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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Eminence]
#23851363 - 11/20/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eminence said: So should we just all stop having kids and let the human race just go extinct? I personally appreciate people who have kids and raise them right, even though I don't see myself having any.
Ya I don't really get it. Kids are born in shitty situations so what. My Ma raised 4 of us by herself since I was 10. My brother is going into pre med graduating valedictorian.
My sister 2nd to me has traveled Europe and South America. Speaks 4 languages fluently.
The youngest my other sister plays 5 instruments like there nothing. Incredibly talented.
I'm more or less the fuck up of the family. But I've spent a lot of my time not caring about me protecting them. That was my job and I'm the oldest. They are all incredibly talented. We didn't have grandparents or aunts or uncles. Friends became family. My mom said "I had 4 of you so you would have family"
I graduated top 5% was supposed to do a lot of things. But I needed to help my family. It is what it is. I don't expect anything from them the fact that they're successful is reward enough. I'll always be fine. I work hard and provide for myself and others. Material wealth isn't something I desire.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Enjoywho]
#23851391 - 11/20/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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people are simply ignorant of the extreme existential threat caused by overpopulation. Nobody who had any understanding of the severity of the situation would dream of having more than one child if that.
if we want to destroy the world as we know it in less then 100 years all we need to do is for everyone to have 4 kids. game over.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23851405 - 11/20/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Didn't imply there was anything wrong with that. Just something I noticed. Should all be balanced out though if that's the case. Those women should start learning how to do more of the typical chores men tend to do also.
I absolutely agree, I think a lot of women would love to learn how to change the oil on your car, or how to fix a leaky sink. I often wish I grew up with somebody who could have taught me those things, because then I could save money by being more self-sustaining and self-reliant.
Honestly though even my dad doesn't know how to do those things, he's more of the absent-minded professor type, not the handyman type.
Not only that, but I think when you learn to do things like taking apart car engines and building cabinets and things like that when you're young, your brain becomes naturally better at doing engineering and construction and building things of that nature.
It's not just the father though. There is definitely a brotherhood among men where that sort of secret knowledge is passed around. Don't feel too bad because there are alot of men who are not in on it either. It's like the freemasons only instead of sucking an elder's cock to get your foot in the door you have to spend years getting your hands burnt beaten and crusty, bathing in dirty oil, being constantly reminded how useless you are, learning endlessly redundant jargon, and doing mindless repetitive physical labor for long hours every day year after year.
This is most peoples lives I think. Most people who don't live like pigs anyway.
I was raised with brothers, who bullied me relentlessly, my older brother learned some of this guy stuff but me and my younger brother barely learned shit. (I mean any shit.) I've taught myself to cook and clean and how to change my oil from observation and trial and error. The only thing my younger brother has taught himself is how to make drugs.
Might be biased but I think since he's the baby he could just rely on someone else doing these things. If not there's technology and roombas and microwaves and shit. He never had incentive to teach himself alot of these things.
I still baby him a bit too. Though I'm a bit harder on his lessons that I was. "How do I make tacos" cook the beef and add water and stir in seasoning you ...and then I leave and let him read the instructions... honestly I think cooking is one of the easiest things to teach yourself. There's directions and instructions everywhere. But I suppose it can be overwhelming if you know absolutely nothing about cooking. Most men I know I'd say can cook but never anything complicated.
Anyway, Why do people insist gender roles don't exist? there's at least 4 pages of it here.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Moonshoe]
#23851435 - 11/20/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well that isn't in my lifetime so I'm not worried about it. Hell I'm hardly worried about politics or what happens in the state next to me. I worry about the little piece of the world i live in. My family, friends, and that small piece.
Seems my Ma made the right choice. Why are you so worried about 100 years from now. Nothing is guaranteed. Technology is advancing at an insane rate. I get it I have thoughts about a lot of theoreticals in such topics. But I am by no means an expert on any of it as reading pieces by people who are experts doesn't make you one.
Things are constantly being debunked and reproofed. I think the earth will be fine it naturally adapts. Will we be able to keep up? That's the question.
But not something that I worry about. I'm not qualified to know that answer.
And to new post I make mean tacos. Nom Nom Nom.
And ya my youngest sister. Baby of the family. Complains about a ton of things. She's a fantastic musician. I play music as well and showed her things along the way. But it's such an inconvenience to load a dishwasher.
Ugh wait til you get your first job. Try washing dishes for 8 hours a day. This takes 2 minutes top. Just got back recently and ma's yelling at me "why didn't you organize them and tell them what to do"
"there 18 and 16 practically adults fuck man. I can't really force them to do anything."
They are definitely lazy when it comes to chores but are excelling academically. But there going to get rude wake up calls when they get actual jobs.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Enjoywho]
#23851588 - 11/20/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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but dude that will be in your kids lifetime. so by having kids you are not only dooming the world but also dooming your own kids, which is to say you are having a kid and dropping him into a dying world .
not only is it fucking over the planet but also your own child.
if you have a kid now he will grow up just in time to experience the complete collapse of life on earth. your children will curse you with their dying breath.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23851599 - 11/20/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is most peoples lives I think. Most people who don't live like pigs anyway.
I was raised with brothers, who bullied me relentlessly, my older brother learned some of this guy stuff but me and my younger brother barely learned shit. (I mean any shit.) I've taught myself to cook and clean and how to change my oil from observation and trial and error. The only thing my younger brother has taught himself is how to make drugs.
Might be biased but I think since he's the baby he could just rely on someone else doing these things. If not there's technology and roombas and microwaves and shit. He never had incentive to teach himself alot of these things.
I still baby him a bit too. Though I'm a bit harder on his lessons that I was. "How do I make tacos" cook the beef and add water and stir in seasoning you ...and then I leave and let him read the instructions... honestly I think cooking is one of the easiest things to teach yourself. There's directions and instructions everywhere. But I suppose it can be overwhelming if you know absolutely nothing about cooking. Most men I know I'd say can cook but never anything complicated.
Anyway, Why do people insist gender roles don't exist? there's at least 4 pages of it here.
Well it's not like hard rules, and gender roles are changing, but yeah I can't deny if a qualified female came in and applied to do what I do I would be really surprised. I really don't think any of us have anything to complain about. I used to dream of self reliance and using my wits on my own to make my way, but having tried that I've learned to appreciate having routine that involves family, regular meals, and a warm place to sleep at night.
I think I'm like Dick Trickle described, sort of a hybrid. I wasn't born into a trade, I get along really well with women socially, I don't like sports, and I'm an ardent socialist in a time and place where that isn't really popular among working men. My saving grace is that I'm not a drama queen and where it counts I'm old school. I realize that when you're doing dangerous work you can't call out sick because you don't feel like going to work. The work that I'm not doing is going to get put onto someone else's shoulders, and if someone got hurt when I called out to fuck off I could never forgive myself. That is something you can only learn about a person after working beside them a while, and I feel really lucky to have some other people like that at my job.
Alot of the guys I work with probably wouldn't want to be my friend if we met on the street, and I kinda feel the same, but it sort of becomes a second family. It transcends politics, sexuality, social status, and even gender. What really counts as a man or a woman is that you are there shouldering your burden.
Give your brother time. It took me a while to realize what is important, and I never would have made it without my family sticking by me.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Moonshoe]
#23851615 - 11/20/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: but dude that will be in your kids lifetime. so by having kids you are not only dooming the world but also dooming your own kids, which is to say you are having a kid and dropping him into a dying world .
not only is it fucking over the planet but also your own child.
if you have a kid now he will grow up just in time to experience the complete collapse of life on earth. your children will curse you with their dying breath.
But dude 20 years ago the Internet was just a thing. Going to Mars is in the talks. Nanobot technology I feel like I'm constantly reading things that are fledgling just like dialup Internet in the mid 90's
I think your underselling people by quite a bit. We only have us to bet on. You are a person after all. I don't claim to be an expert. Chill. Everyone was freaking out about oil but shit we have self driving cars. Still testing but whatever. We are very adaptable that's why we've become the dominant species on earth.
The ice caps melting. Sea life activity has gone up 40% the ice caps contain iron which plankton eat. And basically everything eats plankton. They suck up co2. The earth will adapt and we will as well. As long as an asteroid or alien death star dont vaporize us.
It's not all doom and gloom. I focus on the small area I live in. Being a decent person.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23851640 - 11/20/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is most peoples lives I think. Most people who don't live like pigs anyway.
I was raised with brothers, who bullied me relentlessly, my older brother learned some of this guy stuff but me and my younger brother barely learned shit. (I mean any shit.) I've taught myself to cook and clean and how to change my oil from observation and trial and error. The only thing my younger brother has taught himself is how to make drugs.
Might be biased but I think since he's the baby he could just rely on someone else doing these things. If not there's technology and roombas and microwaves and shit. He never had incentive to teach himself alot of these things.
I still baby him a bit too. Though I'm a bit harder on his lessons that I was. "How do I make tacos" cook the beef and add water and stir in seasoning you ...and then I leave and let him read the instructions... honestly I think cooking is one of the easiest things to teach yourself. There's directions and instructions everywhere. But I suppose it can be overwhelming if you know absolutely nothing about cooking. Most men I know I'd say can cook but never anything complicated.
Anyway, Why do people insist gender roles don't exist? there's at least 4 pages of it here.
Well it's not like hard rules, and gender roles are changing, but yeah I can't deny if a qualified female came in and applied to do what I do I would be really surprised. I really don't think any of us have anything to complain about. I used to dream of self reliance and using my wits on my own to make my way, but having tried that I've learned to appreciate having routine that involves family, regular meals, and a warm place to sleep at night.
I think I'm like Dick Trickle described, sort of a hybrid. I wasn't born into a trade, I get along really well with women socially, I don't like sports, and I'm an ardent socialist in a time and place where that isn't really popular among working men. My saving grace is that I'm not a drama queen and where it counts I'm old school. I realize that when you're doing dangerous work you can't call out sick because you don't feel like going to work. The work that I'm not doing is going to get put onto someone else's shoulders, and if someone got hurt when I called out to fuck off I could never forgive myself. That is something you can only learn about a person after working beside them a while, and I feel really lucky to have some other people like that at my job.
Alot of the guys I work with probably wouldn't want to be my friend if we met on the street, and I kinda feel the same, but it sort of becomes a second family. It transcends politics, sexuality, social status, and even gender. What really counts as a man or a woman is that you are there shouldering your burden.
Give your brother time. It took me a while to realize what is important, and I never would have made it without my family sticking by me.
Agreed. And that's why I value people that have different skills than mine. I hate working on cars. Can I do the basics and some intermediate shit I've learned by calling a friend that is more knowledgeable to help absolutely.
It's impossible to know everything. But that's OK you don't have to. When push comes to shove generally people will help you. I can't count how many times I've left my lights on and killed my battery being forgetful. 10 seconds after I ask people coming out of the store hey you got jumpers they will help.
I do the same. Shit happens to me more often than ya know. hop in Where's your car at? It takes 5-10 minutes to help someone out. I've made good friends I occasionally keep in touch with because of it.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Moonshoe]
#23851642 - 11/20/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wouldn't call having kids a selfish choice, I would say my parents were selfless in every way, just that they were pressured by society to procreate.
I'd say that the majority of people out there don't even have kids intentionally or on purpose, but it just happens and they decide to keep them.
If every couple out there limited their spawn to 2 kids in their lifetimes then this world would be more than sustainable and fine. The population would even shrink because the birth rate would be slower than the death rate.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Enjoywho]
#23851645 - 11/20/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Who the fuck woulda thought so much intelligent, socially relevant discourse would erupt in a thread about MGTOW hahaha
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Enjoywho]
#23851653 - 11/20/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah if you are willing to put up with someone giving you a hard time you can get alot out of people. It takes a track record of being unreliable and flaky to get the cold shoulder from most. If I pull over to help someone who's car broke down at 3am on a dead road I'm not going to ask their political affiliation before I decide to help them, because I know it is a pretty safe bet that someone would help me if I was in their shoes.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Enjoywho]
#23851666 - 11/20/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If we bring out reproduction levels to a sustainable, sane level we have a chance. if we continue to reproduce blindly like Idiot rats in a cage we are doomed. it's that simple.
anyone who argues that is part of the problem.
we aren't doomed. we have a chance to save ourselves by using science reason and technology. controlling our reproduction rates to bring down population levels is an essential part of that.
If we do that we might have time to develop the technologies you speak of and use them to save ourselves. if we continue to reproduce uncontrollably as we currently are those technologies won't save us.
we need those technologies AND sane population management. it's not either or, we need both and we need them both yesterday.
and yes, having children is selfish. saying your parents are selfless is nonsense. if they were selfless they would have adopted a child in need. the only reason they chose to have a baby instead of adopt is a selfish preference for their own genetics over the needs and suffering of children who already exist and the world at large.
it's ok to have a kid. it's not ok to have more than one. if you have one or less children you are part of the solution. if you have more than one you are part of the problem.
this is a paradigm shift that is urgently needed and if you care about Earth or humanity you should help bring about this paradigm shift, not resist it.
imagining the Future technology of tomorrow does not in any way excuse environmentally destructive behaviour today.
having 4 kids today based on the hope of a future technology saving us is like injecting yourself with ebola and hoping someone invents a cure before it kills you.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Crystal G]
#23851668 - 11/20/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well in the end we need to petition our biological reproduction organs. I agree.
But I haven't used a condom in years. Never caught an std or the worst std of all. A child. Well women have that in bc. Men just have condoms which suck for both parties.
I've theorized for years about a vasectomy you can get reversed. And read a whole thing about it a while ago that it is now possible. Probably to expensive.
Most of the girls I hook up with in this town are single mothers that got fixed. This joke is funny I enjoy telling it but also am a terrible person.
Chick's with kids are the best. You know they put out and make terrible life decisions.
Honestly I end up hanging out with the kids more. They are far more interesting but I'm a big kid myself. Quite a few have asked well aren't we going to hang out? In a minute we're playing cars and he just pulled off a perfect corner to take the lead! 
Little people crack me up. Oh ya? Is that right? No! I basically just keep them talking. It's incredibly funny as there stories break there explanation down beyond a sentence and loses all coherency. Too funny
From what I gathered from his or hers toddler speak you disallowed cookies. That is unforgivable! 
Ah I miss a lot of them. Fumbling through the English language. My favorite is my best friend in Washingtons son. He speaks broken Spanish and English. That really made me have to pay attention. He'll be bilingual though. That's really cool. I speak enough to get by and understand the jist. I do wish I was fluent but shit English is enough at times.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Moonshoe]
#23851691 - 11/20/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: If we bring out reproduction levels to a sustainable, sane level we have a chance. if we continue to reproduce blindly like Idiot rats in a cage we are doomed. it's that simple.
anyone who argues that is part of the problem.
As I stated. 2 kids max per couple, then we should be more than good. Japan has something like 1 or 1.2 children per couple, and the country has stated this is a crisis for the nation since there will not be enough future taxpayers to support the system.
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and yes, having children is selfish. saying your parents are selfless is nonsense. if they were selfless they would have adopted a child in need. the only reason they chose to have a baby instead of adopt is a selfish preference for their own genetics over the needs and suffering of children who already exist and the world at large.
As I said. They were pressured by society to procreate. Japan doesn't have an adoption culture like in the USA, Japanese children in orphanages almost never get adopted. You have to be grateful for the fact that adopting and taking somebody else's children into your home is practiced here. In most countries no such practice is the norm or even exists.
Not only that, but a lot of people are rightfully afraid to adopt unknown children. I used to want to adopt a child when I was younger, but I've gotten a lot more wary about it since reading and hearing about a lot of horror stories. Stories of children ending up mentally ill or with severe rage and psychological imbalances. Even coming with really serious and costly health issues like cancer, or developing a serious disability, as children. You don't know what kind of genetics you're getting when you adopt.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Enjoywho]
#23851695 - 11/20/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enjoywho said: I've theorized for years about a vasectomy you can get reversed. And read a whole thing about it a while ago that it is now possible. Probably to expensive.
You should hold off on that, they're coming out with a male birth control medication very soon, probably in the next few years.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Crystal G]
#23851700 - 11/20/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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What is the mechanism behind that? Something with hormones like the female one?
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23851720 - 11/20/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: What is the mechanism behind that? Something with hormones like the female one?
Yeah it uses hormones similar to female contraceptives, even the side effects are very similar. They just ran some drug trials for it recently.
I know India has a male birth control shot. It's basically a gel that is injected in your vas deferens (I think), and blocks semen from coming out. It lasts 5 years or something.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Crystal G]
#23851726 - 11/20/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gross. I'd just stick with a vasectomy.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Eminence]
#23851729 - 11/20/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I'm all set with that. I'll stick with jerking off.
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Re: Why Men Are Done With Marriage MGTOW Compilation [Re: Crystal G]
#23851737 - 11/20/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You should hold off on that, they're coming out with a male birth control medication very soon, probably in the next few years.
Nah I'll just keep doing what I'm doing. Can't find a pretty girl in this town that doesn't have a kid. Which is fine. No baby daddy in sight. I swear there most have been something in the water all of the kids are 3-1
I was baffled about it. Well more baffled that they didn't hear about bc before. Than they have a kid or 2 and get fixed. From multiple baby daddies. That's one thing I don't like I will love your kids but you have to be able to provide me one. I'd hope for none as I would like to build a family.
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