more traditional roles to get out in the work place by and large and compete with men for resources. No one's raising, nurturing or looking out for the kids anymore and thus we have a whole generation of delusional brats.  Getting out in the workplace competing for resources with your husband isn't all its cracked up to be and households are pulling in far less effective income than what was occurring back in the day. Day-care is very expensive. Taxes on dull income is nothing to sneeze at and all sorts of things got mixed up in the process.

So, in the end, lots was lost. Somethings were gained. This isn't a male/female battle.
It's more about : How do we come together and live beautiful lives together.

Very crafty people have figured out how to break that up for profit while many dumb people fell for it. It's why the west is the the belly of a decline.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #23850451 - 11/20/16 04:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Aye, funny enough I took home ec and blundered my way through there too. I learned how to clean by the teacher getting really upset at how I cleaned (come to find out moving cookie crumbs from one spot to another isn't cleaning.) and I messed up on my sewing project so bad I had to start over twice and the teacher ended up giving me an F for it. Apparently my older brother eating my potato baby was the last straw. Only class I ever failed in grade school :lol:




Is that why your name is Cookie Crumbs? :lol:

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But on the other hand I had to teach myself to do laundry and upkeep a proper home. I did my fair of chores but I mostly got stuck doing yard work and generally more boy centric jobs.




So weird how we're taught different chores simply based on our gender as little children.



And herein lies some of the problems in society, a perpetuation of the same ideals etc... for no reason other than the fear of doing something different.
Like perpetuating the ignorance of hoodlum culture (white or people of color, and it is misogynistic mostly), or male and female roles that perpetuate what one should or shouldn't do, ways to be or shouldn't be, ways to act or shouldn't act, how one talks/speaks/walks etc...
People saying "the pussification of men" and BS like that. "They're making all our boys/young men into pansies", stfu!
People are realizing that all those alpha and beta roles are changing with the progress of computers, intelligence, science, and it scares them




Interestingly I don't subscribe to the alpha beta false dichotomy, am a millennial who is quite liberal, grew up during the fundamental development of the internet, broad proliferation of computer usage, am  quite intelligent, highly degreed, am versed in science. I believe men and women are equal and always have been. Equal but different and differences should be celebrated. That being said, I can quite clearly point out very informed and intelligent coverage of the movement that with one hand aimed to elevate women but with the other hand undermined men.. Most intelligent people actually can :

http://www.npr.org/2013/02/12/171806323/boys-are-at-the-back-of-the-class
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/boys-gender-equity-crisis/

Zero-tolerance for male behavior began during the rise of third wave feminism. It stunted the development of a lot of boys and the results are easily viewed now that they have grown into young adults. Very intelligent people (both women and men) were sounding the alarm on this but were ignored in favor of group think populism and main-steam idiocy.

The problem with societies has most often been the idiots who drown out reasoned discourse with inane ideas typically masked under the veil of (progress). Telling young boys it was bad to behave in a manner natural to them and causing them to subdue expressions while telling young women they can do and be anything including everything that a man is created a very toxic culture and environment in this country. It seems to be reversing as people have had enough of that flawed experiment. The only question is how ugly the reversal back to normalcy will be. The tone of it lies in the hands of the special snowflakes that society raised while they were off being clowns about gender roles and possibilities.

Suffice to say, nature will always win out as it has for all of history.
I think a lot of people think they are intelligent and informed on a matter that they have the least of all knowledge about which is why they have such hardline stances on toxic and destructive social norms masked as progress.


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    #23850464 - 11/20/16 04:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I was born in 91. Does that make me a millennial? I'm not sure when the start date for that is but I'd be really offended if someone called me a millennial. I've talked with quite a few friends one was the person who said that.

Huh. Never really thought about it. Millenials are lazy and can't build dick. That's not how I was raised. I helped build are cabin foundation to roofing and run a business from running fliers door to door to doing 14k jobs in 2 days. My dad decided to become a crackhead and threw everything we built together away but that's neither here nor there. I do hold a resentment about it. We made it. Ugh.


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    #23850470 - 11/20/16 04:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't see what computers have to do with anything.




I think he's talking about how the roles of men have changed largely as advancements in society have become more and more intellectual.

Before in early human history it used to be that we needed dominant and aggressive males for the human species to survive, but in today's world we need civilized and cordial human beings for advancement.

It's funny how traditional masculinity is completely anti-intellectual in nature, and I think tyrannicalrex is saying we need to challenge this notion because this ultimately hurts men in the long run.




Males have natures and predispositions.
Females have natures and predispositions.
There are outliers among males and females who don't fall under observed norms.

Both observed norms and outliers are fine and should be accepted. By the early 2000s, this was understood and embraced. Somehow this got turned into a cluster-fuck of confusion disorder and bashing of norms  by the mid 2000s. The roles of males haven't changed all that much. The expectation is still there if conditions present themselves.

Women are very good at saying what they want which is one thing but in the heat of the moment switching to something else.. A perfect example is when a woman declares she wants a compassionate understanding and non-dominant man but then goes and calls him a pussy whose she's tired of while jumping off to a dominant man who reminds her of what it is to be a woman.

With prosperity or the illusion of prosperity people went on to create new problems that didn't exist before and that's just human nature.

Women still value dominant and aggressive males and testosterone predisposes males naturally towards it just as estrogen predisposes women to nurture. Shoot yourself full of some testosterone and see how it magically changes your perception and predisposition? The social joke was that you can somehow override these predisposition with social engineering. You can only subdue them and nature eventually wins out.

civilized and cordial human beings for advancement are products of prosperity and are a luxury. With changing economic realities, many will see how quickly these social priorities can change.


Traditional masculinity is quite intellectual. Looking around at all of the constructions, technology, and science developed under it is a clear demonstration of that fact.

What is damaging is when its not nurtured towards harmonious ends which is the role of women in a society. Guess what happens when no ones nurturing or guiding the world's offspring.. You get the silly ass confused world we have right now.

Yet it is par for the course to ignore all of man's contributions to the world that every uses on a day to day basis, call male behavior intellectual, and act as though thousands of years of progress to this point occurred to Tyranical knuckle draggers.

We can build an amazing world together as male/female or we can destroy it.
Pitting women against men is a divisive and destructive anti-intellectual theme that permeated society for nothing more than to create profit from chaos and confusion.

If a true battle were to occur between the sexes w/o leniancy, one only need look at the tragic history of the human species for what happens when men war with each other. If women ever thought they were going to win that battle, the social psyche of women must have really gotten twisted.

So, lets live together in harmony and embrace our differences instead of being ass-clowns about them.


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    #23850481 - 11/20/16 04:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I was born in 91. Does that make me a millennial? I'm not sure when the start date for that is but I'd be really offended if someone called me a millennial. I've talked with quite a few friends one was the person who said that.

Huh. Never really thought about it. Millenials are lazy and can't build dick. That's not how I was raised. I helped build are cabin foundation to roofing and run a business from running fliers door to door to doing 14k jobs in 2 days. My dad decided to become a crackhead and threw everything we built together away but that's neither here nor there. I do hold a resentment about it. We made it. Ugh.




Yep. A generation is about 20- 30 years. Millennials range from
1980s as starting birth years and ending birth years ranging from the mid-1990s to early 2000s... could even stretch this to 2010 if you applied a 30 year range.

A generation used to span 30 years as society didn't move so fast. Society is so dynamic now that a generation can almost be split in half. So, i'd say there are two slices of millenials. The older and the younger half.

The older half centered around the 80s and early 90s was born into an environment in which we had to fight and establish our generation beyond the previous generation. We grew up while the internet was forming. We embraced non-pc beliefs and attitudes. Memes, trolling, netspeak.. Fact checking using online resources.. Coming together racially.. people like Dave Chapelle .. the rebels.. the social pioneering all got started and cemented in this first half. The 2nd half arrived on the scene under ideal conditions and got spoiled. Having no real serious battles to wage, they started to reinvent and overdramatize problems... What if I want to wear a skirt and go into a girl's bathroom and go pee-pee.. You don't have the right to say something that offends me.. Stupid shit like that.

The older millennials created a meme for this when it got started : '1st world problems' meme

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=First%20World%20Problems

We were on top of social movements and already had a meme for when these snowflakes began getting groomed.

What has resulted as of 2016 is nothing short of breathtaking. These little fuckers have singly handedly undone much of what progress was made by the older millennials :  reignited racial tensions, reversed liberal freedom of speech in which we (older millenials) would say whatever the hell was on your mind no matter if it offends someone (especially if it offends someone), confused the shit out of people w/ respect to gender roles and norms, became sensitive snowflakes.. etc etc.

The 80/90s portion of the millennial group were the rebels who had to fight to establish new footing. We did so by breaking down barriers constructively and embracing those on the other side. If Dave Chappelle were to try his meteoric rise in today's society, he'd never see the light of day. You see the difference?

So yeah, the country is in a really fucked up and ass backwards place. I was shocked when someone showed me that the South Park episode about safe spaces was an actual reality.

It went from 100 to 0 real quick :


The more I researched it, I began to put two and two together as to how this shit show got started. I was worried for a while up until this seemingly 360* turn that occurred as of this election.

I have high hopes that the older portion of the millennial generation is going to step up into prominent leadership roles in this country and wrestle this sinking ship back from the ongoing disaster being created by the baby boomer generation while also being thrown into the gutter by the younger half of the millennial generation.

You'd think these little fuckers would know better but then again, they didn't grow up during the generational transition and they didn't work to create the fundamental sea change that they were just born into...

No nurturing family unit to support them and left to the devices of our flawed societal structures, many of them went off the deep end and turned into the very batshit hypercritical social conservatives they claim to hate.

It's truly a beauty when you see how this shit show comes full circle in cycles and how various seeds are sown over time. It's also scary as shit when you come to realize that only a small minority are aware of this clown show, many aren't aware and are seemingly just droning along like lemmings to the drumbeat, and there are many lunatics who believe they are somehow the victims of some grand injustice (a delusion that is of their own making) and a self-manifested one that rose from being spoiled rotten.

But hey, there's nothing like grand economic recessions/depressions to remind people of what's really important.. Which is why, given the fragile social fabric that presently persists, the reckoning has been delayed so long.

Some dank times ahead fam ..
(taping into the early 90s speak :
If these p*****s think these are hard times, these f****ts are really going to be trippin' out once things get real)

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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: phio]
    #23850532 - 11/20/16 05:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

"The older half centered around the 80s and early 90s was born into an environment in which we had to fight and establish our generation beyond the previous generation. We grew up while the internet was forming. We embraced non-pc beliefs and attitudes. Memes, trolling, netspeak.. Fact checking using online resources.. Coming together racially.. people like Dave Chapelle .. the rebels.. the social pioneering all got started and cemented in this first half. The 2nd half arrived on the scene under ideal conditions and got spoiled. Having no real serious battles to wage, they started to reinvent and overdramatize problems... What if I want to wear a skirt and go into a girl's bathroom and go pee-pee.. You don't have the right to say something that offends me.. Stupid shit like that."

Huh agreed. I can't really argue with any of that well put. Hell Dave Chappelle is one of my favorite comedians I even saw him live in Seattle :lol:


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    #23850536 - 11/20/16 05:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Gays are idiots for wanting marriage legalised... they can have it.
BTW, lesbian relationships hardly last compared to gay mens'... women always want to end shit for various reasons. In straight marriages, women file for over 80% of all divorces... yet they are the ones pressuring men into marriage in the first place.




Could those statistics possibly be due to the fact that women have gotten fed up by what happens in a typical marriage? (And it's not over 80% btw, it's more like 65% of divorces are initiated by women).

I mean really, in a traditional marriage, the man usually gets taken care of while the woman does all the household and cleaning chores, and she is saddled with most of the responsibilities with the children.

I've found this to be common even among households where both couples work full-time, for some reason the household chores and child raising duties ultimately fall on the responsibility of the woman. That's probably one huge reason men live longer due to being married.

Apparently women report less satisfaction than men while being married. I wouldn't initiate divorce either if I had all the perks of a domestic servant.



What do you think the man of the house is doing while the woman stays home and cooks and cleans?


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    #23850552 - 11/20/16 06:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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I don't see what computers have to do with anything.




I think he's talking about how the roles of men have changed largely as advancements in society have become more and more intellectual.

Before in early human history it used to be that we needed dominant and aggressive males for the human species to survive, but in today's world we need civilized and cordial human beings for advancement.

It's funny how traditional masculinity is completely anti-intellectual in nature, and I think tyrannicalrex is saying we need to challenge this notion because this ultimately hurts men in the long run.




Males have natures and predispositions.
Females have natures and predispositions.
There are outliers among males and females who don't fall under observed norms.

Both observed norms and outliers are fine and should be accepted. By the early 2000s, this was understood and embraced. Somehow this got turned into a cluster-fuck of confusion disorder and bashing of norms  by the mid 2000s. The roles of males haven't changed all that much. The expectation is still there if conditions present themselves.

Women are very good at saying what they want which is one thing but in the heat of the moment switching to something else.. A perfect example is when a woman declares she wants a compassionate understanding and non-dominant man but then goes and calls him a pussy whose she's tired of while jumping off to a dominant man who reminds her of what it is to be a woman.

With prosperity or the illusion of prosperity people went on to create new problems that didn't exist before and that's just human nature.

Women still value dominant and aggressive males and testosterone predisposes males naturally towards it just as estrogen predisposes women to nurture. Shoot yourself full of some testosterone and see how it magically changes your perception and predisposition? The social joke was that you can somehow override these predisposition with social engineering. You can only subdue them and nature eventually wins out.

civilized and cordial human beings for advancement are products of prosperity and are a luxury. With changing economic realities, many will see how quickly these social priorities can change.


Traditional masculinity is quite intellectual. Looking around at all of the constructions, technology, and science developed under it is a clear demonstration of that fact.

What is damaging is when its not nurtured towards harmonious ends which is the role of women in a society. Guess what happens when no ones nurturing or guiding the world's offspring.. You get the silly ass confused world we have right now.

Yet it is par for the course to ignore all of man's contributions to the world that every uses on a day to day basis, call male behavior intellectual, and act as though thousands of years of progress to this point occurred to Tyranical knuckle draggers.

We can build an amazing world together as male/female or we can destroy it.
Pitting women against men is a divisive and destructive anti-intellectual theme that permeated society for nothing more than to create profit from chaos and confusion.

If a true battle were to occur between the sexes w/o leniancy, one only need look at the tragic history of the human species for what happens when men war with each other. If women ever thought they were going to win that battle, the social psyche of women must have really gotten twisted.

So, lets live together in harmony and embrace our differences instead of being ass-clowns about them.




Fucking clap man. There's no clap emotion but very well put. The entire point of a partnership isn't because we can both do the same things equally well. It's for the fact that we can compliment each other and create harmony.

A lot of things that I do aren't specifically for me. I like to build things. I like to talk to people. When I'm not doing those things I drink a lot, do drugs, and destroy myself with negative thinking.

Men are problem solvers. It's why video games are so popular with males typically. You do a to get b to solve treasure.

I despise women that take the route of snubbing you for making a mistake but won't tell you. They make you roll around in your head. I know some things wrong. Than you get to fighting about shit that wasn't ever that big of a deal to begin with. But I'm not a mind reader and now I'm getting upset and it's damn near impossible to make me mad. But I'm stubborn as fuck.

I also liked "What is damaging is when its not nurtured towards harmonious ends which is the role of women in a society."

I can't agree more. I've dated my fair share of girls. The ones that I truly cared about and still reminisce about at times are the ones that tethered me to reality.

They made me care about working hard not just for the sake of money is life. I actually refer to them as my future maybe wives. But we're all young and had our own things to do in life. I'm still good friends with all of them.

I feel out of harmony. I'm chaotic in nature. Growing up in chaos has made me chaotic. I create chaos out of nothing. I suddenly don't feel like doing it around certain good women. I still will try but they'll slap me straight. "shut the fuck up your being a bitch,  I love ya stop being so dramatic"

"ya your right. Let's go eat I'm starving" :lol:



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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23850579 - 11/20/16 06:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Didn't imply there was anything wrong with that. Just something I noticed. Should all be balanced out though if that's the case. Those women should start learning how to do more of the typical chores men tend to do also.




I absolutely agree, I think a lot of women would love to learn how to change the oil on your car, or how to fix a leaky sink. I often wish I grew up with somebody who could have taught me those things, because then I could save money by being more self-sustaining and self-reliant.

Honestly though even my dad doesn't know how to do those things, he's more of the absent-minded professor type, not the handyman type.

Not only that, but I think when you learn to do things like taking apart car engines and building cabinets and things like that when you're young, your brain becomes naturally better at doing engineering and construction and building things of that nature.




It's not just the father though.  There is definitely a brotherhood among men where that sort of secret knowledge is passed around.  Don't feel too bad because there are alot of men who are not in on it either.  It's like the freemasons only instead of sucking an elder's cock to get your foot in the door you have to spend years getting your hands burnt beaten and crusty, bathing in dirty oil, being constantly reminded how useless you are, learning endlessly redundant jargon, and doing mindless repetitive physical labor for long hours every day year after year.


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    #23850588 - 11/20/16 06:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I always make sure to have good friends that I obviously enjoy being around but have viable skills. Always have a mechanic friend, computer friend, carpenter friend, etc.

I can do the basics and more intermediate to advanced in certain areas but the key is to have them. Friend with a truck always good for moving. Generally they'll help you if ya got a case a beer and order a pizza. Plus you'll learn how to do it and kick it with a good friend. A chore turns into a good time with a buddy.

Agreed moonrockmushy :thumbup:


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    #23850598 - 11/20/16 06:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I mean you can really on do so much on your own.  The real skill in being a man is learning to bullshit your way into a more skilled man's good graces so he will point out the shortcuts and pitfalls to his trade learned over many generations of trial and error.


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    #23850617 - 11/20/16 06:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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Didn't imply there was anything wrong with that. Just something I noticed. Should all be balanced out though if that's the case. Those women should start learning how to do more of the typical chores men tend to do also.




I absolutely agree, I think a lot of women would love to learn how to change the oil on your car, or how to fix a leaky sink. I often wish I grew up with somebody who could have taught me those things, because then I could save money by being more self-sustaining and self-reliant.

Honestly though even my dad doesn't know how to do those things, he's more of the absent-minded professor type, not the handyman type.

Not only that, but I think when you learn to do things like taking apart car engines and building cabinets and things like that when you're young, your brain becomes naturally better at doing engineering and construction and building things of that nature.




It's not just the father though.  There is definitely a brotherhood among men where that sort of secret knowledge is passed around.  Don't feel too bad because there are alot of men who are not in on it either.  It's like the freemasons only instead of sucking an elder's cock to get your foot in the door you have to spend years getting your hands burnt beaten and crusty, bathing in dirty oil, being constantly reminded how useless you are, learning endlessly redundant jargon, and doing mindless repetitive physical labor for long hours every day year after year.




It was fashionable for some time to promote and put the bad examples of men to rise and it became fashionable for women to believe that their ideal and powerful form came via modeling themselves after the worst attributes of such men...

The crazed and boastful alpha male became reflected in the super charged and 'empowered' modern woman.

In the backdrop, the brotherhood and sisterhoods continued which maintained the tried and true methods/means by which one maintains being a model human being in harmony with the the world.

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    #23850623 - 11/20/16 07:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I absolutely agree, I think a lot of women would love to learn how to change the oil on your car, or how to fix a leaky sink. I often wish I grew up with somebody who could have taught me those things, because then I could save money by being more self-sustaining and self-reliant. 





the only thing stopping you is you. is it because you're afraid you'll fuck
something up? maybe you're afraid you'll get dirty, well I can assure that
both of those things will happen if you work on a car so you should give up


unless you really want to learn, if you're sincere. get a car and a book and
some tools and start learning, if you dont then you'll always be the spoiled
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    #23850628 - 11/20/16 07:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I absolutely agree, I think a lot of women would love to learn how to change the oil on your car, or how to fix a leaky sink. I often wish I grew up with somebody who could have taught me those things, because then I could save money by being more self-sustaining and self-reliant. 





the only thing stopping you is you. is it because you're afraid you'll fuck
something up? maybe you're afraid you'll get dirty, well I can assure that
both of those things will happen if you work on a car so you should give up


unless you really want to learn, if you're sincere. get a car and a book and
some tools and start learning, if you dont then you'll always be the spoiled
little rich girl




Yep. If men decided to walk off and do their own thing, women would die off very quickly.

Men have become the labour force and slaves of the world. I think it's time to fight for our rights or walk off the plantation.


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    #23850640 - 11/20/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah I mean you can really on do so much on your own.  The real skill in being a man is learning to bullshit your way into a more skilled man's good graces so he will point out the shortcuts and pitfalls to his trade learned over many generations of trial and error.





I spent the summer in Montana. Working with a good buddy from high school and his dad. They buy and remodel houses. I can now do tile, roofing, siding, concrete, painting, the list goes on and on.

I did a lot of bitch work mostly cleaning but they taught me how to use a ton of tools, lots of heavy lifting and physical labor.

Tile saw, skill saw, chop saw, grinder, list goes on. I already knew how to operate a lot of them but I'm always quick to ask questions or ask for a quick demonstration. As I learn fast by watching and repeating. One time is usually enough. Ah I get it alright.

I got called a dumbass quite a few times and blah blah blah but if your willing to watch and learn you will learn over time. I basically got a journeyman apprenticeship out of it and got to kick it with one of my best friends I hadn't seen in years. A ton of skills to add to my resume.


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    #23850643 - 11/20/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
I absolutely agree, I think a lot of women would love to learn how to change the oil on your car, or how to fix a leaky sink. I often wish I grew up with somebody who could have taught me those things, because then I could save money by being more self-sustaining and self-reliant. 





the only thing stopping you is you. is it because you're afraid you'll fuck
something up? maybe you're afraid you'll get dirty, well I can assure that
both of those things will happen if you work on a car so you should give up


unless you really want to learn, if you're sincere. get a car and a book and
some tools and start learning, if you dont then you'll always be the spoiled
little rich girl




I mean we all need a little help sometimes, but it's true you can get the basics out of manuals.  Initiative is definitely crucial, and there is a huge difference between asking someone to show you how to change oil and coming up to them with a problem you have encountered in the course of changing your oil.

Most manly man are really bad teachers, really cagey, but excellent problem solvers.  You've got to be able to learn by watching and actually show in interest in asking specific questions to pry the knowledge out.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: phio] * 1
    #23850658 - 11/20/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

humans are not meant to be alone. solitary confinement is torture , but how many single males spend 80 percent of their time alone in an apartment room about the size of a decent prison cell?

loneliness wreaks havoc on mental and physical health. not only that , we need not just physical company but genuine consistent affection and emotional connection.

we need to feel we are not alone in life , someone cares about us, someone is there for us when we need them , we need someone to talk to , you confide in, to encourage us when we feel hopeless and congratulate us and share in our happiness when we succeed.


we need to feel needed.  we need massages when we are sore and warm cuddles on cold nights. we need someone to care for us when we are sick and injured. we need a friendly smile to come home to after a hard day at work.

I need my wife on so many levels and all the casual sex in the world wouldn't fill more than 1% of the needs she fulfills and what she does for me.

I think it's all this and more that explains why married men are happier and healthier. 

loneliness causes stress and depression and stress and depression cause illness and death.

Marriage saves lives .

also, us men often have self destructive, wild, crazy and uncontrolled impulses that get is into all kind of trouble. True love bound in marriage is one of the best ways to tame the beast and that leads to less crime, violence, addiction, murder , imprisonment etc in society.


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    #23850681 - 11/20/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Great post. I agree. I've been more or less alone after leaving my home Alaska. I turned to the bottle. They shouldn't call it addiction they should call it bonding. People will bond to anything gambling, drugs, alcohol.

I was a heroin addict for years. I left home because of it, I started doing it right around someone I loved deeply went to college in another state. I was completely heartbroken. She was my muse. I still have the notebook during that period of my life. It's my most prized possession. It's filled with poetry and I thumb through it from time to time. I can remember where and when. Exactly what I was doing before I jotted it down. When I was optimistic and felt I could do and be anything. Everything else is replaceable that isn't. I do it all the time anyway I move a lot and only keep what I can fit in a backpack and suitcase.

I've pretty much been a fuckboi since. I'm not particularly proud about it. I create chaos out of nothing. I've met a lot of nice girls but I've gotten pessimistic the older i get.

My dog recently died of cancer and I got clean off the drink but that hit me super hard. I got him because I needed a friend. No matter what stupid shit I did he loved me. I needed him and he needed me. I give up my self destructiveness as I don't really care much for myself to be completely honest. The only things that truly make me happy are doing things for people I care about.

I am like a puppy It doesn't really matter how good I am at something it's nice to get a pat on the head and validation for the things you do. I'm my own worst critic. Eh coulda been better. You like it. Waggy tail. Well don't want to toot my own horn it's pretty good. :lol:

I was more or less fine in Montana. I had work and a room to live in. But the real reason I came back to Washington is because my mom and siblings live here. And I really do not want to be alone during the holidays. Especially after my dog dieing. I'd probably end up drinking myself into a ditch dead. I hate being alone it drives me insane.

I still drink but not like I was for 3 years. My sponsor who is a great friend of mine now and taught me to paint asked me to write down what I'm afraid of. When I started writing it became abundantly clear what I'm afraid of. I'm terrified of being alone and not useful. I've been on this site for 6 years if you look at the spikes in my postings they're all from times I was unemployed (not useful) and didn't have anyone to talk to. That's why I'll create topics and not necessarily care if people reply. Or create monolouges about myself in threads like this. Its to sort of fill that gap.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #23850770 - 11/20/16 08:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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humans are not meant to be alone. solitary confinement is torture , but how many single males spend 80 percent of their time alone in an apartment room about the size of a decent prison cell?

loneliness wreaks havoc on mental and physical health. not only that , we need not just physical company but genuine consistent affection and emotional connection.

we need to feel we are not alone in life , someone cares about us, someone is there for us when we need them , we need someone to talk to , you confide in, to encourage us when we feel hopeless and congratulate us and share in our happiness when we succeed.


we need to feel needed.  we need massages when we are sore and warm cuddles on cold nights. we need someone to care for us when we are sick and injured. we need a friendly smile to come home to after a hard day at work.

I need my wife on so many levels and all the casual sex in the world wouldn't fill more than 1% of the needs she fulfills and what she does for me.

I think it's all this and more that explains why married men are happier and healthier. 

loneliness causes stress and depression and stress and depression cause illness and death.

Marriage saves lives .

also, us men often have self destructive, wild, crazy and uncontrolled impulses that get is into all kind of trouble. True love bound in marriage is one of the best ways to tame the beast and that leads to less crime, violence, addiction, murder , imprisonment etc in society.




I want to call absolute bullshit on what you just said but I know most people will agree with you.

I don't know what loneliness feels like because I want to be alone. People annoy me. Maybe I wasn't meant to be. Although I do agree that you need people in life because you can't do everything yourself. We are all dependent on each other but when it comes to your personal life, not everybody needs somebody. I go out of my way to be alone. Hell, I meet my social need from an online forum where I can just walk away whenever I get tired of you people. I do however agree that you need someone to care for you when you're sick.

As for the stress and depression of loneliness. It the reason why I avoid people, they cause unnecessary stress in my life which leads to unhappiness.

I can buy massages anytime I want and I'm not about to go rob a bank or beat up somebody either.

Although I know I'm an rather extreme case, I can say this; Nt everybody is in the same boat.


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    #23850788 - 11/20/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I am trying my hardest to bite my tongue because I know people will take it the wrong way, but it sounds to me like someone who was raised to be dependent on their mother, not that there's anything wrong with that.

I get weirded out by excessive praise and affection, but I am also pretty far down on the introvert side of things.  I always feel like if people knew what really went though my mind they would think I am an asshole, but I am nice enough to put on a fake affable front for their sake, and so they don't burn me at the stake.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Patlal]
    #23850808 - 11/20/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

See I'm the exact opposite. I do value thinking time for myself. Which is why I have my hobbies. But 90% of the time I love talking and sharing things with other people. Hell on long bus trips I don't even touch my phone I'll strike up a conversation with the person next to me.

My personal goal in life isn't to be rich, have a big house, etc. I believe everybody has a story to tell and my goal is to hear as many of them as possible.

Whenever I'm enjoying something I'm always thinking who can I share this with that will enjoy it as well.

Yea father did skip out ma raised 4 of us for 10 years. So I wouldn't doubt it. I don't really need constant praise. I worked at this restaurant from 17-21 it was failing when I first started. The manager sat down with me and went through my stack of right ups over the years. Mostly dumb shit me being a dumb kid etc. We shared some laughs etc. But at the end he just said beside all that you were a huge part of turning this business around.

It's not something I need all the time Its just nice to get a little validation. I'm proud of the things I do as anything I do I want to be the best at it. Or at least try.


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    #23850831 - 11/20/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I mean it is a complex thing what makes up a person.  Despite my liking for being left to myself I do really like almost everyone I meet, and I have no problem holding a conversation or finding common ground.  It's just that where other people would get wore down by loneliness I get wore down from making the effort to be personable.


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    #23850836 - 11/20/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I was born in 91. Does that make me a millennial? I'm not sure when the start date for that is but I'd be really offended if someone called me a millennial. I've talked with quite a few friends one was the person who said that.




Yeah. I was born in the 80's and I found out recently I'm a millennial too :lol:

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Shoot yourself full of some testosterone and see how it magically changes your perception and predisposition?




I have. And that's bullshit. It doesn't completely change your brain or structure of thinking. The only thing I noticed is that I was in a much better mood overall while on testosterone. I was always like that before though, but even moreso on testosterone. Aside from that I never noticed any drastic or even subtle changes in thinking.


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What do you think the man of the house is doing while the woman stays home and cooks and cleans?




That's fine if the responsibilities are divided up and allocated like that, but if you read my post it was about how these duties, along with childcare duties, fall back on the woman even when she is also working full-time.


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Yep. If men decided to walk off and do their own thing, women would die off very quickly.

Men have become the labour force and slaves of the world. I think it's time to fight for our rights or walk off the plantation.




Don't act like you wouldn't die off too. :lol: Unless you can grow your own food, make your own antibiotics...

"Men have become the labour force and slaves of the world" :lol: lol, are you aware that the majority of the global economy relies on primarily women for sweatshop labor? Women compose close to 90% of sweatshop labor. If we're talking about the world, women are quite literally the slaves of the world, while men have been the ones exploiting and profiting off them.

Supposedly women compose 40% of the world labor force yet only own 1% of the world's wealth or something crazy like that.


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    #23850844 - 11/20/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I like this kid.
Smart, and aware.
I myself was raised by a large group of women.
It has been both good and bad as far as life skills are concerned.  I can do most everything a "manly man" can do. I was a landscaper, general labor and all of that.  However, on the same token I know how to cook from scratch, sew, have a good "talk" and do household chores.  I pretty much raised my son while my wife worked.  We were on a small farm, 85% sustainable, chickens, 2000 sq ft garden, goats, small pond, a lake and 70 acres to hunt.  I did all of that plus raised my boy teaching him ALL skills.  I can mend your pants after killing a deer with my recurve bow.
I can bake you bread while I change your oil.
I am grateful for these traits and as much as my sexuality has been questioned for my entire life I feel I am a hybrid that most partners seek.
I too have battled addictions most of my life, and understand the pull to be near family and desire love.
It sounds like you are a pretty decent dude enjoy, carry on.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Patlal]
    #23850878 - 11/20/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

patlal I am the exact same way. I am and have always been an intensely private , introverted person who prefers to be alone


the exception is my wife. she is the one person who I actually feel more comfortable with than when I am alone.

you sound like you have the exact same introverted private solitude. loving personality I do, and that leads me to believe that you still need and want a true partner , you just haven't met them yet and thus don't know it yet because you don't know what you are missing yet.

you think about how much you prefer being alone than being with other people, but I hope someday you experience what it's like that comfortable private safe personal space to be shared with a soul mate who makes you feel even safer and more comfortable and relaxed then you ever felt alone.

introverts need love just as much as extroverts.

trust me I spent my entire life hiding from people, alone in libraries or my room, comfortable in my isolation. i also had the exact same anti marriage opinions you have. when I met my wife that all changed , and while I am still as private and introverted a person as ever I now spend every waking moment that I possibly can with my wife.

the miracle is that being with her is the best of both worlds. it feels as safe and cozy and peaceful as being alone with all the comfort and and Companionship of a trusted best friend and all the pleasure of a lover.

all I'm saying is don't trick yourself into believing you don't need / want love and affection and Companionship just because you are a private person. You do. we all do
its human nature.

Be happy with yourself when you are alone but don't mentally close the door to love and relationship. it would be a tragic mistake .

whatever ideas you have in your mind of what love and marriage is are just that - ideas. have an open mind and be open to experiencing what it really is for you. 

but get a prenup.


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    #23850940 - 11/20/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

True true. Even taking care of my dog was hard. I worked at a hotel for a while and we had a big events area that could be bought. Restaurant catered and such. When I saw the bills for the price people would pay for a 2 hour reception. 6 grand+ holy shit you could have went on vacation for a month and that's what you spend 6 grand on?

3 grand wedding dress you'll wear for an hour?!

Hell at least a tux makes sense to buy there are many occasions they apply but men generally just rent them.

I wouldn't marry someone who wasted all that money for something like a wedding. If there first thought is let's travel and share new experiences together for a while until we have to get back to grinding away I'm all for it. Hell I don't even have family really except my parents and siblings.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: qman]
    #23850956 - 11/20/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865629093/US-marriage-rate-hits-new-low-and-may-continue-to-decline.html?pg=all

I think it's an economic issue, men can barely take care of themselves, never mind a wife and family.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/u-s-divorce-rate-lowest-35-years-marriage-bit-article-1.2878130




On the other hand one could argue that it's more feasible in today's society to live with your partner. I mean, rent and room rates are so high, that I could never possibly afford a mortgage unless I were to split it with somebody else. That somebody, in all likelihood, would probably be a long-term partner of some kind. Unless you manage to find a group of young men (or women) who have Peter Pan complex and also never want to grow up.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23850962 - 11/20/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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True true. Even taking care of my dog was hard. I worked at a hotel for a while and we had a big events area that could be bought. Restaurant catered and such. When I saw the bills for the price people would pay for a 2 hour reception. 6 grand+ holy shit you could have went on vacation for a month and that's what you spend 6 grand on?

3 grand wedding dress you'll wear for an hour?!




What's crazy is that 3 grand is considered on the lower end of wedding dress cost, those dresses start at $1K and those are for the cheapest "budget dresses" available. The nicer ones are probably closer to $10K or $20K.

I would rather spend that money on my honeymoon personally. With that money we could buy round-trip business class tickets to pretty much anywhere in the world. It's always been a dream of mine to fly Dubai Emirates business class one day. :awesome:

The most expensive wedding in the world was by a couple in India, they spent $75 million for 500,000 guests.


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    #23850985 - 11/20/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ya man total nuts. Hell even if I did marry into a rich family that paid for all of it seriously? Fuck instead of 6 hours pay our rent for a year or 2. I bet we'll be great together before we have to start barely getting by again. And stressing over whether we need food more than electricity  :lol:


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    #23850987 - 11/20/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865629093/US-marriage-rate-hits-new-low-and-may-continue-to-decline.html?pg=all

I think it's an economic issue, men can barely take care of themselves, never mind a wife and family.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/u-s-divorce-rate-lowest-35-years-marriage-bit-article-1.2878130




On the other hand one could argue that it's more feasible in today's society to live with your partner. I mean, rent and room rates are so high, that I could never possibly afford a mortgage unless I were to split it with somebody else. That somebody, in all likelihood, would probably be a long-term partner of some kind. Unless you manage to find a group of young men (or women) who have Peter Pan complex and also never want to grow up.




I think once someone is in their mid 40's and older, it makes economic sense just to stay married today, even if unhappy. 

Today young adults are graduating with 100k in student debt, there's no future of homes, children and marriage with that burden.


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    #23850998 - 11/20/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I think once someone is in their mid 40's and older, it makes economic sense just to stay married today, even if unhappy. 

Today young adults are graduating with 100k in student debt, there's no future of homes, children and marriage with that burden.




The part about homes is especially true, I only know of maybe one couple my age who even has a mortgage. Everybody else is stuck renting apartments or rooms well into their 30's.


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    #23851011 - 11/20/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ya I generally end up renting rooms than coming home and helping ma kicking it with siblings. Repeat
It just isn't practical to live by yourself. Even making good money 12-15 an hour you could theoretically. Factor in food, cost of travel, I haven't owned a car in years because of insurance and bus systems are good here but inconvenient still adds up, etc etc your broke.

I pretty much have fun once a month. That's it. I can't afford anything else. I wanted to go to tons of shows and stuff moving to Washington. Ha. Good luck with that. No matter how much I move up in pay grade I'm always broke. Thank God I chose not to go to college. I went for a year for basically free in Alaska but it's just money all the time. Money to park. Money for books. Money to do your homework online. Money money money.

but I was going to go to Eastern Washington. When I got the cost per year after financial aid was factored in I'd be 90k in debt. I wish I could have but I could not bring myself to do that.


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    #23851017 - 11/20/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Ya I generally end up renting rooms than coming home and helping ma kicking it with siblings. Repeat

It just isn't practical to live by yourself. Even making good money 12-15 an hour you could theoretically. Factor in food, cost of travel, I haven't owned a car in years because of insurance and bus systems are good here but inconvenient still adds up, etc etc your broke.

I pretty much have fun once a month. That's it. I can't afford anything else. I wanted to go to tons of shows and stuff moving to Washington. Ha. Good luck with that. No matter how much I move up in pay grade I'm always broke. Thank God I chose not to go to college. I went for a year for basically free in Alaska but it's just money all the time. Money to park. Money for books. Money to do your homework online. Money money money.

but I was going to go to Eastern Washington. When I got the cost per year after financial aid was factored in I'd be 90k in debt. I wish I could have but I could not bring myself to do that.





That's pretty normal for your age though, you're like what 23? I'm talking about people in their late 30's still doing the same thing, renting apartments or subletting because few people can afford to get a mortgage on their own.


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    #23851025 - 11/20/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865629093/US-marriage-rate-hits-new-low-and-may-continue-to-decline.html?pg=all

I think it's an economic issue, men can barely take care of themselves, never mind a wife and family.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/u-s-divorce-rate-lowest-35-years-marriage-bit-article-1.2878130




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    #23851028 - 11/20/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

25. 26 in January. We'll I guess that's somewhat reassuring?  :lol:

Kind of went through a quarter life crisis. Feel like I should have accomplished more etc. Apparently it's becoming more and more the standard.


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    #23851068 - 11/20/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Would you care to explain why birth rates and economic status seem to be inversely proportional?




I have no idea if this is accurate. But I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess it has something to do with religion. Religious people such as Catholics (Irish, Mexicans, etc.) don't use birth control, they also don't believe in abortion, so they end up popping out their 1st kid by age 15 and then by the time they're 25 they already have 5 or 6 little ones running around.

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25. 26 in January. We'll I guess that's somewhat reassuring?  :lol:

Kind of went through a quarter life crisis. Feel like I should have accomplished more etc. Apparently it's becoming more and more the standard.




It is normal. Unfortunately it's the norm nowadays for a lot of kids to graduate college and end up moving back in with their parents for a few years. So as long as you're living on your own, even if it's with roommates, I'd say you're doing pretty well for your age.


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    #23851089 - 11/20/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

people with higher economic status are more educated. more educated people have fewer children and wait longer to have them.

Futhermore, each child moves the family drastically closer to the poverty line.  so on the one hand poor people have more kids , and on the other hand having more kids makes you poor.

while marriage has many mental emotional physical and financial health benefits , having children has a severe detrimental effect in all these areas.

people who have children are less happy, have less healthy/happy romantic relationships, are much more stressed and depressed , and report less satisfaction and happiness with life , and have lower levels of health and fitness. they are drastically less well off financially and attain much lower levels of success in career and education.

studies have shown that having a child has a greater negative effect on happiness then the death of a spouse.

It turns out parenthood is worse than divorce, unemployment — even the death of a partner

"parenthood is supposed to be joyous. At least that's what the movies and Target ads tell us.

In reality, it turns out that having a child can have a pretty strong negative impact on a person's happiness, according to a new study published in the journal Demography. In fact, on average, the effect of a new baby on a person's life is devastatingly bad — worse than divorce, worse than unemployment and worse even than the death of a partner.

On average, new parenthood led to a 1.4 unit drop in happiness. That's considered very severe."

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/to-your-health/wp/2015/08/11/the-most-depressing-statistic-imaginable-about-being-a-new-parent/%3F0p19G%3De


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    #23851123 - 11/20/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think that's necessarily true. Sure having kids when your young and unprepared is completely illogical. Why I don't have any myself.

I love kids myself I've dealt with many single moms over the years. All incredibly hard working people and selfless. I envy that trait as I explained earlier.

I'm a big kid mostly at heart. My best friend here in Washington is a girl. Her son is 3 now. Kids crack me up. Tustin! My names Justin. Runs up hugs me. You haven't been being a little rascal have ya. Who am I kidding of course you have.

So yes I guess my intelligence is apart of why I've gone out of my to not have kids. But that isn't the real reason I want to provide better than what I grew up with. Stable partner, stable job, stability.

People keep focusing on themselves for so long it becomes normal. As it's never enough. We'll maybe when I get that next pay raise. Maybe if we have a bigger house. I'm sure a lot of parents that are in the shroomery would disagree. Your never ready. It's an entirely different world. Not focused on yourself.


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    #23851130 - 11/20/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I remember reading that German study, and I totally believe it. I could tell my parents regretted having children. My mother encouraged me not to get married or have children ever since I was young.

There's a group on Facebook that I follow and like to read, it's called "I Regret Having Children." It's a shame because it's so taboo for parents to come out in the open and admit this sort of thing. You can say I regret getting married, I regret going to college, I regret this or that and nobody blinks an eye. But society really looks down on parents who don't say nothing but positive things about the experience of rearing children.

Parents should be more honest about feeling trapped or depressed after having children. It's perfectly natural and okay to feel these feelings, and it doesn't necessarily make you a bad parent.

https://www.facebook.com/IRegretHavingChildren/?fref=ts


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    #23851147 - 11/20/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:lol:

My really good friend that I lived and worked with in Montana the day he went off to college his dad told him.  "you have been nothing but a dissappointment to me."

:rofl:

We joke about it all the time. His dad's a hard ass you gotta work hard. He's like 70 and still working his ass off. And my buddy who's nickname is actually budde is an expert carpenter. I learned a lot from him.

We Laid some sod for a house we were Remodling and his dad patted him on the shoulder. You did good work son.

His brother and I exchanged glances and could barely keep from laughing. We got back to our house. Holy shit dude I think your dad said I love you. Well as close as your going to get. :rofl:

It's been a running joke for years. We'll 7 or so.


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    #23851246 - 11/20/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

yes many parents inwardly regret having kids but lie to themselves and others about it.  For every one mother who admits she regrets it there are 100 who feel the same but will never admit it even to themselves.

The less kids you have the more educationally and economically successful you are and the happier you are , and vice versa (statistically).

every aspect of life suffers, and the world is massively overpopulated already so you are basically sacrificing your own life and happiness to hasten the destruction of the global environment.

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    #23851309 - 11/20/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

So should we just all stop having kids and let the human race just go extinct? I personally appreciate people who have kids and raise them right, even though I don't see myself having any.


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    #23851324 - 11/20/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

no, we should bring our rates of reproduction drastically down to a level that is ecologically sustainable.  drastically down, but not down to zero. 

right now we are over populating our way to extinction.  You are suggesting zero reproduction to extinction. 

obviously between those two suicidal extremes is the correct third option - a level of reproduction that is sustainable and will allow the global population to rapidly and drastically decrease to sustainable levels while still having enough children for humanity to continue.

something like one child per person, one child per couple or one child per womb would be the needed policy.  another idea would be that before being allowed to have one child of your own you would need to adopt a child first/as well.

anyone who really wants to do something good for the world should adopt and help one of the millions of kids who desperately need a parent. anyone who chooses to have their own child in a dying overpopulated world rather than adopt one of the children who desperately need them is making an immoral, selfish and destructive choice, and in that sense they deserve the massive drop in happiness they bring on themselves by doing so.


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    #23851342 - 11/20/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:nodofunderstanding:  Agreed.  It really irks me when people say things like "well I want to continue my own bloodline" in justifying having babies.  We're all family and somebody who can't comprehend that probably doesn't have the empathy to be a loving parent.  I do take solace in the fact that they usually end up with what they deserve, a miserable whining shit machine chock full of stupidity and flaws, insisting on being rebellious and resentful of their parents.


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    #23851363 - 11/20/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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So should we just all stop having kids and let the human race just go extinct? I personally appreciate people who have kids and raise them right, even though I don't see myself having any.




Ya I don't really get it. Kids are born in shitty situations so what. My Ma raised 4 of us by herself since I was 10. My brother is going into pre med graduating valedictorian.

My sister 2nd to me has traveled Europe and South America. Speaks 4 languages fluently.

The youngest my other sister plays 5 instruments like there nothing. Incredibly talented.

I'm more or less the fuck up of the family. But I've spent a lot of my time not caring about me protecting them. That was my job and I'm the oldest. They are all incredibly talented. We didn't have grandparents or aunts or uncles. Friends became family. My mom said "I had 4 of you so you would have family"

I graduated top 5% was supposed to do a lot of things. But I needed to help my family. It is what it is. I don't expect anything from them the fact that they're successful is reward enough. I'll always be fine. I work hard and provide for myself and others. Material wealth isn't something I desire.


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    #23851391 - 11/20/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

people are simply ignorant of the extreme existential threat caused by overpopulation.  Nobody who had any understanding of the severity of the situation would dream of having more than one child if that.

if we want to destroy the world as we know it in less then 100 years all we need to do is for everyone to have 4 kids. game over.


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    #23851405 - 11/20/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Didn't imply there was anything wrong with that. Just something I noticed. Should all be balanced out though if that's the case. Those women should start learning how to do more of the typical chores men tend to do also.




I absolutely agree, I think a lot of women would love to learn how to change the oil on your car, or how to fix a leaky sink. I often wish I grew up with somebody who could have taught me those things, because then I could save money by being more self-sustaining and self-reliant.

Honestly though even my dad doesn't know how to do those things, he's more of the absent-minded professor type, not the handyman type.

Not only that, but I think when you learn to do things like taking apart car engines and building cabinets and things like that when you're young, your brain becomes naturally better at doing engineering and construction and building things of that nature.




It's not just the father though.  There is definitely a brotherhood among men where that sort of secret knowledge is passed around.  Don't feel too bad because there are alot of men who are not in on it either.  It's like the freemasons only instead of sucking an elder's cock to get your foot in the door you have to spend years getting your hands burnt beaten and crusty, bathing in dirty oil, being constantly reminded how useless you are, learning endlessly redundant jargon, and doing mindless repetitive physical labor for long hours every day year after year.




This is most peoples lives I think. Most people who don't live like pigs anyway.

I was raised with brothers, who bullied me relentlessly, my older brother learned some of this guy stuff but me and my younger brother barely learned shit. (I mean any shit.) I've taught myself to cook and clean and how to change my oil from observation and trial and error. The only thing my younger brother has taught himself is how to make drugs.

Might be biased but I think since he's the baby he could just rely on someone else doing these things. If not there's technology and roombas and microwaves and shit. He never had incentive to teach himself alot of these things.

I still baby him a bit too. Though I'm a bit harder on his lessons that I was. "How do I make tacos" :lol: cook the beef and add water and stir in seasoning you ...and then I leave and let him read the instructions... :lol: honestly I think cooking is one of the easiest things to teach yourself. There's directions and instructions everywhere. But I suppose it can be overwhelming if you know absolutely nothing about cooking. Most men I know I'd say can cook but never anything complicated.

Anyway,
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    #23851435 - 11/20/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Well that isn't in my lifetime so I'm not worried about it. Hell I'm hardly worried about politics or what happens in the state next to me. I worry about the little piece of the world i live in. My family, friends, and that small piece.

Seems my Ma made the right choice. Why are you so worried about 100 years from now. Nothing is guaranteed. Technology is advancing at an insane rate. I get it I have thoughts about a lot of theoreticals in such topics. But I am by no means an expert on any of it as reading pieces by people who are experts doesn't make you one.

Things are constantly being debunked and reproofed. I think the earth will be fine it naturally adapts. Will we be able to keep up? That's the question.

But not something that I worry about. I'm not qualified to know that answer.

And to new post I make mean tacos. Nom Nom Nom.

And ya my youngest sister. Baby of the family. Complains about a ton of things. She's a fantastic musician. I play music as well and showed her things along the way. But it's such an inconvenience to load a dishwasher.

Ugh wait til you get your first job. Try washing dishes for 8 hours a day. This takes 2 minutes top. Just got back recently and ma's yelling at me "why didn't you organize them and tell them what to do"

"there 18 and 16 practically adults fuck man. I can't really force them to do anything."

They are definitely lazy when it comes to chores but are excelling academically. But there going to get rude wake up calls when they get actual jobs.


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    #23851588 - 11/20/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

but dude that will be in your kids lifetime. so by having kids you are not only dooming  the world but also dooming your own kids, which is to say you are having a kid and dropping him into a dying world .

not only is it fucking over the planet but also your own child.

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    #23851599 - 11/20/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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This is most peoples lives I think. Most people who don't live like pigs anyway.

I was raised with brothers, who bullied me relentlessly, my older brother learned some of this guy stuff but me and my younger brother barely learned shit. (I mean any shit.) I've taught myself to cook and clean and how to change my oil from observation and trial and error. The only thing my younger brother has taught himself is how to make drugs.

Might be biased but I think since he's the baby he could just rely on someone else doing these things. If not there's technology and roombas and microwaves and shit. He never had incentive to teach himself alot of these things.

I still baby him a bit too. Though I'm a bit harder on his lessons that I was. "How do I make tacos" :lol: cook the beef and add water and stir in seasoning you ...and then I leave and let him read the instructions... :lol: honestly I think cooking is one of the easiest things to teach yourself. There's directions and instructions everywhere. But I suppose it can be overwhelming if you know absolutely nothing about cooking. Most men I know I'd say can cook but never anything complicated.

Anyway,
Why do people insist gender roles don't exist? there's at least 4 pages of it here.




Well it's not like hard rules, and gender roles are changing, but yeah I can't deny if a qualified female came in and applied to do what I do I would be really surprised.  I really don't think any of us have anything to complain about.  I used to dream of self reliance and using my wits on my own to make my way, but having tried that I've learned to appreciate having routine that involves family, regular meals, and a warm place to sleep at night. 

I think I'm like Dick Trickle described, sort of a hybrid.  I wasn't born into a trade, I get along really well with women socially, I don't like sports, and I'm an ardent socialist in a time and place where that isn't really popular among working men.  My saving grace is that I'm not a drama queen and where it counts I'm old school.  I realize that when you're doing dangerous work you can't call out sick because you don't feel like going to work.  The work that I'm not doing is going to get put onto someone else's shoulders, and if someone got hurt when I called out to fuck off I could never forgive myself.  That is something you can only learn about a person after working beside them a while, and I feel really lucky to have some other people like that at my job.

Alot of the guys I work with probably wouldn't want to be my friend if we met on the street, and I kinda feel the same, but it sort of becomes a second family.  It transcends politics, sexuality, social status, and even gender.  What really counts as a man or a woman is that you are there shouldering your burden. 

Give your brother time.  It took me a while to realize what is important, and I never would have made it without my family sticking by me.


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    #23851615 - 11/20/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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but dude that will be in your kids lifetime. so by having kids you are not only dooming  the world but also dooming your own kids, which is to say you are having a kid and dropping him into a dying world .

not only is it fucking over the planet but also your own child.

if you have a kid now he will grow up just in time to experience the complete collapse of life on earth. your children will curse you with their dying breath.




But dude 20 years ago the Internet was just a thing. Going to Mars is in the talks. Nanobot technology I feel like I'm constantly reading things that are fledgling just like dialup Internet in the mid 90's

I think your underselling people by quite a bit. We only have us to bet on.  You are a person after all. I don't claim to be an expert. Chill. Everyone was freaking out about oil but shit we have self driving cars. Still testing but whatever. We are very adaptable that's why we've become the dominant species on earth.

The ice caps melting. Sea life activity has gone up 40% the ice caps contain iron which plankton eat. And basically everything eats plankton. They suck up co2. The earth will adapt and we will as well. As long as an asteroid or alien death star dont vaporize us.

It's not all doom and gloom. I focus on the small area I live in. Being a decent person.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23851640 - 11/20/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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This is most peoples lives I think. Most people who don't live like pigs anyway.

I was raised with brothers, who bullied me relentlessly, my older brother learned some of this guy stuff but me and my younger brother barely learned shit. (I mean any shit.) I've taught myself to cook and clean and how to change my oil from observation and trial and error. The only thing my younger brother has taught himself is how to make drugs.

Might be biased but I think since he's the baby he could just rely on someone else doing these things. If not there's technology and roombas and microwaves and shit. He never had incentive to teach himself alot of these things.

I still baby him a bit too. Though I'm a bit harder on his lessons that I was. "How do I make tacos" :lol: cook the beef and add water and stir in seasoning you ...and then I leave and let him read the instructions... :lol: honestly I think cooking is one of the easiest things to teach yourself. There's directions and instructions everywhere. But I suppose it can be overwhelming if you know absolutely nothing about cooking. Most men I know I'd say can cook but never anything complicated.

Anyway,
Why do people insist gender roles don't exist? there's at least 4 pages of it here.




Well it's not like hard rules, and gender roles are changing, but yeah I can't deny if a qualified female came in and applied to do what I do I would be really surprised.  I really don't think any of us have anything to complain about.  I used to dream of self reliance and using my wits on my own to make my way, but having tried that I've learned to appreciate having routine that involves family, regular meals, and a warm place to sleep at night. 

I think I'm like Dick Trickle described, sort of a hybrid.  I wasn't born into a trade, I get along really well with women socially, I don't like sports, and I'm an ardent socialist in a time and place where that isn't really popular among working men.  My saving grace is that I'm not a drama queen and where it counts I'm old school.  I realize that when you're doing dangerous work you can't call out sick because you don't feel like going to work.  The work that I'm not doing is going to get put onto someone else's shoulders, and if someone got hurt when I called out to fuck off I could never forgive myself.  That is something you can only learn about a person after working beside them a while, and I feel really lucky to have some other people like that at my job.

Alot of the guys I work with probably wouldn't want to be my friend if we met on the street, and I kinda feel the same, but it sort of becomes a second family.  It transcends politics, sexuality, social status, and even gender.  What really counts as a man or a woman is that you are there shouldering your burden. 

Give your brother time.  It took me a while to realize what is important, and I never would have made it without my family sticking by me.




Agreed. And that's why I value people that have different skills than mine. I hate working on cars. Can I do the basics and some intermediate shit I've learned by calling a friend that is more knowledgeable to help absolutely.

It's impossible to know everything. But that's OK you don't have to. When push comes to shove generally people will help you. I can't count how many times I've left my lights on and killed my battery being forgetful. 10 seconds after I ask people coming out of the store hey you got jumpers they will help.

I do the same. Shit happens to me more often than ya know. hop in Where's your car at? It takes 5-10 minutes to help someone out. I've made good friends I occasionally keep in touch with because of it.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23851642 - 11/20/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't call having kids a selfish choice, I would say my parents were selfless in every way, just that they were pressured by society to procreate.

I'd say that the majority of people out there don't even have kids intentionally or on purpose, but it just happens and they decide to keep them.

If every couple out there limited their spawn to 2 kids in their lifetimes then this world would be more than sustainable and fine. The population would even shrink because the birth rate would be slower than the death rate.


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    #23851645 - 11/20/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Who the fuck woulda thought so much intelligent, socially relevant discourse would erupt in a thread about MGTOW hahaha


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    #23851653 - 11/20/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah if you are willing to put up with someone giving you a hard time you can get alot out of people.  It takes a track record of being unreliable and flaky to get the cold shoulder from most.  If I pull over to help someone who's car broke down at 3am on a dead road I'm not going to ask their political affiliation before I decide to help them, because I know it is a pretty safe bet that someone would help me if I was in their shoes.


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    #23851666 - 11/20/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If we bring out reproduction levels to a sustainable, sane level we have a chance.  if we continue to reproduce blindly like Idiot rats in a cage we are doomed.  it's that simple.

anyone who argues that is part of the problem.

we aren't doomed.  we have a chance to save ourselves by using science reason and technology.  controlling our reproduction rates to bring down population levels is an essential part of that. 

If we do that we might have time to develop the technologies you speak of and use them to save ourselves.  if we continue to reproduce uncontrollably as we currently are those technologies won't save us.

we need those technologies AND sane population management. it's not either or, we need both and we need them both yesterday.

and yes, having children is selfish. saying your parents are selfless is nonsense. if they were selfless they would have adopted a child in need. the only reason they chose to have a baby instead of adopt is a selfish preference for their own genetics over the needs and suffering of children who already exist and the world at large.


it's ok to have a kid. it's not ok to have more than one. if you have one or less children you are part of the solution. if you have more than one you are part of the problem.

this is a paradigm shift that is urgently needed and if you care about Earth or humanity you should help bring about this paradigm shift, not resist it.

imagining the Future technology of tomorrow does not in any way excuse environmentally destructive behaviour today.

having 4 kids today based on the hope of a future technology saving us is like injecting yourself with ebola  and hoping someone invents a cure before it kills you.


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    #23851668 - 11/20/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Well in the end we need to petition our biological reproduction organs. I agree.

But I haven't used a condom in years. Never caught an std or the worst std of all. A child.  Well women have that in bc. Men just have condoms which suck for both parties.

I've theorized for years about a vasectomy you can get reversed. And read a whole thing about it a while ago that it is now possible. Probably to expensive.


Most of the girls I hook up with in this town are single mothers that got fixed. This joke is funny I enjoy telling it but also am a terrible person.

Chick's with kids are the best. You know they put out and make terrible life decisions.

Honestly I end up hanging out with the kids more. They are far more interesting but I'm a big kid myself. Quite a few have asked well aren't we going to hang out? In a minute we're playing cars and he just pulled off a perfect corner to take the lead! :lol:

Little people crack me up. Oh ya? Is that right? No! I basically just keep them talking. It's incredibly funny as there stories break there explanation down beyond a sentence and loses all coherency. Too funny

From what I gathered from his or hers toddler speak you disallowed cookies. That is unforgivable! :lol:

Ah I miss a lot of them. Fumbling through the English language. My favorite is my best friend in Washingtons son. He speaks broken Spanish and English. That really made me have to pay attention. He'll be bilingual though. That's really cool. I speak enough to get by and understand the jist. I do wish I was fluent but shit English is enough at times.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23851691 - 11/20/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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If we bring out reproduction levels to a sustainable, sane level we have a chance.  if we continue to reproduce blindly like Idiot rats in a cage we are doomed.  it's that simple.

anyone who argues that is part of the problem.




As I stated. 2 kids max per couple, then we should be more than good. Japan has something like 1 or 1.2 children per couple, and the country has stated this is a crisis for the nation since there will not be enough future taxpayers to support the system.


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and yes, having children is selfish. saying your parents are selfless is nonsense. if they were selfless they would have adopted a child in need. the only reason they chose to have a baby instead of adopt is a selfish preference for their own genetics over the needs and suffering of children who already exist and the world at large.




As I said. They were pressured by society to procreate. Japan doesn't have an adoption culture like in the USA, Japanese children in orphanages almost never get adopted. You have to be grateful for the fact that adopting and taking somebody else's children into your home is practiced here. In most countries no such practice is the norm or even exists.

Not only that, but a lot of people are rightfully afraid to adopt unknown children. I used to want to adopt a child when I was younger, but I've gotten a lot more wary about it since reading and hearing about a lot of horror stories. Stories of children ending up mentally ill or with severe rage and psychological imbalances. Even coming with really serious and costly health issues like cancer, or developing a serious disability, as children. You don't know what kind of genetics you're getting when you adopt.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23851695 - 11/20/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I've theorized for years about a vasectomy you can get reversed. And read a whole thing about it a while ago that it is now possible. Probably to expensive.




You should hold off on that, they're coming out with a male birth control medication very soon, probably in the next few years.


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    #23851700 - 11/20/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What is the mechanism behind that?  Something with hormones like the female one?


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    #23851720 - 11/20/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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What is the mechanism behind that?  Something with hormones like the female one?




Yeah it uses hormones similar to female contraceptives, even the side effects are very similar. They just ran some drug trials for it recently.

I know India has a male birth control shot. It's basically a gel that is injected in your vas deferens (I think), and blocks semen from coming out. It lasts 5 years or something.


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    #23851726 - 11/20/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Gross. I'd just stick with a vasectomy.


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    #23851729 - 11/20/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I'm all set with that.  I'll stick with jerking off.


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    #23851737 - 11/20/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I've theorized for years about a vasectomy you can get reversed. And read a whole thing about it a while ago that it is now possible. Probably to expensive.




You should hold off on that, they're coming out with a male birth control medication very soon, probably in the next few years.




Nah I'll just keep doing what I'm doing. Can't find a pretty girl in this town that doesn't have a kid. Which is fine. No baby daddy in sight. I swear there most have been something in the water all of the kids are 3-1

I was baffled about it. Well more baffled that they didn't hear about bc before. Than they have a kid or 2 and get fixed. From multiple baby daddies. That's one thing I don't like I will love your kids but you have to be able to provide me one. I'd hope for none as I would like to build a family.


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    #23851742 - 11/20/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Not only that, but a lot of people are rightfully afraid to adopt unknown children. I used to want to adopt a child when I was younger, but I've gotten a lot more wary about it since reading and hearing about a lot of horror stories. Stories of children ending up mentally ill or with severe rage and psychological imbalances. Even with really serious and costly health issues like cancer as children. You don't know what kind of genetics you're getting when you adopt.




I'd like to add too that adoption is not possible for people who aren't very well off. Ive heard of people being quoted $30k to adopt one child, and it could be even more for a newborn. A lot of people out there make enough money to support and raise children, but don't make enough to afford an upfront $30k fee.

And don't forget that you will probably come across scammers or birth parents that change their minds about the adoption even though they initially promised you their kids early on into the pregnancy. But by that time you've already paid them $5,000, $8,000, and that's money you never get back either. When you include those costs, it could cost well over $50k by the time you finally are able to adopt a child.

It's ironic, because there are practically no qualifications for having your own child and anybody can do it, but to adopt you have to prove all sorts of things.


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    #23851754 - 11/20/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I've theorized for years about a vasectomy you can get reversed. And read a whole thing about it a while ago that it is now possible. Probably to expensive.




You should hold off on that, they're coming out with a male birth control medication very soon, probably in the next few years.




It already came out and was used in a study that was cancelled due to severe behavioral side effects..

Pumping men full of female hormones has severe side-effects causing female behaviors to occur in a male dominated testosterone fueled body (DUH)... P.S - Female's body's are already conditioned for female hormones which is effectively what female birth control is. Females have cyclical mood swings due to body regulation regardless.

The injection, given every eight weeks, consisted of 1,000 milligrams of a synthetic form of testosterone and 200 milligrams of norethisterone enanthate, essentially a derivative of the female hormones progesterone and estrogen referred to as "progestin" in the synthetic form.

According to Dr. Seth Cohen, a urologist at NYU Langone Medical Center, when a man is given a shot of testosterone, "basically, the brain assumes the body is getting enough," so the body shuts down its own production of testosterone -- specifically "the testicle's production of testosterone as well as the testicle's production of sperm."


Serious negative effects resulting from the shots included one case of depression and one experience of an abnormally fast and irregular heartbeat after the injections stopped. The researchers considered one intentional overdose of acetaminophen possibly related.
"It is possible that the fluctuations in the circulating progestin following bimonthly injections could have resulted in the reported or observed mood swings, such as occurs in women, whether on a hormonal contraceptive or not," Colvard speculated.

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    #23851756 - 11/20/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah that part is fucked up.  And then foster parents get payed to have more kids then can manage once they get old enough nobody wants them anymore.


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    #23851769 - 11/20/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The side effects of that medication are the exact same side effects that occur fron female contraceptives. Look it up, they're literally the exact same. Depression, acne, weight gain, loss of libido, mood swings, etc.


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    #23851776 - 11/20/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My cousin(we aren't even blood related but one of my first memories was meeting him when we were kids and we grew up together. it's easier to just say cousin than explaining all this he's my brother and he's half white and half ecuadorian)

Just had a little daughter. I'm 2 years older than him and remember talking him through his first heartbreak. I know none of what I'm going to say isn't going to make sense now but just listen. He thanked me 3 years later.

5 years later little squid! I nicknamed him squid. From squid ward on SpongeBob as he was always a hypochondriac. He said I can't wait for you to meet your niece. Ah cute. Lil squidette. That made me happy. They grow up so fast :cry:

Haha it's been really joyous he lives in cali we live in Washington but we gained several new family members as he's married now. I can't wait to see them again.

I just told him. "our paths will cross again of that I have little doubt." I can't wait. He's happy I'm happy. He graduated from lil squid to man squid.


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I've theorized for years about a vasectomy you can get reversed. And read a whole thing about it a while ago that it is now possible. Probably to expensive.




You should hold off on that, they're coming out with a male birth control medication very soon, probably in the next few years.




Nah I'll just keep doing what I'm doing. Can't find a pretty girl in this town that doesn't have a kid. Which is fine. No baby daddy in sight. I swear there most have been something in the water all of the kids are 3-1

I was baffled about it. Well more baffled that they didn't hear about bc before. Than they have a kid or 2 and get fixed. From multiple baby daddies. That's one thing I don't like I will love your kids but you have to be able to provide me one. I'd hope for none as I would like to build a family.




This became a norm when everything got thrown into flux and confusion ...
Good men fell out of favor as financially independent saw no appeal in them vs the dangerous and more exciting men.. So, women entertained clowns for too long as they were confused as to what they needed in a  man... So they messed around with idiots and came to not understand that idiots aren't good husband material. They sat up and had a kid from an idiot who of course dipped out. From then on, men viewed them as damaged goods which resigns them to dating losers who the end up having another kid from .. etc etc until its nothing but hookups ..

Use caution with respect to such scenarios.


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    #23851807 - 11/20/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The side effects of that medication are the exact same side effects that occur fron female contraceptives. Look it up, they're literally the exact same. Depression, acne, weight gain, loss of libido, mood swings, etc.




I like how you selectively ignore what you don't want to hear ...
"such as occurs in women, whether on a hormonal contraceptive or not,""

Women are already predisposed to such cyclical swings regardless of whether or not they are on contraceptives. Please read. I don't have anything I need to look up as I clearly understand the biological and behavioral differences between males and females. You seem to be in denial about proven science.

http://www.webmd.com/women/guide/estrogen-and-womens-emotions
It's clear that estrogen is closely linked with women's emotional well-being. Depression and anxiety affect women in their estrogen-producing years more often than men or postmenopausal women. Estrogen is also linked to mood disruptions that occur only in women -- premenstrual syndrome, premenstrual dysphoric disorder, and postpartum depression.

http://www.webmd.com/men/testosterone-15738#1

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    #23851858 - 11/20/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sophisticated isn't the word that I would use.

Hormonal fluctuations negatively effect people. Men and women both. Only difference is mens hormones don't fluctuate as dramatically as womens.


You don't think it's a little bit funny how men can't have a birth control that produces the same side effects as womens? like we must be used to it so it's okay for us? Hormonal fluctuations caused by birth control are quite a bit different on individuals vs their natural hormonal fluctuations. It is this difference that actually enables it to treat some hormonal disorders.

I honestly think its funnier how much guys complain about condoms (here at least) when female options (aside from the female condom which is... Weird..) cause alot of seriously shitty side effects. I'm not saying that they should have went through with the male equivalent... I just don't understand why it's been approved for women for decades when it causes the same side effects.

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    #23851877 - 11/20/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

And since this topic was originally about marriage and I haven't commented on that, alot of older married women say their husbands can be big babies. When sick at least. I've heard more than a few women tell me they still have to keep up with the kids and housework when they have the flu, work too when they have a cold, but their husbands lay in bed and groan and their lady takes care of them along with the normal domestic duties.


Not saying that's how it actually is but enough women have told me this that I do think there's a nugget of truth to it. And I think it's because of what I was talking about earlier. You aren't as likely to push through and do something you've not had to before, I think this scenario is mostly true for men who moved straight from mom's house to their wife or gfs and never had any reason to learn domestic chores. And most repair things can typically wait until they get better.


Somone onn the first page said women would be screwed without men... I think it goes both ways honey.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Crystal G]
    #23851910 - 11/20/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Aye, funny enough I took home ec and blundered my way through there too. I learned how to clean by the teacher getting really upset at how I cleaned (come to find out moving cookie crumbs from one spot to another isn't cleaning.) and I messed up on my sewing project so bad I had to start over twice and the teacher ended up giving me an F for it. Apparently my older brother eating my potato baby was the last straw. Only class I ever failed in grade school :lol:




Is that why your name is Cookie Crumbs? :lol:





And no lol my name comes from the idiom "how the cookie crumbles." I also happen to like cookies :shrug:

Cookies was also slang for bud when I was a youngin.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23851980 - 11/20/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Sophisticated isn't the word that I would use.

Hormonal fluctuations negatively effect people. Men and women both. Only difference is mens hormones don't fluctuate as dramatically as womens.




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I think that is the appropriate word.
Women have natural fluctuations and cycles moreso than men.
Estrogen is at the root of that and at the root of a capability that women have to be able to handle it.

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You don't think it's a little bit funny how men can't have a birth control that produces the same side effects as womens?




No, I don't find it funny. I find that it makes scientific, biological, and logical sense as to why men's testosterone dominate bodies can't handle estrogen. The same way a female's estrogen dominated body can't handle testosterone. Maybe instead of sitting around laughing about things, people should spend more time becoming educated on the matter :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estrogen

That's what the internet was created for.


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like we must be used to it so it's okay for us? Hormonal fluctuations caused by birth control are quite a bit different on individuals vs their natural hormonal fluctuations. It is this difference that actually enables it to treat some hormonal disorders.





Yes, that's exactly how your bodies are tuned. Men's bodies aren't tuned for nor do they go through such cyclical changes. Men's body's burn testosterone and burn it at high rates
"On average, in adult males, levels of testosterone are about 7–8 times as great as in adult females.[5] As the metabolic consumption of testosterone in males is greater, the daily production is about 20 times greater in men."

Women's bodies go through cycles of nurtured renewal.

Yin/Yang..

Females of course are quite sensitive to male hormones as males are quite sensitive to female hormones. Thus why you don't cross dope female bodies w/ male hormones or cross dope male bodies with female hormones.

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I honestly think its funnier how much guys complain about condoms (here at least) when female options (aside from the female condom which is... Weird..) cause alot of seriously shitty side effects. I'm not saying that they should have went through with the male equivalent... I just don't understand why it's been approved for women for decades when it causes the same side effects.

Don't tell me that's not a double standard.




Contraceptives are essentially a derivative of the female hormones progesterone and estrogen. Females bodies are tuned towards female hormones males bodies aren't. The side effects are not the same. There is no double standard and science backs it. Seriously, i wish people spent as much time informing themselves. It really does the world a disservice when has been made so easy to inform yourself.

On a side note, my personal stance is that male and females are equal. I find the ultimate expressions of women to be as powerful and strong as the ultimate expressions of men. I didn't get caught up in the false narrative that was spun into the social consciousness of America which turned women against men and made everything a competition as its divisive and it leads to ruin. Men and women are equal but different.

Denying the foundational differences is ignorant and dogmatic. The science is clear on this matter. Men will never be women and women will never be men. When you understand and embrace the foundational basics, it frees you to pursue whatever social avenue you want. It's when you fight nature that you lose and will find yourself in social confusion as nature will keep beating its drum and driving the point home.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Crystal G]
    #23851986 - 11/20/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I've theorized for years about a vasectomy you can get reversed. And read a whole thing about it a while ago that it is now possible. Probably to expensive.




You should hold off on that, they're coming out with a male birth control medication very soon, probably in the next few years.




Nah I'll just keep doing what I'm doing. Can't find a pretty girl in this town that doesn't have a kid. Which is fine. No baby daddy in sight. I swear there most have been something in the water all of the kids are 3-1

I was baffled about it. Well more baffled that they didn't hear about bc before. Than they have a kid or 2 and get fixed. From multiple baby daddies. That's one thing I don't like I will love your kids but you have to be able to provide me one. I'd hope for none as I would like to build a family.




This became a norm when everything got thrown into flux and confusion ...
Good men fell out of favor as financially independent saw no appeal in them vs the dangerous and more exciting men.. So, women entertained clowns for too long as they were confused as to what they needed in a  man... So they messed around with idiots and came to not understand that idiots aren't good husband material. They sat up and had a kid from an idiot who of course dipped out. From then on, men viewed them as damaged goods which resigns them to dating losers who the end up having another kid from .. etc etc until its nothing but hookups ..

Use caution with respect to such scenarios.




I want to say your wrong but I do think of it like that. Id like to find someone that has a blank slate. When you deal with girls with kids that are constantly dealing with them. Arguing about this and that. It's annoying. Why I enjoy the kids time more as it isn't that fault and I play a mean brontasuarus.

It's stupid. I don't get it. Apparently now smart people wait and have maybe a kid eventually. Hopefully there smartness can turn biology off.
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Not only that, but a lot of people are rightfully afraid to adopt unknown children. I used to want to adopt a child when I was younger, but I've gotten a lot more wary about it since reading and hearing about a lot of horror stories. Stories of children ending up mentally ill or with severe rage and psychological imbalances. Even with really serious and costly health issues like cancer as children. You don't know what kind of genetics you're getting when you adopt.




I'd like to add too that adoption is not possible for people who aren't very well off. Ive heard of people being quoted $30k to adopt one child, and it could be even more for a newborn. A lot of people out there make enough money to support and raise children, but don't make enough to afford an upfront $30k fee.

And don't forget that you will probably come across scammers or birth parents that change their minds about the adoption even though they initially promised you their kids early on into the pregnancy. But by that time you've already paid them $5,000, $8,000, and that's money you never get back either. When you include those costs, it could cost well over $50k by the time you finally are able to adopt a child.

It's ironic, because there are practically no qualifications for having your own child and anybody can do it, but to adopt you have to prove all sorts of things.





One of the things my sister is most scared about as her and her gf are going to get married.

But taking away her right to adopt. Blood doesn't matter to me like my not blood cousin/brother just had a Kid that was never a question. She's are little Nina. 

I'd love my little niece or nephew none of that is important. I'm far from perfect but I love family. Blood isn't important. Friends are family and blood is family. It is what it is.

I will teach you cool things along the way of you growing as I did my siblings.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23852019 - 11/20/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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And since this topic was originally about marriage and I haven't commented on that, alot of older married women say their husbands can be big babies.



Because, when a man dedicates his life to a woman, he lets his guard down and expects her nurturing embrace. There is no need to compete or boast or put on a 'tough guy' show as we have to tirelessly do this in the crazy world. So, we put our weapons and armor down in knowing that we are in safe and nurturing hands.

It seems women don't understand this, never thought to inquire about it, mistakingly and tragically come to lose respect for their male partner... Think they're pussies and serve to undo the amazing bond they have with their partner.

Men are not as dumb as they look btw.. A man can sense when you have lost respect for them, think they're a pussy, or a baby.. Many times they just don't say it because they love you and don't think you'd be that naive or dumb to look at them like that.

Ultimately, if this persists to long, the man will go out and re-assure to himself that he is indeed a strong man.

Alas...

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When sick at least. I've heard more than a few women tell me they still have to keep up with the kids and housework when they have the flu, work too when they have a cold, but their husbands lay in bed and groan and their lady takes care of them along with the normal domestic duties.




Yet again, this perception is unfounded and naive. Men spend every waking moment of their lives burning the very essence of their being to be strong and protective. That causes a lot fo wear and tear. We need downtime every now-and-again.. God forbid, we sometimes get sick and sickness for males causes huge disruptions in our biological balance. Women's bodies are fundamental different in this regard and thus there are different social expectations.

You carry children for 9 grueling months to nurture and usher in life. Males spend every waking moment of their lives from that point on tirelessly worrying about and trying to protect that life.

Yin/Yang. Two equal parts of a unified whole.


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Not saying that's how it actually is but enough women have told me this that I do think there's a nugget of truth to it. And I think it's because of what I was talking about earlier. You aren't as likely to push through and do something you've not had to before, I think this scenario is mostly true for men who moved straight from mom's house to their wife or gfs and never had any reason to learn domestic chores. And most repair things can typically wait until they get better.




Most men now-a-days have spent a considerable amount of time doing 'chores' and domestic duties as women wholesale abandoned it in favor of competing in the workplace for the same slice of resources. For a man, chores really aren't a big deal. You do them when they're needed and move on with life. I really don't see what all the complaining is about especially when modern day technologies make chores as easy as pushing a button.


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Somone onn the first page said women would be screwed without men... I think it goes both ways honey.



Indeed. Thus why it was asinine to embark on such socially divisive ideologies.
O'well. Somethings people have to learn the hard way.


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    #23852045 - 11/20/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I cant seem to copy the hormone debate.  But the jist was were hard wired of both seres. I completely agree. I did try a trans female. The smell was all wrong. I could barely keep hard.

She did get in touch with me and I love her but it was more I wanted to hook up with her hot Asian friend. Who is female. Damn she looks hot in her mini skirts she always wears in winter. Eating pussy is one of my favorite memories I did it for most of a day. The pheromones are intoxicating.

I do have a new found respect for head though. It's definitely hard the funniest thing she said to me was. "stop scraping your teeth"  which was the same exact thing I told my first head giver. Way back in the day. I bust into laughter.

Damn I own a dick and I can't even give decent head. For shame. :lol:


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23852046 - 11/20/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I want to say your wrong but I do think of it like that.





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Id like to find someone that has a blank slate. When you deal with girls with kids that are constantly dealing with them. Arguing about this and that. It's annoying.




Well then, per your own remarks, the observations and perceptions aren't wrong now are they?
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Why I enjoy the kids time more as it isn't that fault and I play a mean brontasuarus.




Yea man, kids are hella fun. Keeps you young. Brings you back to a time of innocence and genuine joy. It's all the side drama that goes along with them not being your kids.. Baby Daddy issues, etc...

Given the bias, more often than not and sadly, single moms attract jackasses. I'm not saying its right or that they deserve it. But it is what it is.

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It's stupid. I don't get it. Apparently now smart people wait and have maybe a kid eventually. Hopefully there smartness can turn biology off.




The world has too many people already. As opposed to common belief, we were put here to ride the rides and reproduce like jack rabbits. In the modern age of technology and scientific exploration, there are many fulfilling opportunities available for adults to contribute life long changes to the landscape of the world.

Kids serve as a canvas that allows aging adults the ability to leave their imprint on something that will out last them. Parents take steps back, observe the ways they are reflected in the painting and take pleasure in that. Modern societies have come to realize there are other forms of the same thing, times are tough economically, and the world already has enough people. Thus, people who are aware of this don't go rushing out having kids.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23852060 - 11/20/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I cant seem to copy the hormone debate.  But the jist was were hard wired of both seres. I completely agree. I did try a trans female. The smell was all wrong. I could barely keep hard.

She did get in touch with me and I love her but it was more I wanted to hook up with her hot Asian friend. Who is female. Damn she looks hot in her mini skirts she always wears in winter. Eating pussy is one of my favorite memories I did it for most of a day. The pheromones are intoxicating.

I do have a new found respect for head though. It's definitely hard the funniest thing she said to me was. "stop scraping your teeth"  which was the same exact thing I told my first head giver. Way back in the day. I bust into laughter.

Damn I own a dick and I can't even give decent head. For shame. :lol:






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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: phio]
    #23852081 - 11/20/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think it has too many people already. We can theorize about all of this all day. But do we really know what's best. Not really that's why we are still arguing about it.

In a 1000 years we'll still be arguing about similar topics.


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    #23852088 - 11/20/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I am in my 60's  'I have never been married  .
I have had a half dozen long term live in lady partners .. over last 45 years .

I would never get married  .. all of my guy friends have great relationships with there girl friends ......tell they get married then

Instantly the insanity begins .
Then those poor bastards suffer tell they get ditched and ....
....she takes most of his stuff ....

Now if you  cohabitate you will have a  great loving  relationship  for two  to  6 years .

Then the woman insanity creeps in .

Women  thrive on conflict and they create all kinds of delusional stuff to be pissed off about .

I mean really they can always prove your WRONG  and an ASS HOLE ...

If they interrupt every sentence you say and finish it with something they can be pissed off about, that has nothing to do with what you were going to say .

So when this abuse starts I leave and.....

"""""I get to keep my stuff.""""""" 

I WIN !

But who I really feel sorry for are  a womans other woman friends ,

women are really back stabbing  nasty to there so called women BFFs


Lesbians  must go threw a special kind of HELL !


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    #23852091 - 11/20/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't see what computers have to do with anything.




I think he's talking about how the roles of men have changed largely as advancements in society have become more and more intellectual.

Before in early human history it used to be that we needed dominant and aggressive males for the human species to survive, but in today's world we need civilized and cordial human beings for advancement.

It's funny how traditional masculinity is completely anti-intellectual in nature, and I think tyrannicalrex is saying we need to challenge this notion because this ultimately hurts men in the long run.




Males have natures and predispositions.
Females have natures and predispositions.
There are outliers among males and females who don't fall under observed norms.

Both observed norms and outliers are fine and should be accepted. By the early 2000s, this was understood and embraced. Somehow this got turned into a cluster-fuck of confusion disorder and bashing of norms  by the mid 2000s. The roles of males haven't changed all that much. The expectation is still there if conditions present themselves.

Women are very good at saying what they want which is one thing but in the heat of the moment switching to something else.. A perfect example is when a woman declares she wants a compassionate understanding and non-dominant man but then goes and calls him a pussy whose she's tired of while jumping off to a dominant man who reminds her of what it is to be a woman.

With prosperity or the illusion of prosperity people went on to create new problems that didn't exist before and that's just human nature.

Women still value dominant and aggressive males and testosterone predisposes males naturally towards it just as estrogen predisposes women to nurture. Shoot yourself full of some testosterone and see how it magically changes your perception and predisposition? The social joke was that you can somehow override these predisposition with social engineering. You can only subdue them and nature eventually wins out.

civilized and cordial human beings for advancement are products of prosperity and are a luxury. With changing economic realities, many will see how quickly these social priorities can change.


Traditional masculinity is quite intellectual. Looking around at all of the constructions, technology, and science developed under it is a clear demonstration of that fact.

What is damaging is when its not nurtured towards harmonious ends which is the role of women in a society. Guess what happens when no ones nurturing or guiding the world's offspring.. You get the silly ass confused world we have right now.

Yet it is par for the course to ignore all of man's contributions to the world that every uses on a day to day basis, call male behavior intellectual, and act as though thousands of years of progress to this point occurred to Tyranical knuckle draggers.

We can build an amazing world together as male/female or we can destroy it.
Pitting women against men is a divisive and destructive anti-intellectual theme that permeated society for nothing more than to create profit from chaos and confusion.

If a true battle were to occur between the sexes w/o leniancy, one only need look at the tragic history of the human species for what happens when men war with each other. If women ever thought they were going to win that battle, the social psyche of women must have really gotten twisted.

So, lets live together in harmony and embrace our differences instead of being ass-clowns about them.




I still think this was the best post in the thread. Great thread overall lots of good arguments.


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    #23852100 - 11/20/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah there are no women I have met that I would let my guard down around.  I have been told by men I highly respect never get married.  They don't say it like a joke either, and I don't take it lightly.  The young ones all tell me "oh no don't listen to them it is good for you" but I am nobody's fool.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23852130 - 11/20/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't think it has too many people already. We can theorize about all of this all day. But do we really know what's best. Not really that's why we are still arguing about it.

In a 1000 years we'll still be arguing about similar topics.




There's applied theory. There's always that.
Under the framework that were not here to just ride the rides and reproduce like jack rabbits, i'm not sure sure about what lies 1000 years out....

In a casual world, there is cause/effect. Setting upon something results in something.
Once you learn more about the world and universe, things aren't so theoretical.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: phio]
    #23852158 - 11/20/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Men that get married today are suckers, I wouldn't touch that institution with a ten foot pole.

I have seen a lot of idealistic men learn very hard lessons, they never had a chance.


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    #23852196 - 11/20/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Finally I find some common ground with qman.  Thought I would never see the day.  Lets make out.


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    #23852211 - 11/20/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You have to marry the right person for the right reasons. The government shouldn't be involved but that's neither here nor there.


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    #23852245 - 11/20/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That's a fair argument, thank you for explaining. You don't have to be so patronizing about it though. I understand though, you're much more of a left brained person than I am (so it seems.)

To elaborate on my own opinion, I find hormonal birth control for women to be entirely over prescribed and doctors allow women to suffer the side effects if the woman elects to. It's been more recently discovered to lower bone density when women are already prone to develop osteoporosis in their lifetime. Not only is it over prescribed but the majority of women that get on it don't even entirely understand the risks and side effects. It goes alot farther than just "might gain wait and acne" ...but then this is delving into healthcare rather than medical science so that's a whole nother topic.


I really just want science to work harder at finding better alternatives rather than altering the human body. In Rome there was a plant that made people temporarily infertile (at least it is believed to, it was so successful as a birth control method that the plant was over consumed into extinction.) Might be a little biased since BC gave me unbearable side effects but I feel like we came to the pill and depo shots and then said "problem solved :smile:" for the most part. And that annoys me.


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    #23852251 - 11/20/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah there are no women I have met that I would let my guard down around.  I have been told by men I highly respect never get married.  They don't say it like a joke either, and I don't take it lightly.  The young ones all tell me "oh no don't listen to them it is good for you" but I am nobody's fool.




It really depends. I had this girly we did kiss she had 2 kids. He's worthless the stay at home dad and his mom living off her. She was working harder hours than me. We actually got fired because we lived right next to each other and walked to work together.

It was a new Dennys that opened in town. He sat us both down and in insulted her as she had a gap in her front teeth. I was in shock I really wish I would have recorded it. All the girls and no males that lasted were the ones I listed in hot want to fuck. Family fine friends are never bad to have.

I couldn't believe it. I honestly couldn't say anything as I've never met someone that was that much of a perv. Firing me would be fine but her because we're friends. Disgusting.

My mom worked there 30 years of ex
perience. She lasted 2 weeks all the hot girls kept the jobs that are inept.  But I would have fucked them. :shrug:

Well I'd pay them. Those managers know nothing about running a restaurant. We'll quite a few after they got in touch me ya you're right it's disgusting.

I mean at restaurants one I worked at for 4 years I always hit on the cute hostesses. I was a young kid though they made a rule no talking at the hostess stand for bussers. Bah as a Pervy 40 year old dude hits on them.

Anyway I got 5 seconds to pretend to get something. Whatsup tonight where's the party at. I actually think that weird older Pervy shit got me laid more. :lol: I can't be worse than that.

Extreme sides of both sides of the coin. Can't lie I loved the Pervy old dudes that hired the hostesses I became friends with a lot of them. They have good taste.

One was a veterinarian to be. My dog died of cancer.  :cry: and she's been apart of my life for 6 years as she was my vet friend. My little puppy shat worms all squiggling and fully alivemy out worms.

So tall and man she shat every girl under the table that Halloween. And  they were all dime pieces come to think of it thank you bosses.

That's besides the point I'm getting distracted . What do I do. So I texted her. She just said no worries he has worms which isn't incommon. Think was squirming fully alive Bah! She was a savior I think she's a full vet now or damn near close.

She sent me a message after my dog died of cancer. I'm glad to have known loki and provided you with vet thoughts. He was my first patient. I'm sorry for your loss. You can always ask me about such things.

I don't really think any of this thread had to do with vets or dogs but it may have. Nah pretty girls. I totally forgot what this this thread was about reminiscing.


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    #23852264 - 11/20/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I would take your mom any day over those hot girls.  I never can really find the right words to tell ugly girls how much they mean to me, but I'm still not going to marry them.


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    #23852667 - 11/20/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I like how you selectively ignore what you don't want to hear ...
"such as occurs in women, whether on a hormonal contraceptive or not,""

Women are already predisposed to such cyclical swings regardless of whether or not they are on contraceptives. Please read. I don't have anything I need to look up as I clearly understand the biological and behavioral differences between males and females. You seem to be in denial about proven science.




Sorry but your explanation that all differences in logic, thought, and emotion all stems back to hormones is too overly simplistic. You're essentially saying that people don't have individual personalities, or that we aren't products of our environment, that it all comes down to hormone level and that's it.

I will agree hormones can affect energy levels, mood, etc. Like I said, I've been on testosterone before, I've also been on estrogen & progesterone and spironolactone  (an androgen suppressor) at other points of my life. It did affect my energy levels a lot, I was sleepy all the time on the androgen suppressors, that one affected me the worst. But my thinking or behavior otherwise didn't change. Personality overrides hormone fluctuations.

Not only that, but a lot of these hormone levels are established while the baby is in the womb. And each pregnancy can change drastically. Hence why you have scientists speculating that transgender or homosexual boys may have been exposed to higher amounts of estrogen during the pregnancy.

Theoretically, pregnant women who are carrying boys should have higher sex drives and bad acne, due to the fact that they're producing higheamounts of testosterone. But if you actually read the experiences of pregnant women, you'll find that a lot of them experience the opposite effect while carrying boys. So, people not only react differently to hormones, the levels of hormones we are exposed to prenatally fluctuates and differs a lot from individual to individual.

Biologically there are 2 (maybe 3 if you count intersex?) sexes. But instead of thinking about gender in binaries, I like to think outside the box and think about it as a range or scale. Just like how there are varying degrees of homosexuality and heterosexuality, there are varying degrees of femininity and masculinity, with some people being very butch or androgynous or effeminate or whatever.


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    #23852721 - 11/20/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I would take your mom any day over those hot girls.  I never can really find the right words to tell ugly girls how much they mean to me, but I'm still not going to marry them.




Trust me I want her to find a man. She's getting some solid dick she stops being a dick. The first guy was a guy she spent with the night before. Walked into there work and murdered their boss. Shot her 6 times. That fucked ma up real quick.

The most recent one there aren't really many requirements. If they can hold a decent conversation and shake my hand like a man. I don't care.


He shook my hand made my Ma happy. Than married a 20 year old that cheated on him with everybody and took all his money. Heartbroken. MA has had a bad string of luck. Judging from your posts I'd either kick you in the nuts or most likely that.


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    #23852746 - 11/20/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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That's a fair argument, thank you for explaining. You don't have to be so patronizing about it though. I understand though, you're much more of a left brained person than I am (so it seems.)





I'm only delivering information per observation and observed tones. As for my brain hemisphere dominance, I allow whichever hemisphere to dominate that is most effective at resolving a particular issue. We were speaking about science. Left brain can parse that better.

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To elaborate on my own opinion, I find hormonal birth control for women to be entirely over prescribed and doctors allow women to suffer the side effects if the woman elects to. It's been more recently discovered to lower bone density when women are already prone to develop osteoporosis in their lifetime. Not only is it over prescribed but the majority of women that get on it don't even entirely understand the risks and side effects. It goes alot farther than just "might gain wait and acne" ...but then this is delving into healthcare rather than medical science so that's a whole nother topic.




It isn't a whole other topic. You're communicating information that would more commonly be known by women. Thank you for sharing that with me. I'm not a fan of it getting pushed onto women and have supported people I have dated in the past who have indicated that it has caused them serious problems. When you're with someone whose loving and understanding, they wouldn't want such harm to come to you over a precautionary measure that they can resolve by using condoms and spermicide perhaps. You sit down with your partner and have a conversation with them about these kinds of things and you work it out. I was only trying to point out that birth control is based on a derivative of female hormones. If heightening it in women causes serious issues, it most surely will wreak havoc on men whose body's are even moreso sensitive to it which is why the study was shut down.


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I really just want science to work harder at finding better alternatives rather than altering the human body. In Rome there was a plant that made people temporarily infertile (at least it is believed to, it was so successful as a birth control method that the plant was over consumed into extinction.) Might be a little biased since BC gave me unbearable side effects but I feel like we came to the pill and depo shots and then said "problem solved :smile:" for the most part. And that annoys me.




I'm 100% with you on that. Most medicine is pseudo-science and correlation. Not enough time or money is spent on understanding the body purely for understanding. Medicine is a huge and profitable business. Much of it isn't really meant to solve a problem. It's meant to blanket over it and in doing so it floods and impacts other parts of the body beyond the target in detrimental ways. I personally avoid it at all costs if I can and I most definitely would support a partner in maintaining such a view.

You have a right to be upset. It's your body after-all. Imbalances aren't good for anyone even if its a native hormone. Yep, drug companies are lazy. Most medicines are just synthesized versions of naturally occurring substances many times missing important components that keep it balanced. Then comes the pricing of it all for something that costs a couple dollars to make.

It's a cluster fuck. I agree and glad we could see eye to eye on something.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Crystal G]
    #23852776 - 11/20/16 09:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Sorry but your explanation that all differences in logic, thought, and emotion all stems back to hormones is too overly simplistic. You're essentially saying that people don't have individual personalities, or that we aren't products of our environment, that it all comes down to hormone level and that's it.





I'm not saying that. There's nature and nurture. I talked about nature. Nature predisposes you. Through personal choice, environmental variables, social norms, culture, etc there is a near infinite degree of freedom from there. However, that doesn't change nature. Close your eyes and picture a three with a trunk and roots, branches and leaves...

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I will agree hormones can affect energy levels, mood, etc. Like I said, I've been on testosterone before, I've also been on estrogen & progesterone and spironolactone  (an androgen suppressor) at other points of my life. It did affect my energy levels a lot, I was sleepy all the time on the androgen suppressors, that one affected me the worst. But my thinking or behavior otherwise didn't change. Personality overrides hormone fluctuations.




You don't have a male's body nor gene expressions nor do you have the same kind of receptor cites or hormones. It's a system. Not all systems have the same level of backward compatibility. Women's body's are able to nurture both female/male life. Male's body's cannot. You have completely different equipment and a level of versatility that male's don't have. Your body's can take a whole range of different conditions that male's body's can't which is related to the cycles you go through. Men's body's don't go through such periodic cycles. In all honesty, a full study on this topic would significantly change your view. I can't really sit here and give you a full lesson on biology and neuroscience up to the PHD level. Suffice to say, there are a huge and vast number of  differences between males and females in just about every cell in your body. You don't turn blind eyes to such clear differences. They exists for reasons and have real-world consequences.

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Not only that, but a lot of these hormone levels are established while the baby is in the womb. And each pregnancy can change drastically. Hence why you have scientists speculating that transgender or homosexual boys may have been exposed to higher amounts of estrogen during the pregnancy.





Sure, there are all sorts of factors. Stress levels of a mother while a child is in the womb can, for instance, impact gene expression in the baby. And yet, there is the male gender and the female gender and there are a vast number of differences between the two. You see... you can't escape that (nature).

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Theoretically, pregnant women who are carrying boys should have higher sex drives and bad acne, due to the fact that they're producing higheamounts of testosterone. But if you actually read the experiences of pregnant women, you'll find that a lot of them experience the opposite effect while carrying boys. So, people not only react differently to hormones, the levels of hormones we are exposed to prenatally fluctuates and differs a lot from individual to individual.




Sure, there are tons and tons of studies and reports on the matter. Suffice to say, males can't carry children and there are genetic markers and expressions that determine that. Males and females aren't the same. We are different and equal and that's fine. Not everyone has the same chemical balance or gene expressions. Not all males have the same testosterone levels. Not all females have the same estrogen levels. Essentially, I'm not trying to, in my discussion put anyone in a box. I'm just pointing out that there are an endless number of differences between males and females and there are many studies that reflect how these difference have direct influences on even neurological function. So, there is no point in arguing that males and females don't have fundamental different dispositions set by nature.

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Biologically there are 2 (maybe 3 if you count intersex?) sexes. But instead of thinking about gender in binaries, I like to think outside the box and think about it as a range or scale. Just like how there are varying degrees of homosexuality and heterosexuality, there are varying degrees of femininity and masculinity, with some people being very butch or androgynous or effeminate or whatever.



In the Human species, there are only 2 sexes : male/female and only one type of sexuality that produces offspring. The union of male/female. Now, that's the biology, science, and nature.

As for behavior or sociology, it's up to an individual to fine tune their own dial. I'm quite alright with acknowledge the freedoms an individual should have in that way. However, I am not ok with populist confusion when it comes to the biology, sciences, and nature. That's when you get a bunch of confused impressionable kids. That is wholesale chaos.

So, fine tune however you want and society should be accepting of such diversities. Promoting chaos, confusion, and foolishness especially among innocent and already confused kids I am not for and that's what we got more. It is the reason why we have such a clown ass situation currently in America with all of the precious snowflakes who can't reason and understand basic things and people who have no foundational basis for who they are from one day to another.

Related to the topic of the OP, third wave feminism is another foolish spinoff of the sociological chaos that was spawned over recent years. Women aren't men and never will be and that's ok. Women are beautiful, amazing, and powerful in their own skin and they play a vital role w.r.t to harmony in this world. By abandoning that, utters chaos is created. We have enough males an male related problems in the world. We don't need even more yang, fighting, and warring... But look what we got.

So, it's no wonder why some people opt'd out in their own way. I personally had to learn no matter how much effort I put in that I can't participate in relationships with people who have their brains twisted up in movements like this. It's too distracting for me as a man as I have my own battles to wage in life. I can't be busying myself battling my partner and explaining myself every step of the way. Nor do I want to.

I needed instead a woman who is comfortable in her own skin and proud to be a woman so that I can journey through life with her as a man.

That's what all of this is about. How people got twisted up into some other narrative .. Well, it's just not my personal business anymore. I've wasted enough of my life trying to reach people who can't be reached.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: phio]
    #23852795 - 11/20/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

MGTOW is full of a bunch of testosterone-less beta males that failed at attracting woman so they'd rather watch porn and play video games instead.

Although I do believe men get totally fucked when it comes to marriage.

I still plan on getting married and would much prefer a traditional marriage with a wife who is a stay at home mom. Men are pretty equally to blame when it comes to divorce rates. I am a firm believer that a if a chick leaves you, you obviously had a huge part in it. To say otherwise seems absurd to me. Woman don't just up and leave for no reason.


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    #23852824 - 11/20/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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MGTOW is full of a bunch of testosterone-less beta males that failed at attracting woman so they'd rather watch porn and play video games instead.

Although I do believe men get totally fucked when it comes to marriage.

I still plan on getting married and would much prefer a traditional marriage with a wife who is a stay at home mom. Men are pretty equally to blame when it comes to divorce rates. I am a firm believer that a if a chick leaves you, you obviously had a huge part in it. To say otherwise seems absurd to me. Woman don't just up and leave for no reason.




On topics like this, I try to stay away from anecdotes and center instead on wide ranging analysis, experience, and information.

At the end of the day, a general driver for a lot of men is to seek and sustain a beautiful household with a woman. You suggest they're beta males who can't get women but then we have women here attesting to there being a modern attraction to such guys.. Someone isn't telling the truth as you can see.

Women and men are equal halves of the same whole. So we indeed play equal parts.
However, yang like waring is not fitting of women. This occurred moreso in recent years.
I wouldn't call men opting out of such a foolish fight as being 'beta'. The preoccupation with such foolishness can serve to undermine the very essence of what it is to be a more fully defined man with purpose (beyond silly ass concepts like alpha/beta)..


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: phio]
    #23852951 - 11/20/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You don't have a male's body nor gene expressions nor do you have the same kind of receptor cites or hormones. It's a system. Not all systems have the same level of backward compatibility. Women's body's are able to nurture both female/male life. Male's body's cannot. You have completely different equipment and a level of versatility that male's don't have. Your body's can take a whole range of different conditions that male's body's can't which is related to the cycles you go through. Men's body's don't go through such periodic cycles. In all honesty, a full study on this topic would significantly change your view. I can't really sit here and give you a full lesson on biology and neuroscience up to the PHD level. Suffice to say, there are a huge and vast number of  differences between males and females in just about every cell in your body. You don't turn blind eyes to such clear differences. They exists for reasons and have real-world consequences.




That's all stuff that I agree with, I mean it is undeniable that men and women physiologically have different bodies and anatomical structures. I never claimed men and women have no biological differences.

I'm not the kind of person that believes that men and women should compete against each other in boxing or in sports, because clearly men have a distinct advantage when it comes to certain physical activities, especially high-intensity activities involving brute strength of the upper body. Women have an advantage in a different kind of physical activity, such as gymnastics or anything requiring flexibility.

The part that I disagreed with was how intensely or drastically these differences impact one's psyche. It is most definitely a factor, but it is only one factor out of hundreds of others. And frankly, after my personal experience experimenting with hormones, I don't think hormones play that strong of a factor in psychological changes.

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In the Human species, there are only 2 sexes : male/female and only one type of sexuality that produces offspring. The union of male/female. Now, that's the biology, science, and nature.




Isn't intersex biologically considered another sex? Because I went to school with somebody that was born a hermaphrodite, with an XXY chromosome and both genitals.


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    #23852958 - 11/20/16 11:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone else notice their logo looks like a dude with an ass for a face?




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    #23852979 - 11/20/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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MGTOW is full of a bunch of testosterone-less beta males that failed at attracting woman so they'd rather watch porn and play video games instead.

Although I do believe men get totally fucked when it comes to marriage.

I still plan on getting married and would much prefer a traditional marriage with a wife who is a stay at home mom. Men are pretty equally to blame when it comes to divorce rates. I am a firm believer that a if a chick leaves you, you obviously had a huge part in it. To say otherwise seems absurd to me. Woman don't just up and leave for no reason.




On topics like this, I try to stay away from anecdotes and center instead on wide ranging analysis, experience, and information.

At the end of the day, a general driver for a lot of men is to seek and sustain a beautiful household with a woman. You suggest they're beta males who can't get women but then we have women here attesting to there being a modern attraction to such guys.. Someone isn't telling the truth as you can see.

Women and men are equal halves of the same whole. So we indeed play equal parts.
However, yang like waring is not fitting of women. This occurred moreso in recent years.
I wouldn't call men opting out of such a foolish fight as being 'beta'. The preoccupation with such foolishness can serve to undermine the very essence of what it is to be a more fully defined man with purpose (beyond silly ass concepts like alpha/beta)..



YI definitely understand your point on this. My personal anecdotal experience is all I have when it comes to this topic and I may very well be wrong about the generalization I make and I'm not opposed to keeping an open mind about it. I definitely sympathize for those who find it viable to "opt-out" and I believe it's important to understand the reasoning behind this. They really shouldn't be written off because it's a serious issue that needs addressing. I use the "alpha/beta" concept for convenience more than anything.


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    #23853015 - 11/21/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, i think were of the same understanding. I just needed to strongly highlight the incredible physical differences and why they're important because it is so common for it to be a jumbled mess now-a-days not so much due to biological traits but social practices.

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Isn't intersex biologically considered another sex? Because I went to school with somebody that was born a hermaphrodite, with an XXY chromosome and both genitals.



Ah'...
http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/basics/karyotype/

A karyotype is an organized profile of a person's chromosomes. Two chromosomes specify gender — XX for female and XY for male. The rest are arranged in pairs, numbered 1 through 22, from largest to smallest. This arrangement helps scientists quickly identify chromosomal alterations that may result in a genetic disorder.

Intersex involves muddling of a karotype in which someone has a mosaic of female/male pairings in different organs (sexual, brain, etc). Some cells/organs/tissue can carry a male karotype while others can carry a female karotype.  There are also : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(genetics) .

Hermaphodites relate to Karyotype mosaics ..
In about 90% of cases, patients have 46 XX karyotype. Rarely, 46 XY/46 XX mosaicism may occur. There have been reports of 46 XY karyotypes

Intersex is the new term for hermaphoditsm now that we understand more about it :
https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/001669.htm

I drew very definitive lines so as to not allow things to get muddled. The purely biological field of intersex even has trouble with people who fall into these grey areas as you still see the language of 'male/female cell' or
'male/female' organ used.

Understanding the biological and scientific basis for variance beyond strictly male/female archetypes definitely tempers ones attitude on the topic w.r.t to observations about social norms. However, it is still necessary to understand the rarity of these biological cases. That being said, there is a whole spectrum of hormonal balances as well and these balances influence and predispose behavior.

Nature : Huge spectrum
Nurture/Environment/Personal choice : Huge spectrum

Further, it is always important to note when you have an observable sliding scale what it is sliding too and from :  (more normalized and strictly male/female extremes). By doing so you can appreciate the norms/extremes of male/female and everything in between.

W.r.t to sex though.. you either impregnate or get impregnated for sexual reproduction.

Thanks for sharing this with me Crystal G.
Your provided view points that definitely helped temper this discussion.


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MGTOW is full of a bunch of testosterone-less beta males that failed at attracting woman so they'd rather watch porn and play video games instead.

Although I do believe men get totally fucked when it comes to marriage.

I still plan on getting married and would much prefer a traditional marriage with a wife who is a stay at home mom. Men are pretty equally to blame when it comes to divorce rates. I am a firm believer that a if a chick leaves you, you obviously had a huge part in it. To say otherwise seems absurd to me. Woman don't just up and leave for no reason.




On topics like this, I try to stay away from anecdotes and center instead on wide ranging analysis, experience, and information.

At the end of the day, a general driver for a lot of men is to seek and sustain a beautiful household with a woman. You suggest they're beta males who can't get women but then we have women here attesting to there being a modern attraction to such guys.. Someone isn't telling the truth as you can see.

Women and men are equal halves of the same whole. So we indeed play equal parts.
However, yang like waring is not fitting of women. This occurred moreso in recent years.
I wouldn't call men opting out of such a foolish fight as being 'beta'. The preoccupation with such foolishness can serve to undermine the very essence of what it is to be a more fully defined man with purpose (beyond silly ass concepts like alpha/beta)..



YI definitely understand your point on this. My personal anecdotal experience is all I have when it comes to this topic and I may very well be wrong about the generalization I make and I'm not opposed to keeping an open mind about it. I definitely sympathize for those who find it viable to "opt-out" and I believe it's important to understand the reasoning behind this. They really shouldn't be written off because it's a serious issue that needs addressing. I use the "alpha/beta" concept for convenience more than anything.





Fair enough and true enough.. We are all better off working together not against each other or running off our own way. Many great viewpoints were provided from all sorts of perspectives on this thread. I was only attempting the illuminate what got this movement going. Lots of divisive movements gained steam in recent times. I hope, for humanity's sake, that they are coming to a close.


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    #23853041 - 11/21/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Anyone else notice their logo looks like a dude with an ass for a face?




Pretty revealing




You may note the arrow coming out of the butthole, a long shaft with a broad tip

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    #23853047 - 11/21/16 12:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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W.r.t to sex though.. you either impregnate or get impregnated for sexual reproduction.

Thanks for sharing this with me Crystal G.
Your provided view points definitely helped temper this discussion.




No worries.

As far as I understand it though, people with the XXY chromosome are born infertile and can neither impregnate nor get pregnant. Kind of like when a donkey mates with a horse, the offspring is usually sterile.

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Understanding the biological and scientific basis for variance beyond strictly male/female archetypes definitely tempers ones attitude on the topic w.r.t to observations about social norms. However, it is still necessary to understand the rarity of these biological cases. That being said, there is a whole spectrum of hormonal balances as well and these balances influence and predispose behavior.




What do you think of the theory proposed and popularized in the 1980's that asserted that the reason the overwhelming majority of violent crime is committed by males is largely because of testosterone? Because this is a theory that usually offends MRA's and MGTOW's, they say that it is condescending to men to even imply such a thing. They claim this is a very anti-male, pro-feminist theory.


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    #23853053 - 11/21/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Who cares about anything that happened in the 1980s at this point?  They didn't even have the internet.  It's just a pre-internet dark age of human history.  The 1980s as a whole is worse than racism, rape, murder, and bigotry in every way.  What a bunch of dumb heathens.  Dirty filthy people that just rolled around in the mud and smoked insecticide to get high.  Real fucking winners, those 1980s neanderthals.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23853287 - 11/21/16 04:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

And did you see the clothing people used to wear in the 80s. :lol:


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: abltsandwich] * 3
    #23853301 - 11/21/16 04:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Who cares about anything that happened in the 1980s at this point?  They didn't even have the internet.  It's just a pre-internet dark age of human history.  The 1980s as a whole is worse than racism, rape, murder, and bigotry in every way.  What a bunch of dumb heathens.  Dirty filthy people that just rolled around in the mud and smoked insecticide to get high.  Real fucking winners, those 1980s neanderthals.



Careful, I was a youngster in the 80s and it was a magical time.
"They didn't even have the internet"???? 
No we had these rectangular things called books fucko.  We went outside, used our imaginations, no cops in schools, kids got spanked and were respectful towards elders.  We rode our bicycles everywhere.  No cell phones, we had payphones and knew where to meet our friends.  We were forced to actually be creative and conversational, everyone was not staring at the phone 75% of the day. Nintendo was the shit.  Nobody got picked on over clothes.  Saturday mornings were filled with sweet cereal and real cartoons.  People still sat down as family's and ate together, McDonalds was a treat, not a lifestyle.
You guys have NO idea what you missed out on, I actually feel sorry for people born after 1990.
Blasphemous millennials have no clue what a great childhood is.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23853304 - 11/21/16 05:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Saturday mornings were filled with sweet cereal and real cartoons




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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23853310 - 11/21/16 05:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hey man early 90's was pretty good. I did all of that stuff. It wasn't really until like 10 ish that we even had a computer.

Friends and I built forts and shit growing up in the valley of Alaska. We had dirt bikes and shit. I remember just doing whatever I really wanted or however far a buck in gas would get me.  :lol:

What's with the new TV lookity box? It's not a TV it's a computer. You can get on the Internet. I've been addicted to the Internet and looking at hot girls ever since. :lol:


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23853325 - 11/21/16 05:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey man early 90's was pretty good. I did all of that stuff. It wasn't really until like 10 ish that we even had a computer.

Friends and I built forts and shit growing up in the valley of Alaska. We had dirt bikes and shit. I remember just doing whatever I really wanted or however far a buck in gas would get me.  :lol:

What's with the new TV lookity box? It's not a TV it's a computer. You can get on the Internet. I've been addicted to the Internet and looking at hot girls ever since. :lol:



Hehehe
I was about perfect age for internet when we first got real internet.  I remember the dial up and connecting to BBS in late 80s early 90s or so, we spent like 1200 bucks on a 286e.  I learned programming on the apple computers of old lol such fun.
I am VERY jealous of you in Alaska, I spent most of my childhood in SE MN romping the Whitewater State Forests, many forts were built indeed. 
Don't get me wrong, some of my closest pals are millennials, I love them dearly and we trade information (me teaching old skool tricks, them helping me figure out new tech :grin:)
I am as guilty as the next Dick of abusing my phone and the web, it's all the knowledge of the world in your hand, so awesome!
I just get perturbed when someone born in 1995 tells me the 80s sucked, if only they knew.  Being in my teens in the 90s was also a treat, the world was changing, LSD for a buck a hit everywhere, Grateful Dead was still touring.
I try not to knock the people who are just a little older than me, but not quite my parents age, the people who were teens in the 80s.  I think most of them are really strange, but hey, hair bands, too much blow and sensationalism will do that lol.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23853634 - 11/21/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah OP you might as well just avoid labeling yourself like that because most people are just gonna lump you in with the losers that come to mind when "MGTOW" is mentioned. Also, it does seem that women aren't as loyal as they used to be but that doesn't mean you can't find any good ones still. Drop that label dude.




They were never loyal to begin with. It started in the garden of Eden and the legacy of shame has lasted until today. A couple generations ago, women were just way more submissive because of personal rights or not as many options, and were ultimately afraid of societal out-casting or negative impact.

Now that women are empowered... well... you already know the story.



I can never take you seriously again.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: cube talk]
    #23853724 - 11/21/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I never said "There is no God".
EVER, search every post I ever made.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23854048 - 11/21/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The 80's were my 60's! I was 15 in 1980.:grin: It was another 60's like time actually if you go and read about what the world was doing. Desert Storm was another vietnam, they were talking of a draft etc...I was born in 65.:grin:


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #23854187 - 11/21/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The 80's were my 60's! I was 15 in 1980.:grin: It was another 60's like time actually if you go and read about what the world was doing. Desert Storm was another vietnam, they were talking of a draft etc...I was born in 65.:grin:



Hahaha, you ARE one of those 80s weirdos!
I kid......I kid
I'd have loved to eat some legal mdma.
The 90s were my 60s, lame as it may sound.  I guess we all see the glory years through rose lenses aye?
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: A.RichardTrickle] * 1
    #23854208 - 11/21/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I know what you mean by my age group being "weirdos". We are in between the boomers and millennials. It produced a certain mindset and way of being. It was another sort of revolutionary time like the 50's and 60's. I'm going to boldly state there won't be another time like the 60's-80's ever. Those 30 years are very special (not in a snowflake sense, LOL). :grin:


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #23854352 - 11/21/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Did you listen to Joy Division and fight skinheads at dismal squat parties?


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    #23854988 - 11/21/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

LOL, maybe, I did see the butthole surfers at a small venue and the red laced boot skinheads were there elbowing the fuck out of everyone in the pit, I stayed out of it, the  (punk/techno/slam/moshpit/etc.) scene got viscous around the late 80's early 90's it seems. I was in Deep Ellum in Dallas and it was a very unique time for live music (smaller venues/clubs) in that place. I miss it. Glad I could experience it though.:grin: Also saw the mighty mighhty boss tones in a small venue, the only time I ever crowd surfed and did a stage dive/flip. It was fucking awesome! Talk about putting your trust in strangers!


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23855072 - 11/21/16 05:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey man early 90's was pretty good. I did all of that stuff. It wasn't really until like 10 ish that we even had a computer.

Friends and I built forts and shit growing up in the valley of Alaska. We had dirt bikes and shit. I remember just doing whatever I really wanted or however far a buck in gas would get me.  :lol:

What's with the new TV lookity box? It's not a TV it's a computer. You can get on the Internet. I've been addicted to the Internet and looking at hot girls ever since. :lol:



Hehehe
I was about perfect age for internet when we first got real internet.  I remember the dial up and connecting to BBS in late 80s early 90s or so, we spent like 1200 bucks on a 286e.  I learned programming on the apple computers of old lol such fun.
I am VERY jealous of you in Alaska, I spent most of my childhood in SE MN romping the Whitewater State Forests, many forts were built indeed. 
Don't get me wrong, some of my closest pals are millennials, I love them dearly and we trade information (me teaching old skool tricks, them helping me figure out new tech :grin:)
I am as guilty as the next Dick of abusing my phone and the web, it's all the knowledge of the world in your hand, so awesome!
I just get perturbed when someone born in 1995 tells me the 80s sucked, if only they knew.  Being in my teens in the 90s was also a treat, the world was changing, LSD for a buck a hit everywhere, Grateful Dead was still touring.
I try not to knock the people who are just a little older than me, but not quite my parents age, the people who were teens in the 80s.  I think most of them are really strange, but hey, hair bands, too much blow and sensationalism will do that lol.
Have a great day EW!
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Yep. In 3rd grade we had typing class. I got an award there was a list of fastest typers. I beat out the 5th and 6th graders to get the championship. 82 wpm.

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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23855268 - 11/21/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Who cares about anything that happened in the 1980s at this point?  They didn't even have the internet.  It's just a pre-internet dark age of human history.  The 1980s as a whole is worse than racism, rape, murder, and bigotry in every way.  What a bunch of dumb heathens.  Dirty filthy people that just rolled around in the mud and smoked insecticide to get high.  Real fucking winners, those 1980s neanderthals.



Careful, I was a youngster in the 80s and it was a magical time.
"They didn't even have the internet"???? 
No we had these rectangular things called books fucko.




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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23855969 - 11/21/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Love ya cookie!
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23856187 - 11/22/16 02:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Who cares about anything that happened in the 1980s at this point?  They didn't even have the internet.  It's just a pre-internet dark age of human history.  The 1980s as a whole is worse than racism, rape, murder, and bigotry in every way.  What a bunch of dumb heathens.  Dirty filthy people that just rolled around in the mud and smoked insecticide to get high.  Real fucking winners, those 1980s neanderthals.



Careful, I was a youngster in the 80s and it was a magical time.
"They didn't even have the internet"???? 
No we had these rectangular things called books fucko.  We went outside, used our imaginations, no cops in schools, kids got spanked and were respectful towards elders.  We rode our bicycles everywhere.  No cell phones, we had payphones and knew where to meet our friends.  We were forced to actually be creative and conversational, everyone was not staring at the phone 75% of the day. Nintendo was the shit.  Nobody got picked on over clothes.  Saturday mornings were filled with sweet cereal and real cartoons.  People still sat down as family's and ate together, McDonalds was a treat, not a lifestyle.
You guys have NO idea what you missed out on, I actually feel sorry for people born after 1990.
Blasphemous millennials have no clue what a great childhood is.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Shroomism]
    #23856206 - 11/22/16 03:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

mfw we built a treehouse in 2008 and now use it for tripping


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: PsychoReactive] * 1
    #23966187 - 12/29/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Shiithead]
    #23966210 - 12/29/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Eminence]
    #23966267 - 12/29/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I just looked up mgtow and I gotta say that's pretty fucking pathetic.
Oh you poor boys, society's really given you the middle finger huh? :lol:


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    #23966282 - 12/29/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

What did you think of the video I posted Sara?


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Shiithead]
    #23966285 - 12/29/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I can't watch a video at the moment but I'll get back to you on it for sure.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Shiithead]
    #23966303 - 12/29/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

She is assuming that all boys will grow up to marry, and marry women at that! She seems like a gay hater and such that goes along with that. I agree about the recess, but it's a dangerous place outside of schools apparently. Why not have a recess in the gymnasium? IDK really, I didn't have kids and will never have them.:shrug:


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    #23966365 - 12/29/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Work on your body bro.


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    #23966380 - 12/29/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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    #23966392 - 12/29/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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She is assuming that all boys will grow up to marry, and marry women at that! She seems like a gay hater




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    #23966413 - 12/29/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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    #23966481 - 12/29/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'll give her a little credit.  She is only borderline schizophrenic.


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    #23966498 - 12/29/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

And what did she say that you consider so crazy?


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    #23966502 - 12/29/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm sorry I'm in no state for a critique.  I'm just going with my gut here, between us guys.  She is trying to emasculate us on the sly.


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    #23966507 - 12/29/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Doubt it, boys don't need any help with that at all right now.


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    #23966515 - 12/29/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

so the young boys seem kinda girly to you then?


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23966539 - 12/29/16 08:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It's getting more common for males in general to be girly I think.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Eminence] * 1
    #23966548 - 12/29/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So are we to assume that you're finding men more and more attractive, or is it the opposite?


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23966558 - 12/29/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Lol, I'm assuming you must be one of the guys I'm talking about.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Eminence]
    #23966582 - 12/29/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

what are you picturing me wearing?


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Shiithead] * 1
    #23966617 - 12/29/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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What did you think of the video I posted Sara?





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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23966635 - 12/29/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Damn, I was trying to find that picture of you in a bra that you posted in PoP'ers but I guess you deleted it.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Eminence]
    #23967259 - 12/30/16 03:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:aweshit: I don't think I ever posted a pic like that you must be projecting your fantasies onto me.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23967267 - 12/30/16 03:31 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I thin hes confusing your moob hair for a bra



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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23967323 - 12/30/16 05:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

No no, I remember it, you with your hairy stomach all pushed up in the frame with a big bra on, looked like a kiwi wearin glasses. Don't try to play it off now :smirk:


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Eminence]
    #23967430 - 12/30/16 07:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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It's getting more common for males in general to be girly I think.




Yes and it for both sexes. It's unattrctive for women and it's sad for men who see it


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Eminence]
    #23968280 - 12/30/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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No no, I remember it, you with your hairy stomach all pushed up in the frame with a big bra on, looked like a kiwi wearin glasses. Don't try to play it off now :smirk:




Anyone else remember this?  It's not that I wouldn't but I have no recollection.  Pretty sure you're mixing fantasy and reality here.


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23968291 - 12/30/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Because of shit like this

https://imgur.com/gallery/7BlxP/


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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Atreyu]
    #23968336 - 12/30/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

what a derpy chin


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