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Gymnopilus liquiritiae in west PA
    #23847560 - 11/19/16 05:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)



Came across these yesterday while hunting for edibles and although they are a bit ripe, I noticed there are only a handful of finds posted so thought I'd share for the sake of reference if nothing else. 

The group was found in a wooded area, growing under a thin layer of leaves at the base of a decaying pine stump.  Caps are misshapen, dry in texture and are a pumpkin orange color that fades to yellow at the margin.  Stems are somewhat short, fibrose, slightly tapered and hollow. Gills are semi-crowded, attached and a very rich ochre-orange color.  Sporeprint is orange and matches the gills. Taste is mildly unpleasant and strongly bitter. By far the most distinctive feature of these is a strong, pervasive odor which I would describe as raw potatoes with pine sap overtones. 

Edibility information is unknown but I read a few accounts of negative reactions after ingesting them. Unlike most gyms, the odor has a rather unpleasant chemical-like edge to it and I wouldn't be that surprised if they were found to be toxic to some degree but admittedly that is pure conjecture.


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Re: Gymnopilus liquiritiae in west PA [Re: PluteusMaximus]
    #23847669 - 11/19/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'll mention this isn't the first liquiritiae find I've made this fall, came upon a larger troop in mid October only a few miles away but in a semi-wooded area adjacent to a small creek.  I wasn't able to determine the type of wood these were growing out of but in all other respects they matched the above, more recent find.



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Re: Gymnopilus liquiritiae in west PA [Re: PluteusMaximus]
    #23848691 - 11/19/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That's cool! I rarely see them on this website. They aren't active right?


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Re: Gymnopilus liquiritiae in west PA [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #23848761 - 11/19/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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maynardjameskeenan said:
That's cool! I rarely see them on this website. They aren't active right?



There's some confusion with regard to whether or not they are active. With that said, I collected some fairly recently and green staining was evident on some dried specimens.

Here's one that's dried:


Here are some fresh ones from the same collection:




I have a strong suspicion that this species actually represents a species complex, and that the vast majority of the constituent species are inactive.


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Re: Gymnopilus liquiritiae in west PA [Re: pyrolight]
    #23848771 - 11/19/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Honestly that first ones looks moldy.


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Re: Gymnopilus liquiritiae in west PA [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #23848785 - 11/19/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Honestly that first ones looks moldy.



Definitely possible.


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Re: Gymnopilus liquiritiae in west PA [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #23849232 - 11/19/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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maynardjameskeenan said:
Honestly that first ones looks moldy.


Here's an interesting fact, per the excellent write-up Bloodworm did on the species here, liquiritiae are especially susceptible to a particular type of blue-green mold.  In fact he suggests the presence of the mold as one of the identifiers of this species.


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Re: Gymnopilus liquiritiae in west PA [Re: pyrolight]
    #23849388 - 11/19/16 05:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I have a strong suspicion that this species actually represents a species complex, and that the vast majority of the constituent species are inactive.




I'm completely with you on this and I've a sneaking suspicion they may only be gyms in name (side note: liquiritia is latin for licorice) while a rather different beast "under the hood" so to speak.  One intriguing fact to back this up was a gym monograph published in 1969 which noted G. liquiritiae is an especially close relative to Cortinarius. 

That said, I ran a fairly thorough search and failed to discover any positive experiences from ingesting these but did find a somewhat disturbing post here by one of our own who claimed he ate them, felt nothing then "had unpleasant effects for 4 months" following that so might not want to experiment with these guys.


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